Okay, here goes! First post here, and hopefully a useful one for others.
The prerequisite info:
T-mobile Galaxy Tab flashed to GT-P1000
Firmware Version 2.2
Baseband version T959TLJL3_ROTO-2G / w/ switch: T849UVJJB_ROTO3G
Kernel version 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #1
Build number FROYO.XXJME
I purchased this Gtab stock, and went through Rotohammers tutorial for using the tablet as a phone while still retaining 3g capabilities of a data plan. I think I got all of that working correctly but can't verify it as I don't have a T-mobile sim card with data. (verified voice calling does work on the Tab on T-mobile)
I have since then installed Sipdroid and Google Voice with a PBXes trunk so that I can make free wifi calls using Google Voice to/from anywhere with wifi, or on 3g. All that is working great. ....BUT....
I thought the Gtab was unlocked with Roto's firmware, but I found out it wasn't when I inserted my AT&T based sim card (Actually "Consumer Cellular") It was saying "enter network lock control key" on startup with that sim installed.
I found an unlocking app in the market called Galaxy_S Unlock and went through the steps to unlock the Gtab for my AT&T card and it will not make or receive calls. In the settings it shows my phone number for the sim card, and has the IMEI # and such, but no worky. I'm wondering if there is a conflict in the settings of the device with Google Voice and/or SipDroid? All of those use the dialer app that the Euro firmware has on it... I can make Wifi calls with the dialer, but when I disconnect the wifi it doesn't connect the call. It all closes down as if the call ended. Any help on this, or do I NEED to remove the Sipdroid app or could there be some APN issues? BTW data doesn't work either on the sim card in either 2g or 3g modems that I used from Roto. I know I will probably have to use a different AT&T modem for the 3g, but the 2g one should work, right?
Update: Okay, got 2g data to work after going in and changing the APN settings for Consumer Cellular (AT&T). It still closes the dialer app when I try to make a voice call with the wifi disconnected. On the 3g modem it only gets Edge network just like the 2G setting. I'm going to try uninstalling Google Voice and see what happens.
Hooray, problem fixed... at leat partially!
Okay, uninstalling Google Voice fixed the problem. Now I need to figure out how to keep my free Wifi calling capabilities while still having Google Voice installed. Any ideas?
Problem solved!
Okay, got EVERYTHING working now with the exception of the correct modem for 3g on AT&T. I went back through and re checked my data settings, reinstalled google voice and now everything works as it should. When wifi is available my calls use wifi and when there isn't wifi it uses my sim cards cellular service. I just need the 3g modem for AT&T and I'll be set. I had to set up Google Voice so that it would prompt me to either use or not use GV to make the call and now everything is perfect. Free wifi calls on my Gtab and now a back up phone if my current one craps out. Yay!
great to hear that.
Now you might want to read the success story here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1258782&highlight=850mhz
But you have a T-Mobile tab there. Not sure if flashing AT&T modem works for it.
Let us know if you are successful.
You won't get 3g. If you use JK3 modem on t-mobile tab you will get good voice, EDGE data. You won't need the modem switch.
IF YOU EVER WORRY ABOUT USING UP YOUR 100 MINUTES AND DON'T WANT TO SET UP A SIP ACCOUNT, KEEP READING.
***THIS APPLIES IF YOU HAVE A GOOGLE VOICE NUMBER THAT YOU CONSIDER YOUR PRIMARY NUMBER***
So I know everybody and his/her mothers already knows about the beauty of Tmo's $30 prepaid plan, which comes with 5 GB of LTE data (2G after that), 100 minutes, and unlimited text. I just wanted to add a tip that I thought might come in handy.
My personal situation is the following:
--->Tmo subscriber with Nexus 5 and two phone numbers: Google Voice and Tmo. (I have LTE coverage virtually everywhere I live. No hit or miss.)
--->Ported my old Sprint number over to Google Voice. This is the only number I give out. I don't mind not having full MMS functionality just yet (I can receive MMS from other Tmo subscribers). My Tmo number is just linked to my Google Voice account.
