I am going to buy a new smartphone in couple of days.
For the first time i thought of buying Neo V because of its design and bravia engine display with large screen for gaming[ Ray would be little bit small to hold in both hands for gaming so dropped it ].
But,
Now i am confused to choose which phone to buy after seeing Galaxy S even though its on old model it has the same stand in the market.
I actually want to buy smartphone for HD gaming from gameloft and nonGL.
Which mobile supports all HD games
So please tell me which one should i buy....?
I have the SGS (Samsung Galaxy S) and it's a very good phone!
Anyway, for HD gaming is not too good... I don't have the Neo V, but checking the specs I can tell that it ain't very good neither.
I would recommend you to get a Xperia Play ( If you want your smatphone for gaming), is Cheaper than the SGS and has a better GPU.
The good thing about the SGS is that it has a lot of attention from the community (that means a lot of custom ROMs).
If you can get the money get a SGS2 or a Galaxy Nexus.
Cheers
For gaming, Galaxy S has PowerVR SGX 540 graphics is probably one of the best low priced android phones for gaming since iPhone has PowerVR SGX 535 graphics . Because games are natively coded and optimized for PowerVR GPUs, there is none of that "porting" thingie needed to be done.
That means the games are stable, fast and efficient when running on PowerVR graphics. There isn't "lost in quality" as much as regular ports, that unless you're playing it on a HD TV via TV out. Otherwise, WVGA is the limitation to that.
Neo V has Adreno 205, a non-powervr chip and is relativity slower than PowerVR SGX 540. So I wouldn't recommend that for gaming.
what about galaxy r i9103
Nvidia Tegra 2 AP20H
Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9
ULP GeForce
1 GB RAM
I dont know, but if you play so much your battery will be down in 2-3h
Xperia play probably would be good, but the custom rom side of things is a bit of a barren wasteground compared to over here on the SGS forum. There are only 1-2 custom roms that are any good.
Had very mixed results with converting my own PSX games with psxperia, but the dedicated hardware controller is soooo much better than a on-screen one
vamsikrishnach said:
what about galaxy r i9103
Nvidia Tegra 2 AP20H
Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9
ULP GeForce
1 GB RAM
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As far as I know, Tegra 2 shares many of the similarities to PowerVR architecture. Some graphically intensive games are also optimized for this particular chip and are listed THD.
Lets sum up the pluses:
1) Similar architecture
2)THD optimized games enabling extra detail for ULV Geforce GPUs
So why not?
I am bit confused ,
There is only a difference of 200 MHz and a armv7 processor can handle much more than a armv6 processor.
Many games today releases for armv7 or for the phones with 1024MHz processors,
My x8 reaches a top of 806MHz,
As an example,
i played GTA 3 without sound,
with increment of 200MHz others can play even gta Vice city with HD.
I gonna be mad, whats wrong here,
Please someone elaborate!!!
Difference between these 2 types of processors is not just about CPUClock, arm7 processors also have a hidden memory called "cache memory" ,this memory is expensive & absolutely super-fast so CPU don't have to wait for data to transfer from RAM (slow compared to cache mem)
This cache memory in armv7 devices is about 1 megabytes, but in armv6 its just afew kilobytes
It's not just cache, CPU design in armv7 is different ,some games use special libs which is included in armv7 roms, etc,etc........
More info:
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/21137/difference-between-armv6-armv7-processors
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http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...ifference+between+armv6+&+armv7&hl=en&ct=clnk
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The differences between armv6-800 and armv7-1000 is NOT only the 200MHz.
The real difference is the processor design. The armv6 is older design (on x8 this is an arm1136 core), the armv7 is newer with more "knowledge". More complex instruction sets (the armv7 have special instructions what we not have) higher IPC (instructions per clocks), etc... Example: our x8 have an arm1136 core (possible to overclock to 800MHz), the xperia mini have scorpion core (similar to the popular cortex a9 design, but a little bit faster) what is 1GHz on default. But the scorpion core have newer float point unit (vfpv3 againt our vfp), have the armv7a addons in the instruction set, have the NEON extension (what is an audio/video proccessing accelerator), have the thumb-2 extensions (what is double fast than the old thumb-1) and finally: have newer GPU (adreno 205 against our adreno 200, what is theoretically have double computing speed).
