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Hey guys, I was wondering if there was a googlevoice workaround to activate the account on the gtab. It wants to send a txt msg but ofcorse it can't send one cause its not a phone. I've setup slipdroid but it wont register but shows my account when I go to pbx.org was wondering if maybe cause my googlevoice account on this tab couldn't finish setting up. Thanks
Matt
you have to update to the newest release then there is no problems
To follow up on what b3ltazar said, you may need to do the market fix in order to see google voice in the market. After the fix you will see google voice and can do the update. It will work after doing the update.
I have the new market. Running vegan 5.1 I tried the market fix but for some reason I never have and cashe when I got to allocations. Manage and tap on market. Why is this? Google voice is no where to be found in my market. Does anyone have the apk?
Thanks
Matt
mhart032 said:
Hey guys, I was wondering if there was a googlevoice workaround to activate the account on the gtab. It wants to send a txt msg but ofcorse it can't send one cause its not a phone. I've setup slipdroid but it wont register but shows my account when I go to pbx.org was wondering if maybe cause my googlevoice account on this tab couldn't finish setting up. Thanks
Matt
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I have it working... The workaround was to take the google voice on my phone, make a Titanium backup, copy those files over to the tab, and restore through Titanium backup as well. Afterwords, when you start voice, it walks you through the setup process and when it gets to the part trying to find the phone just back out of everything.
I've done this a couple times and it worked pretty well. You can text IF you have a google voice number.
Good luck!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9975188&postcount=1589
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9975188&postcount=1589
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That isn't really necessary anymore. Just update to the latest in the market, make sure the phone number you choose in Google voice has been added to your Google voice account, and text away...
If you don't see it in the market. Then you need to study up on market fixes. It is there in my market using vegaN Beta 5.1 and works fine. I use it everyday to talk to my kids..
I have it and it works great. Love texting from my g tablet
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Slightly off-topic: Google Voice, and voice calls from Gtab, and in general?
Hi,
I have a Gmail and Google Voice account, and I guess that one thing that I've never quite understood is what Google Voice is, or is suppose to do, esp. vis-a-vis voice calls.
When I first got signed up for it, and when I'm in Google Voice (on a PC), I know that I can initiate a "voice call", but from what I can tell, the way that that works is that when you do a voice call from Google Voice, you tell it the number that you want to call (the "called number"), then Google Voice calls that called number, and calls you back on your REGULAR phone number. In other words, if the number that I have configured in Google Voice for myself is xxx-xxx-xxxx, when I initiate a call to yyy-yyy-yyyy, I get an incoming call on xxx-xxx-xxxx.
Then, awhile ago, Google announced that you could call from your Gmail account, and I was really surprised when I tried that. When I was in Gmail, I initiated a call to xxx-xxx-xxxx, and, I was able to talk to the called party ON MY PC, i.e., kind of like a "Skype out" phone call.
So, now that I have my Gtab, I was wondering: Is it possible to do the latter thing from my Gtab, i.e., to call a real phone number (xxx-xxx-xxxx) from my Gtab, and talk to that real phone via my Gtab, totally over Wifi on my end?
I've seen some posts and info about setting up sipdroid and pbx something or other, but I'm wondering if it's possible to do with just some combination of Google Voice app and Gmail app on the Gtab?
Thanks,
Jim
What version of Google Voice works for stock rom?
I have the same problem as many in this and 2 other threads.
Unable to get Google voice app to fully install. Does it only install / work on an UNstock gtab?
I can go to google voice in the browser and sent and receive texts, fine. But of course then you get no notification when messages come in.
As I said, I am runnning stock gtab, no mods. I was able to search and found Google voice in the gmarket but it gave me choices to sms or download to phone, or pc. I chose PC.
I click on install and at the screen where it asks for number confirmation, I select my cell phone, it returns error can not verify the number. (it is the same number I used to originally setup the gvoice on pc). I can not get past the voicemail setup page either, skip doesn't work and then back won't work and I am locked up.
There are so many great threads on this forum, but it seems many repeated questions because they remain unanswered, or perhaps there are so many version of tabs, the problems and solutions are ROM specific.
Its almost like we need sub forums, if running this, search here...
nascardudette said:
I have the same problem as many in this and 2 other threads.
Unable to get Google voice app to fully install. Does it only install / work on an UNstock gtab?
I can go to google voice in the browser and sent and receive texts, fine. But of course then you get no notification when messages come in.
As I said, I am runnning stock gtab, no mods. I was able to search and found Google voice in the gmarket but it gave me choices to sms or download to phone, or pc. I chose PC.
I click on install and at the screen where it asks for number confirmation, I select my cell phone, it returns error can not verify the number. (it is the same number I used to originally setup the gvoice on pc). I can not get past the voicemail setup page either, skip doesn't work and then back won't work and I am locked up.
There are so many great threads on this forum, but it seems many repeated questions because they remain unanswered, or perhaps there are so many version of tabs, the problems and solutions are ROM specific.
