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The frustration of release dates

Why do we have to endure weeks of waiting for the release of a new Samsung device when it has been announced? All those people at the unpacked event waving the Note 4 and Edge around on stage or within the experience stands make me jealous but also make me angry.
I never see why the phones/devices cannot be on the shelves within a week of an announcement for contract free purchases. I understand there might be negotiations with carriers but why stop those with the cash in their hands?
I also would love to know who decides on which country gets a certain device and when.
Samsung is particularly bad at this. They drag their heels with pricing, release dates and availability. Surely this can be all in place prior to their events.

It's not wrong, you're right!
Apple does very well

I know. How long does it take to mole the circuit board, etc?
Its potential for cash cow. People say Oct 5th for T-mobile. Thats 4 weeks too long.

This is one thing Apple actually does very well. Release date generally follows announcement by less than 2 weeks. Pre-orders start just a few days after the announcement.

It is very annoying. I wish they'd just wait to announce until they're closer to release. Who cares if it leaks during production? Samsung isn't as bad as LG tho, they are terrible.
This article is another reason why the wait is irritating. http://www.gsmarena.com/nvidia_files_a_patent_lawsuit_against_samsung_and_qualcomm-news-9564.php

Samsung is terrible at this. Apple has almost always released within earshot knowing the hypetrain is still there. By the time Note 4 arrives iPhone6 will be on shelves. Noone outside the geekworld is hyped about a Note 4. Even casuals know a new and bigger iPhone are coming. After the S5 dissaponting sales you'd think Samsung would pull out all stops.

Shame, they could be taking advantage of the earlier announcement over apple but they're going to just let apple rake in the earlier pre orders.

for one, it's pretty obvious they need time to produce hundreds of thousands of them first., on top of that, each carrier needs time to receive the units and to do their own testing and get samsung to load things on to them, firmware,modems,etc..
surely if they were available right after announced that would mean the device was already in productions many weeks prior and shipped/stocked at all retailers before hand.. this wouldn't make sense..
this is just standard on all electronic and if you ever bought any other piece of electronic in the past, you would have known this is normal practice to announce and then begin shipping out to retailers.
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Shame, they could be taking advantage of the earlier announcement over apple but they're going to just let apple rake in the earlier pre orders.
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preorders are already open on the sprint website and have been for a couple days http://www.sprint.com/landings/samsung_note4/index.html?ECID=vanity:galaxynote4
blame the carrier if yours isn't available for preorder yet.

tft said:
for one, it's pretty obvious they need time to produce hundreds of thousands of them first., on top of that, each carrier needs time to receive the units and to do their own testing and get samsung to load things on to them, firmware,modems,etc..
surely if they were available right after announced that would mean the device was already in productions many weeks prior and shipped/stocked at all retailers before hand.. this wouldn't make sense..
this is just standard on all electronic and if you ever bought any other piece of electronic in the past, you would have known this is normal practice to announce and then begin shipping out to retailers.
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Well I already stated that I understood why there was a delay for carrier testing but I am talking about those who wish to buy outright. And if Apple and HTC can get their stock out shortly after announcements then why can't Samsung? Saying this is normal practice does not make it acceptable.
The devices shown at the launch were not prototypes, the production process has already begun and could have been stepped up prior to the launch.
Also, it still does not answer the question on pricing, release dates and country availability (for carrier free devices) these things need to be finalised before launch or very shortly after. In my opinion it's all just a tactic to build up some sort of hype

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blame the carrier if yours isn't available for preorder yet.
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Preorder is not the same thing. I only see registration for email alert. Same as T-mobile.

I find it strange that Cellphone carriers do not even concentrate in advertizing for the release of the Note 4.

