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[Q] Unlocked Bootloader VS Locked Bootloader.

Hey guys,
as we all know, there has been a work around to gain root access and flash custom recovery to locked bootloader devices.
The only thing i heard was, that by doing that, NFC would not work anymore (but can be fixed) and your bootloader will have the status changed to locked forever (also believe there is a fix for this)
So i just want you guys' insights on what are the advantages of bootloader unlocking apart from the above,
Cheers guys~

I'd also love to know what's not possible with a locked bootloader.
My biggest question is whether I could still use droidwall since that's what keeps me from getting huge accidental data bills.

- The NFC works, I just tried it with a credit card as well as with one of the smart tags that Sony gave with the box.
- The Bravia Engine is disabled, however there will eventually be a workaround for this one as you can already get Bravia Engine version 1 running whenever you wish even with the unlocked bootloader, not the version 2 just yet. However, my take on this is quite positive as I appreciate realistic colours more to over saturated bright and overly contrasting colours, hence why I don't like AMOLEDs for instance.
- Other than that I have not noticed anything different in my device. Mind you it's much better since the unlock, as I have already flashed a custom ROM, I'm using Revolution but there are some really good other ones too, with all the bloatware gone, you can clear the bloatware you do not want without a custom ROM. I also have a custom kernel now, using Doom's kernel with no overclocks.
- Oh and I also have a mod for configurable switches in my notifications area so no reason to go in and out of Settings application or use Sony's laggy widgets.
- The ability to use AdFree and other root requiring applications is a great plus for me as well.

I think its very confusing. My bootloader is unlockable, and i would like a custom rom, but not sure what to do, and what i will break and not break. Its a bit of a jungle.

AlienCraB said:
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- The Bravia Engine is disabled, however there will eventually be a workaround for this one .
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BE is DRM so umlocking means losing them forever, unless someone find how to relock BL again and restore BE
With unlocked BL you can flash any Rom and kernel.
With locked you can flash only stock based Rom and can't flash CM roms
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abd_alazeez2002 said:
BE is DRM so umlocking means losing them forever, unless someone find how to relock BL again and restore BE
With unlocked BL you can flash any Rom and kernel.
With locked you can flash only stock based Rom and can't flash CM roms
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There is a twrp for locked boot loaders now
Does that still mean we can only flash stock based ROMs?

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AlienCraB said:
- The NFC works, I just tried it with a credit card as well as with one of the smart tags that Sony gave with the box.
- The Bravia Engine is disabled, however there will eventually be a workaround for this one as you can already get Bravia Engine version 1 running whenever you wish even with the unlocked bootloader, not the version 2 just yet. However, my take on this is quite positive as I appreciate realistic colours more to over saturated bright and overly contrasting colours, hence why I don't like AMOLEDs for instance.
- Other than that I have not noticed anything different in my device. Mind you it's much better since the unlock, as I have already flashed a custom ROM, I'm using Revolution but there are some really good other ones too, with all the bloatware gone, you can clear the bloatware you do not want without a custom ROM. I also have a custom kernel now, using Doom's kernel with no overclocks.
- Oh and I also have a mod for configurable switches in my notifications area so no reason to go in and out of Settings application or use Sony's laggy widgets.
- The ability to use AdFree and other root requiring applications is a great plus for me as well.
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I read somewhere that bra via engine will still remain because the boot loader is untouched

spazzy1912 said:
There is a twrp for locked boot loaders now
Does that still mean we can only flash stock based ROMs?
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Twrp is just a recovery, like CWM recovery
So still you can only flash stock based Rom
To flash CM Rom or any Rom that is based on CM or even AOKP roms, you need unlocked BL.
These Roms use a different kernel than stock kernel.
Unlocked BL is needed to flash these custom kernels in kernel partition
Go to XS dev section, you will see alot of Roms that need unlocked BL
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abd_alazeez2002 said:
Twrp is just a recovery, like CWM recovery
So still you can only flash stock based Rom
To flash CM Rom or any Rom that is based on CM or even AOKP roms, you need unlocked BL.
These Roms use a different kernel than stock kernel.
Unlocked BL is needed to flash these custom kernels in kernel partition
Go to XS dev section, you will see alot of Roms that need unlocked BL
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ohh i see.
so i can still flash on doomlord's kernel because it is stock based right?

