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Hi guys .. just got the Optimus 2x review unit.
I have it for about 2 weeks to try.
You guys got any questions about the device ? anything you want to know ? Will try to answer
Status LED
Oh Great!
yeah, here's the first one:
I saw on different pictures just left to the upper speaker several... let's say "spots".. in the display. I suppose one is for the brightness regulation and the others? For what they are? Would be amazing if one of these spots is a Status LED! Could you come up with this info?
thanks!
PS: h t t p://presse.lge.de/riot-utils/download/media/3/87566576697678/lg_optimus_speed_2.jpg Here you'll see what I mean.
probably proximity senzor, I dont think it has led indicator.
test battery life with sync and all apps and backround services,debugging etc off.
tet standby over a night with 3g and 2g.
then test heavy sufing with opera mini and standard browser on lowest and hight brightness
Yeah battery is important.
real life performance
Hi
I would be interested to know how smooth the optimus 2x would be after one day of usage and without using an application killer.
from my experience with the Galaxy S, the phone is quite smooth at boot time, but after sometime of usage where you would open and exit apps, the phone would get really laggy and even unusable to the extent that you have to reboot. People resort to using task killers to improve the phone performance which negates the purpose behind the android OS as it is designed to run at the same speed irrespective of whether you have 200 mb of free ram or 40 mb of free ram
So is this same with the optimus 2X or is the smooth experience persistent
Thanks
sadly .. its only the proximity sensor and nothing else .. digged into the menus and could not find anything about notification led
RADLOUNI said:
Hi
I would be interested to know how smooth the optimus 2x would be after one day of usage and without using an application killer.
from my experience with the Galaxy S, the phone is quite smooth at boot time, but after sometime of usage where you would open and exit apps, the phone would get really laggy and even unusable to the extent that you have to reboot. People resort to using task killers to improve the phone performance which negates the purpose behind the android OS as it is designed to run at the same speed irrespective of whether you have 200 mb of free ram or 40 mb of free ram
So is this same with the optimus 2X or is the smooth experience persistent
Thanks
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It's fault of Froyo not the Phone i think. There is multi task but no chance to close apps. With gingerbread update it will be better i think.
BATTERY ?
Does it play divx/xvid/mkv out of the box? and in 1080p?
If not, does any market app like vplayer or rockplayer solve it?
could you tell me if the LG flavour of Android includes the original News and weather widget?
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It's fault of Froyo not the Phone i think. There is multi task but no chance to close apps. With gingerbread update it will be better i think.
BATTERY ?
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Lag is a software problem not a hardware problem. The question is whether its a problem pertinent to the Android system itself or the vendor specific add-ons (bloatware) that each vendor adds (Touchwiz, htc sense, etc)
Gooler said:
Does it play divx/xvid/mkv out of the box? and in 1080p?
If not, does any market app like vplayer or rockplayer solve it?
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I know for sure that it play divX, but the others i don't know.
Is this a usa version? If so...what carrier?
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RADLOUNI said:
Hi
I would be interested to know how smooth the optimus 2x would be after one day of usage and without using an application killer.
from my experience with the Galaxy S, the phone is quite smooth at boot time, but after sometime of usage where you would open and exit apps, the phone would get really laggy and even unusable to the extent that you have to reboot. People resort to using task killers to improve the phone performance which negates the purpose behind the android OS as it is designed to run at the same speed irrespective of whether you have 200 mb of free ram or 40 mb of free ram
So is this same with the optimus 2X or is the smooth experience persistent
Thanks
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I picked the phone up about a week ago.. Here's what I can tell you about the performance over time.
Immediately after a reboot it runs like a dreams.. even after a couple days its fine. I ended up having to reboot today because it was starting to get pretty laggy. But like rouvax said, i believe thats an OS problem, not a phone problem.
rouvax said:
It's fault of Froyo not the Phone i think. There is multi task but no chance to close apps. With gingerbread update it will be better i think.
BATTERY ?
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The phone comes with an app called CarHome (one of google's apps i believe), which after looking at the battery usage is an energy hog. After killing that, and some of the other bloatware that comes on it, the phone will last me a day or so of light usage with wifi constantly on. Playing a lot of games will obviously drain the battery, down to about 8-10 hrs from what i've noticed, I haven't tested it extensively for exact numbers
Did u have information about the sar value? It's usually add to the box..
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dan_11 said:
Did u have information about the sar value? It's usually add to the box..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932602
Hi!
One thing that would be nice to is if there is a widget to enable/disable mobile data connection.
What I mean is the widget "mobile" that (mostly?) HTC devices have.
Maybe the 2X/Speed has one under "LG Widgets".
Here are some screenshots of what I mean:
HTC Tattoo:
http ://htc.com/uploadedImages/Common/HowTo/HTC_Tattoo/S_Mobile_Network_Widget.png
HTC Desire HD:
http ://htc.com/de/howtoimage.aspx?id=13318
I am sorry to mess up the links, but I am not yet allowed to post external links...
Thank you!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932602
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I know about this. Thx but i am trying to find out the EU version .. if he got it maybe he can help me(us)
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Hi,
Does the 2x support USB OTG or USB host, i.e. is it possible to access an external USB storage? Would be great to stream media from an external hard drive via DLNA or HDMI. A micro-SD card is too small for a feature-length 1080p movie.