This is why its nice not having carriers mess and install a bunch of bloat. I don't think carriers mess around with iPhones and install their software on it, so less time wasted on things you don't need or care about. Just get the product out and sell it.
Anyways, just poor planning really, a month is a long time in the tech world and consumer electronic hype wears off fairly fast when something else new and shiny comes out in between then.

apprentice said:
Saying this is normal practice does not make it acceptable.
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People love hyperbole I guess. If it is 'unacceptable' to you then buy an iPhone or HTC product.
Samsung can release its phone any dang time they feel like it - that's their business. If you don't like it, you can not buy it - that's your business.

JasonJoel said:
People love hyperbole I guess. If it is 'unacceptable' to you then buy an iPhone or HTC product.
Samsung can release its phone any dang time they feel like it - that's their business. If you don't like it, you can not buy it - that's your business.
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Well duh.. Thanks for explaining that, I feel so enlightened now.
My point of this post is for debate as to why it happens. We the consumers are entitled to complain. I am looking for logical answers not "If you don't like it buy something else" it's not bringing much to the table.

Thats why i am getting the Iphone 6 over the Note 4, it'll be available sooner and i need a high end phone bad. Good thing is ill be able to sell the iphone 6 at a great price and pick up the note 4 when its out.

apprentice said:
Well duh.. Thanks for explaining that, I feel so enlightened now.
My point of this post is for debate as to why it happens. We the consumers are entitled to complain. I am looking for logical answers not "If you don't like it buy something else" it's not bringing much to the table.
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There is no answer other than that is how samsung chooses to do it.
Could they hold the announcement closer to the physical release? Yes, of course they could. They just prefer to do it this way, for whatever marketing reason.
If the marketing people thought it was strategic to announce closer to physical release, they would. But clearly they don't.

If Samsung "should" copy something apple does, its their method of announcing and SHIPPING a product very quickly post launch. That is their only major issue. Why allow other OEM's to get product out the door and lose sales and yes they do lose sales and now that apple is going big and bigger on their phones next week with a launch before the Note 4 hits stores that is a big deal and some would be Note 4 buyers will get a 5.5" iphone instead, (dumb move, but it's their choice).
I fully agree with the OP and carriers are very likely the issue. Negotiations would likely have been done already, in the US anyways its likely more about last minute bloatware and who has a "bigger" tower than anything else.

I blame Verizon, for everything lol.

Apple has more control over the carriers.
Apple has more control over the carriers and the supply chain, that is why their rollouts are quicker.

iPhone 6 on the 19th
I thought this thread would be exploding with comments about how Apple can do it in less than 2 weeks.
Anything over 30 days is crazy. The battery life on my Note 2 fading away, I've been eligible for an upgrade for months.
Now that I know the specifics of the Note 4 it has given my a chance to look at other phones S5, G3, M8 or wait for Nexus X.
The longer I wait the less likely that I'll make an 'impulse buy' I'm still excited about the Note 4 but I'm weighting the cost vs features.
What's up with the pre order pages on Samsung.com and Sprint.com? Did I actually pretty order or was it just an email notification? I didn't even receive an email confirmation.

Note 4 - Canadian Thread

So far we've been left in the dark as to the release day and price of the Note 4 but here is all the information that I have so far.
Pre-order Info:
Samsung Stores (Brick and Mortar) are doing a "pre-order" where you can either stop in or call and leave your information and which color of phone you want. When they get either a demo model or the actual phones to sell (my guess is the former), they'll contact you so you can have a look and secure your pre-order. My guess is that at this point they may require a deposit but I'm not 100% sure on that, neither was the person I spoke with.
Best Buy and Future Shop are also doing a pre-order where you have to put $50 down and you can save 20% off an accessory when the phone comes in. This is in store only. Scroll down a bit to see the advert, and it doesn't mention the $50 deposit online however it said that in the flyer.
BB http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/categor...spx?path=b364a01690d452db534a54a7b0c62a26en01
FS http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/cate...spx?path=a432f45c3e0aad5c68a07dead707b842en01
Costco
I spoke with someone at Wireless Etc. which is located in Costco stores and he said that they had training on Oct. 7 for the Note 4 and that he presumed it would be an Oct. 17 launch day however nothing for the launch date had been confirmed.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2888858
Expansys.ca will ship "no later than Thursday" of you want to give them all your money. Apparently.