So, if you compare the two phones, you can see: on paper the differences is small (400MHz (only 200 with oc) in cpu speed, near same gpu, same resolution), but with heavyweight apps (usually the hd games) the mini can be 2-3 times faster than our phone.
Hello everyone
I've been reading for a few days in this forum about the Motorola Razr i
I certainly found interesting articles but strangely I have found that very few refer to the Intel chip
just as I have been looking about the chip of "Motorola Razr i" and found a curious comment
"Medfield z2460 was meant to test the waters and is the reason why it was launched in india and not the US. Just a precursor to the medfield z2580. The z2580 and Clovertrail will be offered in dual core variants (not to mention quad core for clover trail) and will ditch the imagination technologies sgx 540 for an sgx 544 mp2 which runs 34 [email protected] mhz.
The sgx 540 gets 6.4 gfllops @400mhz . The adreno 225 runs at 24.5 [email protected] 400mhz and the tegra 3 (t30l or t33) gpu runs 13 [email protected] mhz. So being that 6.4gflops vs 24.5gflops is relative to 202% what do you think happens with 34 gflops vs 24.5 gflops? Plus the s4 is 103 mflops single threaded while medfield z2460 is 90 mflops single threaded on the cpu side. That's pretty close. Dual core comparison with sgx544 might actually be superior and at a higher process node (32nm vs 28nm), and that's with an in order instruction set vs ARM's out of order. I don't see how you get "x86 Atom has very slim chances when taking on Qualcomm’s ARM processors or any other new generation ARM mobile CPU from Samsung or Nvidia" with that info. Your talking a gpu and a core.
Come spring they go out of order, not to mention ditching 5 year old architecture for silvermont, 22nm process and inclusion of intel hd gpu with 40 to 80 gflops (depending on eu count) and you think there will be no competition? Even the apq8064 adreno 320 only has approx 40-45 gflops but that doesn't include the modem so higher tdp .
Maybe the exynos 5250 with mali [email protected] 68 gflops will be a threat given release schedule but still, nearly matching single threaded performance with the best chip on the market (and with 5 year old architecture), and beating every ARM chip to date in java script for a first try/test the waters offering? Swap a gpu and add a core and its game on. And adding new architecture, 22nm, out of order instruction and hd graphics and ARM might have a problem until 64 bit ARM v8."
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My question is How true is this?
not publish the link to the site because I do not know if this is right in this forum.
I apologize for possible flaws in my English.
I'm having a super-smooth experience, so yeah, the hyper-threaded single-core chip is doing a very fine job compared to the ARM competitors.
But is it true that Intel will go out-of-order for their next architecture? Because the whole point behind Atom processors was to take advantage of Intel's advanced lithography and well tought architecture, then simplify it to make it consume much less energy (and go from out-of-order to in-order was one of those simplifications).
Well I always thought Intel smartphone chips were more powerful CPU wise but gpu wise its behind.
And christ you can quote all the figures you like but it doesn't mean it'll actually reach that. Its what the individual parts can achieve.
Put them into a phone and reduce the power consumption to an acceptable level = a lot less than quoted figures
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Galaxy Note 4 SM-910C(Exynos) and Galaxy Note 4 SM-910S(Snap Dragon)
The Samsung Galaxy Note 4 is at last official and the following thing we're holding up for is the official release date.
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Quick Review:
The display does not shock us as various leaks had officially uncovered that Galaxy Note 4 would accompany a 5.7inch Super AMOLED displays screen which upholds QHD resolution of 1440 x 2560 pixels.
As we had said before it supports 515ppi. The presentation certainly seems rich and brilliant however the QHD determination does not appear to be the main real motivation to buy for Note 4.
Outline :
Weighing 6.2 ounces, the Note 4 is heavier than the 5.9-ounce Note 3. The extra robustness is at any rate part of the way because of the Note 4′s metal edge, however the back is still a delicate touch plastic. Samsung selected an all-plastic chassis on the Note 3. The Note 4 is likewise somewhat taller and thicker than its ancestor (6.04 x 3.09 x 0.33 inches vs. 6 x 3.1 x 0.3 inches).
Cameras:
The Note 4 steps up the back camera's resolution from 13 MP to 16 MP, however that’s not the only improvement. Samsung added in optical image stabilization (OIS), which is incredible at capturing shots enduring as you zoom in. The organization claims you'll have the capacity to zoom up to 8x and still get a sharp pic.