Its almost like we need sub forums, if running this, search here...
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Do you have the market on your tablet? If yes, then update google voice and it should let you finish the setup.
nascardudette said:
I have the same problem as many in this and 2 other threads.
Unable to get Google voice app to fully install. Does it only install / work on an UNstock gtab?
I can go to google voice in the browser and sent and receive texts, fine. But of course then you get no notification when messages come in.
As I said, I am runnning stock gtab, no mods. I was able to search and found Google voice in the gmarket but it gave me choices to sms or download to phone, or pc. I chose PC.
I click on install and at the screen where it asks for number confirmation, I select my cell phone, it returns error can not verify the number. (it is the same number I used to originally setup the gvoice on pc). I can not get past the voicemail setup page either, skip doesn't work and then back won't work and I am locked up.
There are so many great threads on this forum, but it seems many repeated questions because they remain unanswered, or perhaps there are so many version of tabs, the problems and solutions are ROM specific.
Its almost like we need sub forums, if running this, search here...
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see the stickied thread about installing gapps (google apps)
very simple to install
TB Method worked for me.
it2steve said:
I have it working... The workaround was to take the google voice on my phone, make a Titanium backup, copy those files over to the tab, and restore through Titanium backup as well. Afterwords, when you start voice, it walks you through the setup process and when it gets to the part trying to find the phone just back out of everything.
I've done this a couple times and it worked pretty well. You can text IF you have a google voice number.
Good luck!
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Market fix method didn't work for me, GV still won't come up on market for me.
TB backup method worked for me, from my N1, copied two files over to gtab TB folder, cleared data from tb then restarted tb. Restored, sent several txt to test.
Thanks for the help!!
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tekrhino said:
Market fix method didn't work for me, GV still won't come up on market for me.
TB backup method worked for me, from my N1, copied two files over to gtab TB folder, cleared data from tb then restarted tb. Restored, sent several txt to test.
Thanks for the help!!
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I appreciate your reply.
a few questions:
1. is you tab rooted?
(I am reading like crazy to get all this, but there is so much! I thought TB only works on rooted units, but not sure if it requires a certain rom)
2. which rom are you running?
If I ever get this, I'm going to create a matrix: root - rom - apps - working y/n
(former career = ui testing / documenting)
Sprdtyf350 said:
Do you have the market on your tablet? If yes, then update google voice and it should let you finish the setup.
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I have gmarket, no mods.
I go to market and see no "updates"
I searched for, and installed google voice, no luck.
I will go back and look up installing gapps, I seem to recall it requires some mods first and that is what I was trying to avoid until I am sure I want to keep the unit.
I am on the fence. I never realized how (don't boo me) "hooked on windows I am" I love my android phone, but when it comes to the things I like to do on a bigger screen, as much as I love the touch feature, I really am so much more productive on a laptop. I'm sure its a learning curve, and I LOVE playing with new technology - and this sight is LOADED with all you need to know about the tab. But I am a step by step person and I feel like I am spending more time searching than learning.
Its just me .. kudo's to all the folks that help and dev here .. its a very amazing team!
nascardudette said:
I appreciate your reply.
a few questions:
1. is you tab rooted?
(I am reading like crazy to get all this, but there is so much! I thought TB only works on rooted units, but not sure if it requires a certain rom)
2. which rom are you running?
If I ever get this, I'm going to create a matrix: root - rom - apps - working y/n
(former career = ui testing / documenting)
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Sorry for the delay in repsonding, I didn't have this thread tagged to notify me of replies.
Been busy messing with the new CM7 Beta for the Gtab.
Ok so, answers:
1) Yes my tab is rooted, the stock OS out of the box sucked the big dill pickle. I was rooted and customed within two hrs of taking it out of the box.
2) After messing around with the five or so availale ROMS, I decided to make the VEGAn 5.1 beta my daily driver, it and TnT lite are the most stable IMHO, I chose VEGAn over TnT because the news and weather genie was absent from TnT and the VEGAn web browser offer much more flexibility as far as options go. I'm a news junkie!
Also the On-Screen soft keys on the notification bar [HOME, MENU, and BACK] are fantastic additions since the keys on the device don't light up, which makes it real [email protected]%# when using the device in a poorly lighted room.
3) As for TB, it is my understanding it will only work with rooted devices.
4) It is also my understanding that TB will work with MOST Android devices and most ROMS whether stock or customed. YES TB will work with stock OS ROMS provided the device is rooted. And yes it is possible to Root your device WITHOUT unlocking the BOOTLOADER, both my N1 and GTAB are rooted via this method. N1 with Universal Androot and my GTAB with Z4root.
Re:voice calls on Gtab
jimcpl said:
Hi,
I have a Gmail and Google Voice account, and I guess that one thing that I've never quite understood is what Google Voice is, or is suppose to do, esp. vis-a-vis voice calls.