--->I have Hangouts and Google Voice apps/extensions installed everywhere and anywhere: Nexus 10, Nexus 5, laptop, work PC, etc.
--->I have a yearly subscription with Skype ($30/yr) that I use to make calls over LTE. I like the integration with my phone, especially when I use Google to make calls with the "OK Google" detection. The Skype Dialer always comes up as an option, and I'm allowed to decide whether to make calls over Skype or via the phone. (This allows me to show either my Google Voice number or Tmo number).
So my personal setup usually involved answering the calls over Hangouts via my PC, since I always had access to the internet via WiFi or LAN.
But now with the Hangouts and Google Voice integration, I let Hangouts ring whenever people dial my Google Voice number, and I set Google Voice to not ring my personal Tmo number anymore. Whereas I used to debate about whether or not to set up a SIP account, now I don't need one. Hangouts will automatically ring my phone whenever people call my Google Voice number, and whenever I answer the calls, they are automatically answered over LTE. No more worrying about using up my 100 minutes.
This, of course, depends on the user having guaranteed LTE, HSPA+, or even decent 3G everywhere.
With regards to the Skype subscription, I may or may not get rid of it. I like being able to dial using my voice, and the Hangouts Dialer currently doesn't appear as an option for making calls whenever I issue the voice command.
Hope somebody found this useful. Comments welcome.
Been doing something similar since Google updated Hangouts—particularly since my home office is in the basement and I get poor T-Mobile (same prepaid plan) coverage there. Go Google!
BinkXDA said:
Been doing something similar since Google updated Hangouts—particularly since my home office is in the basement and I get poor T-Mobile (same prepaid plan) coverage there. Go Google!
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Sounds like a plan! I just hope that the devs can hammer out a few of the minor issues with Hangouts, specifically the lag. All in good time though. Happy to have what I got so far!
I also disabled forwarding to my sip did and tm #. Hangouts/GV is doing just fine on its own.
Does someone knows if the Google Voice app now can be uninstalled? Will I be able to make and receive calls with my Google voice number from the Hangouts without G.Voice app?
denis_y_s said:
Does someone knows if the Google Voice app now can be uninstalled?
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You shouldn't uninstall the voice app as it's still needed for other apps trying to use a dialer.
jnbanda said:
I just hope that the devs can hammer out a few of the minor issues with Hangouts, specifically the lag.
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Outside of call setup, I have no lag! That said, Hangouts does seem to use FAR more of the battery for calls compared to the built-in Internet calling.
denis_y_s said:
Does someone knows if the Google Voice app now can be uninstalled? Will I be able to make and receive calls with my Google voice number from the Hangouts without G.Voice app?
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I guess it depends on how you want to make and receive calls.
I uninstalled the Google Voice app because it no longer receives my SMS messages. The messages automatically get forwarded to Hangouts.
Furthermore, I don't make calls using the stock dialer app, so I don't have a need to make calls from my phone via Google Voice. (I don't need Google Voice to generate an automatic number for the person I wish to call anymore. This issue led me to saving two numbers for every contact: one labeled as their "true carrier" number, and one labeled as the Google Voice assigned number that I would see on my phone.)
If you still intend to make calls using the stock dialer, I'd say leave Google Voice installed. If you don't plan on making calls through the stock dialer anymore, but instead wish to make and receive calls via Hangouts only, then it should be OK to uninstall.
***NOTE: Be sure to check the two boxes in the Hangouts App settings labeled "Incoming Phone Calls" and "Messages" under
Settings->"[email protected]". If you don't want your phone to ring twice for every call, you need to disable forwarding of calls to your carrier number through the Google Voice website settings, under the tab "Groups & Circles". Be aware that your phone WILL NOT RING THROUGH THE STOCK DIALER APP ANYMORE if you disable the call forwarding. It will ONLY RING THROUGH HANGOUTS, which requires an active internet connection.***
BinkXDA said:
Outside of call setup, I have no lag! That said, Hangouts does seem to use FAR more of the battery for calls compared to the built-in Internet calling.
