I'm curious if anyone else has noticed this behavior. Maybe it's just due to something I did.
I've always heavily used the Amazon appstore because my first Android device was a Kindle Fire. I have the kindle and amazon mp3 and amazon shopping apps too. Just like Amazon wants, I have some content there so I put the apps on new devices.
I'd been noticing high CPU usage by the Security storage process. It's always the top process by total CPU and sometimes it basically would peg one core. I could tell this was happening because I could feel the phone getting warm in my pocket even though I hadn't been using it. After spending a lot of time trying to tame battery wasters, I was down to this seeming to be the biggest offender. I wrote a script I could use to kill this process when I noticed this, but it was inconvenient because none of the script-execution apps I found could run it with the necessary permissions, though when run from a terminal window it worked. So I was getting pretty annoyed.
I started noticing a couple trends. First, when this was going on, I could see in greenify that some amazon apps were being awakened by others and some were always pending hibernation. My first suspicion was that the Kindle for Samsung app was somehow misusing security storage (whatever that really is!) so I froze it. Seemed to make it a little better but the problem didn't go away.
Then I noticed I seemed to get that trouble shortly after using some of the Amazon free-app-of-the-day offerings I'd recently installed. If I rebooted and stayed away from using any apps from the Amazon appstore, everything seemed to be fine. Hmm. So I froze the appstore and everything else with Amazon in its name. And what do you know... while security storage is still overall the top total cpu user reported by Elixir, I am not seeing the pegging issue or battery drain I used to - in fact it has halved my battery usage on average.
Now, of course I can't use any of the apps I've gotten from the Amazon appstore since they all need to use the appstore app to check in with the mothership. But something in there is causing security storage to go bonkers. Don't know if there's something I can reset to make this happy but I would like to be able to use those apps since I have quite a few useful ones thanks to free apps of the day and free Amazon coins that have come my way over the years!
I noticed the same problems with the amazon apps, horrendous battery drain after the last update plus the amazon app was continuously uploading data in the background [emoji15] about 15mb a day so I uninstalled all of the amazon apps and my phone went back to normal, god knows what amazon was thinking of [emoji35]
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del1701 said:
I noticed the same problems with the amazon apps, horrendous battery drain after the last update plus the amazon app was continuously uploading data in the background [emoji15] about 15mb a day so I uninstalled all of the amazon apps and my phone went back to normal, god knows what amazon was thinking of [emoji35]
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Maybe I'll try the older version of the appstore if I still have the apk.
I never saw this behavior on my LG Optimus G, but I hadn't updated the appstore in a long time. Meanwhile, I updated it on the GS5 every time I was prompted. And I can't say it started happening right from the beginning on the GS5.
If you search around here on xda and over at android central there's loads of people who have noticed the same problem with the amazon apps, funny thing is on my old nexus 7 the amazon app wasn't updated and it worked fine.
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Appstore from June seems to be fine.
I was searching for info on Security Storage - which is pretty sparse!
I know way back when, the Amazon appstore was really ripped on Android Police for being a battery sucker, but it was fixed since then.
Aptoide is the way to go
It's not the App Store app that drains the battery it's the Amazon app which you need for any apps to work [emoji19]
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Thanks for the info
That is a very good thing to know and it would most likely prevent me from downloading these apps
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My fiancee is leaving for vacation in a few weeks and I wanted to get a gps tracking app in case her iphone should get lost or stolen. I would like one that works for android too so i could have one account for both our phones. I thought about google lattitude but i dont see that iphone gets that. Any ideas?
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My fiancee is leaving for vacation in a few weeks and I wanted to get a gps tracking app in case her iphone should get lost or stolen. I would like one that works for android too so i could have one account for both our phones. I thought about google lattitude but i dont see that iphone gets that. Any ideas?
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The only one that I know of for the iPhone that is a sure thing is mobileMe. $99 though, but it's for the year, plus it'll back up just about everything on the phone too, so if anything does happen to it, it'll be backed up.
As far as android, I was using lookout, it's free in the market. Simple web interface, and it too will back up a bunch of your info, as well as find your phone.
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The only one that I know of for the iPhone that is a sure thing is mobileMe. $99 though, but it's for the year, plus it'll back up just about everything on the phone too, so if anything does happen to it, it'll be backed up.
As far as android, I was using lookout, it's free in the market. Simple web interface, and it too will back up a bunch of your info, as well as find your phone.
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Ill check out mobileme for me, theres no way im paying $100 for the iphone program though. I just want something that you can pull up say, 'hey theres my phone' and be done.
