Hey guys my mind are messing with me, I'm so confused I had android since 2009 and now I'm thinking switching to iPhone 6+ bigger screen, I had all mobiles from HTC to Samsung, I'm afride If I'm going to buy note 4 it will be laggy on touchwiz plus they never update there phone, look at iPhone they update there iPhone 4 and it 4 years old, what do you think is this note 4 gonna be better choice?
Hey guys my mind are messing with me, I'm so confused I had android since 2009 and now I'm thinking switching to iPhone 6+ bigger screen, I had all mobiles from HTC to Samsung, I'm afride If I'm going to buy note 4 it will be laggy on touchwiz plus they never update there phone, look at iPhone they update there iPhone 4 and it 4 years old, what do you think is this note 4 gonna be better choice?
Don't get me wrong I am not fan of company, I just buy what deserves to be bought and fits my requirement, but iphone 6+ is not worth the money that's for sure, you might buy it only if you're a big fool and love to show off an expensive sh*t to your friends, better go with Note 4. And what makes you call touchwiz laggy? I had the Note 3 I never saw any touchwiz lag and with new gen of touchwiz it should be butter smooth, tho I can be wrong as I haven't used the new touchwiz just yet but I feel it will be smooth and Samsung does updates their phone, rest your choice.
Stay with Android. Trust me.
If you're thinking about gettibg a iPhone 6 why not consider a nexus 4. ???
Stay with android. After Android L update you will get speed boost.
If they weren't so grossly overpriced (over $1000 with tax for the highest range 6+, I mean come on), I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the new iPhones. For pretty much everyone I know, their lackluster specs are all they really need. But seeing as how you're on XDA, the Note 4 is without question the better option.
I bought the 6+ and note 3 and to be honest it actually sucks. I have had iphones and note series from day 1.
The 6+ feels cheap. the siftware has issues. Not all of them are optimized so it feels like when the ipad was released. Apps looked zoomed in. I will get rid of this and get a note for sure. It just has so much more to offer than the iphone.
jasonleb1 said:
If they weren't so grossly overpriced (over $1000 with tax for the highest range 6+, I mean come on), I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss the new iPhones. For pretty much everyone I know, their lackluster specs are all they really need. But seeing as how you're on XDA, the Note 4 is without question the better option.
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I don't care about phones getting dropped from updates after a couple years for a couple reasons. First off old devices on new software (I'm speaking about iOS) run like a bag of ****. My sister is using my old 4 and it runs like garbage. Secondly most people don't keep a phone for more then 2 years anyway so updates become irrelevant.
iPhones are great if you don't mind paying a premium for outdated hardware on a platform that is always behind Android. Apple does provide a fantastic warranty though, I'll give them that. Granted my S3 has never had issues and in my circle iPhones seem to be more problematic (that may not mean anything though).
For me Android is about flexibility and features that are years ahead of anything on an iPhone (for the most part). I'm patiently waiting to replace my aging S3 with a Note 4 because I believe it is the best phone of 2014.
If you get the 6+, all you see is a bigger screen, no more no less, now even with the big screen the quality is still not compare to the note4. The note4 which I have read many reviews, they all stated that it has zero lags (using snapdragon chip instead of Exynos) and the more you're going to use the phone, you will appreciate all the new features of the note4, like wide angle front camera, super smooth Spen, mutitask/multiscreen. Multitask/multiscreen is a big deal for me, imagine, while you on the phone talking, you could search the web, looking for something, circle it open messager, paste and send. Basically you could open multiple apps and flip through them like on your PC. Iphone is way lack of multitasking (none), this is one feature where note 4 is on the top. Now you should ask yourself, with the iphone beside a bigger screen what else can you do???
I thought about the 6+... no I actually stayed up, pre-ordered, but cancelled it. While 6+ is a very nice phone, I am pretty sure the next iOS update will cripple it. Apple is pushing for software optimization while staying 1GB of RAM, I have to say it is enough for now, but higher screen resolution and richer multimedia content will push the it to the limit, doesn't matter how they freeze the app while it is in background, the next time you relaunch it, it will restart the app instead of resuming it, the same problem we saw with earlier Windows Phone. The next version of iOS might even be more useful (common Apple, give us default app option, and lock screen rotation per app), I will stick with Note 4 for this year around.
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If you get the 6+, all you see is a bigger screen, no more no less, now even with the big screen the quality is still not compare to the note4. The note4 which I have read many reviews, they all stated that it has zero lags (using snapdragon chip instead of Exynos) and the more you're going to use the phone, you will appreciate all the new features of the note4, like wide angle front camera, super smooth Spen, mutitask/multiscreen. Multitask/multiscreen is a big deal for me, imagine, while you on the phone talking, you could search the web, looking for something, circle it open messager, paste and send. Basically you could open multiple apps and flip through them like on your PC. Iphone is way lack of multitasking (none), this is one feature where note 4 is on the top. Now you should ask yourself, with the iphone beside a bigger screen what else can you do???
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I agree on that Sir, but I'm just tired of touchwiz being laggy and they don't support there phone like apple do, I've heard that google gonna take over the update for all android let's hope it true but again am 95% of buying the note and the 5% is the annoying 6+
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Stay with android. After Android L update you will get speed boost.
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We can bet on that the L only coming for note 5 and s6 it always like that on Samsung devices
I got the iPhone 6, not the + but I saw it in store today. Although it's a nice phone the note 4 is the better device without a doubt. Just put the hype aside, you'll see that the note is the clear winner.
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The Note 4 was my next phone of choice. I have now seen the Plus. Tbh these phones offer a different user experience. One is not necessarily better than the other. There are features on both that are unique. It really is a difficult call. I want to see evidence of both cameras in use. Not available yet. And full features of both. But features versus user experiences are two different things.
saifullah90 said:
I agree on that Sir, but I'm just tired of touchwiz being laggy and they don't support there phone like apple do, I've heard that google gonna take over the update for all android let's hope it true but again am 95% of buying the note and the 5% is the annoying 6+
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Touchwiz on note4 is super smooth, no lags based on all the review I read. The beauty with Android is ton of options/customization, you always can just pick another launcher ) , throw in another feature to convince you - super charge 0-50% in 30min and super power saving mode give you 2 more days with only10% battery capacity left. The list just goes on and on...BTW, I believe Android L will be on note 4 when it released. Based on the history, the S3 which is 2 generation old and it's running on kitkat right now, so I'm sure Android L will be on the note 4.
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Touchwiz on note4 is super smooth, no lags based on all the review I read. The beauty with Android is ton of options/customization, you always can just pick another launcher ) , throw in another feature to convince you - super charge 0-50% in 30min and super power saving mode give you 2 more days with only10% battery capacity left. The list just goes on and on...BTW, I believe Android L will be on note 4 when it released. Based on the history, the S3 which is 2 generation old and it's running on kitkat right now, so I'm sure Android L will be on the note 4.
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Touchwiz will lag. It always has, and always will. That's not to say that the note 4 won't be great.. Samsung just adds so many useless features, and makes the ui look trashy.... So it weighs down the interface. I'm ecstatic with what the note 4 brings, and the fact that it releases on my birthday.. Happy birthday to me!! Ha! Also, L may not come to the Note 4. It takes Samsung too long to catch up to Google with firmware.. And then you have carriers that get their grubby hands on it. If it comes? Awesome! Just means it needs more optimization.. Cuz art
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they did a camera test ip6/+ vs S5 and the s5 won ,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNAHv-E1HWU
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Hey guys my mind are messing with me, I'm so confused I had android since 2009 and now I'm thinking switching to iPhone 6+ bigger screen, I had all mobiles from HTC to Samsung, I'm afride If I'm going to buy note 4 it will be laggy on touchwiz plus they never update there phone, look at iPhone they update there iPhone 4 and it 4 years old, what do you think is this note 4 gonna be better choice?
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Yeah well these are pro Android forums so...
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I would get G3 ?
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Dunno were to post this but here goes..
This post is targeted at people that are thinking of getting an iPhone 6 plus instead of an Note 4
I consider myself a demanding picky hard core user..
I hate lag.. I notice it straight away.. delay and unresponsiveness drives me crazy.. I've always owned Samsung devices since the Galaxy S 1. and as much as I loved the OMLED's on Galaxy devices.. I always overclocked or modified. I did everything to make the device run as smoothly as possible.. (Like all of us here on XDA )
So far my old Note 2 running a heavily modified rom, ran wonderfully.. When the Note 3 was announced I had to get it.. The first thing I noticed with the phone was the screen throttling.. IT DROVE ME CRAZY! .. well suffice to say with firmware upgrades and tweaking.. that minimized.. lagging and multitasking delays improved immensely with time as firmware matured. I eventually settled with it's lag and delays because I love the flexibility of android & my 5.7inch screen..
That was until the iPhone6+ was announced.. I immediately remembered posts from iSheeple as to how smooth iOS is and how well crafted and great the Apps are..
I was bedazzled at the magical announcement.. and jumped ship as soon as the pre-order was up..
I got the iPhone 6+ on the 19th and bought a case. I quickly upgraded my 2014 Macbook Air to Yosemite (GM) the following week so that I could use call hand off and and all the magical interoperability promised by apple.. I changed all my contacts to iCloud and embraced the apple Eco-system.
anyway.. I'm not going to bash Yosemite because it's in Beta.. but man.. let me just say.. iOS8.0.2 ? what a piece of crap!
Continuous lag, freezing, stuttering, rotation problems. keyboard freezes (sometimes I'll have to wait for 5min to finish inputting a text) .. things like facetime calls ringing out upside down?? .. SCREEN THROTTLING !!!! NNNOOO stuff this.. I can't do this again especially after I've let apple put restrictions on me with stupid iTunes.
there's so much I can go on with like my Macbook not auto connecting to the iPhone hotspot unless I enter the setting menu.. the reachability feature is stupid.. I missed the back button. 1gig of Ram? Can people say Browser refresh?
