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Okay, new to this. Started up a gear yesterday and I'm impressed. Now I want to go further... (already bored lol). Any links to docs on how to develop for this thing. I already know that this it is standard Android and that one can write standalone apps the usual way for this thing. What I'm interested in is how the communication model works with companion apps on the phone. I suspect it will be done by running services on the phone, but how can one interact with those services via a Bluetooth connection. Or is it event driven?
I'm really surprised that Samsung hasn't publiced anything about this on their site? What? Don't they like developers to jump on the bandwagon?
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appelflap said:
Okay, new to this. Started up a gear yesterday and I'm impressed. Now I want to go further... (already bored lol). Any links to docs on how to develop for this thing. I already know that this it is standard Android and that one can write standalone apps the usual way for this thing. What I'm interested in is how the communication model works with companion apps on the phone. I suspect it will be done by running services on the phone, but how can one interact with those services via a Bluetooth connection. Or is it event driven?
I'm really surprised that Samsung hasn't publiced anything about this on their site? What? Don't they like developers to jump on the bandwagon?
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I don't believe the SDK has been released yet, welcome to the gear community nether the less.
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I don't believe the SDK has been released yet, welcome to the gear community nether the less.
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So you think they work with special APIs? Or just the standard APIs? I saw there were already some interesting apps on the Samsung market like for example Zine. It has a controller architecture. On the Gear side you get headlines pushed and by tapping on a headline the Zine app is opened with the corresponding article. Can this can be done with standard Android APIs or do we need a special APIs for that. I can imagine that this can be done with the standard event model.
@lucf I did, couldn't find anything interesting wrt this topic. If you stumble upon some good posts let me know! Thx
Appears that Samsung kept it 'invite-only' for now:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57609639-94/this-is-why-there-arent-more-samsung-galaxy-gear-apps/
CLARiiON said:
Appears that Samsung kept it 'invite-only' for now:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57609639-94/this-is-why-there-arent-more-samsung-galaxy-gear-apps/
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Crap, so it does work with proprietary APIs? Right, might return this thing and wait till it is open for development, cheaper and will have more apps. They should have written that on the box. With their crap apps.
appelflap said:
Crap, so it does work with proprietary APIs? Right, might return this thing and wait till it is open for development, cheaper and will have more apps. They should have written that on the box. With their crap apps.
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"We need to make sure we're ready to go big."
Thats a quote from the article, they will be released. Although not just yet..
they never said they will release the sdk to the public, did they? so please stop making false claims.
samsung might as well decide that they are not ready to go big with this generation (lack of wifi, poor software etc). what then?
hurdlejade said:
they never said they will release the sdk to the public, did they? so please stop making false claims.
samsung might as well decide that they are not ready to go big with this generation (lack of wifi, poor software etc). what then?
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It's definitely a remarkable manoeuvre. Another remarkable thing is that everything is kept in the Samsung app store. It's not a secret that Samsung has big ambitions. Maybe they are trying to build their own ecosystem in the Android ecosystem. Maybe they gonna lock the APIs in some kind of Samsung Appstore service. Meh .. let's hope Google comes up with a watch soon and an addition to the Android framework for smart watches.
I recently tried to release an app to the Samsung store specifically for the gear but it was rejected for "other" reasons...
Seems like the public are just unknowing beta testers of a half-arsed device by Samsung.
n13astra said:
I recently tried to release an app to the Samsung store specifically for the gear but it was rejected for "other" reasons...
Seems like the public are just unknowing beta testers of a half-arsed device by Samsung.
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Really? What did you try to submit? A simple standalone app that only runs on the gear?
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Really? What did you try to submit? A simple standalone app that only runs on the gear?
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Tried to release my Calculator app that only runs on the Gear. I've since emailed back asking what "other" reasons they are talking about.
Just speculation on my part --
I have a feeling that Samsung is simply testing waters with this initial release of Gear. They are very serious about it, but they also know that it's not entirely polished product. They wanted to be first to market.
I think the 2rev of Gear might have some radical changes. They could probably build it on top of Kitkat (optimized for low memory devices?) and some new low energy communication protocols. Probably they will then open the APIs for all devs. Maybe we will also see some of the curved screen goodness!
