downgrade from lollipop - Moto X Q&A

Hi, I have been using moto x gen 1 from a year . i have observed that the performance of the phone has gone down after upgrading the phone to lollipop 5.1 (official). I used to get free RAM of about 1gb or more when no apps are running in background initially (in kitkat and jellybean). Now after lollipop update i get only 500 to 600 mb free ram. Also battery life has become pathetic. battery doesn't even last a day. i get screen time of max 2 to 2.5 hrs. So please some one suggest a method to downgrade the software from lollipop to jellybean.
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Give CyanogenMod 12.1 Rom a try. It feels much lighter and battery friendly than the stock. I get approximately 5hrs screen time playing back media and games throughout the day and upto 1gigs and more available free ram. Only way you can downgrade is if you have an unlocked bootloader, and if you do I highly suggest trying CM12.1. However, if you still wish to downgrade back to Kitkat or below than you may find the instructions available in the General forums as there was a recent thread created for that purpose.
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bushako said:
Give CyanogenMod 12.1 Rom a try. It feels much lighter and battery friendly than the stock. I get approximately 5hrs screen time playing back media and games throughout the day and upto 1gigs and more available free ram. Only way you can downgrade is if you have an unlocked bootloader, and if you do I highly suggest trying CM12.1. However, if you still wish to downgrade back to Kitkat or below than you may find the instructions available in the General forums as there was a recent thread created for that purpose.
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Thank you ....
Could you please provide a link to install CyanogenMod 12.1 Rom....
Also the method to root... A step by step guide...
I had rooted my previous phone 2 years back.. don't remember anything now....

lohit naik said:
Thank you ....
Could you please provide a link to install CyanogenMod 12.1 Rom....
Also the method to root... A step by step guide...
I had rooted my previous phone 2 years back.. don't remember anything now....
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If you can provide me with exact details about your device I might be able to help.
1. What is the device model? Eg.xt1052,xt1058,xt1060 etc
2.) Have you unlocked the bootloader? Without unlocking you cannot install custom roms such as CM12.1.
Moreover, if you haven't unlocked it yet then you are out of luck since you have officially updated your device to Lollipop so all known methods for unlocking bootloader will not work any longer.
You may also visit the link for more info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3182118
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bushako said:
If you can provide me with exact details about your device I might be able to help.
1. What is the device model? Eg.xt1052,xt1058,xt1060 etc
2.) Have you unlocked the bootloader? Without unlocking you cannot install custom roms such as CM12.1.
Moreover, if you haven't unlocked it yet then you are out of luck since you have officially updated your device to Lollipop so all known methods for unlocking bootloader will not work any longer.
You may also visit the link for more info.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3182118
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I have xt 1052...
I haven't unlocked the boot loader
help me what i should i do now...

lohit naik said:
I have xt 1052...
I haven't unlocked the boot loader
help me what i should i do now...
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Unfortunately nothing you can do at this point to downgrade without an unlocked bootloader. Any attempt will only lead to errors in fastboot and possibly brick your device. Just have to wait for when an unlock words with Lollipop but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
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Is it possible to root my phone?