Don't believe the hype.. iCrap aint the answer.. I'm not a fanboy I just want a usable feature filled phone and I'm willing to pay for it.
I've said enough.. any questions I'll happily accommodate. I'm getting my Note 4 in 4 days.. can't wait..
Now if you excuse me I'm going to make a profit on Selling my iPhone 6+ on eBay to the iSheeple
Hahaha good review of iPhone 6+ and iOS8.
Wecome aboard the Note 4 train, I hope you find it better than the iPhone. I know I can't wait for mine, been visiting the nearby Samsung Store every day to play around with the Note 4 on display lol.
Hey Bro.
Have you noticed any screen throttling? can you push it hard for me and see if it dims please.
I only played around with it for like 5-10 minutes a time, playing with brightness (they set it to Max, not Auto), tried dimming, Auto, tested the S Pen, etc. So far nothing lagged, nothing weird happening on the screen, and it was running Snapdragon.
If you want to have something tested, better head to DelBoy's thread, he's accepting people's tests requests on his Note 4.
Hahhhahaha....
I hated Only two things on iPhone 6+
1. Reachability
(What is this? Nothing in it except lowered screen. If you copies 5.5 inch screen trend, then copy One Handed Mode like samsung as well...sammy is not a sue machine like you )
2. 1 GB RAM (Is it joke!!!...or is it spice, karbon or other chinese brand)
(No mater how well crafted your UI is, but nowadays 2 GB ram is mandatory for 1080p screens)
Compare both things with Note 4
You will say f**** Ass-ple!
I phone 6 and + should be compared with Android One
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Reachability is a magical feature.. what a joke..
I have an iPhone 6 64GB and I'm really considering getting rid of it, and going back to Android.
As mentioned iOS 8.0.2 is a disaster.
Alot of apps still haven't been updated to the new screen sizes so looked blurry.
My iPhone 6 came out of a box with a full length hairline scratch across the top of screen, that Apple won't change it as it classed as cosmetic even though it came out of the box like this.... they think i did it :/, other's are reporting scratched screens aswell as it very easy to scratch the coating on this, I've never yet scratched a screen on my smartphone.
If you are even considering getting an iPhone 6 please don't bother you only be disappointed.
Even with the scratch i could easily make my £619 back if not more.
So i might go back with the S5 while it cheaper and save some money or buy either the Alpha or the Note 4 after i've seen them.
Are you serious or not? I never use Apple before and I dont plan to. But this is one of few times I heard Apple suck. Maybe I should go to the Apple store to check it out.
aahhh the isheep will pay you well for the phone..
let emm have it.. come back like I am..
chong67 said:
Are you serious or not? I never use Apple before and I don't plan to. But this is one of few times I heard Apple suck. Maybe I should go to the Apple store to check it out.
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The thing is.. at the store, things look fine..
It's one of those things were you just have to own the device to know just how rubbish it is..
Don't even bother my friend.. nothing here to see except tears and frustration..
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Are you serious or not? I never use Apple before and I dont plan to. But this is one of few times I heard Apple suck. Maybe I should go to the Apple store to check it out.
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Since iOS 7 they have gone down hill it took till 7.1.2 before everybody was happy with iOS 7, 3 months later we back to square one with iOS 8.
They brought iOS 8.0.1 out that killed both touch ID and reception on the iPhone 6, basically couldn't make a phone call, 8.0.2 fixed that problem but didn't fix the most complained about bugs like slow wifi ect.
I feel it once again take till the end of iOS 8 life before it fully usable where people are happy, then you have to go though it all again with iOS 9.
Once apon a time buying into Apple was a safe buy in both hardware and software, these days they just plagued with problem after problem with both hardware and software, if you ever think life greener on the Apple side then think again.
Android now is the better platform to be on, and I soon think alot of disgruntled Apple fans "not fanboys" will probably be thinking the same now.
One more thing :laugh:
Before we knew about the specs of the iPhone 6 i said on macrumors forums that both the iphone 6 and 6 Plus will only come with 1GB of ram, the amount of abuse i got from the fanboys saying i'm talking ****, it have 2GB
those same people are now saying well it doesn't need 2GB of ram, and are still defending Apple to the bitter end even after all the problems inc the bending iPhone 6 Plus which some are saying it fake & won't belive it really happening :/
well if you want smooth and fast experience you got to try nexus series,I carry nexus 5 now I love it,I jumped from note 2 to nexus 5 last year and still its fast and smooth as on day 1,though the battery life is average..
gaurav2009 said:
well if you want smooth and fast experience you got to try nexus series,I carry nexus 5 now I love it,I jumped from note 2 to nexus 5 last year and still its fast and smooth as on day 1,though the battery life is average..
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I owned the Nexus 5 and I hated the screen and battery life. It was fast and smooth of course without a doubt. The camera was also meh. Not horrible but not great either.
For me, I would rather have the awesome AMOLED that the S5 and Note 4 provide, better battery life and deal with a half second delay here and there.
None Bias review from 2swizzle....
I just sold my note 3 and got the iphone 6 plus.. I did it because I got it for a steal of a deal, Note 3 +200 for iphone 6+ 64gb.. I knew the resale value would be greater of the iphone 6+ and easier to sell. The iphone is a an awesome phone, the build is solid and it super fast with all the bugs it has in 8.0.2. Also the camera is really nice, you wouldn't think 8mp would take great pictures but it does!!!
With that said, I'm going to buy the note 4 on the 17th, and sale the iphone. I've been in the android world since the sprint evo, before then and after I've had every iphone, ipad, and I program on a macbook retina. The iphone restrictions drive me crazy, I hate itunes, I prefer to drag and drop files of any format to my android devices. I have unlimited data and want my hotspot back(without paying $30 extra). Although I know touchwiz will suck balls, and us in the US probably won't get custom roms now that hashcode has retired. As long as I can get root, I will be happy with the note 4.
Fade777 said:
Dunno were to post this but here goes..
This post is targeted at people that are thinking of getting an iPhone 6 plus instead of an Note 4
I consider myself a demanding picky hard core user..
I hate lag.. I notice it straight away.. delay and unresponsiveness drives me crazy.. I've always owned Samsung devices since the Galaxy S 1. and as much as I loved the OMLED's on Galaxy devices.. I always overclocked or modified. I did everything to make the device run as smoothly as possible.. (Like all of us here on XDA )
So far my old Note 2 running a heavily modified rom, ran wonderfully.. When the Note 3 was announced I had to get it.. The first thing I noticed with the phone was the screen throttling.. IT DROVE ME CRAZY! .. well suffice to say with firmware upgrades and tweaking.. that minimized.. lagging and multitasking delays improved immensely with time as firmware matured. I eventually settled with it's lag and delays because I love the flexibility of android & my 5.7inch screen..
That was until the iPhone6+ was announced.. I immediately remembered posts from iSheeple as to how smooth iOS is and how well crafted and great the Apps are..
I was bedazzled at the magical announcement.. and jumped ship as soon as the pre-order was up..
I got the iPhone 6+ on the 19th and bought a case. I quickly upgraded my 2014 Macbook Air to Yosemite (GM) the following week so that I could use call hand off and and all the magical interoperability promised by apple.. I changed all my contacts to iCloud and embraced the apple Eco-system.
anyway.. I'm not going to bash Yosemite because it's in Beta.. but man.. let me just say.. iOS8.0.2 ? what a piece of crap!
Continuous lag, freezing, stuttering, rotation problems. keyboard freezes (sometimes I'll have to wait for 5min to finish inputting a text) .. things like facetime calls ringing out upside down?? .. SCREEN THROTTLING !!!! NNNOOO stuff this.. I can't do this again especially after I've let apple put restrictions on me with stupid iTunes.
there's so much I can go on with like my Macbook not auto connecting to the iPhone hotspot unless I enter the setting menu.. the reachability feature is stupid.. I missed the back button. 1gig of Ram? Can people say Browser refresh?
Don't believe the hype.. iCrap aint the answer.. I'm not a fanboy I just want a usable feature filled phone and I'm willing to pay for it.
I've said enough.. any questions I'll happily accommodate. I'm getting my Note 4 in 4 days.. can't wait..
Now if you excuse me I'm going to make a profit on Selling my iPhone 6+ on eBay to the iSheeple
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Kind of hard to give ios a fare shake when you go in full of preconceived notions, wouldn't you say?
nohcho said:
Kind of hard to give ios a fare shake when you go in full of preconceived notions, wouldn't you say?
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I agree totally. :highfive: I've had about every high end Android phone over the last couple of years. I sold my G3 and purchased the 6 Plus. It really is a great phone and iOS 8 is fantastic, but I also have the Note 4 on preorder. It was a hard decision, but the 6 Plus was returned tonight. The difference in the screen and multitasking were the death of the 6 Plus for me.
It's also hard to take someone seriously when they're calling people names just because they prefer an OS that isn't they're favorite. IMO they lose all credibility.
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Kind of hard to give ios a fare shake when you go in full of preconceived notions, wouldn't you say?
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The only preconceived notions I had were directed by my experiance with my wife's phone and according to my post. All the wonderfull magical posts on other sites regarding the smoothness and the responsiveness of iOS. So my notions were nothing but positive.
That said. iOS 8.0.2 is absolute trash. And with the time I've spend on IOS forums I'd say that a vast majoraty of iOS users are frustrated at apples lack of testing.
There is nothing great about the phone. Nothing revolutionary. Nothing but playing catch up with Samsung. I've given it more then a fair shake. Considering the limitations imposed by to the hardware and the end user the utter frustration using iOS in its current form is crazy.
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I agree totally. :highfive: I've had about every high end Android phone over the last couple of years. I sold my G3 and purchased the 6 Plus. It really is a great phone and iOS 8 is fantastic, but I also have the Note 4 on preorder. It was a hard decision, but the 6 Plus was returned tonight. The difference in the screen and multitasking were the death of the 6 Plus for me.
