Ok, so I solved this. Not sure how the battery drain is, but this is what I did:
Installed the NULL ROM (not sure this is required, anyone can test this by just installing the unhacked bluetooth chat apps)
Hacked the BluetoothChat sample app to listen for notifications via AccessibilityService and send them and their contents over via chat
Hacked the BluetoothChat to move to foreground and sound a buzz when it gets a chat message from its peer
Installed hacked BluetoothChat app on both Nexus 7 and Galaxy Gear
Voila! Now when there is a notification on my Nexus 7, it sends it over to my Galaxy Gear which buzzes me. As a bonus, archived list of notifications are available in the chat history.
Anyways, this is just a POC. Improvements are to measure battery drain and if necessary find a way to better use BLE.
Cheers
Good for those who love the Gear but not the Galaxy.
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That's a neat way of doing things, not tried this but maybe Tasker could be used to send messages to the watch over bluetooth when "stuff happens".
Then each user could change what they see on the watch..
Anyways, great stuff
bluecube said:
That's a neat way of doing things, not tried this but maybe Tasker could be used to send messages to the watch over bluetooth when "stuff happens".
Then each user could change what they see on the watch..
Anyways, great stuff
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Anyone. What's the best third party music remote for gear?
blazespinnaker said:
Ok, so I solved this. Not sure how the battery drain is, but this is what I did:
Installed the NULL ROM (not sure this is required, anyone can test this by just installing the unhacked bluetooth chat apps)
Hacked the BluetoothChat sample app to listen for notifications via AccessibilityService and send them and their contents over via chat
Hacked the BluetoothChat to move to foreground and sound a buzz when it gets a chat message from its peer
Installed hacked BluetoothChat app on both Nexus 7 and Galaxy Gear
Voila! Now when there is a notification on my Nexus 7, it sends it over to my Galaxy Gear which buzzes me. As a bonus, archived list of notifications are available in the chat history.
Anyways, this is just a POC. Improvements are to measure battery drain and if necessary find a way to better use BLE.
Cheers
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Wow this sounds awesome, because I don't have any incoming notifications; I'm on Android 4.2 with non-Samsung phone paired.
Could you share the hacked app for me? I would live with it for a while since I am not going to have 4.3 upgrade soon,
Thanks!
nucleiis said:
Wow this sounds awesome, because I don't have any incoming notifications; I'm on Android 4.2 with non-Samsung phone paired.
Could you share the hacked app for me? I would live with it for a while since I am not going to have 4.3 upgrade soon,
Thanks!
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Yeah, I'll see what the demand is like. Little nervous about sharing an apk that requires complete access to your accessibility, as it's a very big security loophole. If I do, I may only share the source code and ask folks to download eclipse and build it for themselves.
Another possibility is someone may carry the baton from here and do a less hacked version. If such a person is out there, I'd be happy to assist / collaborate. Little pressed for time unfortunately, but isn't everyone.
just curious to know why some have rooted their gear. especially with the latest update that gives improvements. just got the watch and still learning it but might be tempted to root if there are reasons unbeknownst to me that improves the watch even further
I rooted it so that I can put null Rom on it. That really opened up the watch for me.
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Rooted for adding a theme. The stock icons look like crap and wanted to sideload apps for ringtones, music, videos and notification sounds.
Ian B
I did just to try them null rom. After that I regret it. Although I didn't know you needed root to Install ringtones thanx
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I rooted it to put the Null_ ROM on it, because it looked really nice from the screenshots, and also I thought if i ever wanted to get a non Samsung phone then this would be the way to do it.
However it's not all it cracked up to be.. for the most part for the Null_ ROM extras to be useful you need to have bluetooth internet tethering enabled on the phone which will drain more battery on both devices, and if it disconnects you have to dive into the settings on both to enable it again. all the cool stuff where the phone just tells the watch about things (eg notifications, events, weather, contacts, etc) via bluetooth require a 4.3 TW ROM on your phone, and can be done without the Null_ ROM.
You also lose the double tap power button to open S-Voice, but this might be fixable by disabling the "Power button mod", whatever that is. I haven't looked too deeply - I have just setup a Nova gesture where you double tap the screen to open up S-Voice.
I think my watch looks nicer now with the ROM as you can choose wallpapers, but in my Nova dock i literally just have all the original apps that came with the phone, and the main widget is one of the original clock faces (the event one), i only have a second screen with a shortcut for going into the settings in case i need to enable BT internet, and a battery widget (which i can see by double two finger tapping the screen anyway).