Thanks
- Does it have a good and loud speaker function so it can be used in a car (as navigation)?
- Can de LG launcher be disabled in favor of the stock android launcher?
I am very disappointed with this device. Since I bought this phone always had problems.
Starting from overheating when I'm playing something.
Then the side of the device begins to peel.
Then mold spots appear on the screen.
Then this whole bootloader, rom buggy, etc.
If this device was really good, I do not feel the need to change rom and make the machine go through so many updates. The handset comes with manufacturing a critical bug in the camera. Among other problems. Now I finally got my braces bad time. If I can not fix it I have to leave for Samsung.
I'm no novice user. I've had three devices of Lg.
Lg Optimus One Phone = Bug Phone.
Lg Optimus 2x = Bug Phone.
And now the Lg Optimus 4x = Hd Bug Phone.
I am seriously evaluating getting a Samsung Galaxy Note 2. Visit the forum of this device in Xda. Hardly find complaints about it.
Lg P880 I bought this because it is cheaper, but now I find that cheap actually ends up costing too high.
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Mold spots? If that's true you can't really blame the phone 'cause moisture = mold.
Also, try playing games on any phone and it will get hot. This goes for literally any device on the planet.
Yes, it i was like to say.
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archie87 said:
Mold spots? If that's true you can't really blame the phone 'cause moisture = mold.
Also, try playing games on any phone and it will get hot. This goes for literally any device on the planet.
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But it isnt normal. The phone heats too much!
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Peeeling chrome.
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Yep same here the "quad core+1" tegra 3 "blazing fast" cpu is one real bad cpu to start with, it sucks for real tasks and overheats for that matter. the screen isn't like the other hd ips screens it has a yellow temperature tint unlike the others the blues look desaturated the most out of all the colors and it feels cheaply made.
xavierleonelbr said:
But it isnt normal. The phone heats too much!
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please define your "overheating"
overheating is when your device powers off, due to 90°C processor temperature...
the tegra 3 default throttle temp is 85°C, LG's is 71°C... i changed the value in my custom kernel to 80°C, so we can get a better performance also with high temps...
and have you ever been thinking what's working in your device? you've got 4 CPU cores and 1 GPU core... now think of a normal PC, what does a normal PC have, what a phone doesn't? right, a fan. or cooling in general. so the higher temps are completely normal...
laufersteppenwolf said:
please define your "overheating"
overheating is when your device powers off, due to 90°C processor temperature...
the tegra 3 default throttle temp is 85°C, LG's is 71°C... i changed the value in my custom kernel to 80°C, so we can get a better performance also with high temps...
and have you ever been thinking what's working in your device? you've got 4 CPU cores and 1 GPU core... now think of a normal PC, what does a normal PC have, what a phone doesn't? right, a fan. or cooling in general. so the higher temps are completely normal...
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Yes, but it burn my fingers!
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xavierleonelbr said:
Yes, but it burn my fingers!
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that's impossible... the phone shuts itself down before that...
Somewhere is problem. I have same phone, only problem is with the bubbles under screen but chrome line still like new, no overheating (max temp about 50° when playing games) and the screen for me much better then samoled (yes, i have s3 and change it - hate design and display absolutly unreadable outside).
And stock rom? Buggy? I havent any stopped aplication since i have this phone, lg launcher is really good.
For me, only bad is camera and sound output with stock player (so im using poweramp )
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S.M-A-RT said:
Somewhere is problem. I have same phone, only problem is with the bubbles under screen but chrome line still like new, no overheating (max temp about 50° when playing games) and the screen for me much better then samoled (yes, i have s3 and change it - hate design and display absolutly unreadable outside).
And stock rom? Buggy? I havent any stopped aplication since i have this phone, lg launcher is really good.
For me, only bad is camera and sound output with stock player (so im using poweramp )
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i've got these bubbles, too... but i don't care
but be careful with the temp, the temp you see is the battery temp, not the processor temp
Meh, another complaining thread.. Personally, I don't even care about and i predict i'm not alone with that.
If u don't like the phone, just sell it, what's the problem?
And i don't see any overheating problems, what are You launching, Crysis from PC?
I think this is the best phone for this price.many phones is the same like ours but cost too much.desighn is verry cool,we dont have many roms and kernels because we just unlocked ours bootloaders and i think we have to wait little more for more stuf.
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Play your games in the fridge! All quad cores get hot! The Samsung amoled screens are horrible! I fancy an s3 because I am a mobile gamer, but if kholks new kernel can give me the performance I was expecting then no way! Everything else about this phone is so much better than Samsung!
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If you have any problems like bubbles under the screen or excessive-myfingersareburning-overheating you should probably use your warranty and get this device checked by authorized personel. Personally, I had none of these problems you mentioned. Phone is rooted, bootloader is unlocked, CyanogenMod is happily running "under the hood". Stock ROM was pretty good for me, but CM is CM. You can't say 'no' to CM. If you don't like this phone, then sell it. Note 2 is indeed a powerful device, I'm sure that you'll be happy with it. But! This phone has yet to show its true power through custom ROMs and kernels. My old 2010 flagship - HTC Desire - got ROM with JB and Touchwiz5 powered by awesome custom kernel, so I really have no doubts that our O4X, which is 10 times stronger than Desire, will get some sick modifications sooner or later (starting with EternityProject kernel and CM 10.1). Cheers! :highfive:
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Meh, another complaining thread.. Personally, I don't even care about and i predict i'm not alone with that.