It's also hard to take someone seriously when they're calling people names just because they prefer an OS that isn't they're favorite. IMO they lose all credibility.
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Who did I call names
Are you telling me that there's no such group of people that exist that may be labeled as brand loyalists?
People that will cling to an system even though its superseded by another feature rich system?
People that can't see other solutions becasue they're one eyed FANS. :cyclops:
people that will happily pay me $200 AU MORE for a phone just because it's an iPhone?
iSheep that's what you call those people..
I'm hoping to test out the Note 4 soon as well. I got to have a run on the Iphone 6 though. It was a friends device so I couldn't spend excessive amount of time on it.
Test day 1: Found it very laggy even though there was hardly anything on it. Spent about 2hours on it all and all and told my friend I'll look into solutions for the buggy behaviour of the phone. Couldn't recommend any solutions, I'm not familiar with iPhones, Android guy myself.
Test day 2: Unfortunately I couldn't test the device on day 2 as my friend, out of frustration and anger, hours before I arrived, tossed the phone to pieces against the wall. He was on headache meds and sounded like a sailor gone to war with all the F bombs he dropped.
I lightened his mood a bit by suggesting that he rather get the Nexus 4 as it has similar features.
Will report back when I get the chance to test the Note 4.
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Having used the 5S for more than a year, I decided to get the 6 Plus. I found that phone very uncomfortable to hold, unlike the Note series. I will be blunt though, the return factor was mostly the horrible lag throughout the UI. Very un Apple like. I am glad I have not upgraded my 5S to 8. It's THAT bad. I then ordered the 6 as I read it was better. WRONG. The lag is still there. Its awful. So I'm like why did I spend all this $$$ on a device that only gives me a larger screen??? Totally NOT worth the horrible price tag.
So yea thats my experience. I like devices that work. I may hold onto my 5S for a while, I don't know. I'll have to check out the Note 4, but it looks promising.
Oh and yeah its funny how all the iSheep pretend their devices are perfect and run so smoothly. Yeah.
I am a long time Verizon customer, and after a horrible customer service issue yesterday......I am looking to switch to AT&T.
I've been on the Note 3 since October of 2013 and absolutely love the device. Since Vzw is so behind releasing devices, if I switch to AT&T I am open to two devices I am interested in.......the Note Edge and the N6. Anyone of you come from a Note to the N6, that has owned/used the N6 long enough to give me some feedback, pros/cons? I am reading a lot of negative when comparing the cameras......but am aware the N6 is vastly improved from previous. One thing I really am most concerned about is screen clarity. Just hoped for anyones direct feedback that came from a Note and is live with their N6.
Concerns:
Screen clarity,colors, overall brilliance. Samsung has been superior IMO for the last few years. My Galaxy S Fascinate, my S3, now my N3......all in my opinion had the best appearance than any comparable phone on the market at the time of their release. It is one of the biggest deciding factors I've base my devices around for the last several years. I don't want to go backwards if the N6 is noticeably less.
No external memory slot. Even though I've had an issue with the last 3 Samsung devices involving the SD card, its still nice to have that storage available, especially when storing ROM's and backup data.
No removable battery. Again going back to flashing ROM's, I'm used to devices with removable batteries.....which is critical in some cases needing to do a battery pull. Perhaps you Nexus fans can reassure me this is a non-issue.....
TIA
LXative said:
I am a long time Verizon customer, and after a horrible customer service issue yesterday......I am looking to switch to AT&T.
I've been on the Note 3 since October of 2013 and absolutely love the device. Since Vzw is so behind releasing devices, if I switch to AT&T I am open to two devices I am interested in.......the Note Edge and the N6. Anyone of you come from a Note to the N6, that has owned/used the N6 long enough to give me some feedback, pros/cons? I am reading a lot of negative when comparing the cameras......but am aware the N6 is vastly improved from previous. One thing I really am most concerned about is screen clarity. Just hoped for anyones direct feedback that came from a Note and is live with their N6.
TIA
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I have the note 4 and gave it to my wife when the nexus came out. To be honest I regret it Note is way better display. Camera yes improved but Note is better then N6.
I had the Note 3 for a year. It was absolutely my favorite device I had owned yet. The Note series is great, one can't deny. I loved the large powerful device. I was so close to buying the Note 4, until I found out the Nexus 6 was coming with a 6" display. It was a no-brainer for me. I rarely ever used the spen so that wasn't a factor. I couldn't stand the idea of a rear facing speaker so the forward facing speakers on the N6 was a big plus. Power wise, well they are both power houses so no factor. Touchwiz vs pure Android, well for me pure Android was a big plus. Design of the N6 is very appealing to me. I don't have a preference, nor could I tell you the difference in the displays, They both look good to me. I can say from the Note 3 to the N6, the screen quality is at least as good. I have zero complaints with the camera. I mean it's a phone; if I want professional photos then I would use a camera. I guess in the end it's user preference but you asked for opinions/experiences so I thought I'd share mine. I don't regret nor even think about my decision to go with the N6. It's what I wanted.
Huge discussion here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/note-4-vs-nexus-6-t2906800
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I have the note 4 and gave it to my wife when the nexus came out. To be honest I regret it Note is way better display. Camera yes improved but Note is better then N6.
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Thanks.
b.huss2 said:
I had the Note 3 for a year. It was absolutely my favorite device I had owned yet. The Note series is great, one can't deny. I loved the large powerful device. I was so close to buying the Note 4, until I found out the Nexus 6 was coming with a 6" display. It was a no-brainer for me. I rarely ever used the spen so that wasn't a factor. I couldn't stand the idea of a rear facing speaker so the forward facing speakers on the N6 was a big plus. Power wise, well they are both power houses so no factor. Touchwiz vs pure Android, well for me pure Android was a big plus. Design of the N6 is very appealing to me. I don't have a preference, nor could I tell you the difference in the displays, They both look good to me. I can say from the Note 3 to the N6, the screen quality is at least as good. I have zero complaints with the camera. I mean it's a phone; if I want professional photos then I would use a camera. I guess in the end it's user preference but you asked for opinions/experiences so I thought I'd share mine. I don't regret nor even think about my decision to go with the N6. It's what I wanted.
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Good feedback. The first reply definitely was a pretty clear opinion, but I'm happy to see a counter for the N6 with yours. I'm definitely going to go hands-on in a store tonight, but for those of you who have the N6 I feel can give better feedback since you are more adapted already.
Getting ready to add two more concerns to my OP .........keep the replies coming. :good:
The N4 screen is brighter and cooler than the Nexus, but doesn't really offer any clarity benefit to me. It would be a better performer in direct sunlight though. I had both in hand for a couple weeks and in the end the Nexus was the right device for me. I prefer a stock android build and noticed many of the Samsung additions I either ignored or turned off. Your best bet is to think about the things that are important to you and then get some time in store with both to gain an understanding of how each devices handles those things. To me it came down to the fact that touchwiz just felt heavy (although it has come a very long way) and i wasn't really utilizing the S-pen the way i thought I would. I also like the ability to have access to factory images and the strong developer support within the Nexus community.
You cant go wrong with either though. I didn't dislike the Note, I just like the Nexus more
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A ton of info surely in there, but that was pre-release for both devs. Surely there are hands-on replies in the current end, but that is a lot of sifting. I'll keep browsing it in daytime if I can't get what info I am content with here though, thanks. :good:
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Thanks.
Good feedback. The first reply definitely was a pretty clear opinion, but I'm happy to see a counter for the N6 with yours. I'm definitely going to go hands-on in a store tonight, but for those of you who have the N6 I feel can give better feedback since you are more adapted already.
Getting ready to add two more concerns to my OP .........keep the replies coming. :good:
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I have no concern about the storage. I am on the cloud for years now. All my pic and music on the drive and good music. once I feel the storage are full which I never seen it I clear my storage.
Battery on the note 4 is better. You can get almost 5 to 5 and half hours SOT. On the other hand nexus will get about 4 hours SOT.
I haven't owned a Note, but I've played with a few. Most recently, I handled a Note Edge for a bit over the weekend. It is definitely a nice device. Did it have a bunch of features that made it a clear winner over the Nexus? No. The edge display, although a nice touch, felt rather gimmicky and overall not very useful. I also had problems with Touchwiz not responding properly to the stylus input. Maybe someone broke the stylus, but from what I've heard and seen about Touchwiz, my first impression was that it was bugging out. The rear-facing mono speaker sucks in comparison. Also I didn't notice anything special about the display.
In fact, I love the warmer color temperature of the Nexus 6. I'm surrounded by overly-cool LCD displays and fluorescent lighting in my office. The warmer colors of the Nexus 6 were a welcomed sight. Let's not forget that natural colors are actually warmer than your standard LCD display, and it's my opinion that the Nexus 6's display produces more true-to-life color than any of my LCDs, and the overly blue tint to Samsung devices.
There's no doubt that some may find the extra features of the Spen and Touchwiz interface a "better" experience, and some go ape**** over the changeable battery and SD slot, but are those few features worth the higher premium of a Samsung? No, not in my opinion.
I switched from Note 3 to Nexus 6. Enjoyed the Note 3 a lot, but there where some things I disliked a lot.
1) these capacitive buttons are horrible. When using mhl adapter with TV you have no buttons on TV. They take a lot of space. Display buttons extend the display when watching videos or looking at pictures.
2) touchwiz. great - these features like multi window. I used them twice because they really are cool, but never again.
3) I liked the spen a lot. But after switching to Evernote I simply stopped using it.
4) Samsung & updates. *shakehead* when Samsung releases 5.0 for Note 4, Google releases 5.1. Let's not talk about when update will come to Note 3 which is one year old. Yes - I know. There is a beta from India you can flash but if you NEED your phone, will you flash a beta? It is simply horrible, that a one year old device is not treated the same in regards of updates as the current flagship. Everybody who pays 700€ for his Note 4 today has to keep in mind, that his phone will be treated as "old" in just one year. And it is even worse with the updates for tablets.
the hardware Samsung makes is the best on the market, but I want to keep my phone longer then one year.