I think the minimalist text widget that fOmey has in the screenshots on the Null_ thread look awesome, but they're just not useful enough. The next event widget is exactly what I need (apart from the time), and the ONLY way you can have a next event widget without requiring internet on the watch is to use the built in widget. If you're gonna use the built in widget, why flash a different ROM at all?
ahh .. anyway. I won't be flashing back to stock, but if i had my choice again.. i dunno if i'd bother.
i put root and null rom on it so i don't have to return it to the store.
even after gear manager updates, stock watch is a overpriced notifier on your wrist.
after rooting it i customize it the way i want it, i have access to mostly used apps, i can use apps that were not designed to be used with gear and much more.
i dunno, wanted root. i feel powerless without root
rooted every device since my gs1. And i know myself enough that i know that at some point i am going to get bored with the stock rom, and will start to customize the things i dont like.
then i want to know how;
the clock functions,
to get out of bootloops,
to simplify the process of adding apps not officially supported.
to theme elements.
to flash custom rom
to revert to stock.
now im prepared
Question, do you have to root in order to flash the recovery and null? Or I can just flan both without root? Also how do you return back to stock? Thanks in advanced...
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Mainly because of NULL rom. For me, without it Galaxy Gear would be useless! (and because after my first root, I root all devices, it gives to you the real power of the gadget!)
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Question, do you have to root in order to flash the recovery and null? Or I can just flan both without root?
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You need root.
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I rooted to flash null as well and the only thing I like about it is you can record in 720p. But I don't see too much advantage since my tmobile note3 doesn't seem to have bluetooth tethering option so I can't take advantage of any null app that require data. Didn't like have Nova Launcher as it's just too small of a screen to do anything. That's why I bought a note3 as I wanted a bigger screen. So I mainly use tw on the gear. Besides the 720p recording and seeing all the extra app in the app list is cool but not a necessity. But I'm going to keep it like this for now.
Also forgot to add another advantage with null is shutter sound is gone. You can also achieve this without null but you need to root.
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Guys, I just have my new Samsung Gear after christmas, it works very well, still happy with battery life (around 3 days). Though I miss having a keyboard to reply SMS / Emails, or do some web search.
My question is...
If I want to keep everything as it is;
- default Samsung stuff, default clock widgets
- default auto Bluetooth connection (at least Gear <-> Note 3 do that automatically...)
but* I want to:
- install a keyboard to normally reply my SMS/Emails
- do some simple websearching, with Opera / Dolphin, etc. (My phone has BT teethring)
Can I do that just by roothing my device?
the Gear is really a device that RECEIVES things - notifications, updates to display, etc. If you want to use it to SEND things, then you'll really have to root it and put on the Null_ ROM. With this you can enable bluetooth internet tethering, and the Gear can get full internet. With internet you can install apps like an email client and a keyboard (these actually come with Null_), and respond to emails etc on the Gear. Note: it's very fiddly using a keyboard on the Gear, even with swype style input.
Also regarding SMS, this can't really be done on the Gear as you would expect. As the Gear has no SIM card, you'd need an app on the Gear to talk to your phone and tell it to send the SMS.
But, you can actually do this via S-Voice. So if you're happy talking your SMS to the phone (which isn't too bad in my experience), you can get S-Voice to use your phone to send an SMS.
I rooted mine because I wanted to be able to start my car from my watch, along with hooking it up with Torque to see my times. Being able to add wallpapers is nice too
omniwolf said:
the Gear is really a device that RECEIVES things ... If you want to use it to SEND things ... and tell it to send the SMS....you can get S-Voice to use your phone to send an SMS.
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Thanks for answering Omniwolf. Well, Gear is bidirectional, when you take a picture, when you answer an SMS via premade SMS/S-Voice, you are communicating Gear <-> Phone.
My goal is not to have an independent clock like "simvalley MOBILE AW-414.Go Smartwatch", but a little more than what Gear allows in the moment.
For example:
- Answering SMS only through premade SMS...a tiny keyboard option would be fantastic! S-Voice does not work for me, it works on yours???
- No option to quick answer Whatsapp/E.mail
- When I take a picture I cannot send it through E-mail/Whatsapp (option is disabled........)
- No google translate or something like that is possible with keyboard (there is an app that uses the camera but is far from practical...)
So, in theory I just want a Gear + Keyboard + SMS/Whatsapp/Email answer option (S-Voice does not work on mine! I have a Note 3 stock Samsung Android 4.3) + Google Translate.
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Thanks for answering Omniwolf. Well, Gear is bidirectional, when you take a picture, when you answer an SMS via premade SMS/S-Voice, you are communicating Gear <-> Phone.
My goal is not to have an independent clock like "simvalley MOBILE AW-414.Go Smartwatch", but a little more than what Gear allows in the moment.