If u don't like the phone, just sell it, what's the problem?
And i don't see any overheating problems, what are You launching, Crysis from PC?
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yeah another one i think we been through a lot right reas0n
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I can't speak much of comparing the 4X to other phones as my last phone was some crappy chinese knock-off of a htc sensation. But my 4X is built very well (id like to see what you guys mention as 'bubbles' under your screen, was it like that since you brought it?) the phone does get ridiculously hot (you might have seen my thread about my screen suffering major distortion for a few hours, due to overheating while on ac charge ), but again well within tegra 3 specs (this this is stock clocked at 1.5ghz which is 200mhz higher than my tf300t tablet which has much more room to dissipate heat)
Im in love with the design of the phone, only issue i have is i feel the back button is on the wrong side but i use LMT launcher anyway(if you don't know what it is i suggest you look it up). The stock firmware was fine(no issues) other than feeling bloated, stock jellybean was slightly smoother and a bit lighter, CM10.1 is absolutely amazing and in my opinion increases the value of the phone drastically.
Just my take on it.....
laufersteppenwolf said:
i've got these bubbles, too... but i don't care
but be careful with the temp, the temp you see is the battery temp, not the processor temp
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I know, I look at temperature shown in hidden menu > cpu usage.
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My last phone was a One X and this is on a par at least with that, except in gaming until I at least hope custom kernels will change that.
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JoinTheRealms said:
I can't speak much of comparing the 4X to other phones as my last phone was some crappy chinese knock-off of a htc sensation. But my 4X is built very well (id like to see what you guys mention as 'bubbles' under your screen, was it like that since you brought it?) the phone does get ridiculously hot (you might have seen my thread about my screen suffering major distortion for a few hours, due to overheating while on ac charge ), but again well within tegra 3 specs (this this is stock clocked at 1.5ghz which is 200mhz higher than my tf300t tablet which has much more room to dissipate heat)
Im in love with the design of the phone, only issue i have is i feel the back button is on the wrong side but i use LMT launcher anyway(if you don't know what it is i suggest you look it up). The stock firmware was fine(no issues) other than feeling bloated, stock jellybean was slightly smoother and a bit lighter, CM10.1 is absolutely amazing and in my opinion increases the value of the phone drastically.
Just my take on it.....
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the bubbles are like a user posted in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2246826
hi guys, I would like to buy this phone but camera really scares me.. I read some reviews and saw some pictures pretty bad (with a lot of light a lot of white for example).. are images really that bad? other phone I would like to but is the xperia T with better camera, but cm10.1 development is better for the LG I think so I am really undecided.. :crying:
and what about pictures in cm10.1, are much worse than in stock jb? (I see someone ported the stock camera in cm, that's why i am asking..)
also, there is no notification led on this phone right?
thanks in advance bye!
moly82 said:
hi guys, I would like to buy this phone but camera really scares me.. I read some reviews and saw some pictures pretty bad (with a lot of light a lot of white for example).. are images really that bad? other phone I would like to but is the xperia T with better camera, but cm10.1 development is better for the LG I think so I am really undecided.. :crying:
and what about pictures in cm10.1, are much worse than in stock jb? (I see someone ported the stock camera in cm, that's why i am asking..)
also, there is no notification led on this phone right?
thanks in advance bye!
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The camera is the same on stock LG or on cm10.1 there are maybe different processes after having taking the picture but there is not a lot of difference.
However IMO, the camera is not that bad, I do not take photos as a professional but for me the photos are great.
You can see some pictures taken with the LG Optimus 4X HD in this subject : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866677
I find them pretty good but once again I do not take many photos so i can't really judge.
Anyway the Xperia T is not as powerful as the O4X in term of performance and its screen is smaller
And there's no notification LED on the O4X but there's an app which manage to use the light of the hardware keys as notification led. That's not really clear but tell me if you did not understand
Here is the link for this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821249
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ectoplasma22 said:
The camera is the same on stock LG or on cm10.1 there are maybe different processes after having taking the picture but there is not a lot of difference.
However IMO, the camera is not that bad, I do not take photos as a professional but for me the photos are great.
You can see some pictures taken with the LG Optimus 4X HD in this subject : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866677
I find them pretty good but once again I do not take many photos so i can't really judge.