Don't
Before giving them 1000$+ be sure the model # is sm-n910w8 or else you will be very disappointed.

Expansys.ca
Ok, so I just confirmed that Expansys.ca ships the Exynos version.

gqman69 said:
Ok, so I just confirmed that Expansys.ca ships the Exynos version.
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You'd better double-check, maybe triple-check, because they told me it was Exynos first, then said:
"Jorge is incorrect. The SnapDragon model is the one that we will be receiving "
My confidence in them is quickly fading
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Ok, so I just confirmed that Expansys.ca ships the Exynos version.
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Ok, just confirmed again, and it is the Exynos model they are getting - no Canadian LTE, so I'll be passing.

I don't understand why Samsung doesn't just sell unlocked phones. That would make things so much easier.

Squirrel_Master said:
I don't understand why Samsung doesn't just sell unlocked phones. That would make things so much easier.
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I know, I find it completely ridiculous that so many of us WANT to spend our money on their phones, but it's so god damn difficult. My brother wanted an iPhone 6, he got it no problem. Me? Wait several weeks after launch and still don't get a price or delivery date... then have to find loopholes to get an unlocked phone without selling my right arm in the process.
Yo, Sammy! I've got money, so let me spend it! :victory:

Well have you seen how the iphone 6 launch was rushed. All the iOS 8 problems and iphone 6 issues. Samsung want to keep those problems as minimal as possible. The wait is going to be worth it

duykhang524 said:
Well have you seen how the iphone 6 launch was rushed. All the iOS 8 problems and iphone 6 issues. Samsung want to keep those problems as minimal as possible. The wait is going to be worth it
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I don't mind a wait, but we don't even know how long we'll be waiting or how much we'll have to spend in the end. It's a really poor business practice.

Squirrel_Master said:
I don't understand why Samsung doesn't just sell unlocked phones. That would make things so much easier.
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I know, I find it completely ridiculous that so many of us WANT to spend our money on their phones, but it's so god damn difficult. My brother wanted an iPhone 6, he got it no problem. Me? Wait several weeks after launch and still don't get a price or delivery date... then have to find loopholes to get an unlocked phone without selling my right arm in the process.
Yo, Sammy! I've got money, so let me spend it! :victory:
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It sucks too because I am in the position where renewing on a 2 year contract and losing my amazingly cheap 6GB plan would cost me more in the long run then buying the phone out right.
So I will be buying mine in full (hopefully not outrageously priced).
I find it ridiculous that they don't allow us to buy an unlocked clean from carrier bloat version off their website, however there is way if you live in Vancouver lol. In the Metrotown mall there is our 1 and only Samsung store in Canada and you can get the phones from there and I believe they are unlocked but you half to walk in to get them >_<
However unlocking a carrier one isn't a big deal anymore, because of the new CRTC ruling the carriers half to give you unlock codes if you want them and its limited to a max price of $50, but you can simply go to one of those 3rd party cell unlocking sites and get the Samsung unlock codes for your phone for $30 which is what I've always done to unlock my phones from Bell.

What bothers me too is that some places won't even sell a no term Note 4. I understand with the iPhone that Apple bars the selling of no term phones for 3 months because they want customers to come directly to them. However with Samsung it's different as there are not nearly as many Samsung stores as Apple stores and no matter what you can't buy the phone unlocked from Samsung it had to be liked to a carrier. They need to offer the phone through their online store and retail stores unlocked, it's as simple as that. Whether they ever smarten is another story.
The same goes for their launches, take a page out of Apple's book and have everything ready and 2 weeks out at most after the initial release party. Also they need to have prices when they do the unveiling. For all of us here it will be delayed gratification as we're getting the phone we know we want. But what about the how many other people out there that didn't want to wait and are now owning a new 6+. They may have the (imo) inferior device but they also didn't give Samsung a dime. People want things now at least in North America and are not willing to wait.
What does everyone think the Note 4 will cost? Same price as last year? I can't think off hand if the dollar has changed much in they last year which would bump our costs up. American pricing seems the same as last year I believe so maybe $750?