While iOS4 finally allows location to run in the backgroud, I think it only allows pre-running location to run. Meaning the program would have to be started by her any time her phone resets, constantly be tracking the phone, and would wear out the battery super fast. I could be wrong on this, but I have never personally come across an app store program that could do this.
If your wifes phone is jailbroken, there are a few apps that do this in a much better way. Ilocalis is supposed to be one but I never got around to trying any of them when I had my iPhone. Hope this helps!
Suggest you to try Fameelee - Family Locator app. It works in background, highly accurate and drain 3% of the battery life only.
Give it a try and you will be addicted to it.
Fameelee said:
Suggest you to try Fameelee - Family Locator app. It works in background, highly accurate and drain 3% of the battery life only.
Give it a try and you will be addicted to it.
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Sorry but i couldn't find any app for iOS. This seems to be another nice app
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I found some apps
Labour Sync: This GPS tracker app eliminates the need for paper timesheets with automatic reports that can be customized and filtered by employee, job and time frame. You can see exactly how much time is being spent on a particular project.
+ Android
+ AppStore
+Apk file
Hubstaff: Time tracking and GPS verification
+ Android
+ AppStore
+ Apk file
Hope it will help.
Check out Amazon. They have an App store now. Supposed to have a free paid app every day. I got Angry Birds Rio just a minute ago...
A free paid app?
EDIT: OH, I see what you mean... cool
I love the amazon app store, now we will have access to all the paid apps with no hacks (assuming the developers of the apps make the move.)
Not available in my geographic location..... The wild, freezing tundra of the great white north. I suppose after today's seal hunt, and before I start today's grapple with that damn polar bear, I'll find some third party site to download the apk from.
I wonder why they are charging for regular angry birds and other free apps on it when you can get them for free on the google android market
I am more than pleased w/ the Amazon app store. Took me 5 mins to set it up first thing this am, and within 5 mins it recognized my G tab with no issues.
Works much better than the Android market place. No need to do Market fixes when they do updates.
turboaddiction said:
I wonder why they are charging for regular angry birds and other free apps on it when you can get them for free on the google android market
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That would be the "AD free" version sir
They also have the ad supported free one on the market as well
It'll be interesting to see how they're market handles multiple devices and frequency for updates.
Only negative I've seen so far, is that the apps seem to take quite a bit longer from amazon. Uninstalled AB and then downloaded and installed from android market, then downloaded and installed from amazon market, took 3 almost 4 times longer to download from amazon.
Angry Birds RIO
I also downloaded the Amazon app, and then at the top Angry Birds RIO showed for free download. Had some initial issues with my password, I could not get my regular Amazon password to work same as my mobile.. But all is well, and Angry Birds RIO plays great... I look forward to their future fee offerings, and I also found it works a lot better than Marketplace.
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the link is: http://www.amazon.com/appstore
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Check out Amazon. They have an App store now. Supposed to have a free paid app every day. I got Angry Birds Rio just a minute ago...
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Anyone running Amazon Appstore on stock rom GTablet?
It works great on my VEGAN-tab but when I try to install it on my stock GTablet, I receive an error: "There was a temporary error logging in. Please try again in a few moments."
I tried again a few moments later over and over again all day, and still no luck. I couldn't even download the app properly...had to transfer via USB. Only to get this error message.
But in my VEGAN-tab, downloaded, installed and ran absolutely perfectly.
Anyone else having this problem? Any ideas why?
lordgodgeneral said:
It'll be interesting to see how they're market handles multiple devices and frequency for updates.
Only negative I've seen so far, is that the apps seem to take quite a bit longer from amazon. Uninstalled AB and then downloaded and installed from android market, then downloaded and installed from amazon market, took 3 almost 4 times longer to download from amazon.
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I noticed that as well. I am thinking (hoping) that it is due to the fact that it just launched and they are swamped a bit. Will know better after a couple weeks.
Still over all I like it. It seems to work pretty smooth on my ancient G1
I have stock rom and it works fine. A little slow like others have said but this is good for me without access to market apps. Nice to be set up already as an Amazon customer.
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It'll be interesting to see how they're market handles multiple devices and frequency for updates.
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I used the same amazon account on all 3 of my devices and anything I purchased or was available for install on all 3 devices. So I guess you can install an app that you purchased on as many devices that you own without paying separately for each device, which is how it should be. You paid for the software and should be able to use it on any device you wish within reason. +1 for amazon! I hope they don't change this.
Tank Hero
For those that couldn't get tank hero on the upgraded market with Vegan you can now get it with the Amazon Market, gonna search for a few other things that were missing from the Android Market. Me Likey!!