Please excuse if this has been beaten to death. I've spent the last hour reading and reading an I've just gotten confused. I was heavily into the Android world for quite a while but have been out of it for a couple years. I bought my son a Droid Mini which from what I understand is pretty much the same thing as a Moto X. In the settings menu it says Android Version 4.4 Kernal Version 3.4.42-gfae57e0. I just need to root it. I'm not concerned about flashing ROMs, just need root for an app that requires it. Is it possible or do I need to get a different phone? I must have a root. Again please excuse the noob question but I've gotten a headache trying to make heads or tales of it.
boomhower said:
Please excuse if this has been beaten to death. I've spent the last hour reading and reading an I've just gotten confused. I was heavily into the Android world for quite a while but have been out of it for a couple years. I bought my son a Droid Mini which from what I understand is pretty much the same thing as a Moto X. In the settings menu it says Android Version 4.4 Kernal Version 3.4.42-gfae57e0. I just need to root it. I'm not concerned about flashing ROMs, just need root for an app that requires it. Is it possible or do I need to get a different phone? I must have a root. Again please excuse the noob question but I've gotten a headache trying to make heads or tales of it.
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No it is not possible to root 4.4 however you have an option there is a guy in China selling bootlloader unlock codes I bought mine and unlocked there are several threads on this site so check it out. The other option is to return the phone and get one you can root or a dev model.
bigv5150 said:
No it is not possible to root 4.4 however you have an option there is a guy in China selling bootlloader unlock codes I bought mine and unlocked there are several threads on this site so check it out. The other option is to return the phone and get one you can root or a dev model.
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I guess I'll go that route then. I bought my second hand so returning isn't an option. Can you link me to a thread?
I feel so lost. My last Android two Androids were an EVO and a Droid OG, I feel so lost now. Had a ton of ROMs on those but wow things have changed.
boomhower said:
I guess I'll go that route then. I bought my second hand so returning isn't an option. Can you link me to a thread?
I feel so lost. My last Android two Androids were an EVO and a Droid OG, I feel so lost now. Had a ton of ROMs on those but wow things have changed.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/moto-x-vzw-bootloader-t2659234/page66
bigv5150 said:
No it is not possible to root 4.4 however you have an option there is a guy in China selling bootlloader unlock codes I bought mine and unlocked there are several threads on this site so check it out. The other option is to return the phone and get one you can root or a dev model.
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What? 4.4 and lower can be rooted, 4.4.2 cannot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
nhizzat said:
What? 4.4 and lower can be rooted, 4.4.2 cannot.
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Under Android version it says 4.4. But is also says no software updates are available.... Kernal version says 3.4.42 that makes a difference. Guess the question is do I have 4.4 or 4.4.2. If .2 is the latest it should show under updates correct? Or maybe not since it's a Mini and not an X?
nhizzat said:
What? 4.4 and lower can be rooted, 4.4.2 cannot.
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Don't give this guy false hope without reading the OP. He does not have a moto x, He has a droid mini. The droid line cannot be downgraded from 4.4 to 4.2.2, thus his only option is to use the shady Chinese unlockers.
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boomhower said:
Under Android version it says 4.4. But is also says no software updates are available.... Kernal version says 3.4.42 that makes a difference. Guess the question is do I have 4.4 or 4.4.2. If .2 is the latest it should show under updates correct? Or maybe not since it's a Mini and not an X?
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You should get your rooting advice from this area of the forums, it will more closly resemble the options you have available to your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-ultra
VZW droid mini ,ultra, and maxx are all still on 4.4. They cannot be downgraded due to verizon locking the bootloader. You will get confused answers from the moto x owners, as they could downgrade from 4.4 to 4.2.2 and then keep root using some trickery.
While it is true that this trickery would work to on your droid mini if you hadnt yet updated to 4.4, there is no way to revert to 4.2.2 on your device. your best option getting an unlock code from a 3rd party (this voids your warranty)
consider if it is worth it to you
Good luck,
You can't root 4.4 the droid line doesn't have 4.4.2 yet so your on 4.4.
As for the guys being shady selling the code that is absolutely false. Many have bought the code they are very accommodating and helpful. As a matter of fact a few were not able to get the code for what ever reason and were refunded the money. As far as I'm concerned if you want root unlock the boot loader it ain't coming anytime soon.
And further questions should be asked in the ultra section the ultra maxx and mini are the same. The moto x is 99.9% the same but as you can see there are a few differences like they can downgrade 4.4.
As a matter of fact I'm typing this on my maxx running 4.4.2 ported from a moto x. That is what you can do with an unlocked boot loader.
It is possible! I am now the owner of a fully rooted Droid Mini XT1030 running stock 4.4. It took buying a code from the Chinese tab site and a whole lot of help from NWKENT. He should be nominated for some kind of an award. He took the time on a Sunday morning to talk me through it on the phone. He's a saint in my book.

[Q] Can I Upgrade from 4.4 and Keep Root?