So it looks like it's Oct. 17 for Canada http://mobilesyrup.com/2014/10/01/samsungs-galaxy-note-4-to-arrive-in-canada-on-october-17/
It's funny because I had just talked to 2 Telus stores, and one said either the 4th or 14th and the other said their was a dealer forum happening on the 9th so it would be just before our after that.
Still no pricing yet.

Squirrel_Master said:
So it looks like it's Oct. 17 for Canada http://mobilesyrup.com/2014/10/01/samsungs-galaxy-note-4-to-arrive-in-canada-on-october-17/
It's funny because I had just talked to 2 Telus stores, and one said either the 4th or 14th and the other said their was a dealer forum happening on the 9th so it would be just before our after that.
Still no pricing yet.
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All the Canadian Note 4 firmware's have been released on Samsung's Kies firmware update servers, Sammobile has them downloaded already for anyone who wish to get them as well. This is good news for us as Samsung Canada has a habit of making sure the firmware's are pre-available close to a release date to make sure that things go smoothly and on the off chance something needs to be reinitialized the full firmware is there for repair/recovery.
So with this our version of the phone should be just around the corner ^_^ , lets hope for no delays!

i got tired of waiting and got myself the Exynos version. using on Bell now, loving it. Didnt even have to setup access point for data.

shollywood said:
i got tired of waiting and got myself the Exynos version. using on Bell now, loving it. Didnt even have to setup access point for data.
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What model from what region did you get? Most likely though you do not have the LTE access with the imported phone or only 2600MHz band in select few citys which isn't very good.

got the 910U...says 4G...im finding it way faster than my G3 that was on LTE???

shollywood said:
i got tired of waiting and got myself the Exynos version. using on Bell now, loving it. Didnt even have to setup access point for data.
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From where? What was the total price?
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shollywood said:
got the 910U...says 4G...im finding it way faster than my G3 that was on LTE???
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Do a speed test and post a screen shot please

shollywood said:
got the 910U...says 4G...im finding it way faster than my G3 that was on LTE???
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Often outside of North America a lot of phones firmware's will use the term 4G for H+ (because of a technicality) and then for LTE they will show it as 4GLTE or just LTE.
You should be able to find more information on what the phone is using in the About section.

Thats not the case. It switches between 4G and H+. I use slingplayer everynight on my commute home. There is always minimum 4 spots where the video cuts out for at least 30 seconds each time. Tonight, my first with this device, never happened once. Also the clarity of the pictures and colour was bar far better than any other device ive used. My last 3 devices were Note 3, Z2 and LG G 3. Suggest somewhere for me to do a speed test and ill post results tomorrow.
Hope this info helps people.

Pre Orders gone live with Bell and Pricing revealed!
http://www.bell.ca/Mobility/Products/Galaxy-Note-4
$799 CAD Buyout not bad, glad it didn't explode past that point.
They also revealed that the official launch date is the 24th when you mouse over the Order button.

[Q] Note 4 Now, or Wait?

I know there's a current limited time offer with a $200 rebate, but does anyone know or think the price will drop further next month when the Note 5 launches? How much and how soon did the Note 3 drop after the N4 came out? Should I wait a little longer, or dive in now and go through the rebate hassle?
(for the record, I'm much more interested in the N4 than the N5)

Here are some thoughts about when the n5 will come out.
http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-galaxy-note-5/
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I've had the n4 since release. It's the best phone I ever had.
But, if the n5 isn't crippled, I'll get it on release. Give my n4 to my sweetie and her s4 to one of my parents and sell that parents s3.

You already know the n4 is the phone you want. How much more do you think it will go down and how long will that take? $200 is a pretty good discount. If lets say it went down another $50 (total of $250), I doubt that would happen right away and I doubt it will even go down lower than that. But how long do you want to wait? Is an additional $50 worth the wait? If that will even happen.
also if I recall correctly, no other phones by samsung ever went down that much $200) when the new version was released.