When I first got signed up for it, and when I'm in Google Voice (on a PC), I know that I can initiate a "voice call", but from what I can tell, the way that that works is that when you do a voice call from Google Voice, you tell it the number that you want to call (the "called number"), then Google Voice calls that called number, and calls you back on your REGULAR phone number. In other words, if the number that I have configured in Google Voice for myself is xxx-xxx-xxxx, when I initiate a call to yyy-yyy-yyyy, I get an incoming call on xxx-xxx-xxxx.
Then, awhile ago, Google announced that you could call from your Gmail account, and I was really surprised when I tried that. When I was in Gmail, I initiated a call to xxx-xxx-xxxx, and, I was able to talk to the called party ON MY PC, i.e., kind of like a "Skype out" phone call.
So, now that I have my Gtab, I was wondering: Is it possible to do the latter thing from my Gtab, i.e., to call a real phone number (xxx-xxx-xxxx) from my Gtab, and talk to that real phone via my Gtab, totally over Wifi on my end?
I've seen some posts and info about setting up sipdroid and pbx something or other, but I'm wondering if it's possible to do with just some combination of Google Voice app and Gmail app on the Gtab?
Thanks,
Jim
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I don't have many people to call and those I do call i prefer video, but i have placed a few Skype calls on the Gtab and it works just fine for voice. Doesn't give the option for video, almost like it doesn't recognize the camera. i tried Fring and when i go to do a test call it makes a hideous noice and i have to force shut down the app. So for voice Skype is great.
Google Voice in the Market.
For those who after the market fix are still unable to find the google voice app, here is what I found. There are 3 different fingerprints floating around. When I could not find voice in the marketplace I started experimenting with the diffrerent fingerprints, and to my surprise each one gives different search results, with diffrerent apps available / missing. On my tab, with the samsung Tab fingerprint I was able to locate the google voice app, but with the standard mahimahi 2.2 i could not
ro.build.fingerprint=google/passion/passion/mahimahi:2.2/FRF91/43546:user/release-keys
ro.build.fingerprint=google/passion/passion/mahimahi:2.2.1/FRG83/60505:user/release-keys
ro.build.fingerprint=samsung/SGH-T849/SGH-T849/SGH-T849:2.2/FROYO/UVJJB:user/release-keys
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manikin13 said:
For those who after the market fix are still unable to find the google voice app, here is what I found. There are 3 different fingerprints floating around. When I could not find voice in the marketplace I started experimenting with the diffrerent fingerprints, and to my surprise each one gives different search results, with diffrerent apps available / missing. On my tab, with the samsung Tab fingerprint I was able to locate the google voice app, but with the standard mahimahi 2.2 i could not
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Thanks for the heads up!
So the fingerprint is changed via build.prop edit?
Would either one of these mess up the VS GTab?
tekrhino said:
Thanks for the heads up!
So the fingerprint is changed via build.prop edit?
Would either one of these mess up the VS GTab?
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All the standard disclaimers re: blowing up your tablet etc. are all still in effect. however the fingerprint method significantly improves the plain vanilla clear market cache fix, at least on my tab. YMMV
For all you gear owners out there, after months of using it, would you still recommend it? I'm sure a lot of people are still on the fence about spending 300 dollars for a watch
What are your top 3 uses for your gear?
kingofthebraves said:
For all you gear owners out there, after months of using it, would you still recommend it? I'm sure a lot of people are still on the fence about spending 300 dollars for a watch
What are your top 3 uses for your gear?
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1. Making sure I hear all my text messages with my custom ring tone. (& and sometimes answering with a custom pre-made template)
2. making sure I hear it ring on an incoming call (with another custom ring tone.)
3, Answering as a speakerphone when a call comes in while I'm driving.
These are the thing I bought it for & it works super. All the other things like weather etc, are just icing on the cake.
Yes, I would buy it again (I bought it on the day it came out) and have recommended it to friends
Does it get annoying having to flick your wrist everytime to check your watch? Or did the recent updates improve everything?
kingofthebraves said:
Does it get annoying having to flick your wrist everytime to check your watch? Or did the recent updates improve everything?
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I only got my gear 2 days ago, but I don't understand the wrist flicking thing. My watch turns on when I bring it up into a position to look at it. No flicking required. I think it is great. I can't wait for the update for the notifications. Still deciding if the custom ROM is the way to go. I haven't seen yet if the NULL ROM affects battery life.
To answer op:
1)Notifications
2)time and weather
3)media control
4) shopping checklist. Currently via evernote but I am hoping for google keep app in the future.
5) I would like a qr code / barcode scanner.
1. Picking up chicks (all though not as successful as using glass haha)
2. Notifications
3. Quick access apps
Null_ rom makes it a million times more useful
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1. Notifications
2. Weather
3. Time
4. Covert silent pictures
1. See the time
2. Put my arm on a stupid position to make/answer calls
3. see notifications(o no, i can't with my htc one grrr)
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nitropollo said:
1. See the time
2. Put my arm on a stupid position to make/answer calls
3. see notifications(o no, i can't with my htc one grrr)
Enviado desde mi HTC One mediante Tapatalk
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I've read somewhere that is possible to connect gear to HTC one...