Anyway the Xperia T is not as powerful as the O4X in term of performance and its screen is smaller
And there's no notification LED on the O4X but there's an app which manage to use the light of the hardware keys as notification led. That's not really clear but tell me if you did not understand
Here is the link for this app : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821249
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thanks a lot for the reply!
yes I saw that link, images seems pretty good, but on some websites I saw pretty bad pictures.. well btw I don't make so many pictures actually, so if quality is average I think I could live with the LG camera
about the screen yes I read everywhere it is better on the LG, as per the power I know LG has quad core so seems better, but I heard for gaming for example it is not so good as there are no so many videogames optimized for the tegra platform.. so xperia T should work even better than the LG with the most of the games.. btw I am not a heavy gamer so the performance should be enough for me
thanks for the hardware keys light mod, didnt' see that and it would be perfect if it works on cm10.1 also!
last important thing is the battery, I read some (pretty old) reviews where they said phone get hot soon and battery drains a lot in that condition, but I think with new firmwares/kernel situation is improved right?!
thanks a gain for your help!
moly82 said:
thanks a lot for the reply!
yes I saw that link, images seems pretty good, but on some websites I saw pretty bad pictures.. well btw I don't make so many pictures actually, so if quality is average I think I could live with the LG camera
about the screen yes I read everywhere it is better on the LG, as per the power I know LG has quad core so seems better, but I heard for gaming for example it is not so good as there are no so many videogames optimized for the tegra platform.. so xperia T should work even better than the LG with the most of the games.. btw I am not a heavy gamer so the performance should be enough for me
thanks for the hardware keys light mod, didnt' see that and it would be perfect if it works on cm10.1 also!
last important thing is the battery, I read some (pretty old) reviews where they said phone get hot soon and battery drains a lot in that condition, but I think with new firmwares/kernel situation is improved right?!
thanks a gain for your help!
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Always happy if I can help :thumbup:
The battery life has been improved a lot with the customs roms like cm10.1 and the different kernels we have now (like Iodak, Werewolf, Optimus Prime or EPRJ). So thanks to the dev the battery like is no more a problem (at least for me).
Honestly, I can play my favourite games smoothly, I play Fifa 12, Virtua tennis and some other casual games and they are absolutely lagfree.
I do not play real heavy games but I read that with some combination of kernel and rom, you can play every games smoothly on this phone
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ectoplasma22 said:
Always happy if I can help :thumbup:
The battery life has been improved a lot with the customs roms like cm10.1 and the different kernels we have now (like Iodak, Werewolf, Optimus Prime or EPRJ). So thanks to the dev the battery like is no more a problem (at least for me).
Honestly, I can play my favourite games smoothly, I play Fifa 12, Virtua tennis and some other casual games and they are absolutely lagfree.
I do not play real heavy games but I read that with some combination of kernel and rom, you can play every games smoothly on this phone
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thanks again! you are really convincing me in buying this phone!
last thing (for now ) can you confirm panorama works perfectly in both stock JB and cm10.1?
I read a review where they said panorama was not always working fine because of focus problems..??!! I really like/need panorama feature so I would like to have it perfectly stable
also I see there is no video video stabilization in camera (video recording).. but are videos good enough?
byeeeeee
moly82 said:
thanks again! you are really convincing me in buying this phone!
last thing (for now ) can you confirm panorama works perfectly in both stock JB and cm10.1?
I read a review where they said panorama was not always working fine because of focus problems..??!! I really like/need panorama feature so I would like to have it perfectly stable
also I see there is no video video stabilization in camera (video recording).. but are videos good enough?
byeeeeee
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Haha this phone is really good but I do not want to influence you too much
For me, the panorama works perfectly, there are sometimes default on the picture but the most of the time the panorama do his work as it should
We also have a port of the Nexus 4's camera so Photosphere is available on this device.
The videos are good, it's true that the stabilization is not perfect but the videos are good enough for my taste.
Just to remind you that I'm absolutely not a professional so i can't really judge the camera since I never use a real camera.
Anyway for a normal use and with cm10.1 the camera should be good enough even if it's not the best part of the O4X
Hope that helped you
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One more word on the camera: My wife has a Samsung Galaxy Ace 2, which makes not that excellent pictures (quite a little blurry even under optimal conditions). When she took a look at the pics my O4X made, I had trouble getting it back Sure you cannot compare them with a DSLR -- but for the "Amateur", they are pretty good.
thanks guys for all the replies, I am really close to the purchase I found the phone here in Italy at about 270 Euro and I think is a very good price so I am about to buy it I am pretty sure I will miss the xperia T camera but some other things make me prefer the LG to the sony: for example it has re-lockable bootloader if I well understood, no need to cut my sim, removable battery, more powerful, better screen, better cm10.1 port than the xperia T (afaik the xperia T have reboot problems with cm10.1, so I think LG cm10.1 is better ) etc
just have one final doubt hope you can help
is there somebody of you that always or most of the time stays on 2g and just in case of need switch to 3g and then again go back to 2g?
I need to know if 2g data connection is stable, as I much prefer to always stay with 2g to save battery.. (one of the reasons why I want to change my phone is that with my motorola I must stay always in 3g to have a stable connection, in fact as soon as I switch to 2g I have many disconnections or no connection at all.. so if I change the phone spend money and then have the same problem I could kill myself :laugh: )
can you confirm 2g connection is stable on O4X? if yes, with both stock JB and cm10.1?
thanks a lot guys!
moly82 said:
thanks guys for all the replies, I am really close to the purchase I found the phone here in Italy at about 270 Euro and I think is a very good price so I am about to buy it I am pretty sure I will miss the xperia T camera but some other things make me prefer the LG to the sony: for example it has re-lockable bootloader if I well understood, no need to cut my sim, removable battery, more powerful, better screen, better cm10.1 port than the xperia T (afaik the xperia T have reboot problems with cm10.1, so I think LG cm10.1 is better ) etc
just have one final doubt hope you can help
is there somebody of you that always or most of the time stays on 2g and just in case of need switch to 3g and then again go back to 2g?