spazzy1912 said:
ohh i see.
so i can still flash on doomlord's kernel because it is stock based right?
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Sorry for confusing you like this.
I will say it in more clear way
With locked BL, the only thing you can do is to flash stock based roms.
With unlocked BL,
-can flash stock based roms,
-Custom based Roms,
-Stock based kernel
-Custom based kernel
So you can't flash doomlord's kernel with locked BL
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abd_alazeez2002 said:
Sorry for confusing you like this.
I will say it in more clear way
With locked BL, the only thing you can do is to flash stock based roms.
With unlocked BL,
-can flash stock based roms,
-Custom based Roms,
-Stock based kernel
-Custom based kernel
So you can't flash doomlord's kernel with locked BL
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Ohhh, thank you for your help

Hi, A quick question! Can I use a recovery for locked bootloader on my unlocked phone?
for example, this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2308493 can i use that on my unlocked bootloader?

abd_alazeez2002 said:
BE is DRM so umlocking means losing them forever, unless someone find how to relock BL again and restore BE
With unlocked BL you can flash any Rom and kernel.
With locked you can flash only stock based Rom and can't flash CM roms
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I'm not kidding: After I have unlocked my Xperia Z, BE2 and music info download still work properly.:laugh:

autumntactix said:
Can I use a recovery for locked bootloader on my unlocked phone?
for example, this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2308493?
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I'm not sure but doomlord suggests using a different one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42166335&postcount=11

mrbuddy said:
I'd also love to know what's not possible with a locked bootloader.
My biggest question is whether I could still use droidwall since that's what keeps me from getting huge accidental data bills.
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My favourite part with an unlocked bootloader is that with proper knowledge you can handle memory handling, CPU scheduling, under or over voltages on your CPU/GPU, etc.
So really the unseen side of things, my Xperia Z goes 2.5 days with one full charge with the modded kernel I have, using AOSP with nothing unused installed.
I wouldn't have been able to achieve that with a locked bootloader.
And I did not really like how overly saturated blues became with Bravia Engine anyway, so nothing lost on that side really.
I unlocked after the first 24hours of stock use.

autumntactix said:
Hi, A quick question! Can I use a recovery for locked bootloader on my unlocked phone?
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First off all, why have you posted a link to the S section when secondly, there is two types of recoveries you can find and should use in this section.

abd_alazeez2002 said:
Sorry for confusing you like this.
I will say it in more clear way
With locked BL, the only thing you can do is to flash stock based roms.
With unlocked BL,
-can flash stock based roms,
-Custom based Roms,
-Stock based kernel
-Custom based kernel
So you can't flash doomlord's kernel with locked BL
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Hi, as a beginner, can you tell me some of the "stock based roms" that can be flashed with a locked bootloader? many thanks

krypucine said:
Hi, as a beginner, can you tell me some of the "stock based roms" that can be flashed with a locked bootloader? many thanks
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All of them except the newer 4.2.2 leak based roms

flytomars said:
I'm not kidding: After I have unlocked my Xperia Z, BE2 and music info download still work properly.:laugh:
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Did you unlock your Xperia z or unlock the bootloader of the z?
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[Q] Is it worth unlocking bootloader?

I have C6903 .757 rooted using [NUT] way, is it worth to unlock my bootloader now, what I can get and what I will lost? beside thatis there any custom rom that better than stock rom for now?

IMHO not worth it. Keep your X-Reality and BIONZ and other Sony exclusive software. I hate buggy camera and sleep-of-death issues, so I keep my Z1 on 4.3
But keep an eye on this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2714333

nyongrand said:
I have C6903 .757 rooted using [NUT] way, is it worth to unlock my bootloader now, what I can get and what I will lost? beside thatis there any custom rom that better than stock rom for now?
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Sony stock ROM is the best
Except you don't want Sony UI,then you can unlock bootloader & flash CM11
You will lost DRM keys if you didn't backup,X-Reality won't work for Pictures & Movies

No feature will disappear from unlocking the bootloader. Stated by Sony themselves. Before 4.3 stuff did happen though.
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Where did sony say that?
Because on Sonys official site it says this
http://prntscr.com/3g3e61
taken from here
http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/

If I could I would. I want Miui and CM12.
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WE HOPE TO FIND WAY TO KEEP X.R WITH UB THE STOCK ROM NOT GOOD if anyone try aosp rom he's know or cm rom
-more customize more features more speed and more more more
but the camera app sucks

Avoid warranty
I think the worst cenario it's lose totally the warranty. I don't know if you relock bootloader the warranty back's together, but I don't think so:good:

7sen said:
but the camera app sucks
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We know that unfortunately.
thiagomed said:
I think the worst cenario it's lose totally the warranty. I don't know if you relock bootloader the warranty back's together, but I don't think so:good:
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When you relock it will be back to stock. So I guess you will not lose anything.