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Brendo said:
1. Picking up chicks (all though not as successful as using glass haha)
2. Notifications
3. Quick access apps
Null_ rom makes it a million times more useful
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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What can you do with null rom? I read the page but since I don't have a gear yet am not sure what everything does.
The whole notification for Gmail, SMS, calendar fb and Whatsapp are now displayed thanks to the update right?
Is it possible to sideload Google keep?
kingofthebraves said:
What can you do with null rom? I read the page but since I don't have a gear yet am not sure what everything does.
The whole notification for Gmail, SMS, calendar fb and Whatsapp are now displayed thanks to the update right?
Is it possible to sideload Google keep?
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Yes, you can sideload anything - even with stock rom. Latest firmware+gear manager means you get notifications from all apps on phone
By using null, you get more of a stock android experience instead of a small/limited menu system from stock touchwiz launcher
Null_ offers stock plus everything in the features list. And if you don't like it, just flash back to stock - simple
Let's just say that I've been testing out a Nexus 5 and because of null, will be returning back to my s4 and the compatibility with gear
1) Time
2) Weather
3) Notifications (I almost never hear or feel my phone notifications.)
4) Phone Calls (Making calls when my hands are doing other things, driving, eating, typing, gaming, etc.)
5) Showing off
It does so much more than my old watch!
And yes, Null_ will make it much more useful, but I did EVERYTHING (root and flash ROM) last night before bed so IDK. Battery seems to be unchanged.
Xirix12 said:
1) Time
2) Weather
3) Notifications (I almost never hear or feel my phone notifications.)
4) Phone Calls (Making calls when my hands are doing other things, driving, eating, typing, gaming, etc.)
5) Showing off
It does so much more than my old watch!
And yes, Null_ will make it much more useful, but I did EVERYTHING (root and flash ROM) last night before bed so IDK. Battery seems to be unchanged.
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Checking your phone while viewing a notification with ur watch will automatically open the app /message on your phone right?
kingofthebraves said:
Checking your phone while viewing a notification with ur watch will automatically open the app /message on your phone right?
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If you are not on a custom ROM I believe that's what it does. I can't remember. With Null_ you can read the message and it gives you the option to open on the phone. I believe it gives you the option either way. I am trying to remember because I was on US stock version (Not sure about the number) then flashed UK version (V700XXUAMK7) but was on it for like 5 minutes before flashing Null_.
kingofthebraves said:
Checking your phone while viewing a notification with ur watch will automatically open the app /message on your phone right?
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Yes, that is smart relay and can be setup in gear manager
Xirix12 said:
If you are not on a custom ROM I believe that's what it does. I can't remember. With Null_ you can read the message and it gives you the option to open on the phone. I believe it gives you the option either way. I am trying to remember because I was on US stock version (Not sure about the number) then flashed UK version (V700XXUAMK7) but was on it for like 5 minutes before flashing Null_.
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Close. null_ has no effect on the notifications - they behave as they do in stock. Some apps show full notifications and no need to view on device, but option is there
Brendo said:
Yes, that is smart relay and can be setup in gear manager
Close. null_ has no effect on the notifications - they behave as they do in stock. Some apps show full notifications and no need to view on device, but option is there
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Any luck syncing Google keep?
kingofthebraves said:
Any luck syncing Google keep?
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I've not tried. It requires internet access though so would need to setup Bluetooth tethering
Brendo said:
Close. null_ has no effect on the notifications - they behave as they do in stock. Some apps show full notifications and no need to view on device, but option is there
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Oh true. I just watched a video and yea it's the same. Since I went from US version to UK version then Null_. I wasn't on the UK version long enough to notice the notifications. That's why I thought Null_ made this possible. This isn't the case for those not on the updated UK version. Before flashing the UK version my Gear would only show who it came from and the option to view on device.
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1) time
2) notifications
3)hands free phoning
4)run keeper
5)taking photos (hold finger over speaker to be sneaky )
6)media control (cool if you got some bluetooth speakers)
I have just had it for a few days now and it is more useful than I thought it would be.
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just curious to know why some have rooted their gear. especially with the latest update that gives improvements. just got the watch and still learning it but might be tempted to root if there are reasons unbeknownst to me that improves the watch even further
I rooted it so that I can put null Rom on it. That really opened up the watch for me.
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Rooted for adding a theme. The stock icons look like crap and wanted to sideload apps for ringtones, music, videos and notification sounds.
Ian B
I did just to try them null rom. After that I regret it. Although I didn't know you needed root to Install ringtones thanx
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I rooted it to put the Null_ ROM on it, because it looked really nice from the screenshots, and also I thought if i ever wanted to get a non Samsung phone then this would be the way to do it.