I need to know if 2g data connection is stable, as I much prefer to always stay with 2g to save battery.. (one of the reasons why I want to change my phone is that with my motorola I must stay always in 3g to have a stable connection, in fact as soon as I switch to 2g I have many disconnections or no connection at all.. so if I change the phone spend money and then have the same problem I could kill myself :laugh: )
can you confirm 2g connection is stable on O4X? if yes, with both stock JB and cm10.1?
thanks a lot guys!
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bootloader is semi-lockable. it's info is stored in fuse file, which has 16 or so chances of lock & relock. but for each lock & relock, you have different value of the file, so you can easily see how many times it has been locked/relocked.
as for 2g, i'm using 3g half a month and 2g the other half - i have 250mb of internet at 3g speeds in my prepaid plan, and after i use that up, which is usually aroudn 15th - 20th in the month, i switch to 2g. using CM based roms & kernels nowadays, and i dont have any problems with it. :good:
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bootloader is semi-lockable. it's info is stored in fuse file, which has 16 or so chances of lock & relock. but for each lock & relock, you have different value of the file, so you can easily see how many times it has been locked/relocked.
as for 2g, i'm using 3g half a month and 2g the other half - i have 250mb of internet at 3g speeds in my prepaid plan, and after i use that up, which is usually aroudn 15th - 20th in the month, i switch to 2g. using CM based roms & kernels nowadays, and i dont have any problems with it. :good:
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thanks my friend, you are great!
unless something big will happen, we will probably meet again in cm10.1 and others thread here in this phone subforum
moly82 said:
thanks my friend, you are great!
unless something big will happen, we will probably meet again in cm10.1 and others thread here in this phone subforum
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no problem, glad i could help. i hope you're as happy with your future phone as i am with mine :highfive:
guys, I read many threads in this subforum about this phone to see in advance what I will need to do when I get it, and it is not clear to me one thing: is it true that some O4X models can not be unlocked? So if I buy it I should check if I get a "good" one or not? :silly:
(I saw some posts about EUR-xxx etc)
tx!
This was before now I'm almost sure that every O4X can be unlocked
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ectoplasma22 said:
This was before now I'm almost sure that every O4X can be unlocked
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thanks mate you are great! I saw many threads with unlocking procedures but did not see that one sorry!
I was convinced by many threads on this forum to buy this phone, people says, battery life is OK, phone is smooth, camera is OK, then I bought this phone and that was the biggest mistake I did. To clarify:
1. Camera: pictures are not bad but when you want to record a video in a noisy place distortion is all the time, my previous Moto RAZR xt910 recorded video 10x better.
2. Battery life: I tried every combination ROM/Kernel and when I was unplugged my phone at 6:00Am after 12 hours battery was dead. This phone barely lasts 2 hours screen on time. So battery life is worst then every smartphone I had (check signature).
3. Sat Nav. I coudn't use this phone as a SatNav in a car because when you driving and screen is ON car charger can't charge this phone because it's discharging too fast. Result? After few hours the phone is dead unless you turn the screen off and wait for car charger charge the battery.
4. Dust under screen: I was use this phone in usual way, hold in my front jeans pocket, after 2 - 3 monts a big piece of dust poped out in a centre of screen, you can see it on a second picture on my ebay auction:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330939115679?ssPageName=STRK:MESOX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1559.l2649
Now I rather buy Xperia T then this piece of crap.
That's my opinion, I try to save you cause I regret nobody did it for me.
(sorry for my English, it's not my mother tongue)
wow that's bad.. you are changing my mind.. i would use a lot the phone as sat nav and if the battery drain is higher than the car charger charge that would be a big problem for me.. someone else can confirm that?
my present phone (defy+) connected to the car charger while using Google maps navigator and also play music at the same time doesn't discharge, but get charged! (very slowly of course but still it get charged..)
lukas77: excuse me Sir but what make you think that things with xperia T will be different?
tx btw for your opinion
moly82 said:
wow that's bad.. you are changing my mind.. i would use a lot the phone as sat nav and if the battery drain is higher than the car charger charge that would be a big problem for me.. someone else can confirm that?
my present phone (defy+) connected to the car charger while using Google maps navigator and also play music at the same time doesn't discharge, but get charged! (very slowly of course but still it get charged..)
lukas77: excuse me Sir but what make you think that things with xperia T will be different?
tx btw for your opinion
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if you hit a certain temperature treshold, your cell phone goes into "slow charging" mode, which can lead to battery being discharged even while plugged in. to bypass this, you can enable "unlimited charging" in secret menu that you access by typing a code. this way, you won't lose battery no matter what you do, as long as your phone is being charged. keep in mind that this may make phone a lot hotter than usual.
as for his battery problems, he must've had baseband_xmm bug. the phone lasts around 3 hours onscreen time for me (and truth to be told, i am not happy with that, so i plan on getting another battery. however, i've seen people push 5 hours onscreen time, probably with brightness set veryx low), and uses 0.5% per hour on standby with wifi and data off. you do the math how long it can stay in standby, if managed properly.
out of the box the phone might not perform the way you want it; finding kernel & rom combination that works takes some trial & error.
a big bug myself and some other people have, is that gps somehow loses signal with headphones plugged in, and it seems people with both stock and us with custom roms experience this bug. this might understandibly be a dealbreaker for some, so it's better to let you know beforehand.