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You already know the n4 is the phone you want. How much more do you think it will go down and how long will that take? $200 is a pretty good discount. If lets say it went down another $50 (total of $250), I doubt that would happen right away and I doubt it will even go down lower than that. But how long do you want to wait? Is an additional $50 worth the wait? If that will even happen.
also if I recall correctly, no other phones by samsung ever went down that much $200) when the new version was released.
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Really good point! Now my wife is considering doing Jump on Demand, which was making me consider that too. But I usually like sticking with a single phone, rooting, customizing, installing ROMs, etc. She doesn't. Okay, I think I'll be joining the N4 club this weekend. Thanks for helping me decide.

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Really good point! Now my wife is considering doing Jump on Demand, which was making me consider that too. But I usually like sticking with a single phone, rooting, customizing, installing ROMs, etc. She doesn't. Okay, I think I'll be joining the N4 club this weekend. Thanks for helping me decide.
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I joined jump on demand about two weeks ago. Love it so far. Went from my G3 and started the program with an S6E. That was a mistake. Took it back after about 4 days and jumped to the Note 4. No hassles no issues. They don't check the phone for root either, like some people were suggesting since technically it's a lease.
If you're someone who likes to keep up on the new phones, and don't want to go through the hassle of selling your old phone to pay for the new, its a great program. Hopefully they will keep up on the phones to choose from with each big release, that's the real question.

Actually Samsung had a $200 promotion when they released the Note 4 if you preordered, which i did. The promotion was run by a real sleazy company and you had to scream and complain to get them to honor it, but they eventually did.
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Well, I ended up getting the Note 4 this weekend and submitted my info for the rebate. I still have a few more customizations to do, but so far, I'm loving it. And for the most part, I think I kinda like the touchwiz implementation of Lollipop over Google's. This phone has exceeded my expectations!

For Anyone Who Ordered Direct from Samsung

I just got off the phone with a kind woman over at Samsung regarding my pre-order, placed on the 3rd of this month. I was simply asking her -- considering both t-mobile and verizon have begun charging/shipping phones -- whether or not I should stick with my order at Samsung directly, or cancel it and go through my provider (Verizon... I know).
She very warmly told me, that Samsung would not be shipping phones until mid-September... I got a little worked up at this point and said "excuse me? I ordered this on the pretense that it would be shipped AT THE LEAST by the 19th" to which she fumbled around for a bit and told me that, "No dear, all Samsung orders are going out mid-September."
Suffice to say - this was rather surprising news and I'm pretty damned upset about it. I think I'll be going ahead and cancelling my order and walking into a store on Friday.
Just a heads up to anyone else waiting (if anyone else is waiting) on Samsung direct.
ETA - I didn't mean to post this in the T-mobile section - my apologies!!

Chikenbok said:
I just got off the phone with a kind woman over at Samsung regarding my pre-order, placed on the 3rd of this month. I was simply asking her -- considering both t-mobile and verizon have begun charging/shipping phones -- whether or not I should stick with my order at Samsung directly, or cancel it and go through my provider (Verizon... I know).
She very warmly told me, that Samsung would not be shipping phones until mid-September... I got a little worked up at this point and said "excuse me? I ordered this on the pretense that it would be shipped AT THE LEAST by the 19th" to which she fumbled around for a bit and told me that, "No dear, all Samsung orders are going out mid-September."
Suffice to say - this was rather surprising news and I'm pretty damned upset about it. I think I'll be going ahead and cancelling my order and walking into a store on Friday.
Just a heads up to anyone else waiting (if anyone else is waiting) on Samsung direct.
ETA - I didn't mean to post this in the T-mobile section - my apologies!!
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I had also preordered the Coral Blue Note 7 directly from samsung.com and chose T-Mobile as the carrier. After reading your post, I called up samsung customer service too and they told me that those that preordered will be receiving the first batch before August 19th. I'm not sure if its just a T-Mobile thing though, since I see that you ordered from Verizon. Maybe you should try calling Verizon too to verify this information before you cancel.