However it's not all it cracked up to be.. for the most part for the Null_ ROM extras to be useful you need to have bluetooth internet tethering enabled on the phone which will drain more battery on both devices, and if it disconnects you have to dive into the settings on both to enable it again. all the cool stuff where the phone just tells the watch about things (eg notifications, events, weather, contacts, etc) via bluetooth require a 4.3 TW ROM on your phone, and can be done without the Null_ ROM.
You also lose the double tap power button to open S-Voice, but this might be fixable by disabling the "Power button mod", whatever that is. I haven't looked too deeply - I have just setup a Nova gesture where you double tap the screen to open up S-Voice.
I think my watch looks nicer now with the ROM as you can choose wallpapers, but in my Nova dock i literally just have all the original apps that came with the phone, and the main widget is one of the original clock faces (the event one), i only have a second screen with a shortcut for going into the settings in case i need to enable BT internet, and a battery widget (which i can see by double two finger tapping the screen anyway).
I think the minimalist text widget that fOmey has in the screenshots on the Null_ thread look awesome, but they're just not useful enough. The next event widget is exactly what I need (apart from the time), and the ONLY way you can have a next event widget without requiring internet on the watch is to use the built in widget. If you're gonna use the built in widget, why flash a different ROM at all?
ahh .. anyway. I won't be flashing back to stock, but if i had my choice again.. i dunno if i'd bother.
i put root and null rom on it so i don't have to return it to the store.
even after gear manager updates, stock watch is a overpriced notifier on your wrist.
after rooting it i customize it the way i want it, i have access to mostly used apps, i can use apps that were not designed to be used with gear and much more.
i dunno, wanted root. i feel powerless without root
rooted every device since my gs1. And i know myself enough that i know that at some point i am going to get bored with the stock rom, and will start to customize the things i dont like.
then i want to know how;
the clock functions,
to get out of bootloops,
to simplify the process of adding apps not officially supported.
to theme elements.
to flash custom rom
to revert to stock.
now im prepared
Question, do you have to root in order to flash the recovery and null? Or I can just flan both without root? Also how do you return back to stock? Thanks in advanced...
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Mainly because of NULL rom. For me, without it Galaxy Gear would be useless! (and because after my first root, I root all devices, it gives to you the real power of the gadget!)
RiNo808 said:
Question, do you have to root in order to flash the recovery and null? Or I can just flan both without root?
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You need root.
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I rooted to flash null as well and the only thing I like about it is you can record in 720p. But I don't see too much advantage since my tmobile note3 doesn't seem to have bluetooth tethering option so I can't take advantage of any null app that require data. Didn't like have Nova Launcher as it's just too small of a screen to do anything. That's why I bought a note3 as I wanted a bigger screen. So I mainly use tw on the gear. Besides the 720p recording and seeing all the extra app in the app list is cool but not a necessity. But I'm going to keep it like this for now.
Also forgot to add another advantage with null is shutter sound is gone. You can also achieve this without null but you need to root.
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Guys, I just have my new Samsung Gear after christmas, it works very well, still happy with battery life (around 3 days). Though I miss having a keyboard to reply SMS / Emails, or do some web search.
My question is...
If I want to keep everything as it is;
- default Samsung stuff, default clock widgets
- default auto Bluetooth connection (at least Gear <-> Note 3 do that automatically...)
but* I want to:
- install a keyboard to normally reply my SMS/Emails
- do some simple websearching, with Opera / Dolphin, etc. (My phone has BT teethring)
Can I do that just by roothing my device?
the Gear is really a device that RECEIVES things - notifications, updates to display, etc. If you want to use it to SEND things, then you'll really have to root it and put on the Null_ ROM. With this you can enable bluetooth internet tethering, and the Gear can get full internet. With internet you can install apps like an email client and a keyboard (these actually come with Null_), and respond to emails etc on the Gear. Note: it's very fiddly using a keyboard on the Gear, even with swype style input.
Also regarding SMS, this can't really be done on the Gear as you would expect. As the Gear has no SIM card, you'd need an app on the Gear to talk to your phone and tell it to send the SMS.
But, you can actually do this via S-Voice. So if you're happy talking your SMS to the phone (which isn't too bad in my experience), you can get S-Voice to use your phone to send an SMS.
I rooted mine because I wanted to be able to start my car from my watch, along with hooking it up with Torque to see my times. Being able to add wallpapers is nice too
omniwolf said:
the Gear is really a device that RECEIVES things ... If you want to use it to SEND things ... and tell it to send the SMS....you can get S-Voice to use your phone to send an SMS.
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Thanks for answering Omniwolf. Well, Gear is bidirectional, when you take a picture, when you answer an SMS via premade SMS/S-Voice, you are communicating Gear <-> Phone.
My goal is not to have an independent clock like "simvalley MOBILE AW-414.Go Smartwatch", but a little more than what Gear allows in the moment.