But it's for sure they will never make the Gear compatible with all Android by default -- doesn't make a good business sense. Google will obviously try to make their smartwatch compatible with all Android, and that makes perfect business sense for google.
n13astra said:
Tried to release my Calculator app that only runs on the Gear. I've since emailed back asking what "other" reasons they are talking about.
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are you the guy who made it? nice. i sideloaded it into my Gear. works flawlessly, althought I would like to see some colored theme like numbers in one color, functions in other. 5 stars from me! super lite too!
Thanks...The coloured buttons are on the way...
So I have a DVD headunit which I purchased last year it has better specs than those of Windows CEs but still was wondering what is the minimum required hardware to run Android Auto or to port it?
the one i have is this > http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/295405311.html?orderId=60478515687114
It would be great if I could run a newer version of Android on that.
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You can't
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Anything is possible.
It's just "very, very difficult" without Google's source code.
Without the Google code (which I doubt will be released), or code from a non-trivial reverse engineering project, I think it would become merely "very difficult", especially for Chinese devices with no documentation.
tatail said:
So I have a DVD headunit which I purchased last year it has better specs than those of Windows CEs but still was wondering what is the minimum required hardware to run Android Auto or to port it?
the one i have is this > http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/295405311.html?orderId=60478515687114
It would be great if I could run a newer version of Android on that.
thanks
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I thought i'd bump this because i have found something that may interest you after looking for something similar for ages:
It's called automate https:// plus.google. com/communities/102908788212710276577 it's a clone of android auto that you can install as an apk and looks amazing!
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I thought i'd bump this because i have found something that may interest you after looking for something similar for ages:
It's called automate https:// plus.google. com/communities/102908788212710276577 it's a clone of android auto that you can install as an apk and looks amazing!
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hey thanks for the link, but do you think this will be able to run on Android 2.3?
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I thought i'd bump this because i have found something that may interest you after looking for something similar for ages:
It's called automate https:// plus.google. com/communities/102908788212710276577 it's a clone of android auto that you can install as an apk and looks amazing!
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Automate is an app that looks somewhat, sort of similar to AA, but it's not AA, and it won't be able to take advantage of all the AA enhancements Google will be putting out over the next several years.
I've written an Android Auto Headunit app that can turn a tablet or phone into a basic AA compatible headunit. It works with the standard Google AA app and will continue to support it as it, and my app, get new features.
Tablets on a dashboard have some disadvantages compared to "real" head units.
So I'm now looking at the most popular Chinese headunits, and I'd like to try to get my app to run on the more popular ones at least. If it looks more or less like a standard Android device, which is pretty likely, it should work...
I'm about to post release #2 of my app on my thread in this section if anyone wants to try.
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Automate is an app that looks somewhat, sort of similar to AA, but it's not AA, and it won't be able to take advantage of all the AA enhancements Google will be putting out over the next several years.
I've written an Android Auto Headunit app that can turn a tablet or phone into a basic AA compatible headunit. It works with the standard Google AA app and will continue to support it as it, and my app, get new features.
Tablets on a dashboard have some disadvantages compared to "real" head units.
So I'm now looking at the most popular Chinese headunits, and I'd like to try to get my app to run on the more popular ones at least. If it looks more or less like a standard Android device, which is pretty likely, it should work...
I'm about to post release #2 of my app on my thread in this section if anyone wants to try.
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My week keeps getting better! does your app support jellybean? as I know a lot of headunits out there (even good spec ones) are stuck on 4.1
Thanks!
stewartie4 said:
My week keeps getting better! does your app support jellybean? as I know a lot of headunits out there (even good spec ones) are stuck on 4.1
Thanks!
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It seemed to work on my stock Xperia P with 4.1.
It's currently configured to require 4.0 minimum, but there is some small chance it could even run on 2.3, if a good H264 decoder is present.
It's still pretty new but I was wondering what if anybody has seen Android Auto?
What do you think of it?
Do you think it's better/worse than Apple's CarPlay?
It seems pretty cool from a developer's standpoint - you can actually create apps to use in the car!
I've seen demonstrations of both at the Chicago Auto Show. To me, I don't see why you would compare one to the other. I think early adopters that are going to want this at this point in time are well established in the ecosystem of their choice and they are going to pick the one that matches their ecosystem.
Well i just have to say it... The design of carplay is catastrophic compared to auto... There i had to put that out
I haven't seen it in person, but it looks pretty good in my opinion.