I have my Nexus 6 now and am quite happy with it.
Greetings,
Elmar
I bought the Note 4 at T-Mobile the day it came out and I returned it after 2 weeks.
At first, it was great. Loved all the S Pen features. But then, I started noticing lag and stuttering thanks to TouchWiz. I rooted and debloated it, but it still had lag that I wasn't comfortable with. Other people are saying they don't notice it, but I returned it and bought the N6 when it came out. And I haven't looked back.
I've had 2 of every note for my wife and I on at. If you absolutely need to flash and tinker go with the n6 its a great device. Otherwise I would stick with the note if you don't mind stock touchwiz. There is almost no Dev support on the 3 due to locked bootloaders and I don't think the 4 will be any better. All you can flash on the 3 is variants of stock and only with safe strap installed. Hashcode who developed safestrap no longer supports it so for the 4 there would need to be a new Dev working on things if that method will even work.
Tldr if you need to flash and mod go n6 if not go note 4. You have even less of a chance at Dev support on the edge. But they are all great devices!!
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The Note 3 is what I have had experience with as I have owned it since it came out last year. I haven't gotten the chance to play with the Note 4 but what I can say is that the Note series never disappoints.
As far as the carrier goes I really wouldn't recommend going with AT&T or Verizon because if you are looking to root your phone and flash roms it will be a hassle to do because of the locked bootloader. I recommend you go on the T-Mobile network instead.
I say the Nexus 6 and Note 4 are great devices they both have the same snapdragon 805 chip among other things so the difference would be whether you want touchwiz or not.
DON'T FORGET if you can afford it, T-Mobile unlocked devices will work on att so there is that option. Also Verizon offer developer versions of the notes that aren't locked but are full price up front.
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I had the note 3 and 4 on vzw, got the note 4 on release day and had it till I got my n6 3 weeks ago. I loved my note devices but I noticed some lag on them over time not bad by any means but more like hiccups. Always put on Nova launcher bc I hated touchwiz. Screen was brighter on note 4 but I don't mind the n6 screen. Camera at night isn't as good but in daylight the n6 focuses faster than the note 4. For what I like the n6 is the phone for me.
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I own a T Mobile Note 4 and using on AT&T network. It works great with no issues.
I ordered a Nexus 6 with Friday delivery so can't fairly compare yet.
A few Note 4 things.
1. FireKat custom rom has made all the difference. It is stock TW tweaked to perfection. No lag and battery last 5 to 6 hours of SOT.
2. Screen on Note 4 is incredible.
3. We did get CM12 on Note 4.
I had a Note 3 until may of this year when I got my G3 which I still have. The Nexus is leaps and bounds past the Note.
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I haven't owned a Note, but I've played with a few. Most recently, I handled a Note Edge for a bit over the weekend. It is definitely a nice device. Did it have a bunch of features that made it a clear winner over the Nexus? No. The edge display, although a nice touch, felt rather gimmicky and overall not very useful. I also had problems with Touchwiz not responding properly to the stylus input. Maybe someone broke the stylus, but from what I've heard and seen about Touchwiz, my first impression was that it was bugging out. The rear-facing mono speaker sucks in comparison. Also I didn't notice anything special about the display.
In fact, I love the warmer color temperature of the Nexus 6. I'm surrounded by overly-cool LCD displays and fluorescent lighting in my office. The warmer colors of the Nexus 6 were a welcomed sight. Let's not forget that natural colors are actually warmer than your standard LCD display, and it's my opinion that the Nexus 6's display produces more true-to-life color than any of my LCDs, and the overly blue tint to Samsung devices.
There's no doubt that some may find the extra features of the Spen and Touchwiz interface a "better" experience, and some go ape**** over the changeable battery and SD slot, but are those few features worth the higher premium of a Samsung? No, not in my opinion.
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The brilliance of the colors on the Galaxy phones is actually my preference. I am a hobby/amateur photographer, so I always have tons of my favorite pictures on my phone. Being you can actually control the tones/contrast settings.......that is all user interface, your preference. I've never noticed any blue tinting to any of my last several Samsung devices, interesting to hear that from another perspective. Thanks for posting up your experience, these are the kinds of posts I am looking for. :good:
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I switched from Note 3 to Nexus 6. Enjoyed the Note 3 a lot, but there where some things I disliked a lot.
1) these capacitive buttons are horrible. When using mhl adapter with TV you have no buttons on TV. They take a lot of space. Display buttons extend the display when watching videos or looking at pictures.
2) touchwiz. great - these features like multi window. I used them twice because they really are cool, but never again.
3) I liked the spen a lot. But after switching to Evernote I simply stopped using it.
4) Samsung & updates. *shakehead* when Samsung releases 5.0 for Note 4, Google releases 5.1. Let's not talk about when update will come to Note 3 which is one year old. Yes - I know. There is a beta from India you can flash but if you NEED your phone, will you flash a beta? It is simply horrible, that a one year old device is not treated the same in regards of updates as the current flagship. Everybody who pays 700€ for his Note 4 today has to keep in mind, that his phone will be treated as "old" in just one year. And it is even worse with the updates for tablets.
the hardware Samsung makes is the best on the market, but I want to keep my phone longer then one year.
I have my Nexus 6 now and am quite happy with it.
Greetings,
Elmar
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Outstanding, this is a direct comparison for me.....since I'd be making the same change. And actually your 4 points directly relate to myself and my own preferences/experiences too. Thank you. :good:
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I bought the Note 4 at T-Mobile the day it came out and I returned it after 2 weeks.
At first, it was great. Loved all the S Pen features. But then, I started noticing lag and stuttering thanks to TouchWiz. I rooted and debloated it, but it still had lag that I wasn't comfortable with. Other people are saying they don't notice it, but I returned it and bought the N6 when it came out. And I haven't looked back.
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I've had a few hangups here and there, and started out swearing I'd remain stock/OTA only (like a lot of us on here do). After about 3-4 months, and the lack of updates (thanks Verizon), I rooted. Of course limited due to being locked down, but the experience even without AOSP based ROM's was much better than stock. And I've always used APEX Launcher to avoid TouchJizz. Glad to see the N6 answered your concerns though, definitely adds to the +++ side for me.
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I've had 2 of every note for my wife and I on at. If you absolutely need to flash and tinker go with the n6 its a great device. Otherwise I would stick with the note if you don't mind stock touchwiz. There is almost no Dev support on the 3 due to locked bootloaders and I don't think the 4 will be any better. All you can flash on the 3 is variants of stock and only with safe strap installed. Hashcode who developed safestrap no longer supports it so for the 4 there would need to be a new Dev working on things if that method will even work.
Tldr if you need to flash and mod go n6 if not go note 4. You have even less of a chance at Dev support on the edge. But they are all great devices!!
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I like exploring different ROM's for sure. I really can't understand why carriers lock their devices down and offer little or no different customizations. It'd be a different story if they would see what changes the dev's make (that we want) and give OTA options of the same. Even as simple as a toggle for flashlight.......
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The Note 3 is what I have had experience with as I have owned it since it came out last year. I haven't gotten the chance to play with the Note 4 but what I can say is that the Note series never disappoints.
As far as the carrier goes I really wouldn't recommend going with AT&T or Verizon because if you are looking to root your phone and flash roms it will be a hassle to do because of the locked bootloader. I recommend you go on the T-Mobile network instead.
I say the Nexus 6 and Note 4 are great devices they both have the same snapdragon 805 chip among other things so the difference would be whether you want touchwiz or not.
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I would be all over T-Mobile if they had service where I work. But T-Mobile has no data where I live OR work......so unfortunately it is not an option for me. I am limited to Verizon towers and AT&T towers only.
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DON'T FORGET if you can afford it, T-Mobile unlocked devices will work on att so there is that option. Also Verizon offer developer versions of the notes that aren't locked but are full price up front.
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If my own ignorance to this option of T-mob device compatibility on AT&T networks, I would have purchased my last device from them. Verizon has stuck it to me hard with my Note 3 and their customer service, and being I paid outright for this Note 3......its going to be hard for me to justify dropping that cheese on another device outright. Definitely will keep that in mind though, maybe even if I decide to shop Swappa. :good:
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I had the note 3 and 4 on vzw, got the note 4 on release day and had it till I got my n6 3 weeks ago. I loved my note devices but I noticed some lag on them over time not bad by any means but more like hiccups. Always put on Nova launcher bc I hated touchwiz. Screen was brighter on note 4 but I don't mind the n6 screen. Camera at night isn't as good but in daylight the n6 focuses faster than the note 4. For what I like the n6 is the phone for me.
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I own a T Mobile Note 4 and using on AT&T network. It works great with no issues.
I ordered a Nexus 6 with Friday delivery so can't fairly compare yet.
A few Note 4 things.
1. FireKat custom rom has made all the difference. It is stock TW tweaked to perfection. No lag and battery last 5 to 6 hours of SOT.
2. Screen on Note 4 is incredible.
3. We did get CM12 on Note 4.
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I should have bought the dev edition Note 3, but then again there is hardly any support on the Verizon end........so I'm actually glad I didn't. Still something to think about if I do shop Swappa.
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I had a Note 3 until may of this year when I got my G3 which I still have. The Nexus is leaps and bounds past the Note.