I am currently rooted running Android 4.4 on my XT1060 with a locked bootloader. Can I upgrade to a newer version of android and keep root?
bobo-the-drunk said:
I am currently rooted running Android 4.4 on my XT1060 with a locked bootloader. Can I upgrade to a newer version of android and keep root?
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The short answer is no. You can not update past 4.4 and have permanent root and write-protect-disable.
The LONG answer is that IF (and only if) you never took the OTA to 4.4.2, there IS a way to run a "Stock-based, Safestrap-compatible 4.4.2 ROM".
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/rom-vzw-rooted-4-4-2-locked-bootloaders-t2672840
You will have to follow the instructions linked in that post EXACTLY. One simple mistake, and you will either:
1. Have a BRICK
or
2. Lose write-protect-disable and permanent root -forever-
Be extremely careful if you decide to do this, and realize that you won't -actually- be on 4.4.2 as you will still be running on the pre-4.4.2 bootloader and gpt.bin.
Good Luck
That's exactly what I wanted to know! Thanks for the speedy response. Hopefully with 4.4.4 coming out soon, someone will find a way to unlock the non-developer Moto X bootloader and give non-Google/Motorola developers real access to this great device!
bobo-the-drunk said:
That's exactly what I wanted to know! Thanks for the speedy response. Hopefully with 4.4.4 coming out soon, someone will find a way to unlock the non-developer Moto X bootloader and give non-Google/Motorola developers real access to this great device!
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You might want to consider checking the thread titled "China Middleman Back?"
This guy is selling bootloader unlock codes for the locked variants including verizon. It is Extremely unlikely that a bootloader-unlock exploit will EVER come along for the X....like 99.99% unlikely. Dan Rosenburg, author the the famous "Razr M bootloader exploit" has said himself that chances are almost zero that anyone will ever exploit these extremely well-coded bootloaders.
The China method costs $45, and he may or may not have your code, but its worth a shot! If he doesn't have your code, you get refunded. So no risk really. The bootloader-unlock is permanent and is FAR superior to using these exploits and safestrap-roms.
Good Luck, glad to help.

[Q] Rooting for the user experience

Hi yall.
I'd like my device to have the purest user experience possible. I've just uptaded my phone to Lollipop, and I'm looking after 2 features:
-google dialer and messenger app (found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/themes-apps/lollipop-google-dialer-messenger-t2940395)
- auto rotate on lock screen and home screen as well (I know it's just an option to toggle in the system)
These 2 things require root. However, I'd like to keep my warranty.
Do you think it's possible to root it, do these 2 things, and unroot it again (while obviously keeping the modifications)???
Thanks a lot,
Roumaru
Afaik, as of now there's no way to keep your warranty when rooting your phone. It can only be done by unlocking the bootloader first, which leads to an irreversible flag.
I'm sitting in the same boat.
Can you please explain how to root the moto g 2014 with lolipop 5.0.2 in germany ? can i just take the root tutorial for 4.4.4 or would it break my phone?
Roumaru said:
These 2 things require root. However, I'd like to keep my warranty.
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There is no way to unlock the bootloader and keep your warranty unless you bought it and live in the EU. EU regulations don't allow a loss of hardware warranty just because of software modifications.
Ok thanks
doppelhelix said:
There is no way to unlock the bootloader and keep your warranty unless you bought it and live in the EU. EU regulations don't allow a loss of hardware warranty just because of software modifications.
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So in the EU, you're allowed to root it without loosing it? I didn't know that. Actually, I bought it in Switzerland so I don't know exactly i the same rules as the EU apply or not...
gwendolyn24 said:
Can you please explain how to root the moto g 2014 with lolipop 5.0.2 in germany ? can i just take the root tutorial for 4.4.4 or would it break my phone?
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Beware with the boot loader. If I were you, I'd dig into google to find an answer, or wait till a relevant tutorial for Lollipop is released.
gwendolyn24 said:
Can you please explain how to root the moto g 2014 with lolipop 5.0.2 in germany ? can i just take the root tutorial for 4.4.4 or would it break my phone?
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Just a very condensed version because there isn't any difference (except latest twrp is necessary):
1. Follow Motorola's instructions to unlock the bootlader.
2. Flash TWRP 2.8.5 with fastboot.
3. Flash latest SuperSU with TWRP.
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Roumaru said:
So in the EU, you're allowed to root it without loosing it? I didn't know that. Actually, I bought it in
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I'm sorry. You have to look it up youself. Can't help with Swiss legal system.
@doppelhelix
i have no acces to the website of twrp. is the website offline ?
could you describe or paste a link where i can find a guide to root the moto g 2014 germany with android 5.0.2 ? because i dont have a lot of knowledge of that things
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3018818
Read this very carefully, at least twice from start to finish. Make sure to read the whole thread, not just the OP.
Then, if you think you understand everything, proceed at your own risk.
Rooting, bootloader unlocking, etc. is for advanced users only. You have to know what you're doing, else you're going to mess it up.
Just one thing regards the app you wanna...
Google dialer... The default dialer of android stock 5.0.2 is not google dialer?
I don't see the difference, if is different some one let me know.
If the priv-app is from android 5.x.x it may not work on android 4.4 or any under 5.x.x
Google messenger app, it can be installed via play
Be very careful in flash a dialer app, because one time I've done it (not that app from that thread) and I could not open the dialer app, or received call... I had to flash the rom again...
again... If the priv-app is from android 5.x.x it may not work on android 4.4 or any under 5.x.x..
the two applications of that thread are priv-app.
Roumaru said:
So in the EU, you're allowed to root it without loosing it? I didn't know that. Actually, I bought it in Switzerland so I don't know exactly i the same rules as the EU apply or not...
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Sorry to hijack the thread, but can I ask you if the Moto G 2nd gen got the Lollipop update in Switzerland already? I can't findf any reliable info about it. Thx!
FearlessSpiff said:
Sorry to hijack the thread, but can I ask you if the Moto G 2nd gen got the Lollipop update in Switzerland already? I can't findf any reliable info about it. Thx!
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The final decision on that depends on your carrier. If there are multiple carriers there, it's possible that some have it and some don't.
can you do a undectable mobile hotspot on a rooted moto g (with metro pcs or sprint) ?
snipyyy said:
@doppelhelix
i have no acces to the website of twrp. is the website offline ?
could you describe or paste a link where i can find a guide to root the moto g 2014 germany with android 5.0.2 ? because i dont have a lot of knowledge of that things
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No, twrp website is not offline.
link for twrp :- http://twrp.me/
For unlocking the bootloader :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/wip-unlock-bootloader-moto-g-2nd-gen-t2875728
For rooting the phone :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/xt1063-t3018818
Follow all the steps in the above threads correctly and you will get a rooted phone !