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if you hit a certain temperature treshold, your cell phone goes into "slow charging" mode, which can lead to battery being discharged even while plugged in. to bypass this, you can enable "unlimited charging" in secret menu that you access by typing a code. this way, you won't lose battery no matter what you do, as long as your phone is being charged. keep in mind that this may make phone a lot hotter than usual.
as for his battery problems, he must've had baseband_xmm bug. the phone lasts around 3 hours onscreen time for me (and truth to be told, i am not happy with that, so i plan on getting another battery. however, i've seen people push 5 hours onscreen time, probably with brightness set veryx low), and uses 0.5% per hour on standby with wifi and data off. you do the math how long it can stay in standby, if managed properly.
out of the box the phone might not perform the way you want it; finding kernel & rom combination that works takes some trial & error.
a big bug myself and some other people have, is that gps somehow loses signal with headphones plugged in, and it seems people with both stock and us with custom roms experience this bug. this might understandibly be a dealbreaker for some, so it's better to let you know beforehand.
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thanks a lot my friend, exact, helpful and clear as always
yes that gps bug would be a big bug for me actually, thanks for letting me know! (i often use gps navigation while phone is connected to the car stereo through headphones to listen to some music so gps malfunctioning would be really a big problem for me!)
strange i did read a lot around about this phone and have never reed anything about that.. thanks again!
well my other choice would be the xperia T but that suffers the reboot bug in cm10.1 and that also is a big bug for me.. really don't know what to do now..
bye and thanks all and good night maybe sleep will take some advice's..
Try using CM Stable with iodak v6 kernel. In my case it gave better battery life and much better performance than any other combination.
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hi guys, sorry for posting again here but i would prefer not to open a new thread.. but if mods want me to do so I will do that!
I have one "final" question about this phone.. :laugh: will all the p880's be bootloader unlockable without exceptions? or if I buy it I should worry about that at the purchase and choose a particular model etc?
(I am asking this because for example for the Xperia T they say that if I get a no-brand one it can be easily unloacked, while if I get a branded one I can't unlock the bootloader at all..! is the same for the LG?)
thanks in advance bye!
Does the Xperia SP handle most highend- games directly out of the box?
Or it requires some rooting, flashing etc.
I'm going to buy the phone soon..
Any recommendations accepted too..
4.3 [207/205] have ram problems. It fc most games. But in custom roms everything seems be okay. Recently I flashed mokee[4.4.4, ubl] and everything is perfect[battery lasts as good as 4.3 or even better, perfomance much better....]. If you want to stay with stock or stock based rom I didn't suggest you to buy xperia SP.
cabba403 said:
Does the Xperia SP handle most highend- games directly out of the box?
Or it requires some rooting, flashing etc.
I'm going to buy the phone soon..
Any recommendations accepted too..
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Well, let me put it like that. Our phone has about 60-65% of the GPU power the latest phones (The one with Adreno 330), our GPU has to render exactly half the pixels cause we have 720p display compare to 1080p. And that's indeed the case. In benchmarks Xperia SP has the same fps (frames per second) as HTC One M8, Xperia Z2, etc. ±10%
So, yes.
I myself am playing Asphalt 8, Dungeon Hunter 4, Dead Trigger 2 on highest setting with smooth gameplay and zero lag.
When it comes to "Stock vs custom ROM/kernel" performance, I'd say that there is significant no difference. Custom kernels give you a little bit CPU boost, but that doesn't really affects games, while custom ROMs's performance isn't as good as the stock one, since Sony didn't provide us with the source and we have to use hacks, in order to be able to run 4.4+.
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Klaudas said:
4.3 [207/205] have ram problems. It fc most games. But in custom roms everything seems be okay. Recently I flashed mokee[4.4.4, ubl] and everything is perfect[battery lasts as good as 4.3 or even better, perfomance much better....]. If you want to stay with stock or stock based rom I didn't suggest you to buy xperia SP.
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The problem is on your end. I was with stock ROM for over a month before switching to Custom ROM and I had no issues what so ever. Please don't spread false information.
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Well, let me put it like that. Our phone has about 60-65% of the GPU power the latest phones (The one with Adreno 330), our GPU has to render exactly half the pixels cause we have 720p display compare to 1080p. And that's indeed the case. In benchmarks Xperia SP has the same fps (frames per second) as HTC One M8, Xperia Z2, etc. ±10%
So, yes.
I myself am playing Asphalt 8, Dungeon Hunter 4, Dead Trigger 2 on highest setting with smooth gameplay and zero lag.
When it comes to "Stock vs custom ROM/kernel" performance, I'd say that there is significant no difference. Custom kernels give you a little bit CPU boost, but that doesn't really affects games, while custom ROMs's performance isn't as good as the stock one, since Sony didn't provide us with the source and we have to use hacks, in order to be able to run 4.4+.
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Yes, you can play most high end games but stock rom ram managment are sh*t. After 24h~ usage free ram left 220-150mb most~. I tried "play" with ram manager but It didn't help.