For example:
- Answering SMS only through premade SMS...a tiny keyboard option would be fantastic! S-Voice does not work for me, it works on yours???
- No option to quick answer Whatsapp/E.mail
- When I take a picture I cannot send it through E-mail/Whatsapp (option is disabled........)
- No google translate or something like that is possible with keyboard (there is an app that uses the camera but is far from practical...)
So, in theory I just want a Gear + Keyboard + SMS/Whatsapp/Email answer option (S-Voice does not work on mine! I have a Note 3 stock Samsung Android 4.3) + Google Translate.
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Thanks for answering Omniwolf. Well, Gear is bidirectional, when you take a picture, when you answer an SMS via premade SMS/S-Voice, you are communicating Gear <-> Phone.
My goal is not to have an independent clock like "simvalley MOBILE AW-414.Go Smartwatch", but a little more than what Gear allows in the moment.
For example:
- Answering SMS only through premade SMS...a tiny keyboard option would be fantastic! S-Voice does not work for me, it works on yours???
- No option to quick answer Whatsapp/E.mail
- When I take a picture I cannot send it through E-mail/Whatsapp (option is disabled........)
- No google translate or something like that is possible with keyboard (there is an app that uses the camera but is far from practical...)
So, in theory I just want a Gear + Keyboard + SMS/Whatsapp/Email answer option (S-Voice does not work on mine! I have a Note 3 stock Samsung Android 4.3) + Google Translate.
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I answer texts with svoice all the time. Does svoice work on your device? I've used it to call a contact, narrated a # to dial, and responded to texts.
I can honestly say that there is nothing missing from my stock gear that I wish I had.
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mmick said:
Thanks for answering Omniwolf. Well, Gear is bidirectional, when you take a picture, when you answer an SMS via premade SMS/S-Voice, you are communicating Gear <-> Phone.
My goal is not to have an independent clock like "simvalley MOBILE AW-414.Go Smartwatch", but a little more than what Gear allows in the moment.
For example:
- Answering SMS only through premade SMS...a tiny keyboard option would be fantastic! S-Voice does not work for me, it works on yours???
- No option to quick answer Whatsapp/E.mail
- When I take a picture I cannot send it through E-mail/Whatsapp (option is disabled........)
- No google translate or something like that is possible with keyboard (there is an app that uses the camera but is far from practical...)
So, in theory I just want a Gear + Keyboard + SMS/Whatsapp/Email answer option (S-Voice does not work on mine! I have a Note 3 stock Samsung Android 4.3) + Google Translate.
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I think you can use tablettalk for that
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mmick said:
Thanks for answering Omniwolf. Well, Gear is bidirectional, when you take a picture, when you answer an SMS via premade SMS/S-Voice, you are communicating Gear <-> Phone.
My goal is not to have an independent clock like "simvalley MOBILE AW-414.Go Smartwatch", but a little more than what Gear allows in the moment.
For example:
- Answering SMS only through premade SMS...a tiny keyboard option would be fantastic! S-Voice does not work for me, it works on yours???
- No option to quick answer Whatsapp/E.mail
- When I take a picture I cannot send it through E-mail/Whatsapp (option is disabled........)
- No google translate or something like that is possible with keyboard (there is an app that uses the camera but is far from practical...)
So, in theory I just want a Gear + Keyboard + SMS/Whatsapp/Email answer option (S-Voice does not work on mine! I have a Note 3 stock Samsung Android 4.3) + Google Translate.
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yeah, i know the Gear can send things to the watch, it's a BT connection with is bidirectional. My point is that without rooting, the gear isn't designed to send things, it's more of a receiver. 90% of the things done on it are incoming, not outgoing. Sure, all photos go the other direction, and using S-Voice you can create a bunch of things on the watch, but it's the minority.
I think i've alread answered all your other questions, so i won't rehash (more), but it really seems like you want Samsung to add a bunch of outgoing functionality to the watch, which is fine by me, i think a lot of it would be useful.
Yes S-Voice works for me, make sure it's installed and usable on your phone before trying it on the watch.
To free myself of Gear Manager
BT tether + tablet talk = profit
So worth it...
-Null ROM's feature set
-Bluetooth internet tethering (from a U.S. carrier stock ROM with BT tethering option nuked)
-Use with non Samsung device (probably going back to Nexus soon)
S voice is way too limited (even worse on the watch). Google Now and Internet access makes the watch worth the price tag. 300 bucks with a little research and now I can say "Can your Rolex do this?" So worth it...
tkjeeper said:
I answer texts with svoice all the time. Does svoice work on your device? I've used it to call a contact, narrated a # to dial, and responded to texts.
I can honestly say that there is nothing missing from my stock gear that I wish I had.
Sent from my SM-N900W8 using xda app-developers app
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I wish S-Voice worked for me. It doesn't hear me well and I keep getting "I didn't catch that" even when I just want to confirm to send a text.
It gets frustrating.