Samsung has made its phablet more selfie-friendly, boosting the front camera's megapixel number from 2 MP on the Note 3 to 3.7 MP on the Note 4, while conveying a 90-degree wide-edge lens. You can go significantly more extensive than that, however you'll have to enter an extraordinary mode.
Spen:
Not at all like alternate telephones, Samsung's Galaxy Note family likewise offers a stylus, or S Pen, which has additionally been enhanced on the Galaxy Note 4. The new S Pen offers consumers a "significantly more credible pen experience," as per Samsung, and can even copy composition on paper with a wellspring or calligraphy pen.
Battery:
That battery is pretty much the same size as Note 3, however Samsung says it will charge to 50 percent in 30 minutes because of Qualcomm's Quickcharge engineering. That said, I'm concerned the denser screen will lead the Galaxy Note 4 to have shorter general battery life than the enduring Galaxy Note 3.
Here is my View post your views and thoughts below.
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because of ARMv8 & 64-Bit processors
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Octa-Cores that work simultaneously
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(i m not sure) better RAM bandwidth!
I prefer Exynos
Not very sure with which version I'll go for, but I seem to like Exynos, due to the HMP and lower clocked companion cores for battery life too
Also I'm to some extent familiar with the architecture of Exynos chips, so maybe it'll come in help while practicing development, but maybe I can learn about the Snapdragons too, the main thing I like about Krait architecture is the per core voltage control and dynamic body voltage adjustment on hardware level.
Is the Exynos better then the Snapdragon ?
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Where is the review ?
SamLayer said:
Is the Exynos better then the Snapdragon ?
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SD is much better when compared to exynos
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bala_gamer said:
Where is the review ?
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Above in the OP lol.
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This time the Exynos 5433 is much powerful and faster as compared to Snapdragon 805 variant. The exynos is capable of running all the eight cores simultaneously unlike the previous version in Note 3. Morever Exynos's LTE modem is of Cat 6 category whereas that of Snapdragon is Cat 4. Exynos is equipped with a 64 bit processor whereas the SD with 32 bit. Exynos also marks higher on the Antutu Benchmark. Therefore 910c is the killer variant this time!
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MoonSTRuK said:
This time the Exynos 5433 is much powerful and faster as compared to Snapdragon 805 variant. The exynos is capable of running all the eight cores simultaneously unlike the previous version in Note 3. Morever Exynos's LTE modem is of Cat 6 category whereas that of Snapdragon is Cat 4. Exynos is equipped with a 64 bit processor whereas the SD with 32 bit. Exynos also marks higher on the Antutu Benchmark. Therefore 910c is the killer variant this time!
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No, the Exynos has Cat4. while the Snapdragon has Cat6. Also, people are quite skeptical of the Exynos being 64 bit, in spite of the superior performance.
My bad! Yes you are right. ....Exynos is actually Cat 4.....I got confused between C and S. Thanks for the correction
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My bad! Yes you are right. ....Exynos is actually Cat 4.....I got confused between C and S. Thanks for the correction
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No problem, Samsung has a nag for playing with the specs of a single version, so it's bound to get confusing. Here are the 2 possible specs at the moment:
1.
CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 (SM-N910S), Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450, 32 bit.
GPU: Adreno 420
LTE: Cat6
2.
CPU: Exynos 5433 (SM-N910C), Quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53 & 1.9GHz quad-core Cortex-A57 (Possibly 64 bit, most likely 32 bit).
GPU: Mali-T760
LTE: Cat4
Dat Noob said:
No problem, Samsung has a nag for playing with the specs of a single version, so it's bound to get confusing. Here are the 2 possible specs at the moment:
1.
CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 (SM-N910S), Quad-core 2.7 GHz Krait 450, 32 bit.
GPU: Adreno 420
LTE: Cat6
2.
CPU: Exynos 5433 (SM-N910C), Quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A53 & 1.9GHz quad-core Cortex-A57 (Possibly 64 bit, most likely 32 bit).
GPU: Mali-T760
LTE: Cat4
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Exynos5 (Exynos5433) - 32-bit. Series Exynos6 & Exynos7 - 64-bit
Pako7 said:
Exynos5 (Exynos5433) - 32-bit. Series Exynos6 & Exynos7 - 64-bit
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How do we know which one is 64 bit among the exynos versions? What model would it be? I read the Antutu's benchmark tests a couple of days ago before the launching of Note 4. It compared the Exynos and the Snapdragon versions. Exynos was found to be superior. I wonder if same results would be maintained after the official launch?