Klaudas said:
Yes, you can play most high end games but stock rom ram managment are sh*t. After 24h~ usage free ram left 220-150mb most~. I tried "play" with ram manager but It didn't help.
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Just because you don't know how to operate with your phone, that doesn't mean that the phone/ROM is bad. Even with stock ROM I had 250~300MB of free RAM with SwiftKey, NovaLauncher, WidgetLocker, Viber, WhatsApp, few xposed modules, etc.
As I said, the problem is/was on your end...
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Just because you don't know how to operate with your phone, that doesn't mean that the phone/ROM is bad. Even with stock ROM I had 250~300MB of free RAM with SwiftKey, NovaLauncher, WidgetLocker, Viber, WhatsApp, few xposed modules, etc.
As I said, the problem is/was on your end...
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Can you make few SS for me after 24h[ofcourse no reboots]?. If you have more than 10-15 apps installed like me you won't get that amount of ram left after 24h~. No way.
as if certain user experiences would be a lie.
So does it worth the buy or any recommendations?
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So does it worth the buy or any recommendations?
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With stock rom you won't be able to play high end games without reboots for free ram. If you have time for flashing custom roms everything fine! But if you want to stay with stock I suggest you to buy LG L90 for example.
I wouldnt buy this phone in your place (I wish I hadn't bought it for myself too)
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So does it worth the buy or any recommendations?
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In it's price range it's the best phone specs wise.
Moto G is a worth buy as well, but it has Adreno 305 which is about twice as slow as our Adreno 320. If you like gaming Xperia SP is the best buy, however it reached it's EOL so you must rely on custom ROMs for further software updates. While Moto G will receive Android L for sure, and I'm pretty sure Motorola will keep maintaining it at less till the end of 2015 since the new Moto G 2014 is pretty similar to the Moto G 2013. But still Moto G's LTE model with SD Card cost more, so you must put this in consideration as well. Going with either phone, you will be pretty pleased. But if I had to buy a new phone now and I had ~150€ to spend I will definitely go with Xperia SP.
P.S.: I have both phones.
Thanks , for your information.
I'm sure to consider the Xperia SP.
Do you mind , if i ask you about the camera of this phone?
cabba403 said:
Thanks , for your information.
I'm sure to consider the Xperia SP.
Do you mind , if i ask you about the camera of this phone?
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Rear camera is quite decent. Here are few threads with shots from it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-sp/themes-apps/post-photo-xperia-sp-t2823275
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2304148
check it
cabba403 said:
Thanks , for your information.
I'm sure to consider the Xperia SP.
Do you mind , if i ask you about the camera of this phone?
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this is phone is supposedly great but, as other user mention, the RAM is lacking so it makes it lagging. Sure some games run fine. but try playing real racing 3 with no modifications. it'll burn your battery (doesn't literally burn it, i just mean really hot) and it often lags.
camera wise, it depends on preference. for me this camera sometimes get awesome results outdoor, but it has same problem with many xperia phone. lots of noise if u zoom.
if u have time, read my 1 year review http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2778795
The SP's gaming performance is pretty decent - and great for the price. If you're looking to get some idea of what 2D and 3D GPU performance is when choosing a new phone, searching for Antutu benchmarks isn't a bad place to start.
As for the camera, passable outdoors (but noisy), worthless indoors. Mine has even started taking out of focus pictures, even after half pressing camera button to focus first. Might be something to do with the len's protective film being removed (due to scratches)
The issue i have now is that it easily heats up when playing 3d games. Think before buying if you're a gamer.
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carlfinity said:
The issue i have now is that it easily heats up when playing 3d games. Think before buying if you're a gamer.
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Well I found out all devices I've ever used, my friends, my father's are all prone to heat up when playing high end games. This should not be the problem. As far as my inspection on my XSP, it won't get over the 41 degree Celsius barrier. However, I don't know about others though.
Now for some small hardware lecture. Ahem.
3D Games require more power
More power means the processor will step up its clock rate
Higher clock rate means higher power
Processors emits heat upon high power usage
Thus the heat you get.
Ambient temperature can make it worse too, so don't ever do gaming in a hot environment
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Well I found out all devices I've ever used, my friends, my father's are all prone to heat up when playing high end games. This should not be the problem. As far as my inspection on my XSP, it won't get over the 41 degree Celsius barrier. However, I don't know about others though.
Now for some small hardware lecture. Ahem.
3D Games require more power
More power means the processor will step up its clock rate
Higher clock rate means higher power
Processors emits heat upon high power usage
Thus the heat you get.
Ambient temperature can make it worse too, so don't ever do gaming in a hot environment
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Mine too doesnt go pass the 40 degrees mark however other Sony models specially the newer ones feel less hotter than SP so something about this phone is not right.
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carlfinity said:
Mine too doesnt go pass the 40 degrees mark however other Sony models specially the newer ones feel less hotter than SP so something about this phone is not right.
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Well what you feel is different from what it really is. I believe checking the CPU temp on the newer Sony devices (x degree), and compare with our devices (40-41 degree) will finally unfold the mystery behind XSP heating, perhaps?