Still on the fence if I should get one
kingofthebraves said:
Still on the fence if I should get one
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Both, LOL, great as I never have to pull my phone out to do some things, Worse as I keep playing with it all the time roms, themes ect... LOL
Just wondering how much more can they do with this ...it's cool but knowing there's no Insurance on it just makes me leary sometimes ...
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I was debating on 3 smart watches to get and the gear won. I've had it 24 hours and I can't stop playing with it.
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i was re-ROM'ng my S4 and N3 every other day and havent touched it since the Gear. Ooh but now I try new NULL/Stock setups every day with my GEAR!
HAHA!
i actually enjoy something new to tinker with and my phone now has a few days rest
almulder1092 said:
Both, LOL, great as I never have to pull my phone out to do some things, Worse as I keep playing with it all the time roms, themes ect... LOL
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Same here. I love it. However spend a lot of time playing with it and having to set it up over and over. Fun times
Really doesn't do enough for me but it is a fun gadget and people love to hear about it.
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I imagine the best thing about owning a gear is keeping your phone in your pocket on silent and only bringing it out when you want to reply. Also, answering phone calls while driving and music control when your phone is docked to the speakers.
I've played around with my friend's pebble and its annoying that notifications aren't synced with your phone. You have to view them once on your watch and them dismiss them again on your phone.
kingofthebraves said:
I imagine the best thing about owning a gear is keeping your phone in your pocket on silent and only bringing it out when you want to reply. Also, answering phone calls while driving and music control when your phone is docked to the speakers.
I've played around with my friend's pebble and its annoying that notifications aren't synced with your phone. You have to view them once on your watch and them dismiss them again on your phone.
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Technically you don't even have to pull your phone out to reply I never do things to the gear having s voice.
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kingofthebraves said:
I've played around with my friend's pebble and its annoying that notifications aren't synced with your phone. You have to view them once on your watch and them dismiss them again on your phone.
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there is no difference with the gear. You have to dismiss notifications on the gear (which can be a bit annoying as you have to go through each app's notifications and dismiss), and they won't be dismissed on the phone, you have to dismiss it on the phone as well.
Supposedly the gear does clear the phone emails and mark them as read if you use the native email app. I use Gmail and do have to clear the phone again after reading in the gear. Also the gear doesn't show the entire email. It shows most of it, then says to see the rest on the phone...
maximus96 said:
Supposedly the gear does clear the phone emails and mark them as read if you use the native email app. I use Gmail and do have to clear the phone again after reading in the gear. Also the gear doesn't show the entire email. It shows most of it, then says to see the rest on the phone...
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That's for non Samsung apps right? But all the rest will clear just fine?
omniwolf said:
there is no difference with the gear. You have to dismiss notifications on the gear (which can be a bit annoying as you have to go through each app's notifications and dismiss), and they won't be dismissed on the phone, you have to dismiss it on the phone as well.
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I thought that was the whole point of smart relay?
gear made my life easier, but only because of custom ROM. i'm still using null 11.1 where everything is working for me, so i don't see a need to make an update and spend another hour configuring everything, i'm not a number whore..
stock gear is a devils device, terrible to use with zero configuration.
hurdlejade said:
gear made my life easier, but only because of custom ROM. i'm still using null 11.1 where everything is working for me, so i don't see a need to make an update and spend another hour configuring everything, i'm not a number whore..
stock gear is a devils device, terrible to use with zero configuration.
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I've been reading up and looking at YouTube on what u can do with null rom but I'm still confused. How is this better than stock rom? Do features like smart relay still work with null rom?
maximus96 said:
Supposedly the gear does clear the phone emails and mark them as read if you use the native email app. I use Gmail and do have to clear the phone again after reading in the gear. Also the gear doesn't show the entire email. It shows most of it, then says to see the rest on the phone...
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yeah, of course if you load an email app on the watch and have internet to the watch, then marking an email as read on the watch will mark it as read on the server, and mark it as read on any device, including your phone. but using the built in gear notifications, it won't do this.
kingofthebraves said:
I thought that was the whole point of smart relay?
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no. smart delay is just to open up the app on your phone. So if you're looking at an SMS notification on your watch and you pick up your phone, Gear Manager will open up the SMS app on your phone for you. This in turn will clear the notification, but only as a side effect.
kingofthebraves said:
I've been reading up and looking at YouTube on what u can do with null rom but I'm still confused. How is this better than stock rom? Do features like smart relay still work with null rom?