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Can you be specific as to what is so dramatic in the differences? If you have time, and don't mind? I'd love to hear what your experience has been. :good:
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Can you be specific as to what is so dramatic in the differences? If you have time, and don't mind? I'd love to hear what your experience has been. :good:
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The Note 3 was a good phone when I didn't know any better about Android when I bought it. The phone seemed fast compared to my S3 but it WS extremely limited in terms of modding which is what I hated. TW was always laggy for me (more noticeable when I used my Nexus 7 then used my Note 3). After a while it for extremely annoying to me that my Nexus 7 with its 1.7ghz process and 2gn or ram was faster than my 2.3ghz 3gb of ram Note 3. I was rooted running Nova launcher on it until I accidentally updated to kitkat. I lost root in the update and I decided that I would upgrade he phone when something better came along because the TW nonsense was not for me. I liked the dual window and the S pen was cool at first but then it became a gimmick. The physical home button started to click weird after 7 months and it was not ideal to use and felt primitive compared to the onscreen buttons of my Nexus 7 (2013)
I had mentioned modding earlier which is important to me especially with TW because there was a good amount of lag comparatively speaking. Others may have found the Note to EB fast, but have then use a Nexus or AOSP device and then use the Samsung. Its sad because it was nice despite its shortcomings. The camera focus was horrible in my Note, but when it did focus after much frustration it would take nice pictures. Now let's talk ergonomics, the Note is extremely boxy for a 5.7in phone. I like big phablets however the Note 3 was terrible to hold even with a minimal case. Then there was the camera which protrudes a good amount just like the S5, and Note 4 making a slim case a bad idea if you want to protect the camera lens.
My wife has the S5 and whenever I use it it's awful just like I recall my Note was. My wife used to love Samsung too, but she now likes the way Nexus devices are or any phones with on screen buttons and minimal bloat. (She's not s technology snob at all either) her phone lags and stutters even with the bloat disabled as much as possible. Back on topic with the Note 3 now, I decided that the physical buttons, non ergonomic design, bad camera focus, laggy software, slow updates, bloat galore and general lack of easy development/mods was too much. I then bought a G3 at the end of May last year and instantly loved it. LG's UI was nowhere near as heavy as Samsung's and the G3 became my favorite non Nexus devices. In fact I still use my G3 even thought I love my Nexus. I wasn't going to wait for the Nexus 6 or whatever I thought it would be called to come out because I was done with the Notes shortcomings. The best decision I ever made was to get rid of my Samsung phone. I like the Nexus and G3 and will get the G4 and Nexus phone next year unless LG screws up their nice design.
In the end it was more than one thing for me and I hopes this helps you. I don't hate Samsung, I just don't like their phones the way that I used to. I still have an awesome Samsung TV and LG TV in my house and a Samsung Ativ Book 9 Plus (i7 mode) but I won't but another Samsung phone the way they are now.
I had the Note 3 for several month and before that a Note 2 for a good while - both on Verizon. Having grown tired of Verizon locking down their devices and Samsung pressing on with Knox, I decided to move on from both ... grabbed a Nexus 6 with T-Mobile back in the beginning of December. I admit I wasn't sure if I could deviate from the Note as I grew accustom to the Note series and all the great things it has to offer - screen, camera, having the SPen, Multi Window, Pen Window, etc. But, as I started to think about it, I realized I almost never used the SPen and Multi Window/Pen Window were very rarely used as well. After almost 2 full weeks with the Nexus 6 I can say without a shadow of a doubt I do not miss my Note 3 AT ALL! About the only thing I miss is the battery life - the Nexus 6, in my use/experience, has not even come close to what I achieved with the Note 3! (I'm not really worried about this as I'm sure the kinks will be worked out by Google/Moto to get better results).
Comparison of the (in my opinion) major factors:
- Screen: Turning off Adaptive Brightness on the Nexus 6 makes a HUGE difference (and is a must IMO) and , in my most humble opinion, puts it on par with the Note 3 display. However, the Note 3 still wins this contest ... The N6 screen gets plenty bright and visibility outdoors hasn't been an issue, but overall I think the N3 has a slight edge. Also, the feel of the screen is different on the N6. The N6 glass seems "stickier" (for a lack of a better word) ... My fingers slid across the glass easier on the N3 and it's definitely better at managing finger prints!
- UI: Hands down goes to the N6!! Absolutely no comparison! While I'm not a TouchWiz hater (I actually think it compliments the Note series well) I was never a huge fan. Yes, it has some useful features, but a vast majority I found to be gimmicky and never used them. All they did was clutter the settings menu and app draw. And there is no denying TW lags ... now it was never significant in my experience, but definitely noticeable! Now, 5.0 on the Nexus 6 absolutely beautiful and straight out flies! Multitasking it so fluid that it makes up for Multi Window - switch between apps using the recent key (or whatever they're calling it in 5.0) is smooth with quick transitions. Google added nice features (ambient display, battery saver, priority notifications - to name a few) that are, well useful! Granted other OEMs have used similar features them in the past, but they're baked in very nice in 5.0 ... not intrusive and easy to ignore).
- Battery: As I stated above, I had better results from my Note 3. The N6 gets me through the day, but if I was a heavy user I'd find myself needing to charge mid day for sure
- Sound: Nexus 6 is better in every category! Dual front facing speakers!! Nuff said LOL! Headphone jack output is better and louder in-call volume.
Feel-in-hand/Build: While slightly taller,wider and heavier the Nexus 6, after a few days of use, feels better in hand. I admit, the additional width took some getting used to (the height wasn't an issue for me), even though it's only slight difference in width, it's definitely a difference you'll notice. But like any new device, it becomes a none-issue after a few days. The curved back on the N6 makes the feel-in-hand great, but certainly makes things annoying if you're trying to use the device while it's laying flat on a hard surface. Although the same could be said for the Note 3 and it's protruding rear camera (never did understand that design!)
The build on the Nexus 6 is stellar!! Just a solid piece of machinery LOL There's no give to this thing at all! The N3 always felts kinda cheap to me ... it'd creek a little bit when holding it in a certain spot, the plastic didn't feel premium and it developed hair-line cracks in the plastic outer band around the SPen although it was never dropped/abused.
Camera: (DISCLAIMER: I AM IN NO WAY A PHOTOGRAPHER ... I ENJOY TAKING PICTURES, BUT TRUTH BE TOLD I DON'T KNOW MAY ASS FROM LEFT FIELD!!!) I may be the only one to say this, but I was never a fan of the Note 3 camera (I still feel the Note 2 camera was superior). I always had a tough time getting decent shots. However, towards the end of my run with the device I turned off the image stabilization feature (I think that's what it was called) and had MUCH better success! The Nexus 6, IMO, takes really good photos. Like any smartphone camera, it does better in the right conditions. But, with HDR on, I am finding the pics to be more than ample for my needs.
Depending on your wants and needs, I don't think you can go wrong with either device. In the end it all comes down to personal preference. At this point in my life, I wanted the latest, pure, unskinned Android OS, fast updates and a root/hack friendly environment (with great developer support). If those aren't appealing to you, than the Note 4 is probably the next best choice. I say go play with both a few time at a local store before making a decision ....
OK, I guess if I had infinite money, then I'd just go out and buy a new smartphone every year, but unfortunately I'm not. Though I will spend money on tech that I think are important, eg I bought a little xmas prezzie for myself in the form of a 51 inch plasma telly.
It's just that I already have a Note 2. I'd be paying a fair bit of money over 24 months to get a Note 4 and I just don't feel as excited by this piece of new tech as I "should be"? The screen isn't much bigger than the Note 2, which 2 years on still actually does everything I need it to do, though it has inexplicable slowed down a little than it used to be (maybe memory too full).
It just doesn't seem that revolutionary from the Note 2. My last 3 phones were Nokia N86, Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy Note 2. And going to the Note 4 just doesn't as seem as revolutionary as the previous jumps?
I have mucho respect for you! I wish I could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or I fried rooting it). I actually liked my LG G2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, I'm not impressed with my Note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that I really do like about it: SAMOLED. The Samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My G2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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I pulled the triger and after 2 years I switched from Note 2. You right, it is not a big jump like before ( originally switched from HTC G2 to Note 2 ) but there is not coming back to 720p screen for me. This one is a beast.
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I had the note 2 for a full year right when it came out. I sold it after a year to get the g2. After a year with the g2, I'm so glad to be back to the note family, specifically the note 4. This phone is a beast, I can easily see myself keeping this one for a full 2 years!! It's definitely an upgrade over the note 2 by leaps and bound.
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i have mucho respect for you! I wish i could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or i fried rooting it). I actually liked my lg g2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, i'm not impressed with my note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that i really do like about it: Samoled. The samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My g2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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i am sorry to say this but you are lying! Troll alert!
I bought the note 2 when it came out and loved it but was getting some usb charge board issues about a month before the note 4 came out, i decided to pre order the note 4 and got it on release day and it's a superb phone the best I've ever owned and a good upgrade from the note 2 I think personally.
The screen alone is amazing.
@Rudy:
What specifically is he lying about?
Some people have reported battery issues, and it is a known fact that TouchWiz is somewhat laggy compared to other launchers/themes. Although it has been getting a lot better in recent versions and IME, I have almost no lag on my phone. Also if you check around quite a few people have been having an issue with their camera and focus issues.
His personal experiences with various phones are his own. Unless you were there to witness his usage of the phones.
Calling someone a troll and a liar without backing it up with verifiable facts from credible industry sources is in very poor form and very un-cool.
So either provide some backup with verifiable links to industry sources to prove him/her wrong, or quietly go on with your life and leave others be.
i upgrade on a 5 yr cycle. went to the note 4 910u from a nokia n8.
camera is slightly better (16mpx ois vs 12mpx), software is much better compared to symbian, storage is more (160GB vs 40GB), wireless charging and bluetooth and screen are better, lag is gone once i enabled dev mode with animations off.
i would not upgrade on less than a 4yr or 5yr cycle. thats the best ROI. if you have a note 2 stay with it until 2017/18.
Lol I cant stay on one phone more than 5 months
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keithfrombm said:
I have mucho respect for you! I wish I could make a full 2 year run on a smartphone. I haven't found one that either didn't crash, smash, or just frustrate me to hell and back (or I fried rooting it). I actually liked my LG G2 and wouldn't have upgraded, but it hit the 6 month mark and the digitizer went haywire. 6 months. That's the least time any phone has lasted me. A year is average. So far, I'm not impressed with my Note 4, and may return it within the 14-day period. The battery life is truly unimpressive, the camera has focus problems, it lags all over the place, the interface is so...2010...the only thing that I really do like about it: SAMOLED. The Samsung displays are beautiful, and it doesn't hurt my head at all. My G2 gave me headaches. I may 'downgrade' or just try another device.