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gregbradley said:
Where did sony say that?
Because on Sonys official site it says this
http://prntscr.com/3g3e61
taken from here
http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
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Pre 4.3 this was the fact. Camera ceased to work and other functions aswell. The DRM keys did matter there. The tech guy from Sony also confirmed this.
Kitkat version though this is all fixed. And like he said to quote him "Nothing will change software wise with just unlocking a bootloader under Kitkat, aslong as you dont flash custom roms ofc."
So to translate this: The DRM keys aint used in KitKat. And it is very easy to confirm this yourself. Google the functions that people say will stop to work with no DRM keys. None of thoose has stopped to work with unlocked bootloader for me on KitKat 4.4.2.
And for the camera, the camera working worse under KitKat as you also can google and find information about. Unlocked as Locked doesent matter, and this is possibly one of the reasons why ppl still think, Bionz, X-Reality and other functions stop to work with unlocked bootloader.
But is it worth it? Well that is up for anyone to decide for themselves. Since KitKat, the phone aint working so well anyway imo. So if it would die on me i wouldnt care. I will probably not buy Sony in future though, they used to be good but something has happened.

For real?
eclyptos said:
We know that unfortunately.
When you relock it will be back to stock. So I guess you will not lose anything.
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Are you sure about that? Cus I do not unlock my bootloader yet because R$1500,00 is much money for avoid warranty in first days of use! LOL!
If it's true, i'll unlock and relock later..

thiagomed said:
Are you sure about that? Cus I do not unlock my bootloader yet because R$1500,00 is much money for avoid warranty in first days of use! LOL!
If it's true, i'll unlock and relock later..
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Positive.

Unlocking bootloader in 1 2 3...:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Now I'm curious:
How, where or why are custom ROMS faster than stock ROMS?
I really can't complain about the speed of my stock. I haven't unlocked my bl yet (no need for) but I doubt you'd see much difference in speed between stock und cfw.
It was different on my sxs. Latest aosp or fxp was definitely more fluid but the z1 is a powerhouse.
Sent from Xperia Z1

xXFlippyXx said:
Now I'm curious:
How, where or why are custom ROMS faster than stock ROMS?
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Nobody said they are more faster, they are tweeked but at the moment on Z1 they are in development so before see a wonderfull stable Custom Roms you have to wait.
BTW, many Custom Roms are based on Stock Kernel so you will never see any difference. The heart of the tweekness and fastness on Android it's the Kernel, it's the main reason.

nyongrand said:
I have C6903 .757 rooted using [NUT] way, is it worth to unlock my bootloader now, what I can get and what I will lost? beside thatis there any custom rom that better than stock rom for now?
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You can install CyanogenMod if your bootloader is unlocked. If you do that you will lose all your data and warranty but I think its worth it. You will have more control over your phone (privacy settings etc) and much more.
If you want to do that you should do a nandroid backup before and most important a TA backup. TA backup is for relock the bootloader if necessary (so you have warranty again). You can find TA backup tool in this forum, just search for it.
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If miui 5 release for our z1 it will not nedded to unlock bootloader also still not worth it because no rom after miui
Also how did you rooted 754
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xxxstar123 said:
Also how did you rooted 754
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You need to downgrade to other version (for example .257), then root this and do update to the new version. Then you will have 754 with root.
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Unlocking the BL is for rom development mainly. You will be able to load CM11, but so what. The stock rom is excellent for most people and its nowdays to tweak the interface in so many ways its silly.

Flashing ROM with Locked Bootloader?

Hi there,
At the moment I'm running Android 4.4.2 Stock ROM, but I want to switch to MIUI V5. I would like to know if it's possible to do this while having a locked Bootloader.
P.S.: First I used the towelroot-method to get root acces, then I installed SuperSU and CWM Recovery. So that's already done.

It should be possible. Take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...-miu-z-4-2-2-multilang-v2-5-10-3-1-2-t2467408
Just follow the steps for locked bootloaders.

gripfly said:
It should be possible. Take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xpe...-miu-z-4-2-2-multilang-v2-5-10-3-1-2-t2467408
Just follow the steps for locked bootloaders.
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Thank you for the fast reply! I'll try it. By the way are there any bugs in the ROM I've mentioned? I can't read any Chinese and Google Translation doesn't translate that well.