D Wright said:
I have stock rom and it works fine. A little slow like others have said but this is good for me without access to market apps. Nice to be set up already as an Amazon customer.
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Not sure what the problem was, but a factory reset seemed to clear it up.
I am definitely excited about the Amazon app store. It looks like a great alternative for tablets without Market access. But beware that one-click ordering...sometimes too easy is not a good thing!
It is the whole app and website that is slow. Every part of the process takes longer than Market. However, there are a number of things I can't find on the Market that I could at Amazon. Kudos overall.
Even if it stays slower I am liking it. It is not like I will install software every day. I found it nice that I could go to the app website make the purchases and then at my convenience install them on my device.
I don't have my GTab yet so I am really living in the slow lane with my venerable G1
akodoreign said:
That would be the "AD free" version sir
They also have the ad supported free one on the market as well
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Thats good to know i would definately pay for some apps to be ad free.
clintre said:
Even if it stays slower I am liking it. It is not like I will install software every day. I found it nice that I could go to the app website make the purchases and then at my convenience install them on my device.
I don't have my GTab yet so I am really living in the slow lane with my venerable G1
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Yes, I am as well.
After browsing around, I am willing to trade the speed for truly functional search. The ability to filter the listings alone makes it a winner over the Market.
I can't get the Amazon Appstore app to install. It gives me the message "Do you want to install this application? It will get access to:" then a list of areas and boxes for cancel or install. When I click install nothing happens. The cancel box works. (I did check the unknown sources in settings)
If it is being blocked by Google, that would suck.
I'm pretty shure its being blocked by Google.
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Threevo said:
I'm pretty shure its being blocked by Google.
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If it's being blocked I might return my Nexus 7. It would suck that they would only let you buy apps from them.
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I can't get the Amazon Appstore app to install. It gives me the message "Do you want to install this application? It will get access to:" then a list of areas and boxes for cancel or install. When I click install nothing happens. The cancel box works. (I did check the unknown sources in settings)
If it is being blocked by Google, that would suck.
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Not true it's working for me. Go to Amazon& request a new link to be sent to your email.
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Thats strange, i was able to do it on my N7. Maybe a reboot of some sort?
Works fine here. Go into Setting>Security and check Allow unknown sources. Go to Amazon web site and follow instructions to download and install. Did that to download an older version of a zombie killing game that works on N7.
Works fine for me. I use it every day to get the free "cr"app of the day.
Try rebooting it then re-installing.
If you're installing it from a previous backup from another device, it most likely won't work (not assuming you are, but just in case...) Like the others said, go to Amazon and get it directly and you should have no problem.
What worked for me was clicking the link for tablets. It says something like "no email or phone number, click here" and that downloaded the APK directly into my system download folder. From there it installed just fine. I had to do this to get it on my Google TV also. It seems to bypass some sort of test since the Google TV isn't officially compatible with it.
I just worked with an Amazon tech, got it to install using by going to this like in the browser on the N7.
http://www.amazon.com/app-email
Works fine now.
Mine installed fine. I used the APK from my phone. Got a bunch of the nicer FAOTD apps working perfectly too.
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Works fine for me. I use it every day to get the free "cr"app of the day.
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Idk man, I've gotten a few awesome ones for free, like quick office, sketchbook mobile, and some games like monopoly for free.
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I find it incredible that everyone is giving Amazon a free pass for contributing to the Android Malware myth.
The fact you have to enable side loading on an Android phone to allow Amazon, means any other malware could also slip in. Using Amazon app store is a REALLY bad idea (plus the fact it's a barren wasteland compared to Google Play, and most of the apps are really out of date versions).
Surely the lure of free versions of old apps is not that strong that you want to open your phone up to allsorts of Android malware nasties?
CrazyPeter said:
I find it incredible that everyone is giving Amazon a free pass for contributing to the Android Malware myth.
The fact you have to enable side loading on an Android phone to allow Amazon, means any other malware could also slip in. Using Amazon app store is a REALLY bad idea (plus the fact it's a barren wasteland compared to Google Play, and most of the apps are really out of date versions).
Surely the lure of free versions of old apps is not that strong that you want to open your phone up to allsorts of Android malware nasties?
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Bugger the Apps they get games too. Of course only if you're from a certain country.
Majority of the free apps are a joke.
I usually check it every day and realize they're all trash (except maybe 2 apps so far) and then I uninstall it. For some reason I get struck with the idiotic idea that I may be missing out on some good free apps, so I stupidly install it again in hopes of some decent apps...... it never happens
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Majority of the free apps are a joke.