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Or note 4 would not have a 64 bit version at all?
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MoonSTRuK said:
How do we know which one is 64 bit among the exynos versions?
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from source code in vger.kernel.org
Pako7 said:
Exynos5 (Exynos5433) - 32-bit. Series Exynos6 & Exynos7 - 64-bit
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I thought the same, but it seems that it is really 64 bit. Some information in Geekbench showed an internal "version" code for A57 cores. Maybe Samsung decided to not tell anything about it's 64 bit design because the S805 is still 32bit and they don't want to bother the users that buy the Qualcomm version. Hav read an interesting article about that. Will search for the link
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I thought the same, but it seems that it is really 64 bit. Some information in Geekbench showed an internal "version" code for A57 cores.
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I already know about GB
Maybe Samsung decided to not tell anything about it's 64 bit design because the S805 is still 32bit and they don't want to bother the users that buy the Qualcomm version.
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I think so too
1st Review out from Russia of SM-910C model (Exynos)
http://translate.google.com/transla...dbox=0&usg=ALkJrhhH_KG0kFV6aV7xO0DNHZMnsDIABQ
OIS in action vs GS5:
Improved low light photos, samples in the article. Dynamic range looks good.
GN4 vs GN3:
GN4 vs GS5:
NOTE: The benchmark scores look little less than what we have seen. Nothing to worry. I am sure the Geekbench test he ran is for this result: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/811052
This is the lowest number in the Geekbench database, and rest all others are much higher.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?dir=desc&q=universal5433&sort=score
I don't get it guys... Which one comes with 4G?
I want to buy this phone by pre order at some online store in indonesia, 8.999.000 in rupiah
In the specification tab, they doesn't mentioned 4G.. Only 3G with hexa core(i think its exynos)
Which series comes with 4G?
Thanks
ciklek said:
I don't get it guys... Which one comes with 4G?
I want to buy this phone by pre order at some online store in indonesia, 8.999.000 in rupiah
In the specification tab, they doesn't mentioned 4G.. Only 3G with hexa core(i think its exynos)
Which series comes with 4G?
Thanks
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Almost all the versions come with 4G. I think just the N910H doesn't.
There is no hexacore model, take care.
Lodix said:
Almost all the versions come with 4G. I think just the N910H doesn't.
There is no hexacore model, take care.
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Ohh sorry, i meant octa core. 1.9 GHz Octa Core Processor (1.9 GHz Quad + 1.3 GHz Quad core) and 2.5G (GSM/GPRS/EDGE) : 850/900/1800/1900 MHz | 3G (HSPA+ 42Mbps): 850/900/1900/2100 MHz
Really? so the note 4 mentioned above is N910H version? There's no specific processor mentioned, just like that one above...
Sorry for this question, but I'm very confuse about gpu of I9070,some people said "s advance have single gpu" but on website official novathor u8500 said "multi core gpu process graphics 2d and 3d" So s advance have single or dual gpu ? Thanks http://developer.sonymobile.com/knowledge-base/technologies/novethor-u8500/
S Advance has a single core Mali 400 MP GPU. And as far as I know, the Galaxy S2 also has a Mali 400 MP GPU - but its dual core (instead of just one core). If you read about Mali-400 MP in ARM's website (link), this is what you'll see:
Scalable from 1 to 4 cores the Mali-400 MP enables a wide range of different use cases, from mobile user interfaces up to smartphones, tablets and DTVs, to be addressed with a single IP. One single driver stack for all multi-core configurations simplifies application porting, system integration and maintenance. Multicore scheduling and performance scaling is fully handled within the graphics system, with no special considerations required from the application developer
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So this shows that different phones can use the same GPU but with different number of cores.
PS: Anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Sami Kabir said:
S Advance has a single core Mali 400 MP GPU. And as far as I know, the Galaxy S2 also has a Mali 400 MP GPU - but its dual core (instead of just one core). If you read about Mali-400 MP in ARM's website (link), this is what you'll see:
So this shows that different phones can use the same GPU but with different number of cores.
PS: Anyone is free to correct me if I'm wrong.
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Thanks for answer. It's very stranger because my galaxy S advance runs n.o.v.a 3 smooth and fast (mali400), and I have one tablet based allwinner A13 (mali 400), sometimes I got hard lags ( yes I always optimize my mb ram).