Isn't MIUI based on AOSP/CM? If it is, then you cannot flash it on a locked bootloader.
Edit - It seems the rom that gripfly linked to can be flashed on locked bootloaders. Disregard my post. ?
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kingvortex said:
Isn't MIUI based on AOSP/CM? If it is, then you cannot flash it on a locked bootloader.
Edit - It seems the rom that gripfly linked to can be flashed on locked bootloaders. Disregard my post. ?
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Too bad it's an outdated ROM. I would love to see the newest MIUI ROM running on this beauty, but I'm too scared to try it out and mess it up, and then risking to lose the DRM key.
Edit: Are there any good ROMS with nice GUI apart from Sony's UI for the Xperia Z? The MIUI ROM V5 is based on Android 4.2.2, which is more a downgrade than an upgrade...

tally114 said:
Too bad it's an outdated ROM. I would love to see the newest MIUI ROM running on this beauty, but I'm too scared to try it out and mess it up, and then risking to lose the DRM key.
Edit: Are there any good ROMS with nice GUI apart from Sony's UI for the Xperia Z? The MIUI ROM V5 is based on Android 4.2.2, which is more a downgrade than an upgrade...
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There are many good ROMs on the forum.
Actually, UI varies from person to person so it's very difficult to say which one is better, you can search in the forum and find a suitable one.
As for me, I highly recommend PA which include many good features.

Locked bootloader means stock based ROMs only.
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Firmware 108 vs 133 & TA partition restoring.

Wich firmware has less bugs and better battery life?
For me the custom kernels as trinity are consuming battery very fast.
If I relock my bootloader and then restore my TA partition with stock kernel and deodexed custom rom will I encounter any problem?

.133
Bigger is better but since .133 is carrier-specific ROM so you will dont need that much
And Trinity kernel is battery-friendly, you maybe set the wrong setting. I can squeeze out 20 hrs of battery life with extensive workloads (Email, phone call, FB, Twitter and game...)
To relock your bootloader, you just restore the TA. It will automatically lock the BL (Require stock kernel and if you backup TA in 4.2/4.3 ROM, you must downgrade to 4.2/4.3 and restore TA then upgrade to 4.4)

BlackSoulxxx said:
.133
Bigger is better but since .133 is carrier-specific ROM so you will dont need that much
And Trinity kernel is battery-friendly, you maybe set the wrong setting. I can squeeze out 20 hrs of battery life with extensive workloads (Email, phone call, FB, Twitter and game...)
To relock your bootloader, you just restore the TA. It will automatically lock the BL (Require stock kernel and if you backup TA in 4.2/4.3 ROM, you must downgrade to 4.2/4.3 and restore TA then upgrade to 4.4)
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Bro can you tell me how to setup trinity kernel? Maybe I messed it up with a bad move. I came from a G2 and battery life was amazing up to 17-20 hrs in stand by and 6-30 or 7 on screen. Using 30% brightness, full use of fb and whatsapp, few calls and H+ and LTE network.
And here the things just not work as good as before can u help me?

please provide fx trinity rom and kernel link for Xperia z1
Hii friend will you please provide me link to download fx trinity rom and kernel for Xperia z1 c6902...
Thanks in advance....

gurpreetsinghchandi said:
Hii friend will you please provide me link to download fx trinity rom and kernel for Xperia z1 c6902...
Thanks in advance....
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BlackSoulxxx said:
.133
Bigger is better but since .133 is carrier-specific ROM so you will dont need that much
And Trinity kernel is battery-friendly, you maybe set the wrong setting. I can squeeze out 20 hrs of battery life with extensive workloads (Email, phone call, FB, Twitter and game...)
To relock your bootloader, you just restore the TA. It will automatically lock the BL (Require stock kernel and if you backup TA in 4.2/4.3 ROM, you must downgrade to 4.2/4.3 and restore TA then upgrade to 4.4)
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I don't think .133 is just carrier specific - otherwise, why would Sony then bothering with releasing firmware dedicated kernel sources?

well, the 133 FW cannot be rooted directly by Towelroot. You have to downgrade the kernel to 108, root then upgrade the kernel.
So the kernel in 133 is not just carrier specific, it has changes in it that stop root.

huge diffrence between taken photos!!!WHY???