Any 5.x ROM for Locked-Bootloaders

Hi,
My Xperia SP has a locked bootloader, and cannot be unlocked.
I have rooted the device already.
I am looking for a ROM which is Android 5.0 or above, which I can use on a locked bootloader.
I saw VanirAOSP but that looks to no longer be available, the 5.1..1 download link just hangs.
Appreciate if anyone can advice me of one.
Also, I do need the camera and the phone to be working, I was reading on some Cynogenmod based ones but read that the phone didn't work, which would be no use to me.
Thanks
nudr01d said:
Hi,
My Xperia SP has a locked bootloader, and cannot be unlocked.
I have rooted the device already.
I am looking for a ROM which is Android 5.0 or above, which I can use on a locked bootloader.
I saw VanirAOSP but that looks to no longer be available, the 5.1..1 download link just hangs.
Appreciate if anyone can advice me of one.
Also, I do need the camera and the phone to be working, I was reading on some Cynogenmod based ones but read that the phone didn't work, which would be no use to me.
Thanks
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-sp/development/xperiasp-locked-bootloader-lbl-t3300095
gsm doesn't work ..and still there is no ROMs based on cm12.1 lbl tree ....so u guys should wait ...and i think deves are waiting the gsm to be fixed to build for lbl

Help rooting Moto X 2nd Gen Android 5.1

Hey guys,
I am thinking of rooting my Motorola X 2nd Gen and so far I have found older and more outdated ways of rooting the phone.
I have never done anything like this with phones so I will need some guidance to make sure I don't mess anything up.
I have done some research and have watched many YouTube videos on how to root the phone but many of them show the phone with older versions of Android and in the comments it says that that way of rooting the phone will not work with 5.1. If it is useful, my phone is originally from AT&T and after I finished the two year contract with them I had them unlock it and I am not with Ting. Not sure if that info is necessary but might as well provide as much as I can.
Anyways, my question for you is if there are any guides to root my phone that are current and are proven to work.
I really appreciate your time and your help.
Let me know if I can provide any more information that will help you in helping me!
want the same help
actually I'm also searching help regarding the same... right now i'm n stock 6.0 in my moto x 2014 (xt1092)... Actually my purpose of rooting is moto (now lenovo) doesn't provide any furher updates... and I want to try android 7.1.1 through Lineage OS... Plz help guys regarding rooting it and installing custom rom....
Thanks in advanced
dipeshpatel.1991 said:
I want to try android 7.1.1
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You need an unlocked bootloader for that.
Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLNja2M6zc0
If you have an AT&T XT1097 and on the Android 5.1 08-01-2016 security patch, there currently is not a way to gain temproot in order to unlock the bootloader. We have to wait for tools like kingroot/kingoroot to be updated.
erikaxe said:
If you have an AT&T XT1097 and on the Android 5.1 08-01-2016 security patch, there currently is not a way to gain temproot in order to unlock the bootloader. We have to wait for tools like kingroot/kingoroot to be updated.
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There might be a way to temproot, Try using the Dirtycow exploit, It worked with my Moto X2... Till i accidentally hard bricked it

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