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i never used smart relay, but i guess it will work, because wake-up gesture works on mine.
why is it better? because it is. i can use internet, have a custom layout for my apps (no more swiping across 7 pages to get to the voice memos or any other app). if i want to do something on my watch, i can do it within 3 seconds, literally.
i can start a direct dial to a predefined person.
i can record 60 seconds videos with custom rom.
i can secretly record both video and audio without time limit while keeping screen off (saves battery life).
i can set a countdown timer, or a stopwatch.
i can read ebooks.
i can sync my google keep notes
i can sync my grocery list
i can browse 9gag on my wrist
i can use calculator!
i can check and answer to my emails (by using gmail and google keyboard)
i can use google translate service (with both text and audio input)
i can check my bank account
i can use hangouts IM
i can play some simple games
i can have full calendar agenda
i can use full google maps
.. and way more.
now, what can you do with stock rom?
you can answer calls.
you can take 15 secs max videos.
you can reply to texts using s voice.
you can download stock apps available in samsung store (not a single one is worth your time)
you can pair it only with other samsung phones.
for me the answer is clear. if i can't put null on it, it goes back to store as a terrible smartwatch. it's capable of way more things than samsung officialy let you use..
hurdlejade said:
i never used smart relay, but i guess it will work, because wake-up gesture works on mine.
why is it better? because it is. i can use internet, have a custom layout for my apps (no more swiping across 7 pages to get to the voice memos or any other app). if i want to do something on my watch, i can do it within 3 seconds, literally.
i can start a direct dial to a predefined person.
i can record 60 seconds videos with custom rom.
i can secretly record both video and audio without time limit while keeping screen off (saves battery life).
i can set a countdown timer, or a stopwatch.
i can read ebooks.
i can sync my google keep notes
i can sync my grocery list
i can browse 9gag on my wrist
i can use calculator!
i can check and answer to my emails (by using gmail and google keyboard)
i can use google translate service (with both text and audio input)
i can check my bank account
i can use hangouts IM
i can play some simple games
i can have full calendar agenda
i can use full google maps
.. and way more.
now, what can you do with stock rom?
you can answer calls.
you can take 15 secs max videos.
you can reply to texts using s voice.
you can download stock apps available in samsung store (not a single one is worth your time)
you can pair it only with other samsung phones.
for me the answer is clear. if i can't put null on it, it goes back to store as a terrible smartwatch. it's capable of way more things than samsung officialy let you use..
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Wow! I never thought about using it that way, impressive indeed especially direct call and text. While on null rom u can still receive SMS and call notifications like how you would on stock gear Rom right? Or does it replicate how a real phone does it?
kingofthebraves said:
Wow! I never thought about using it that way, impressive indeed especially direct call and text. While on null rom u can still receive SMS and call notifications like how you would on stock gear Rom right? Or does it replicate how a real phone does it?
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i can receive sms and call notifications and also notifications from other apps (you choose what you want displayed).
there is no easy way to reply to texts though, there is a tabletsms but it doesn't work so fluently.
you do not loose any functionality when running custom rom. you just gain more.
Since we're not allowed to use our cell phones at work, I'm able to covertly use the internet with this thing.
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Hello people I'm thinking if buy a galaxy gear for use with my Samsung Galaxy s4 mini but I want to know if exist a way for at least answer my whatsapp messages..
I know that the gear with the last ANDROID update can show all the notification but cannot answer them.
it's possible to install a APK file of whatsapp or whatsapp plus and copy the data with titanium backup of your phone and restore on your galaxy gear and use it like anothe normal Android app? or when you try to open the installed whatsapp on your galaxy gear the app crash?
I hope someone try that and answer me, because I dunno if buy this watch or a Sony smartwatch 2 that can answer whatsapp, I know all the differences between them and I know the gear it's absolutely better, starting on the gear use a full version of Android, and has the capacity for install full Android app and the smartwatch 2 can't, etc, etc..
I just want to know if exist a way to use whatsapp or answer my whatsapp directly from the Galaxy gear. Thanks.
Nope, you need a watch with android wear
yes you can if you are on null rom. simply install playstore apks as normal im using hangouts now even better now that they migrated hangouts dialer so now i can make google voice calls from my gear watch as well as normal call app. and we can also reply to sms via svoice or as im using now google now..
Cod3L1ne said:
yes you can if you are on null rom. simply install playstore apks as normal im using hangouts now even better now that they migrated hangouts dialer so now i can make google voice calls from my gear watch as well as normal call app. and we can also reply to sms via svoice or as im using now google now..
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So, you can install whatsapp and use it like a normal cellphone? Someone said to me that when you install whatsapp from an APK on the watch it say that isn't compatible with tablets.
migueldvp said:
So, you can install whatsapp and use it like a normal cellphone? Someone said to me that when you install whatsapp from an APK on the watch it say that isn't compatible with tablets.
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Read again he said if you use null Rom. Now search forum for what is null Rom. Then you will understand. Null Rom is full android Rom for gear one only.
If WhatsApp is installed as an APK on Gear, It will be an independent application with a different number which will operate without any dependence from the WhatsApp in your Phone. You will have to activate it for a different number other than your primary number on the phone. So yeah, You can only run WhatsApp on Gear as a relay to your Note 3 to delievr notifications. Even installing NULL wont do any help to this. It will be a relay only to view messages.
My Understanding ^ Do Correct me if I'm wrong.
Would be awesome to reply via the gear... probably my most wanted feature...