I actually called back a couple of times to get some kind of statistical honesty... Yeah I know.
Finally I spoke to someone high enough up the ladder who said, "the only people who know when the phones from Samsung will ship, are the corporate execs. Despite what anyone tells you, only carriers can release early, as the manufacturer, we just wait. However, if you did preorder early, you will get your phone around the 19th as we've been told."
It only took me 5 phone calls to get some honesty... Albeit bizarre honesty. ALL I WANTED WAS TO HEAR 'Hey man, I'm gonna ship your phone on Monday!"
BTW I also went with coral blue, ordered on 8/3
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The difference is a carrier branded model vs an unlocked intl model...might be worth the wait to get an unlocked exynos next month than a carrier branded and bootloader locked device now (or within days...)
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The difference is a carrier branded model vs an unlocked intl model...might be worth the wait to get an unlocked exynos next month than a carrier branded and bootloader locked device now (or within days...)
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Yeah I'm realizing that now after I pre-ordered with a presumption that it would be unlocked. I cannot stand a locked bootloader with no root. Going to return it take a $50 hit for a restocking fee lick my wounds wait 2-3 weeks for the international version to come out.. they have them on Amazon already for $980 but you can't order until August 31st. I guess I'll play with this for 2 weeks before I return it cuz I'm getting charged $50 either way for a restocking fee whether I open the box or not... Plus China is getting a version with 6 gigabytes of RAM and 128 gigabytes of storage. That's what we were supposed to get the begin with from what I understand I've been waiting a year for this. I love the Note line..I have owned every Note ever made... in the last few years it feels like they add one thing and take away two! Samsung needs to be Samsung not copy or emulate Apple.. and also listen to the people because in the end it's us who spend our hard-earned money to buy these products they are now costing upwards to $1,000....if they don't... then I'll have to hit the lottery and start my own phone company with an S Pen...I'll call it Snapple....hahaha
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I actually called back a couple of times to get some kind of statistical honesty... Yeah I know.
Finally I spoke to someone high enough up the ladder who said, "the only people who know when the phones from Samsung will ship, are the corporate execs. Despite what anyone tells you, only carriers can release early, as the manufacturer, we just wait. However, if you did preorder early, you will get your phone around the 19th as we've been told."
It only took me 5 phone calls to get some honesty... Albeit bizarre honesty. ALL I WANTED WAS TO HEAR 'Hey man, I'm gonna ship your phone on Monday!"
BTW I also went with coral blue, ordered on 8/3
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DionWhite33 said:
Yeah I'm realizing that now after I pre-ordered with a presumption that it would be unlocked. I cannot stand a locked bootloader with no root. Going to return it take a $50 hit for a restocking fee lick my wounds wait 2-3 weeks for the international version to come out.. they have them on Amazon already for $980 but you can't order until August 31st. I guess I'll play with this for 2 weeks before I return it cuz I'm getting charged $50 either way for a restocking fee whether I open the box or not... Plus China is getting a version with 6 gigabytes of RAM and 128 gigabytes of storage. That's what we were supposed to get the begin with from what I understand I've been waiting a year for this. I love the Note line..I have owned every Note ever made... in the last few years it feels like they add one thing and take away two! Samsung needs to be Samsung not copy or emulate Apple.. and also listen to the people because in the end it's us who spend our hard-earned money to buy these products they are now costing upwards to $1,000....if they don't... then I'll have to hit the lottery and start my own phone company with an S Pen...I'll call it Snapple....hahaha
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Lol here's the deal- money talk and sh*t walks. Samsung will make WAY more money from idiots who haven't a clue what a bootloader even is thru samsung pay alone than what they'd lose if EVERY XDA member who's ever registered decided not to buy because of it...it's a no brainer for them. And as much as I've loved my Note devices (all of them since the N2) it's a real kick in the teeth smh makes me not want to buy one at all smh except I'll just wait on the 930F or get the Chinese 6gb model imported and activate on BYOD...
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Was at the T-MOBILE store when...