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Well it isn't the same for everyone. For me battery is awesome on this phone 6h non stop heavy usage, over 2 days on moderate - this is double comparing to my previous phone which was Nexus 5. Touchwiz is s#*@= comparing to Google launcher tough, went straight to nova. Basically my opinion is: brilliant piece of hardware and very, very bad software. I hope someday we will get pure android rom.
jeanclaudevandamme said:
OK, I guess if I had infinite money, then I'd just go out and buy a new smartphone every year, but unfortunately I'm not. Though I will spend money on tech that I think are important, eg I bought a little xmas prezzie for myself in the form of a 51 inch plasma telly.
It's just that I already have a Note 2. I'd be paying a fair bit of money over 24 months to get a Note 4 and I just don't feel as excited by this piece of new tech as I "should be"? The screen isn't much bigger than the Note 2, which 2 years on still actually does everything I need it to do, though it has inexplicable slowed down a little than it used to be (maybe memory too full).
It just doesn't seem that revolutionary from the Note 2. My last 3 phones were Nokia N86, Samsung Galaxy S2, Samsung Galaxy Note 2. And going to the Note 4 just doesn't as seem as revolutionary as the previous jumps?
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The simple reason is because you are not fully utilising the Note 2 and hitting the boundaries of the phone itself. If you were hitting the edges you would notice that the extra performance from the Note 4 would be awesome.
I change my phone every few months and the boundary i had was lack of wireless charging on my previous phone (sony z2 32gb 3gb). The Samsung S4 and S5 had terrible camera and the lack of the additional 1GB really hurt.
It took me 3 weeks to open my note 4 box and start using it because i was putting off transferring the data. All i have really got from S5/Z2 to Note 4 is the wireless charging.
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The simple reason is because you are not fully utilising the Note 2 and hitting the boundaries of the phone itself. If you were hitting the edges you would notice that the extra performance from the Note 4 would be awesome.
I change my phone every few months and the boundary i had was lack of wireless charging on my previous phone (sony z2 32gb 3gb). The Samsung S4 and S5 had terrible camera and the lack of the additional 1GB really hurt.
It took me 3 weeks to open my note 4 box and start using it because i was putting off transferring the data. All i have really got from S5/Z2 to Note 4 is the wireless charging.
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I would say that his approach is way more sensible than yours. You could have easily incorporate wireless charging to both xperia z2 and galaxy s5 for much less money than note 4 cost. If that was the only edge you were looking for you simply wasted your money.
torquadon said:
I would say that his approach is way more sensible than yours. You could have easily incorporate wireless charging to both xperia z2 and galaxy s5 for much less money than note 4 cost. If that was the only edge you were looking for you simply wasted your money.
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Sony Z2 has no wireless charging at all only the Z3 has but it does have 3GB
Galaxy S5 only has 2GB not 3GB (not enough)
actually from looking at some rumours about upcoming phones, I'd be interested in the next-gen Sony Xperia Z Ultra, the so rumoured Z4 ultra, with 6.4" screen and 1440p and stylus support. but that's just vapourware atm, CES will tell.
funnily enough, i just want a bigger screen in a new phone, like that is literally the top priority. the current z ultra is a year old so its processors/res etc rules it out. though it's not too expensive to buy outright now on ebay.
I've upgraded from a note 2 and the difference is significant. The upgrade in these camera alone was worth it.
I started saving money when i bought the note 2, so the note 4 was paid off as soon as it came out.
I am writing this message from my note 2,as it's a nice device to mess around with now, and I'm currently running Lollipop ?
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I've upgraded from a note 2 and the difference is significant. The upgrade in these camera alone was worth it.
I started saving money when i bought the note 2, so the note 4 was paid off as soon as it came out.
I am writing this message from my note 2,as it's a nice device to mess around with now, and I'm currently running Lollipop ?
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Lollipop on your note 2? Can you provide a link?
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Sony Z2 has no wireless charging at all only the Z3 has but it does have 3GB
Galaxy S5 only has 2GB not 3GB (not enough)
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I didn't check it for long time and didn't know that Sony resigned from wireless charging cover. My bad.
I'm not sure you understood his post. He didn't say that there is no difference, neither I did. All I am saying is, I believe his approach is more sensible. According to you 1gb ram and wireless charger is worth 600GBP, and for me it is not. Amount of people who will need that extra ram is relatively small, I updated from nexus 5 only because I could, not because it was by any means necessary. Both phones are more then capable of running any app from Google play smoothly, many of them would work better on nexus for that simple reason that Samsung apps use huge amount of ram/cpu and unless u root there is no way to disable them.
I was on the Note 3 and didn't had any plans to get the Note 4 as I thought it wasn't worth upgrading to.
But I haven't regret it a second! The quality of the phone is amazing! Better screen and better battery life. Love it!
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I upgrade every two years. My previous phone was the note 2 and I'm thoroughly impressed. Everything, other than battery life, is a dramatic improvement. What really make this phone revolutionary upgrade from any other devise is gear vr. Think of all the advancements ever brought to the smartphone market and realize that nothing compares to gear vr.
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I upgrade every two years. My previous phone was the note 2 and I'm thoroughly impressed. Everything, other than battery life, is a dramatic improvement. What really make this phone revolutionary upgrade from any other devise is gear vr. Think of all the advancements ever brought to the smartphone market and realize that nothing compares to gear vr.
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This plus imagine Note 4 + Gear VR + Gear S! Although Gear VR will not allow you to call or text when the user is wearing it, with Gear S, you could do that by talking to S-Voice! I have not tried this out personally - because I am poor, but it should work... right? :S That and advanced s-pen :3
But for the whole upgrading thing: If I were to upgrade my phone today - or within the year, I would go with the Note 4. If I were patient enough to wait a few more months, well, then clearly I wouldn't get the note 4 S: The way I see it though, technology has been upgrading crazy fast so it's no big deal if you're out of the loop lol
edit: I am biased though since I already own the note 4 + VR
I'm trying to decide if I should go ahead and order an IPhone 7 plus or wait it out. With the government getting involved is there any chance we will get our new Notes before sometime in Oct or is that off the table now? Is there a chance Samsung scraps the Note 7 this year?
Just wondering if Note 7 took a big hit this year and it is dead basically.
What is everyone's opinion? Is the 7 Plus an as premium device as the Note 7? Or should I stick this wait out? I really like the Note, but I'm sick of the tiny screen on my S7 I'm using right now while my Note 7 is boxed up.
With Samsung offering loaners now, is it safe to say it will be awhile before replacements are here?
Tell me the pros and cons of having a 7 Plus versus Note 7. Yes, I know note has spen and expandable memeory.
Just because Note 7 may not be your device doesn't mean you should go for iPhone 7 or 7 Plus.
You should ask yourself which ecosystem works for you the best. You have Android and Apple iOS ecosystems and OSes. Apple iOS ecosystem and OS is designed for ease of use. While Android is designed to be customized to work the way you want and works best for you. Apple iOS OS closed source and closed ecosystem giving you more security, but less control and less you can do with the apps and hardware. While Android is open source OS and open ecosystem this actually giving you more that you can do with the apps and hardware as well as more control over your experience with the device. This is what you should be using in making the decision rather than this one Android device (when there is so many Android devices in the market and will be shortly) over iPhone 7/Plus.
They are many Android devices that are out now and getting released shortly. I would recommend checking them out first before making a decision.
Again Apple iOS and Android are not interchangeable and are completely different ecosystems & OSes that are designed for completely two different people.
The issue with Galaxy Note 7 right now is that it was released out before it was ready. So basically we are early adopters of Note 7. There are the bad as well as the good that comes with being early adopters of technology. Within a month or two the Galaxy Note 7 will be fine for the masses.
This has nothing to do with Android as a whole. This has to do with Samsung releasing Galaxy Note 7 before it was ready. So don't judge Android over Samsung's issues with Galaxy Note 7.
Just remember Apple antenna issues with iPhone in the past. Possible hardware issues at first release is always possible and does happen from time to time even with Apple as well as Android hardware manufacturers. Keep that in mind.
BTY - This is most likely the best answer you going to get since we are Android people here. Just saying.
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Just get an iPhone, i mean why else would you put so much effort in this thread? If we tell you to wait for the note 7 then this thread would have made no sense since you have doubts in your mind whether which to get...smh i swear i always use the analogy of sports teams, do you switch from Yankees to Boston because Yankees is losing? That's such a scumbag move if you ask me, so because samsung is down your not going to stick by their side in hopes that it will obviously get better? No, you wanna go and hop to not just the next "best" thing, you wanna jump to a whole different platform, a whole different format, the rival of Android "IO effin S" how dare you!! Just get an iPhone dude, I'm already pissed! GO GET AN IPHONE!!!LOG OFF OF XDA AND GET AN IPHONE!! SAY GOODBYE TO THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE U COULDNT WAIT!!! JESUS CHRIST!! IM LIVID!
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Decaf dude..... and to the op asking that type of question in an android forum will only provoke one type of response. By the way should I wipe my butt after I poop? I mean I could wait for a new poop to come out or I could try something new.
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Im swapping mines out for the 7plus. If I hear better results from the peeps here (on their new N7s). I'll pay the restocking fee and re-cop the N7.
Returned mine yesterday and preordered the 7 plus. I had an old 6 plus sitting in a drawer and couldn't pass up their trade in promo for the iPhone. Too bad they're back ordered till the first week in October already.