And difference between dual core and quad core do play an important role, you know
TechnoSparks said:
Well what you feel is different from what it really is. I believe checking the CPU temp on the newer Sony devices (x degree), and compare with our devices (40-41 degree) will finally unfold the mystery behind XSP heating, perhaps?
And difference between dual core and quad core do play an important role, you know
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That makes it seem ironic, does 4 cores draw more power compared with our dual core? I believe so, since newer Sony models have more or less 2.0 ghz clock speed. I still can't believe those devices felt less hotter given the power that they carry. Anyways, this is just my observation that I hope will benefit the soon to be owners of this device.
Hey guys. I am going to (probably) buy this phone as it is really good/cheap but before i do i would like to ask some questions.
1st. Does it have the new UI of lg? If not is there any news about getting it? (You know the same as LG G3) thats the main reason i want to buy it.
2nd. I like games like dead trigger 1. How does it perform? is it playable at Low-Medium-High-Very high[with GLtools].
3rd. Is this phone going to be updated to Android L? I have been searching for hours but couldn't find something except that android L is 64bit and probably wont run on our phone.
these are my questions till now. thank you in advance!
1 If you root and install cyanogenmod, you can choose a theme (like G3)
2 I don't know
3 who knows, but with cyanogenmod (or other custom rom) there is a lot more possible!
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bravho said:
1 If you root and install cyanogenmod, you can choose a theme (like G3)
2 I don't know
3 who knows, but with cyanogenmod (or other custom rom) there is a lot more possible!
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i am sorry but i hate cyanogenmod 100% stock android look. android by default is super ugly and not even the best theme for cm can fix that
Then you have to look for an other solution (or phone)
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martirio3000 said:
Hey guys. I am going to (probably) buy this phone as it is really good/cheap but before i do i would like to ask some questions.
1st. Does it have the new UI of lg? If not is there any news about getting it? (You know the same as LG G3) thats the main reason i want to buy it.
2nd. I like games like dead trigger 1. How does it perform? is it playable at Low-Medium-High-Very high[with GLtools].
3rd. Is this phone going to be updated to Android L? I have been searching for hours but couldn't find something except that android L is 64bit and probably wont run on our phone.
these are my questions till now. thank you in advance!
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I play dead trigger 2 on very high and it works flawlessly on CM11
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I play dead trigger 2 on very high and it works flawlessly on CM11
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thank you for the info . But i would like to know is there any performance difference between cm11 and stock?
I know ram is better on CM but what about Gpu?
The performance is way better, I don't play games on it, but I noticed when I used scr which is using gpu to render. When I recorded a test, it was smooth.
catbro said:
The performance is way better, I don't play games on it, but I noticed when I used scr which is using gpu to render. When I recorded a test, it was smooth.
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Thank you for the info.
I forgot to ask what about speaker quality is it good? Is it loud?
What do you consider loud? I use it to listen to music while showering and I hear everything, though I have to say that I sample all my songs 125% louder.
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What do you consider loud? I use it to listen to music while showering and I here everything, though I have to say that I sample all my songs 125% louder.
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i can consider it loud when i have it an an other room inside my bag and i can hear it while it is ringing . For example my Sony xperia neo v is super loud.( it has Xloud by Sony).
Then it's loud enough
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I play dead trigger 2 on very high and it works flawlessly on CM11
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Sorry to bother you, but... mine lags (occasionally) even on the lowest settings. So how come CM11 fixes that ? (I mean, Adreno 305 can never outperform Adreno 320)
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Hey guys. I am going to (probably) buy this phone as it is really good/cheap but before i do i would like to ask some questions.
1st. Does it have the new UI of lg? If not is there any news about getting it? (You know the same as LG G3) thats the main reason i want to buy it.
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If you want to root and install CM11 they have a LG G3 theme (Im using it atm) and it looks great.
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If you want to root and install CM11 they have a LG G3 theme (Im using it atm) and it looks great.
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Hi there. I am not willing to install CM11 as it has the aosp look which is UGLY. No mater the theme you put on it. It is ugly. If i get the phone i will create my own themes and try to make this phone look like g3.
If someone needs cm11 then i believe Moto G is better.
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Sorry to bother you, but... mine lags (occasionally) even on the lowest settings. So how come CM11 fixes that ? (I mean, Adreno 305 can never outperform Adreno 320)
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I don't know, I just say in my case Dead Trigger 2 from madfingers (I think) played with no lag at all, needless to say I used to play it quite often on settings that were the highest possible (yes, I did see the difference in graphics after changes, but not in performance)
That's strange because, then it would mean there is no difference between the two GPUs. On my phone, there is no way to play on highest settings. (I tried it today) I can get it to run, but, the frame rate is too choppy.
I'll investigate this further as I'm not sure what settings allow 305 to perform like 320 (which would be great)
@OP
You should learn more about this because, by default, the device cannot run at highest settings without stuttering. (it's a 305)
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That's strange because, then it would mean there is no difference between the two GPUs. On my phone, there is no way to play on highest settings. (I tried it today) I can get it to run, but, the frame rate is too choppy.
I'll investigate this further as I'm not sure what settings allow 305 to perform like 320 (which would be great)
@OP
You should learn more about this because, by default, the device cannot run at highest settings without stuttering. (it's a 305)
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you can give gltools a try. It may increase the fps a bit.