For example:
- Answering SMS only through premade SMS...a tiny keyboard option would be fantastic! S-Voice does not work for me, it works on yours???
- No option to quick answer Whatsapp/E.mail
- When I take a picture I cannot send it through E-mail/Whatsapp (option is disabled........)
- No google translate or something like that is possible with keyboard (there is an app that uses the camera but is far from practical...)
So, in theory I just want a Gear + Keyboard + SMS/Whatsapp/Email answer option (S-Voice does not work on mine! I have a Note 3 stock Samsung Android 4.3) + Google Translate.
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I answer texts with svoice all the time. Does svoice work on your device? I've used it to call a contact, narrated a # to dial, and responded to texts.
I can honestly say that there is nothing missing from my stock gear that I wish I had.
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mmick said:
Thanks for answering Omniwolf. Well, Gear is bidirectional, when you take a picture, when you answer an SMS via premade SMS/S-Voice, you are communicating Gear <-> Phone.
My goal is not to have an independent clock like "simvalley MOBILE AW-414.Go Smartwatch", but a little more than what Gear allows in the moment.
For example:
- Answering SMS only through premade SMS...a tiny keyboard option would be fantastic! S-Voice does not work for me, it works on yours???
- No option to quick answer Whatsapp/E.mail
- When I take a picture I cannot send it through E-mail/Whatsapp (option is disabled........)
- No google translate or something like that is possible with keyboard (there is an app that uses the camera but is far from practical...)
So, in theory I just want a Gear + Keyboard + SMS/Whatsapp/Email answer option (S-Voice does not work on mine! I have a Note 3 stock Samsung Android 4.3) + Google Translate.
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I think you can use tablettalk for that
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mmick said:
Thanks for answering Omniwolf. Well, Gear is bidirectional, when you take a picture, when you answer an SMS via premade SMS/S-Voice, you are communicating Gear <-> Phone.
My goal is not to have an independent clock like "simvalley MOBILE AW-414.Go Smartwatch", but a little more than what Gear allows in the moment.
For example:
- Answering SMS only through premade SMS...a tiny keyboard option would be fantastic! S-Voice does not work for me, it works on yours???
- No option to quick answer Whatsapp/E.mail
- When I take a picture I cannot send it through E-mail/Whatsapp (option is disabled........)
- No google translate or something like that is possible with keyboard (there is an app that uses the camera but is far from practical...)
So, in theory I just want a Gear + Keyboard + SMS/Whatsapp/Email answer option (S-Voice does not work on mine! I have a Note 3 stock Samsung Android 4.3) + Google Translate.
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yeah, i know the Gear can send things to the watch, it's a BT connection with is bidirectional. My point is that without rooting, the gear isn't designed to send things, it's more of a receiver. 90% of the things done on it are incoming, not outgoing. Sure, all photos go the other direction, and using S-Voice you can create a bunch of things on the watch, but it's the minority.
I think i've alread answered all your other questions, so i won't rehash (more), but it really seems like you want Samsung to add a bunch of outgoing functionality to the watch, which is fine by me, i think a lot of it would be useful.
Yes S-Voice works for me, make sure it's installed and usable on your phone before trying it on the watch.
To free myself of Gear Manager
BT tether + tablet talk = profit
So worth it...
-Null ROM's feature set
-Bluetooth internet tethering (from a U.S. carrier stock ROM with BT tethering option nuked)
-Use with non Samsung device (probably going back to Nexus soon)
S voice is way too limited (even worse on the watch). Google Now and Internet access makes the watch worth the price tag. 300 bucks with a little research and now I can say "Can your Rolex do this?" So worth it...
tkjeeper said:
I answer texts with svoice all the time. Does svoice work on your device? I've used it to call a contact, narrated a # to dial, and responded to texts.
I can honestly say that there is nothing missing from my stock gear that I wish I had.
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I wish S-Voice worked for me. It doesn't hear me well and I keep getting "I didn't catch that" even when I just want to confirm to send a text.
It gets frustrating.
Finally getting my gear, have a couple questions. Plan on rooting and installing Null, I'm on xnote rom, att note 3.
When I first turn it on will it ota update and is that bad?
Will I have the ability to answer gmail and text messages?
I always use my bt headset at work for calls and music, will I still be able to while using the GG?
Thanks!
9wire said:
Finally getting my gear, have a couple questions. Plan on rooting and installing Null, I'm on xnote rom, att note 3.
When I first turn it on will it ota update and is that bad?
Will I have the ability to answer gmail and text messages?
I always use my bt headset at work for calls and music, will I still be able to while using the GG?
Thanks!