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Guys. There's no denying that iOS is closed source and therefore has less flexibility than Android. Another thing you have to consider though is Android phones, as good as they are, they have many many bad things. Modern Galaxy phones are harder to repair/replace parts yourself, have very poor resale value, and can get slow and depleted battery life extremely fast. Consider this. The iPhone 6S, a year old phone, is beating the recently released Note 7 in benchmarks and real world usage, with a dual core chip and 2GB of RAM vs Quad (And Exynos Octa) core SoC and 4GB of RAM.
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Guys. There's no denying that iOS is closed source and therefore has less flexibility than Android. Another thing you have to consider though is Android phones, as good as they are, they have many many bad things. Modern Galaxy phones are harder to repair/replace parts yourself, have very poor resale value, and can get slow and depleted battery life extremely fast. Consider this. The iPhone 6S, a year old phone, is beating the recently released Note 7 in benchmarks and real world usage, with a dual core chip and 2GB of RAM vs Quad (And Exynos Octa) core SoC and 4GB of RAM.
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Can you give an a link for the test of real life usage? I know they perform a speed test with games and other stuff, but that is not even close to real life usage.
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Can you give an a link for the test of real life usage? I know they perform a speed test with games and other stuff, but that is not even close to real life usage.
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These are the 2 main ones I found
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-61FFoJFy0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEmvbYvmnGE
What real life usage do you mean that isn't even close?
This is the dumbest thread ever. Op kill it please.
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These are the 2 main ones I found
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-61FFoJFy0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEmvbYvmnGE
What real life usage do you mean that isn't even close?
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I seen those videos before, but for me that is not real life situations I really use my phone for business, I use Word, Excel, Outlook, on daily basis, my son is Apple fan and I brought the iPhone 6S plus for him. Because his work he needs to use outlook all the time, and he is impress on how fast my note7 is in receiving attachments and sending them comparing with his phone. That is just an example, but there are more situations when his phone loose connectivity where my phone still have full connectivity.
I already pre order the IPhone 7 plus for my son. I will be waiting for my note 7 when become available to be exchanged.
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parusia said:
I seen those videos before, but for me that is not real life situations I really use my phone for business, I use Word, Excel, Outlook, on daily basis, my son is Apple fan and I brought the iPhone 6S plus for him. Because his work he needs to use outlook all the time, and he is impress on how fast my note7 is in receiving attachments and sending them comparing with his phone. That is just an example, but there are more situations when his phone loose connectivity where my phone still have full connectivity.
I already pre order the IPhone 7 plus for my son. I will be waiting for my note 7 when become available to be exchanged.
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There's no denying that either. Samsung phones get better reception than iPhones.
First thing: Samsung is not Android itself. Android is Google OS that manufacture's install on their devices. There are several manufactures that use Android on their devices. Samsung is not the only manufacture that uses Android. So judging Android by Samsung devices like Note 7 is being unfair to Android itself.
Again: choosing between Android and iOS is ALL ABOUT THE ECOSYSTEM. The hardware is secondary.
Nexus Sailfish, Nexus Marlin, Xiaomi Redmi 4, Xiaomi Mi Note 2, Asus Zenfone 3, OnePlus 3, Sony Xperia Z5, LG V20, and so much more devices for this year, 2016.
What I am saying is that no one should be judging Android vs iOS over hardware. They both are about the ecosystem. Once you chosen which ecosystem then you choose your device by what you want from the hardware. Not the other way around.
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yes yes yes get rid of android phones there nothing but trouble return it the note and buy the iPhone 7 plus apple is the best no other company or phone can beat apple products hands down
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yes yes yes get rid of android phones there nothing but trouble return it the note and buy the iPhone 7 plus apple is the best no other company or phone can beat apple products hands down
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Again: Samsung is not Android itself.
We all need to wait and see if there is not going to be iBoom fiasco
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stlbluesfan said:
I'm trying to decide if I should go ahead and order an IPhone 7 plus or wait it out. With the government getting involved is there any chance we will get our new Notes before sometime in Oct or is that off the table now? Is there a chance Samsung scraps the Note 7 this year?
Just wondering if Note 7 took a big hit this year and it is dead basically.
What is everyone's opinion? Is the 7 Plus an as premium device as the Note 7? Or should I stick this wait out? I really like the Note, but I'm sick of the tiny screen on my S7 I'm using right now while my Note 7 is boxed up.
With Samsung offering loaners now, is it safe to say it will be awhile before replacements are here?
Tell me the pros and cons of having a 7 Plus versus Note 7. Yes, I know note has spen and expandable memeory.
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No amoled 2k, Samsung Pay, widgets, real NFC, removable storage, s pen features, etc. The first four really do it for me. I'm sure I'm forgetting some features I take for granted too.
you couldn't pay me to get an iphone. i can't stand ios. even if i don't keep my note 7 i am staying with an android phone. more than likely an lg v20
Lets be honest here the first Iphone and the latest look the same. I mean Apple was bashing Samsung for the large phone and look now. To me if you want to go backwards then get an Iphone. Also I purchase phones like Oneplus and Nexus because I like pure Android which if all you have had is Samsung you have no clue what it truly is.
My phone today has the google contacts and dialer instead of Samsung. I use Nova with a Nougat based theme and the icons and background have all been changed. Yeah I like Samsung Pay and honestly its a good phone but my 1+3 for half the price is a beautiful phone as well, it also runs close to stock android with a couple of nice features I wish Sammy would pick up
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This is the dumbest thread ever. Op kill it please.
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got to admit this as well as there is no real basis to create a thread about a subjective question. Whether you go to IOS or wait has no bearing on us and the fact you want to go to IOS people in here would be good ridence. IJS
Flip a coin...
just a quick question, how did you manage to get google dialer installed? I had been trying for a while and then eventually gave up on it
Good Afternoon,
I'm new to the forum and looking for some advice/knowledge. I currently have an iPhone 8 Plus and am looking at getting a Note 9. I've always been a big fan of the note phones but never owned one and feel that now is a good time to get one.
I've read and watched a ton of reviews on the Note 9 but have some questions about moving over to Android from IOS. Are most of the apps now more optimized to phones like the Note 9 or do they still look a bit dated? I mainly use apps like Facebook, Twitter, Sky Sports, you tube, Instagram and others. Just wanted to see what the look of these apps is like on the Note 9.
Apologies if there are already posts on questions like this.
Thanks for your help.
Simon
IMO most apps on Android look/feel better to me and with better functionality than they do on iOS; it's like they're dumbed down
The only apps I don't use that you've mentioned are FB and Sky; the rest I do and they're very good, very sharp
Personally if you're tied into all Apple (says me who has iMac, MBC, iPad Pro and ATV4s throughout the house); it might be a shock to the system. I personally don't like iPhones etc
However a move to a Note 9 would make you realise how much better flagship Android phones are compared to Apple IMO; the screen being the biggest standout but also the ease that you can completely mould the Note 9 into what you need; how customisable they are and how you can set it up to how you want, both Launchers and home screen, whereas on iPhones, you're locked down to how they want you to have it, unless you jailbreak and even then, it's not as customisable
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IMO most apps on Android look/feel better to me and with better functionality than they do on iOS; it's like they're dumbed down
The only apps I don't use that you've mentioned are FB and Sky; the rest I do and they're very good, very sharp
Personally if you're tied into all Apple (says me who has iMac, MBC, iPad Pro and ATV4s throughout the house); it might be a shock to the system. I personally don't like iPhones etc
However a move to a Note 9 would make you realise how much better flagship Android phones are compared to Apple IMO; the screen being the biggest standout but also the ease that you can completely mould the Note 9 into what you need; how customisable they are and how you can set it up to how you want, both Launchers and home screen, whereas on iPhones, you're locked down to how they want you to have it, unless you jailbreak and even then, it's not as customisable
Welcome to Android, the apps you mentioned will be fine on the Note 9. I handle the phones for my company and we have mainly Android for the field but a few of the guys inside have IOS and the apps look very similar on both operating systems.
Thanks for your responses.
I only have an Apple phone and an iPad so not fully tied in too much. I've dipped into Android back with the Samsung Galaxy S6 and some of the apps didn't seem as sharp as IOS which is probably why i've been reluctant to switch again.
Agree with your points about the Note 9. I went into my local O2 shop today and tried it out the screen is really impressive and is such a step up from my current phone.
STJ2803 said:
Good Afternoon,
I'm new to the forum and looking for some advice/knowledge. I currently have an iPhone 8 Plus and am looking at getting a Note 9. I've always been a big fan of the note phones but never owned one and feel that now is a good time to get one.
I've read and watched a ton of reviews on the Note 9 but have some questions about moving over to Android from IOS. Are most of the apps now more optimized to phones like the Note 9 or do they still look a bit dated? I mainly use apps like Facebook, Twitter, Sky Sports, you tube, Instagram and others. Just wanted to see what the look of these apps is like on the Note 9.
Apologies if there are already posts on questions like this.
Thanks for your help.
Simon
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All main apps update to fit Infinity display but in general iOS apps has better experiences than Android, smoothness, design and quality. Maybe the differences are not much with some apps
Hello. I switched from the Iphone 8 Plus to Note 9. Here are my thoughts.
1) Apple has no features. It is just a calculator against Note 9
2) Although in benchmark scores Apple's CPU is faster, i noticed no difference.
3) Apps are greatly optimized. Not even a single crush (Been 5 days since i have been using Note 9)
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Don't expect Android apps to ever be as polished as Apple apps as that won't happen. Apple is a much better refined eco system. Android apps have come a long way so thats a good thing. Note 9 is a nice phone but the only thing going for it is the battery size. However samsung has left all the bells and whistles for the S10 and Note 10. So I will give the 9 a skip as I am happy with my flagship
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The only thing going for it is battery size???
Hahaha, oh okay. Got it. ??
I think this phone is a massive step up for the OP, given they have an iPhone 8+. It's not even close, actually. WAY more than just a large battery. It's a powerhouse workhorse.
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The iPhone has more raw power and utilizes it better. App performance and gaming performance is much better on the 8+ to start with. If you don't need a S Pen then no need to jump onto the Note 9.
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Dang another one?! ?