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Hmmm.. Interesting. The only lag I see is in the amount of time it takes to launch the app and allow me to open up/tap a conversation. At first I had a few crashes when I would try to open up a convo pretty fast, like immediate tapping on the screen as soon as Hangouts launched. The crash issue seems to be resolved with the update. Perhaps it is an issue with my personal setup. I'm running rooted/stock/Franco kernel/Dalvik.
Still uses minutes
I have been making calls through the hangout dialer and have confirmed that the call is going out as my Google Voice number. The problem is that it still uses minutes. I just got off the chat with a rep at T-Mobile and she confirmed that on the $30 T-Mobile plan VOIP and wifi calling still use minutes.
Is there any way around this?
seagood3 said:
I have been making calls through the hangout dialer and have confirmed that the call is going out as my Google Voice number. The problem is that it still uses minutes. I just got off the chat with a rep at T-Mobile and she confirmed that on the $30 T-Mobile plan VOIP and wifi calling still use minutes.
Is there any way around this?
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I have the same plan. Hangouts does not use your plan minutes—just data. That said, T-Mobile does have a special Wi-Fi Calling option, which does use minutes, but it’s not available on the N5, at least not at this time.
BinkXDA said:
I have the same plan. Hangouts does not use your plan minutes—just data. That said, T-Mobile does have a special Wi-Fi Calling option, which does use minutes, but it’s not available on the N5, at least not at this time.
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Are you rooted or something? I have a moto x and running 4.4.4. I just put $10 dollars into my account yesterday and have using google hangout dialer exclusively and now am down to $3. I had a chat with T-Mobile just now and the rep confirmed that it does use minutes. What am I missing here? The rep even credited me $7 for the confusion that I thought it would use data not minutes. She said that on the post pay plans it does not use minutes.
seagood3 said:
Are you rooted or something? I have a moto x and running 4.4.4. I just put $10 dollars into my account yesterday and have using google hangout dialer exclusively and now am down to $3. I had a chat with T-Mobile just now and the rep confirmed that it does use minutes. What am I missing here? The rep even credited me $7 for the confusion that I thought it would use data not minutes. She said that on the post pay plans it does not use minutes.
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Nope. Not sure what’s going on—unless somehow your T-Mobile number is involved. Hangouts simply uses data so I’m uncertain why your minutes are being decremented.
BinkXDA said:
Nope. Not sure what’s going on—unless somehow your T-Mobile number is involved. Hangouts simply uses data so I’m uncertain why your minutes are being decremented.
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I even tried putting it in airplane mode and turning wifi on and it wouldn't connect. Can you do that and it works?
seagood3 said:
I even tried putting it in airplane mode and turning wifi on and it wouldn't connect. Can you do that and it works?
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Weird. I don’t have cell service in my basement, but do have Wi-Fi there, and I have zero issues making calls from Hangouts.
Is there a way to purchase this plan before going to the US? I'm planning a trip and will need this as soon as I arrive.
Thanks in advance!
ps: I already have a gv #, everytime I travel to the us I have to go to a mall, explain that I need a short term plan, get the sim chip, wait for it to work, call t-mobile complaining that I've run out too quickly... lol
seagood3 said:
I have been making calls through the hangout dialer and have confirmed that the call is going out as my Google Voice number. The problem is that it still uses minutes. I just got off the chat with a rep at T-Mobile and she confirmed that on the $30 T-Mobile plan VOIP and wifi calling still use minutes.
Is there any way around this?
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The only way this would be happening is if you're not really using the hangouts dialer, but using the Google voice app which integrates with the regular dialer on the phone. In that case it will use minutes, because you're using the regular dialer (ie minutes) where calls are being routed through to Google voice.... not the same as using the hangouts dialer directly.
seagood3 said:
I have been making calls through the hangout dialer and have confirmed that the call is going out as my Google Voice number. The problem is that it still uses minutes. I just got off the chat with a rep at T-Mobile and she confirmed that on the $30 T-Mobile plan VOIP and wifi calling still use minutes.