I usually check it every day and realize they're all trash (except maybe 2 apps so far) and then I uninstall it. For some reason I get struck with the idiotic idea that I may be missing out on some good free apps, so I stupidly install it again in hopes of some decent apps...... it never happens
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That's what most people think. Once you discover what Amazon are offering for free is basically stuff that deserves to be free anyway, make sure you re-tick the Android security setting and revert back to the proper Android store that Google host.
mtfsandlin said:
Idk man, I've gotten a few awesome ones for free, like quick office, sketchbook mobile, and some games like monopoly for free.
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When it first came out, it was great. Now, the free app is usually a very crappy game. In the past, I got:
Fancy Widgets Pro, Weatherbug Elite, Thumb Keyboard, App 2 SD Pro, Moon Phase Pro, Quickoffice Pro, SoundHound Infinity, Shazam, SwiftKey 3, and several other good ones.
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That's what most people think. Once you discover what Amazon are offering for free is basically stuff that deserves to be free anyway, make sure you re-tick the Android security setting and revert back to the proper Android store that Google host.
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1. I've never once gotten malware and I always sideload apps. I always leave that setting unticked as do most folks I'm sure.
2. having Amazon app store or any other app store doesn't change your default android Google play store.
You want malware, go download Blackmarket apps or pirate stuff, you'll get it then. I do suggest tho, that everyone should install a malware scanner. Avast, lookout, etc.
CrazyPeter said:
I find it incredible that everyone is giving Amazon a free pass for contributing to the Android Malware myth.
The fact you have to enable side loading on an Android phone to allow Amazon, means any other malware could also slip in. Using Amazon app store is a REALLY bad idea (plus the fact it's a barren wasteland compared to Google Play, and most of the apps are really out of date versions).
Surely the lure of free versions of old apps is not that strong that you want to open your phone up to allsorts of Android malware nasties?
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What? Side loading doesn't put you at any greater risk of malware. You always choose to install an app, whether you side loaded it or not.
Nothing wrong or risky with downloading the Amazon app store, being able to choose a different app store is one of the best things about android. CHOICE.
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Had a s#it ton of data drops lately and couldn't figure out why because it want a problem in the past. Seems to have coincided with the latest system update. Anyways I noticed a pattern involving the Facebook app and the data drops (even ruining in the background). Uninstalled the app and once again am data drop free. Must be some kind of conflict between the app and the 905 build.
Just thought maybe this would help someone else out that us losing their mind with data drops.
Btw, Facebook is the worst tech company I've ever seen at coding. Should really fire their entire staff and start over or outsource. With every update the product got worse. (rant off).
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Had a s#it ton of data drops lately and couldn't figure out why because it want a problem in the past. Seems to have coincided with the latest system update. Anyways I noticed a pattern involving the Facebook app and the data drops (even ruining in the background). Uninstalled the app and once again am data drop free. Must be some kind of conflict between the app and the 905 build.
Just thought maybe this would help someone else out that us losing their mind with data drops.
Btw, Facebook is the worst tech company I've ever seen at coding. Should really fire their entire staff and start over or outsource. With every update the product got worse. (rant off).
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I am with you on this one. The facebook app is one of the worse apps i've ever used. With every update it gets slower and slower. It's not the phone or my connection as it happens the same on wifi. Sometimes I am better off opening the browser and going directly to the website which is about 10x faster. Even my brother who is on ATT/Iphone says the same thing. I do not experience data drops like you're mentioning and to think I tried to apply for Facebook -.-...
I hate to sound like a ****, but maybe use a different app? One of my favorites for everthing is Scope Beta
Scope Beta Link
It is an easy beta to get into.
(Rant on)
I have stopped using Facebook altogether, plus they are a huge security flaw in the Android framework. If (and this is a big) Facebook brings their games to Android then I will be forever scared of Facebook. I have seen girls computers contract viruses just from using Facebook (guys also but knowing men we look at porn so we really dont count) the one question I ask them is do you use Facebook games, 97% of the time it is yes.
Like you said also the source code used for the Android app/ iPhone app is complete and utter POS. Which also scares me becasue this code could be used for exploitation. I havent deleted my Facebook yet....It is still on the list lol
(Rant off)
Everyone I know likes Facebook I cant stand it....is why I rant....
28 hours and not a single data drop. Before I was getting probably upwards of 10 per hour if not more under heavy usage. I was about to yell, rant, and cuss at big red to try to get a credit towards a different phone, and then pay for one even at full price if need be. Now I can enjoy this phone once again.