Missy Elliott would say:
"Man, you guys really need to research that minute man chip!" ?
Could you please explain to me what "raw power" you speak of and where it's coming from? Also, what's a "flagship?"
If you don't mind, please also throw the word "premium" in there as well.
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The iPhone has more raw power and utilizes it better. App performance and gaming performance is much better on the 8+ to start with. If you don't need a S Pen then no need to jump onto the Note 9.
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Strong disagree. There are so many other things the Note9 smokes the iPhone 8+ in (or any iPhone) that it's dizzying.
My brother has an iPhone 8+. My Note8 already feels much more powerful and useful in side-by-side comparisons. So the Note9 is going to widen that gap.
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Strong disagree. There are so many other things the Note9 smokes the iPhone 8+ in (or any iPhone) that it's dizzying.
My brother has an iPhone 8+. My Note8 already feels much more powerful and useful in side-by-side comparisons. So the Note9 is going to widen that gap.
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iPhone is just a glorified cellphone. Note line is just a glorified smartphone. ?
STJ2803 said:
Good Afternoon,
I'm new to the forum and looking for some advice/knowledge. I currently have an iPhone 8 Plus and am looking at getting a Note 9. I've always been a big fan of the note phones but never owned one and feel that now is a good time to get one.
I've read and watched a ton of reviews on the Note 9 but have some questions about moving over to Android from IOS. Are most of the apps now more optimized to phones like the Note 9 or do they still look a bit dated? I mainly use apps like Facebook, Twitter, Sky Sports, you tube, Instagram and others. Just wanted to see what the look of these apps is like on the Note 9.
Apologies if there are already posts on questions like this.
Thanks for your help.
Simon
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Welcome to the forum.
I own the iPhone 8+ had the note 8 and now own the Note 9 as well as the iPhone 8+.
Both mobiles are quality products the main difference being the OS.
If a comparison was to be made, and its very unwise to do so, I would compare the Galaxy S9+ with the iPhone 8+.
The Note has an advantage over ALL present production smart phones in that it posses the S-pen. Regardless of OS the Note series is even unique among Android smart phones.
It is near impossible to make comparisons between Apple and other brands. Apple make a superb package and though I detest their business model in this country the mobile itself is very accomplished.
The Note 9, well now.....its a pocket PC with a pen as a mouse. Many consumers purchase the Note series and do NOT use the pen. I have never understood that and never will. If one is not going to use the S-pen buy the S9+.
I repeat, trying to compare Apple products with Android is very much a non starter. Add to that mix the Note 9 is unique even among Android mobiles and its impossible to draw a meaningful, valued conclusion.
I need the S-pen so the Note 9 is my daily driver. I can assure you the iPhone 8+ is also a superb smart phone. Not my choice for daily use but that is me.
Try not to compare, you will find yourself trying to pee in the corner of a barrel!
Ryland
Im a android guy but took a break now using ios for around month. My last phones were gs8+, pixel 2 xl, note 8, gs9 plus, oneplus 6. No ios fanboy here just honest opinion.
I hated the iphone x which iuser for a month. Hates the notch, cant hide it like oneplus. The phone never got bigger since is even smaller than a regular gs9. Heats up when heavy task to the point that for safety reason screen brighness would dim to around 50% until it cools up. I decided to give the 8+ a chance since i really wanted to give ios a chance.
Iphone 8+ for me... old design, ugly, big bezel BUT IT WORKS. Ios itself is smoother than android. Even more so now in beta 12. Animations are fluid with less to non skip frame. Apps are well optimize and mobile site seems to be build more around ios than android.
I didnt like the way android is going with android pie and how they are trying to copy what ios is doing. Android use to be innovation now they are trying to be ios and samsung. i didnt like what i saw with all the new pixel 3 xl leaks and its big notch. Dont like all phone skin and fragmented ui with slow updates.
Note 9 will probably get pie AFTER galaxy S10, (march/april 2019) is the way samsung has always been. Main reason why im now with ios for a while, gets update on day one.
dieselhazza said:
My wife and cousin both own an iPhone X. That phone runs so much smoother than the Note 8 I used to have. Also videos from tech reviews suggest that the iPhone X has more power than the Note 9. Considering the chip in the iPhone X is a better processor than the one in the Note 9.this comes as no surprise. Ohh and IOS Eco system is better optimized so with the new upcoming A12 chip it will make the gap much wider. So please guys don't get cut as it doesn't change the facts
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Smoothness may be slightly better, but there's just too many limitations on iOS. No thanks. I don't want a phone that ties my hands behind my back.
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Smoothness may be slightly better, but there's just too many limitations on iOS. No thanks. I don't want a phone that ties my hands behind my back.
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No one is forcing or trying to convince you to use an iPhone. I also prefer Android and currently using the Pixel 2 XL.
However, to be honest the iPhone is always going to be she's in the race simply because every is made in house. So it is highly optimized so runs much he than Android. All the Apps are better on IOS so cannot beat that.
For instance Fortnite lags on the Note 9 but runs smoothly on iPhone 8, 8+ and iPhone X.
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No one is forcing or trying to convince you to use an iPhone. I also prefer Android and currently using the Pixel 2 XL.
However, to be honest the iPhone is always going to be she's in the race simply because every is made in house. So it is highly optimized so runs much he than Android. All the Apps are better on IOS so cannot beat that.
For instance Fortnite lags on the Note 9 but runs smoothly on iPhone 8, 8+ and iPhone X.
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That's fine if you're that picky, but for most normal people, ios apps don't run "much better". Maybe very, very slightly. I've had almost zero lag in a full year with my Note8. Maybe a frame drop one time a month? I'll trade that for all the additional functionality.
No launcher like Nova Prime? No SwiftKey keyboard? No sd card? No stylus? No widgets where I want them? No fast charging? No ability to download a song/video and play it immediately? No way to use anything but iTunes?
Pass. I'll take my ity bity tiny lower performance that most people wouldn't notice. In reviews I've read, no one had lag in Fortnite by the way, so I'm sure it's not prevalent.
"Also videos from tech reviews suggest that the iPhone X has more power than the Note 9."
Yes, from very uniformed or bias sites like BGR. They use the ONLY benchmark which shows the iPhone X has "more power" than the Note9. Literally every other test you could possibly run (especially AnTuTu, which tests the phone's capabilities as a whole and not ONLY the processor) shows that the Note9 destroys the year old iPhone X, as it should.
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I don't think the Note 9 destroys the iPhone X or 8+.
The A11 chip is superior to what ssmsung has in the Note 9
The A12 will run loops around it no doubt.
Also the new Kirin 980 will destroy the Exynos housed in the Note 9
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Why are you in the note 9 forums just to bash it? Laughable
Ryland Johnson said:
Welcome to the forum.
I own the iPhone 8+ had the note 8 and now own the Note 9 as well as the iPhone 8+.
Both mobiles are quality products the main difference being the OS.
If a comparison was to be made, and its very unwise to do so, I would compare the Galaxy S9+ with the iPhone 8+.
The Note has an advantage over ALL present production smart phones in that it posses the S-pen. Regardless of OS the Note series is even unique among Android smart phones.
It is near impossible to make comparisons between Apple and other brands. Apple make a superb package and though I detest their business model in this country the mobile itself is very accomplished.
The Note 9, well now.....its a pocket PC with a pen as a mouse. Many consumers purchase the Note series and do NOT use the pen. I have never understood that and never will. If one is not going to use the S-pen buy the S9+.
I repeat, trying to compare Apple products with Android is very much a non starter. Add to that mix the Note 9 is unique even among Android mobiles and its impossible to draw a meaningful, valued conclusion.
I need the S-pen so the Note 9 is my daily driver. I can assure you the iPhone 8+ is also a superb smart phone. Not my choice for daily use but that is me.
Try not to compare, you will find yourself trying to pee in the corner of a barrel!
Ryland
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Umm, you can't compare a mobile os to a corporation. It goes right over apple fanboys heads or they get mad when you compare Android to iOS. They want to compare Apple vs Android and that is an apples to oranges comparison of which you just did.
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I don't think the Note 9 destroys the iPhone X or 8+.
The A11 chip is superior to what ssmsung has in the Note 9
The A12 will run loops around it no doubt.
Also the new Kirin 980 will destroy the Exynos housed in the Note 9
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Great. That's fine. But benchmark tests from an isolated processor do not jive with real-world usage. Even if you love benchmarks, the Note9 destroys the iPhone X in AnTuTu because it is testing memory, GPU, CPU, etc. There is more to a phone's performance than just the processor.
Once you realize that pretty much every flagship phone has an insanely powerful processor, it comes down to what you can actually DO with the power. That's where the Note9 absolutely CRUSHES the iPhone. There is nothing you can do on an iPhone that I cannot do on my Note9, but there are TONS of things I can do on my Note9 (productive things, at that) that you cannot do on an iPhone.
So, once again, the Note9 wins easily. Better hardware, comparable chip, WAY better productivity features.
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In everyday usage the Iphone X and iPhone 8+ are better than what the Note 9 is. In a couple of months the Note 9 will be lagging and slowed down.
I had the Note 8 so I know whats coming for the Note 9. Even the OP6 destroys the Note 9.
When you take Huawei into consideration it is clear that they will wipe the floor with Sammy. The Mate 20 pro will easily kill the Note 9
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You obviously either don't have a Note8, or you do some crazy things to your phone. I have had a Note8 since launch and it's SMOOTHER than when I first got it with zero lag. Oreo made it better, and it was damn good to begin with.
You're obviously just trolling though so I'm done discussing it with you. Enjoy your iPhoneX. I wouldn't pay $500 for that thing.
I switched from an iPhone 8 Plus and pretty disappointed. The Note 9 is definitely a nice phone, but there are so many little things that irk me about Android. Maybe the Note 9 is too much phone for me? I will be boxing it up and sending it back to Samsung next week unless someone wants an unlocked model for $950 [emoji23]
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