Is there any way around this?
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If you use Hangouts to dial phone numbers, it should not use your minutes. I had this $30 T-Mo plan for a while now and been using it with the 5GB just fine.
One way to check is using the Android Phone Dialer app (NOT Hangout dialer) and dial...
1. Check for minutes: dial #646# (#MIN#) then hit the talk button
2. Check for data usage: dial #932# (#WEB#)
You should see your data usage going up and talk minutes should remain low.
I would make sure hangouts and voice are updated and that you have hangouts dialer installed. Make sure that under settings in hangouts is showing your gvoice number and if you open voice that it let's you know that hangouts had taken over. Use the dialer to make a call that will be easy for you to see the caller ID. Your gvoice number should show up.
i dont have GV....
i do have Tmo $30... i love i can call everyone now over LTE since now calling my parents once wont kill my 100 minutes....BUT, people i call see "UNKNOWN" on their caller ID when i called via Hangouts... thats the only thing that sucks for me because most of people wont answer those types of calls, i have to text them before calling saying to expect it.
wish there was a way to set a ANI number on hangouts to show my number
I recently purchased a Moto X Pure Edition and am trying to use my old gophone sim (previously in a feature flip-phone) in it. I have tested and confirmed that it works correctly on T-mobile, however when I put my gophone sim in it, it shows service for 30-60 seconds and then goes to "No Service" which I know is not true. It is also worth noting that I can't turn on cellular data. As soon as I do it turns itself off.
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My gophone plan is the 10c/min, no data plan.
This was originally a full size sim which I cut down to nano size. I have put it back in my old feature phone with an adapter and confirmed that it still works.
I have tried a dozen different APN settings, including copying the APN settings from a friend's Moto G that has the same plan, with the same result.
For the short period that I do have service, it usually works correctly. I still can't turn on mobile data, but I can make and receive calls as well as send and receive non-MMS text messages (MSS requires mobile data). Sometimes attempting to text/call seems to trigger me losing service, but that might be a coincidence.
I'm currently on rooted stock 5.0 lollipop with an unlocked bootloader.
Any ideas how can fix this?
I am going to try using my friends gophone sim and see if that works. I will update with the results of that.
Att contracts require data plan for smartphones. Maybe related. Call them and ask.
As I mentioned, my friend has a Moto G with the same plan. I did call and they suggested I get a new SIM. I'm going to do that, but I'm doubtful of the result
I purchased my unlocked Note8 phone from Samsung and I am on the Verizon network using StraightTalk as my provider. There is no voice message icon or notification. Is there a workaround or a voice message app that I should install?
Thank you.
Try youmail. I used it on my note 4 because I wanted visual voicemail. I use straight talk too but AT&T sim.
I'm on Straighttalk as well and always use Google Voice, works well for me...
seraphg said:
I'm on Straighttalk as well and always use Google Voice, works well for me...
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You AT&T or VZW? Just curious as to whether it would be beneficial for me to flash att carrier stuff. I want VOLTE and wifi calling but I see few if any posts about straight talk and how or if its possible
So I am in a complicated situation.
Background: S10 5G from Verizon was refusing to SIM unlock, so I flashed ATT firmware on the phone and it accepted the SIM. However, I can either have 4G (HSPA) and be able to make and receive calls OR 4G LTE and no calls at all. (Also I am stuck on ATT firmware for now, so I can't flash back to VZW)
Jumping Forward: I discovered that using the Hangouts Dialer to make and receive calls DOES work while on 4G LTE.
The Question: What the hell is going on? Why do the regular dialers not work, but Hangouts does? What does it do differently?
And as a PS: I didn't have to do any of this for my S10+, just popped the Google Fi SIM in and all was good. Just this damn SIM locked S10 5G is trouble.
Mods, this can be closed. Hangouts is being closed this year so my workaround won't last. I ended up using a paid service to resolve the issue
Thread closed as per request of OP