I just haven't looked at using an alternative app yet, but plan to. And fb wonders why their ipo wasn't a big success... Look at the product.
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This is my experience EXACTLY. It's impossible to use my phone, and it feels like it coincided with the latest update and installation of facebook. My phone is unusable as it sits, I will try uninstalling FB and see if it clears up my issue with data drops.
Facebook knows about their app issues. That's why they made everyone get an Android until the problems are solved. They also abandoned HTML5 and will no longer use it.
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Never have I felt like such a google fan boy till I got this 7" tablet from amazon.
My SO purchased one during the black friday deal for her mom. It just showed up and I dont know what this thing is. I own a nexus 6 that I have been learning how to flash custom features too, so I understand that concept. But when I got this Fire 7" running I go to install chrome, and nothing? I am out of the loop here. I was told to do what ever it is I do to these smartthings before it leaves for no mans land Ketchikan AK.
I must admit, I am out of the loop with this device, never thought I'd be using one. Thought it would be more similar to lollipop than it is. What do I need to know? I'd like to be able to trouble shoot the device through a remote connection if there is ever a problem.
Running Fire OS 5.1.1.
Looking down at the lock screen... theres ads?
Please ELI5.
Thanks for reading
I don't know if its possible to install the Google play services to use certain Google apps on 5.1.1 you'd have to try it for yourself. I'm OTA blocked on 5.0.1 so I have full Google play store
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I just side loaded the play store and it worked fine on 5.1.1
Also you can root 5.1.1 now
Hamm1701 said:
My SO purchased one during the black friday deal for her mom. It just showed up and I dont know what this thing is. I own a nexus 6 that I have been learning how to flash custom features too, so I understand that concept. But when I got this Fire 7" running I go to install chrome, and nothing? I am out of the loop here. I was told to do what ever it is I do to these smartthings before it leaves for no mans land Ketchikan AK.
I must admit, I am out of the loop with this device, never thought I'd be using one. Thought it would be more similar to lollipop than it is. What do I need to know? I'd like to be able to trouble shoot the device through a remote connection if there is ever a problem.
Running Fire OS 5.1.1.
Looking down at the lock screen... theres ads?
Please ELI5.
Thanks for reading
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It is completely possible... Just download the Google Apps Zip from this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
Then, put the APKs on your fire tablet. Easiest way is to extract, then put on onedrive, then install onedrive on phone and download.
Next, make sure to install in THIS ORDER:
1.) Google Account manager
2.) Google Play Services
3.) Google Services Framework
4.) Google Play Store
There should be one duplicate APK in there. It doesn't matter which one you use, worst case, it will update itself. Hope this works for you like it did for me!
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It is completely possible... Just download the Google Apps Zip from this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/installing-google-framework-playstore-t3216122
Then, put the APKs on your fire tablet. Easiest way is to extract, then put on onedrive, then install onedrive on phone and download.
Next, make sure to install in THIS ORDER:
1.) Google Account manager
2.) Google Play Services
3.) Google Services Framework
4.) Google Play Store
There should be one duplicate APK in there. It doesn't matter which one you use, worst case, it will update itself. Hope this works for you like it did for me!
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Thanks for the tips! This tablet feels like some odd offspring of iOS and kitkat.
Hamm1701 said:
Thanks for the tips! This tablet feels like some odd offspring of iOS and kitkat.
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Love the tablet best £50 I've ever spent £35 was a steal black friday
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You can use the new, just posted supertool to do everything. Be aware that blocking OTA via the supertool may not currently work on 5.1.1, give them a little time & it will likely be fixed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/amazon-fire-5th-gen-supertool-root-t3272695/
Do not send off the Fire until OTA is blocked. Failure to block OTA will likely result in amazon undoing anything you've down to the Fire (& potentially locking out future mods) when the next OTA update appears.
tonyt3rry said:
Love the tablet best £50 I've ever spent £35 was a steal black friday
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Yea, $35, and a little bit of time, it'll be a good buy.
blueberry.sky said:
You can use the new, just posted supertool to do everything. Be aware that blocking OTA via the supertool may not currently work on 5.1.1, give them a little time & it will likely be fixed.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/development/amazon-fire-5th-gen-supertool-root-t3272695/
Do not send off the Fire until OTA is blocked. Failure to block OTA will likely result in amazon undoing anything you've down to the Fire (& potentially locking out future mods) when the next OTA update appears.
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Finding the com.amazon.device.software.ota file in ES explorer with root access and renaming it should be pretty simple after the tool roots it.
Tool updated already anyway