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jkcarp94 said:
I've seen demonstrations of both at the Chicago Auto Show. To me, I don't see why you would compare one to the other. I think early adopters that are going to want this at this point in time are well established in the ecosystem of their choice and they are going to pick the one that matches their ecosystem.
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I agree that people who are well established in their ecosystems will pick one over there other -- but is that really good for innovation? It seems like we aren't really pushing to develop new interactions but rather trying to shove the same ideas into a car ecosystem... just a thought
Good
The pioneer AVH-4100NE is shipping right now for... 700$...
Someone know when will Google put this app to store?
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DiTubex said:
Someone know when will Google put this app to store?
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The app is available in the store.
Seen it. Bought it.
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It's still pretty new but I was wondering what if anybody has seen Android Auto?
What do you think of it?
Do you think it's better/worse than Apple's CarPlay?
It seems pretty cool from a developer's standpoint - you can actually create apps to use in the car!
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The pioneer head unit supports fully both AA and Carplay. Either way, it's a win, win for me. I've been using sync up until now, and unfortunately many of my mobile/auto apps do not work as expected with the new lollipop. So far I am impressed. How developers will use this should be interesting. My phone as always been part of my car so most things are already out there for use, but who knows what other great features have been overlooked and are waiting for creative development.
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The app is available in the store.
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How is it call? Can you give me a link?
Or it built in maps? I can't find it...
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How is it call? Can you give me a link?
Or it built in maps? I can't find it...
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Its called android auto
killa2009 said:
Its called android auto
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Look at that, this play store throws..
Please, give me a link.
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DiTubex said:
Look at that, this play store throws..
Please, give me a link.
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Check out "Android Auto" - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.projection.gearhead
Required Android 5.0+
Thx mate!
If you are going to buy one what will you pick WebOS or Android Wear?
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If you are going to buy one what will you pick WebOS or Android Wear?
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Without a doubt WebOS, i hope it comes to the U.S., looks like i'll have to wait til at least 2016 for that.
I would love the WebOS, exactly what I want. A Gear S with a circular screen that has an OS actually designed for a circular screen. Plus it has a 700mah battery which is huge compared to the watches that have come out so far.
I have fallen for this watch and now subscribed to there threads here on XDA.
I am just wondering what will be the price for LG Urbane LTE. Hope fully its not highly priced, 400Euros is affordable I will be able to purchase this.
i've never been fascinated with smart watches because of those square and rectangle displays. I never liked the Moto watches aswell as they were more of vintage rounded watches not this could be a big game changer in the smart watches world.
I am also looking forward for this but the LTE looks too big. Also, the fact that I would have to pay for another data plan is not good. Why can't they make it with WebOS and wifi only?
Badelhas said:
I am also looking forward for this but the LTE looks too big. Also, the fact that I would have to pay for another data plan is not good. Why can't they make it with WebOS and wifi only?
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Yes, this! Looking for an Urbane LTE, but without the LTE. I like the LTE style the best out of all the smart watches at the moment. Hopefully it is very efficient and they'll support more than just Android for companion apps/interfaces.
I will defo go for Android Wear Google will be bringing more updates to it and already has tons of apps while on webOS you wont get as many apps and development.
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I will defo go for Android Wear Google will be bringing more updates to it and already has tons of apps while on webOS you wont get as many apps and development.
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web os has tons of apps allready (tv) this watch uses a grapically changed version of it an as long as lg didn't touch to much under the hood most apps will just work
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web os has tons of apps allready (tv) this watch uses a grapically changed version of it an as long as lg didn't touch to much under the hood most apps will just work
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I own a LG 4k TV myself running webOS and I have to say there ain't a lot of apps but I do hope there will be more in the future
Kahun said:
I own a LG 4k TV myself running webOS and I have to say there ain't a lot of apps but I do hope there will be more in the future
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the biggest ones are there already(youtube, email*, massage*, camera shutter*, news apps)
*preinstalled
I choose Urbane because it is a standalone device rather than a companion device.
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If you are going to buy one what will you pick WebOS or Android Wear?
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As much as I love WebOS, I've always been more of an Android person, so I'd have to go with that one.
battery on the us website lists it at 410mah - http://www.lg.com/us/smartwatch/urbane
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battery on the us website lists it at 410mah - http://www.lg.com/us/smartwatch/urbane
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How much does the LG G Watch R have?