I was at the T-MOBILE store today in NY inquiring about the S7 edge when a gentle walked in and asked if they were still selling the note 7. To my surprise the employee said yes. She did tell him to not let it charge past 60% and if it feels like it's over heating that he can bring it in and exchange if for another phone.
I wanted to get the note 7 but amid this disaster regarding the second recall I thought it was irresponsible for T-Mobile to sell any more of them. Have we been so brainwashed by the media that the battery exploding is only happening to a small percentage of the note 7 out in the wild. When he asked and she said yes, I'll admit I was tempted to see if I could be one of the lucky ones to get a non defective note 7 bit then i came back to reality and said the headache is not worth the reward.
What gives T-MOBILE and why don't you have the damn pixel in your store? You know sometimes I wonder! It would've been a perfect landing spot regardless of what happened to the note 7!

saco274 said:
I was at the T-MOBILE store today in NY inquiring about the S7 edge when a gentle walked in and asked if they were still selling the note 7. To my surprise the employee said yes. She did tell him to not let it charge past 60% and if it feels like it's over heating that he can bring it in and exchange if for another phone.
I wanted to get the note 7 but amid this disaster regarding the second recall I thought it was irresponsible for T-Mobile to sell any more of them. Have we been so brainwashed by the media that the battery exploding is only happening to a small percentage of the note 7 out in the wild. When he asked and she said yes, I'll admit I was tempted to see if I could be one of the lucky ones to get a non defective note 7 bit then i came back to reality and said the headache is not worth the reward.
What gives T-MOBILE and why don't you have the damn pixel in your store? You know sometimes I wonder! It would've been a perfect landing spot regardless of what happened to the note 7!
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That T-Mobile employee was probably just an overworked, underpaid, and uninformed sales clerk. He/she could care less if you got a Note 7 or not.
The Pixel is a Verizon "exclusive". That's how the carrier system works in the US and it sucks. The rest of the world has electronic stores like Best Buy or OEM stores like Apple/Samsung/Microsoft where you can get your phones without dealing with carriers. You just buy a SIM of whichever carrier you want and pop a sim in, or you go into a carrier store to get your line, and they have no way to dictate to you what phones you can use.

Your probably right about there clerk but I hope the person who wanted is aware of what's happening, how could he not be. Also, I know I can take a Google purchased pixel and use it at T-MOBILE but it just seemed like the logical carrier that it should be on given how rapidly TMo has grow in the last few years. So would tmo sell the now 7 if someone wanted it? Would there be support for it?
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This ^&%$$%^ sucks man. Really sucks. I love my Note 7 but at this point I now feel I no longer have a choice now but to return it. Just heard the news about the DOT that there is a full ban now. You can be jailed and even fined now for trying to travel with it

harveydent said:
That T-Mobile employee was probably just an overworked, underpaid, and uninformed sales clerk. He/she could care less if you got a Note 7 or not.
The Pixel is a Verizon "exclusive". That's how the carrier system works in the US and it sucks. The rest of the world has electronic stores like Best Buy or OEM stores like Apple/Samsung/Microsoft where you can get your phones without dealing with carriers. You just buy a SIM of whichever carrier you want and pop a sim in, or you go into a carrier store to get your line, and they have no way to dictate to you what phones you can use.
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The pixel appears to be a tesla exclusive in Australia. Also you can buy unlocked phones at Best buy stateside. Or Amazon, or eBay, or expansys usa, the list goes on.
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saco274 said:
Your probably right about there clerk but I hope the person who wanted is aware of what's happening, how could he not be. Also, I know I can take a Google purchased pixel and use it at T-MOBILE but it just seemed like the logical carrier that it should be on given how rapidly TMo has grow in the last few years. So would tmo sell the now 7 if someone wanted it? Would there be support for it?
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The note 7 isn't for sale, did you see the purchase from beginning to end?
That sales person seems like an idiot because the Note 7 has been a huge goat rope for every carrier, if they don't know by now they shouldn't be selling it they might need a new line of work.