we all know if we unlock the bootloader we will lose the bionz
i've unlocked mine and lost it..but a few days before i was trying diffrent roms..flashed .757 FTF and took a few photos with it then flashed the 157 and customized it.....
last night i was viewing my album and saw the photos i took with 757
no bloody noise!!!!!
the noise was gone!!
pure black...i said maybe it got fixed or something but after i took the same photo in the same sitution with this 157 rom the noise was back!!!
why does the bionz work on 757 but not woeking in 157??
both FTF had the TA partion included
any idea???
is there any way make it work on this rom to?

haha well, yea sony is generous on 757 that left it useful for xda genius to make this thing........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672
here u go have fun

KWOKSFUNG said:
haha well, yea sony is generous on 757 that left it useful for xda genius to make this thing........
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672
here u go have fun
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already tried it....no diffrence...flashed it on unlock BL And Locked both
nothing..the noise is still there..
is there any hope that sony make it work on lollipop again like 757?
and i think it got even worse after flashing that zip!!!

--N7-- said:
already tried it....no diffrence...flashed it on unlock BL And Locked both
nothing..the noise is still there..
is there any hope that sony make it work on lollipop again like 757?
and i think it got even worse after flashing that zip!!!
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I've come across .757(locked and unlocked) to .108(unlocked) and .157(unlocked) but I've backup TA partition before unlock, maybe I will restore the TA to test again later.
In my experiences, in 4.4.2(757) the noise should be lesser but 4.4.4(108/157) partly fixed camera overheating and photo comes out sharper with better focus which meant the denoise algorithm is tuned down and .157 further fixed camera unavailable problem. It's not worth to go back .757 just for less noise, you've to pay for it. Less noise = softer image. The low-light algorithm in bootloader should only be kick-in in high ISO like 800 or even higher, normal usage is little to none different.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2730097
If you want better photo in .157, just flash Chocolatetrain's mod camera V8 from Z2 ported, the different is large. The stock camera in Z1 is no good in all ver.

TheEndHK said:
I've come across .757(locked and unlocked) to .108(unlocked) and .157(unlocked) but I've backup TA partition before unlock, maybe I will restore the TA to test again later.
In my experiences, in 4.4.2(757) the noise should be lesser but 4.4.4(108/157) partly fixed camera overheating and photo comes out sharper with better focus which meant the denoise algorithm is tuned down and .157 further fixed camera unavailable problem. It's not worth to go back .757 just for less noise, you've to pay for it. Less noise = softer image. The low-light algorithm in bootloader should only be kick-in in high ISO like 800 or even higher, normal usage is little to none different.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2730097
If you want better photo in .157, just flash Chocolatetrain's mod camera V8 from Z2 ported, the different is large. The stock camera in Z1 is no good in all ver.
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flashed it just now...but noise is still here....i just want that bloody noise to go away!!!
if i revert to 757 can i still flash the 4k...z3 home... lockscreen... etc............. from this rom on that to?
this noise is eating at me..........plus my z1 is not water proof any more and i have the autopower problem to...cant take this one

--N7-- said:
already tried it....no diffrence...flashed it on unlock BL And Locked both
nothing..the noise is still there..
is there any hope that sony make it work on lollipop again like 757?
and i think it got even worse after flashing that zip!!!
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ur... it isnt just about flashing the zip itself, u have to follow all the steps carefully
it worked for me
not sure for lollipop, maybe if sony is careless enough on something, it will happed

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flashed it just now...but noise is still here....i just want that bloody noise to go away!!!
if i revert to 757 can i still flash the 4k...z3 home... lockscreen... etc............. from this rom on that to?
this noise is eating at me..........plus my z1 is not water proof any more and i have the autopower problem to...cant take this one
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I believe .757 may used a stronger denoiser but it is also possible your camera got some problem and generated more noise because only you complaint it here. I'm on .157 unlocked with V8 cam mod, within 400ISO range or good lighting indoor, I don't see that much of a different.
The V8 mod should be for .108/.157 but I've heard it also working on .757 but no promise.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2779393
This one older 4K mod is for .757, should be better to flash it.

KWOKSFUNG said:
ur... it isnt just about flashing the zip itself, u have to follow all the steps carefully
it worked for me
not sure for lollipop, maybe if sony is careless enough on something, it will happed
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followed all of them a few days ago before flashing the 157 and deodex it....can you confirm its working on this rom either?