It's the same. In fact the Urbane is identical to its predecessor with the exception of the packaging and updated version of Wear.
Ever since Android Auto was announced at Google I/O last year, I really wanted to have it in my car. Unfortunately, I am not in the market for a new car, or even a $800 car stereo that supports Android Auto.
With that in mind, I set out to make an app called AutoMate that gives a similar experience to Android Auto. After five months of work, I am close to releasing a beta version. I am very excited to share some early screen shots with you guys today.
Would you see yourself using something like this? I'd love to hear some thoughts and opinions! I can't give an exact release date just yet, but I am hoping for the end of March.
I also created a g+ community that I will be using when the app is ready for beta testing. Please feel free to join to get updates about development.
I'd love to hear your thoughts!
Tnx broo
Congrats men, look very similar to android auto, is a very good option, i test your app and report, and also tell to my friends
Thats got alot potential man! looking good. I've got a in-dash nexus 7 ready to test
AMAZING!
Sign me right up!
Great work man ! it looks very promising, I surely would like to install it on my galaxy Note 1 running CM12 !
if the app can be triggered by connecting a Bluetooth device or a car-mount (Driving mode) that would be perfect !
keep up the good work, best luck
Correct me if wrong, but AutoMate is (or will be) a "regular" app, right ?
It is not Android Auto, or a direct alternative to AA. IE if I build an app with Android Auto features, it will not automatically have those features used in the same way as AA.
I mean no offense, and I am not attempting to criticize what this app is doing, but I think it needs to be made clear that this is not AA, nor is/will it be compatible with AA.
For these reasons, perhaps a post here in the AA section might be misplaced.
If it does what it does well, and people like it, that's great, and I look forward to seeing an APK posted.
Can't wait to try this out in my car install. Would be more than happy to test it for you if needed. Keep up the good work!!
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Correct, it's a regular app. Sorry if I was not clear. It's not affiliated with AA or compatible with AA in any way. The reason I posted it here was because some users expressed frustrations with not being able to run the AA UI on their phones, and this app provides an alternative.
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Correct me if wrong, but AutoMate is (or will be) a "regular" app, right ?
It is not Android Auto, or a direct alternative to AA. IE if I build an app with Android Auto features, it will not automatically have those features used in the same way as AA.
I mean no offense, and I am not attempting to criticize what this app is doing, but I think it needs to be made clear that this is not AA, nor is/will it be compatible with AA.
For these reasons, perhaps a post here in the AA section might be misplaced.
If it does what it does well, and people like it, that's great, and I look forward to seeing an APK posted.
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Why is this tagged as Beta? it's not available to download. This is at most a teaser, in which I don't see the point. Post when you actually have something to share.
I'm willing to be a tester. I love what you are doing. I have a pioneer AVH-X4700BS so I'd love to see what your app looks like on my 7inch touchscreen. Congrats man
Bit, this looks amazing, I am very excited for this, will this require a minimum version of android? I have a parrot asteroid smart that runs android gingerbread 2.3.7 and I would love to be able to run this on there so I wouldn't have to buy a new head unit. Thanks!
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Bit, this looks amazing, I am very excited for this, will this require a minimum version of android? I have a parrot asteroid smart that runs android gingerbread 2.3.7 and I would love to be able to run this on there so I wouldn't have to buy a new head unit. Thanks!
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Not trying to be a jerk. Buy it says 4.2+ in the post title.
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Not trying to be a jerk. Buy it says 4.2+ in the post title.
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Yep.. I saw that when I just got the notification that someone replied.... Hahaha
Gator Brah said:
Thats got alot potential man! looking good. I've got a in-dash nexus 7 ready to test
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This looks awesome, can't wait to test the beta.
I have been using the beta with my in-dash Nexus 7 for a few days and I like it, I like it a lot, it is well designed and easy to navigation however it is a real shame (due to Android / Google play service limitations) that turn by turn directions will leave the app.
I suppose paying for the premium features and having it as the home screen is a good workaround.
Check out the OP's Google+ page. There's a link to download the APK to test it out.
So would this app replace the launcher on my android head unit in my car or is it meant for the phone side of it?