I did not see the sale I was just listening. I don't know if it happened to be honest with you.
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saco274 said:
Your probably right about there clerk but I hope the person who wanted is aware of what's happening, how could he not be. Also, I know I can take a Google purchased pixel and use it at T-MOBILE but it just seemed like the logical carrier that it should be on given how rapidly TMo has grow in the last few years. So would tmo sell the now 7 if someone wanted it? Would there be support for it?
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I've only been on T-Mobile for a couple of months but I don't see any history of them carrying the Nexus phones.

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I've only been on T-Mobile for a couple of months but I don't see any history of them carrying the Nexus phones.
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They carried the nexus 4. Also charged 150 more than the Google play store but you could pay on installments

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They carried the nexus 4. Also charged 150 more than the Google play store but you could pay on installments
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I read somewhere recently where the exclusive Verizon has to the Pixel may be short lived. I don't know that's because Google sees an opening with the Note 7 debacle to get their phone a broader customer base or whether that was part of the original agreement.
I'm keeping my Note 7 until at least the V20 comes out. It's the closest thing feature wise to the Note 7. I'd go Pixel in a New York minute if it had SD card capability.

Yeah I think I'm going with the V20. I just don't see the justification on spending $900 on the pixel right now. I'm going to wait for the 2nd pixel. Maybe TMo will cough up the loot to get it in there stores.
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douger1957 said:
I read somewhere recently where the exclusive Verizon has to the Pixel may be short lived. I don't know that's because Google sees an opening with the Note 7 debacle to get their phone a broader customer base or whether that was part of the original agreement.
I'm keeping my Note 7 until at least the V20 comes out. It's the closest thing feature wise to the Note 7. I'd go Pixel in a New York minute if it had SD card capability.
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Yeah im still pondering on the Pixel but the new name doesn't fool me. Never been super happy with Nexus batteries or cameras and every nexus phone had the best camera ever if you asked Google. Much like they are saying with the Pixel now.
Problem is unless you preorder you have to buy the 120 vr. I also need Wi-Fi calling at home :-/
I'd give up my card for a 128gb phone. I'm interested in the battery on the LG though.

pcriz said:
Yeah im still pondering on the Pixel but the new name doesn't fool me. Never been super happy with Nexus batteries or cameras and every nexus phone had the best camera ever if you asked Google. Much like they are saying with the Pixel now.
Problem is unless you preorder you have to buy the 120 vr. I also need Wi-Fi calling at home :-/
I'd give up my card for a 128gb phone. I'm interested in the battery on the LG though.
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I've got over 128 GB of music on that free 256 GB card that I got with the Note 7. With the V20 and it's supposed audio quality, I could load more .flac music up.
Then again, I could keep the S7 Edge they sent me as a loaner for the first recall. It shows as paid up on the T-Mobile website. It would work with the VR I claimed as part of that deal. Then again, I don't have the morals of an alley cat.

douger1957 said:
I read somewhere recently where the exclusive Verizon has to the Pixel may be short lived. I don't know that's because Google sees an opening with the Note 7 debacle to get their phone a broader customer base or whether that was part of the original agreement.
I'm keeping my Note 7 until at least the V20 comes out. It's the closest thing feature wise to the Note 7. I'd go Pixel in a New York minute if it had SD card capability.
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Might as well get an iPhone, they're doing the same thing: Charging too much (price) for too little (features). No way I'm buying that crap!

RaymondPJR said:
Might as well get an iPhone, they're doing the same thing: Charging too much (price) for too little (features). No way I'm buying that crap!
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Yeah man, I'm looking at what is offered and for that price I got so much more on the N7 and it's depressing. Also why the hell would you only offer 32 and 128gb.
The price makes it very hard to justify.