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Just follow the tutorial posted by null on android development i recommend you to dont install the ota and update the firmware manually using odin, you can have the ability to answer text messages only if you install tablet talk, i never try it but some guys are talking about it you just need to follow the tuto and you will get all your answers, have fun :highfive:
psycho1200 said:
you can have the ability to answer text messages only if you install tablet talk, i never try it but some guys are talking about it :
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TabletTalk works ,, I have it installed & working (with all contacts synced with name/pics etc.) but even using Fleksy keyboard (by far the best KB for the gear) I would have to be pretty desperate before I would use it rather than just pull out my phone to answer a text.
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TabletTalk works ,, I have it installed & working (with all contacts synced with name/pics etc.) but even using Fleksy keyboard (by far the best KB for the gear) I would have to be pretty desperate before I would use it rather than just pull out my phone to answer a text.
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How did you get their pics to sync onto each of the contacts? For the life of me I can't do this!
We all wish there was a way to answer the whatsapp from our gear 2, either by voice messages, some t9 (old-style) keyboard, text to speech ... or endless options Google technology Current presents. But the problem is that as I read whatsapp creators themselves have to give permission (if I remember correctly), or do themselves make this possible. So it occurs to me to do a bit of pressure and show that we are no longer enough and that this market of the wereables with tizen .... especially when they have brought the Gear s new one.
We can write individually to:
Whatsapp Support:
[email protected]
Twitter WhatsApp Inc. (WhatsApp): https: //twitter.com/WhatsApp
htcmania Asked: https: //twitter.com/CarlosGaMartin/s...33732529426432
Let me ask you, when your gear 2 screen is off and you get a message, does you gear turn its screen on to notify you that you received a whatsapp message?
chispas109 said:
Let me ask you, when your gear 2 screen is off and you get a message, does you gear turn its screen on to notify you that you received a whatsapp message?
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Yes.
Just make right settings in notification centre of gear manager. I get whatsapp mesaages on my neo even when my phone is switched on and neo2 is screen off.
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smrsxn said:
Yes.
Just make right settings in notification centre of gear manager. I get whatsapp mesaages on my neo even when my phone is switched on and neo2 is screen off.
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I actually had to uninstall and reinstall whatsapp. It is working as it should now.
there is no way to reply???
Nick1602 said:
there is no way to reply???
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Unfortunately, not with Tizen.
I flashed Android wear on to my gear 2 Neo via a method i found here on XDA
Now, I can read and reply to Whatsapps.
I would much rather be able to use the original software that came with the watch though, as some features dont work in Wear on the neo
I recently received a Galaxy Gear as a gift. After updating it (Android not Tizen), I receive my whatsapp notifications (After configuring Gear Manager) but I can't read the message. I only see the person who sent it and for more details I need to use my phone. Is it solved in the custom rom null 23, tizen or whatever? Is it possible to see the full messages in the Galaxy Gear 2 based on Tizen?
I don't know what to do because I can change this one to Gear 2 until Monday.
Thanks in advance
mannuk said:
I recently received a Galaxy Gear as a gift. After updating it (Android not Tizen), I receive my whatsapp notifications (After configuring Gear Manager) but I can't read the message. I only see the person who sent it and for more details I need to use my phone. Is it solved in the custom rom null 23, tizen or whatever? Is it possible to see the full messages in the Galaxy Gear 2 based on Tizen?
I don't know what to do because I can change this one to Gear 2 until Monday.
Thanks in advance
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You need to give a little more information, like what kind of phone you have and which version of Android is running on it.
Or do you use an iPhone ?
I have a Galaxy S5 with Lollipop and my Gear 1 (with Null_23) shows whatsapp messages perfectly. So the whole message.
Also for emails (Gmail and corporate email from Airwatch) and Facebook as well.
But read the forum here, as I think all your questions have been answered multiple times already.
Receiving whatsapp messages is easy. Sending them from the gear requires a little work
Santaclauswitz said:
Receiving whatsapp messages is easy. Sending them from the gear requires a little work
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you got me curious now.. Ive been trying to find ways round it as my job requires me leave phone in my locker so ill take advantage of the watch
Care to share how or any links to get me started ?
I just wrote a long reply and the xda app ate it! Bah and humbug!
Do you use tasker?
Santaclauswitz said:
I just wrote a long reply and the xda app ate it! Bah and humbug!
Do you use tasker?
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Yes i did use when i was on KK but now on lollipop not all functions work.. I am aware of Tasker on the Gear too but now took android off and went to tizen so i might be handicapped when it comes to what i can do.. I suppose i may have to just put up with normal messaging using fleksy messenger from Gear.
I appreciate your reply anyway
Alas I know nothing about tizen..... that'd be your biggest handicap. I think I'll stay kit Kat for a while longer.....