TheEndHK said:
I believe .757 may used a stronger denoiser but it is also possible your camera got some problem and generated more noise because only you complaint it here. I'm on .157 unlocked with V8 cam mod, within 400ISO range or good lighting indoor, I don't see that much of a different.
The V8 mod should be for .108/.157 but I've heard it also working on .757 but no promise.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2779393
This one older 4K mod is for .757, should be better to flash it.
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on iso 400 and good lighting there just so little noise almost unnoticible
this mod is defenetlly better than the original one
guess have to wait and see about the lollipop

--N7-- said:
on iso 400 and good lighting there just so little noise almost unnoticible
this mod is defenetlly better than the original one
guess have to wait and see about the lollipop
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hi bro (dadash!!! )
did you tried to go back on FW 757?
just try it
just go back to 757 and capture more photos!!!
i didn't see any different between 757 and 157!!!
all framework had that bloody noise

samadipoor2 said:
hi bro (dadash!!! )
did you tried to go back on FW 757?
just try it
just go back to 757 and capture more photos!!!
i didn't see any different between 757 and 157!!!
all framework had that bloody noise
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(fadaye aghaye samadipoor)
in 757 everything is ok.no noise in photos..but thats an older version of android so i prefer to use 157
in 757 there isnt any green and red dots in dark areas but in 108 and 157 there is alot of that kind of noise in photos!!

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(fadaye aghaye samadipoor)
in 757 everything is ok.no noise in photos..but thats an older version of android so i prefer to use 157
in 757 there isnt any green and red dots in dark areas but in 108 and 157 there is alot of that kind of noise in photos!!
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(kh kh kh, ghorbonet, masalan inja xda hastesh! Bazam karam dashti bia to profilam ke to emzam hast, mokhlesim!)
I just say it's possible that it happend by accident!
How can the old framework have better camera than the new one?
I just can believe it!!!
I can remember my experience in fw 757 and it was good with custom rom
But i don't remember that the photo doesn't have any noises
And if you believe that fw 757 was better and you don't want to go back, just use pc programs to remove noises!!!

samadipoor2 said:
(kh kh kh, ghorbonet, masalan inja xda hastesh! Bazam karam dashti bia to profilam ke to emzam hast, mokhlesim!)
I just say it's possible that it happend by accident!
How can the old framework have better camera than the new one?
I just can believe it!!!
I can remember my experience in fw 757 and it was good with custom rom
But i don't remember that the photo doesn't have any noises
And if you believe that fw 757 was better and you don't want to go back, just use pc programs to remove noises!!!
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((to and-roid bodim khedmaton mishnasimeton ))
anyway im no big fan of photography
and its confirmed that bionz is working on 757 even on UB
flash the ftf with TA and give it try
you will notice the diffrenece

--N7-- said:
((to and-roid bodim khedmaton mishnasimeton ))
anyway im no big fan of photography
and its confirmed that bionz is working on 757 even on UB
flash the ftf with TA and give it try
you will notice the diffrenece
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(che jaleb!)
I will test it
It's a shame that 757 capture better that the 157!

samadipoor2 said:
(che jaleb!)
I will test it
It's a shame that 757 capture better that the 157!
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lets hope the lollipop fix it

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lets hope the lollipop fix it
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I really don't have problem, .757 image is softer and blur that might be the reason less noise because heavy denoised. Anyhow, Z1 camera just not good(it's definitely doing it's job but not close to the top quality), don't expect excellent quality without upgrade your phone to Z3/Z4.
I hope lollipop will be a bit better but it seems delay to April/May(Z3/Z3c on Feb and Z2 on March) and I think I can't wait I will just switch to Z3c or Galaxy Alpha or even Galaxy S6 after 1 to 2 months. Originally, I want Z4/Z4c but they hit a big delay til May/June now.

--N7-- said:
followed all of them a few days ago before flashing the 157 and deodex it....can you confirm its working on this rom either?
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did u flash 157 and deodex bla bla bla, THEN INSTALL THE MOD before u actually boot??
i use ihackers v5 by the way

KWOKSFUNG said:
did u flash 157 and deodex bla bla bla, THEN INSTALL THE MOD before u actually boot??
i use ihackers v5 by the way
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nuh...anyway im way behind that now..it doesnt matter anymore...thanks for the help bro..

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nuh...anyway im way behind that now..it doesnt matter anymore...thanks for the help bro..
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Oh... probably that's why u failed
this method is never too late, and photo really looks better by then