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I have been looking for this since I first started using Windows Mobile.
Unfortunately, most of the softwares out there (because they are not built into the ROM) can not reject calls without the other side knowing. I have tried every software out there, all of them are the same, the caller will hear a ring, or part of a ring, then they will get a busy signal (rejected).
I can't believe this is hard to create, I use to have it 12 years ago in my BASIC alcatel phone. When a black listed caller dials, they get nothing .. or get an out of coverage message from the operator. I believe the way it worked, is that the phone detects the caller number, BEFORE responding that it has acknowledged the call and is ringing.
I guess that is why I am saying that it is built in to the ROM as a driver or something, and not just a software.
Any Ideas, thoughts, where I can find this, anyone WILLING to make it ?
I know there are some recent roms being created that has the call blocking feature built in. i'm using one those roms, which is indicated in my signature. when u mentioned that you've tried them (call blocking applications) all, were they free and/or commercial apps, or apps created in the development/hacking section? Collectively speaking, there's alot of those types of applications floating out there, but maybe you've already tried those.
pheroah said:
I have been looking for this since I first started using Windows Mobile.
Unfortunately, most of the softwares out there (because they are not built into the ROM) can not reject calls without the other side knowing. I have tried every software out there, all of them are the same, the caller will hear a ring, or part of a ring, then they will get a busy signal (rejected).
I can't believe this is hard to create, I use to have it 12 years ago in my BASIC alcatel phone. When a black listed caller dials, they get nothing .. or get an out of coverage message from the operator. I believe the way it worked, is that the phone detects the caller number, BEFORE responding that it has acknowledged the call and is ringing.
I guess that is why I am saying that it is built in to the ROM as a driver or something, and not just a software.
Any Ideas, thoughts, where I can find this, anyone WILLING to make it ?
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1st off, change your number
if that doesn't suite your needs make a fake dial tone which states your number is not in service as your voicemail while using call firewall. after a few weeks the person will give up calling you. Callers will receive one full ring and it will go to your new fake voicemail after blocking them, which they will perceive as your phone being turned off or changed your number.
common sense now pay me.
hahahah nice one .. except the keyword here is UNDETECTABLE ... if they know i changed my number or i am blocking them, they will find me and ask for the NEW number ....
As I said before, the only device I saw that feature on, was the really old alcatel models; which didn't give you a ring, didn't give you a busy tone, probably just ignored the request coming in from the telco when it is one of the black listed numbers.
Nice try, but I would pay you, if you could do the same on windows mobile. By the way I was testing an alpha versio of the cruise before it was launched, and it actually (accidently) opened the speaker, before you actually picked up the phone call, so the other side could hear you, before you even answer.
Thus, I am sure these things are possible, if there is someone who has the knowledge, and power to play with the operator
I haven't tried anything comercial, didn't find what i was looking for. If you know of any comercial software or freeware that does what i am stating. i.e. doesn't ring before it blocks the call. That would be great
I have something called MAGICALL, and it works great. You can set it to pick up then hang up, however the best part is that the call doesnt "come through" or let the phone ring. Unless you specify the software to give you a pop up message indicating it blocked a call. I love it since it doesnt even let the phone ring, its like if you never got called.
Same thing, I already tried MagiCall and it rings once to the caller, and then disconnects. Very obvious that you are avoiding the person.
I currently use a free voicemail feature called YouMail, which has call filtering and call blocking features. You can block calls (I believe) and also create a unique voicemail greetings for those you want/trying to avoid as well. www.youmail.com
I also use magicall for this. As an action I choose 'ignore' and then the caller just hears the phoen ringing, the connection is not broken. And you, well you hear and see nothing so you are not disturbed. Is that not what you want/?
Not exactly, ignore is a nice feature if you dont' want to be disturbed, but if someone is constantly bugging you; you would like them not to even reach your phone (so they don't come next day in the office, and say I left you three missed calls, and you didn't answer me).
It would be easier if they just got a this phone is out of coverage (or something similar) from the operator; then you can always blame the operator, that they couldn't reach you ... you get my drift ?
Yeah, I get your drift. But, if you're not reachable, then I guess it's the provider that sends back a message to the caller. I don't think your phone can send that message to the caller.
Moreover in most cases if you're not reachable then the caller also gets sent to your voicemail and he can also leave a message and come to you next day asking why you didn't react to his voice messages.
So the only option would be to send a message back saying that the number doesn't exist. But again, you would have to be able to spoof a provider based message for that.
I see these options when a caller really wants to get hold of you and you don't want to react:
* drop the call after 1 ring: caller notices he gets dropped, gets pissed an comes to see you
* send message back saying you're out of coverage: caller leaves message, which you ignore, caller gets pissed and comes to see you
* send a message back saying that the number doesn't exist: caller inquires whether you changed number, finds out you didn't, gets pissed and comes to see you
* silently ignore him: caller leaves a message, which you ignore, caller gets pissed and comes to see you.
Seems you're screwed either way
Why not simply answer the call and tell the caller to f*ck off. He's bound to get pissed also but at least he'll leave you alone and you'll feel relieved.
Well for one, I don't use voice mail ... secondly, because it is the provider that sends the message, it is authentic....
So if your mobile ... somehow ... ignores the call coming from the provider ... the provider sends a message saying that the mobile is out of coverage ...
pheroah said:
hahahah nice one .. except the keyword here is UNDETECTABLE ... if they know i changed my number or i am blocking them, they will find me and ask for the NEW number ....
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Hmm, you're asking for someone to develop a piece of software because you have no spine? I know of no Java/.Net/etc API that is better than the truth. Tell the person to leave you be. The currently available call firewalls work great for when you need to be in a "Call Free Environment."
It has nothing to do with my spine; and I currently have NO ONE harasing me; but I believe that the current Call firewalls have a disadvantage, and lack a feature.
I wish there was someone in XDA-Developers who is willing to spend some time to make some adjustments to one of the ROMs to have this built in. Especially as this feature is available in historic phones that have a lot less features than a WM.
Im also using Magicall for this & its working great, the other party doen't even hear a ring. It has many other features too.
I woke up yesterday morning and had an idea for an app...
Now im not a coder so im not sure how easy it would be but im thinking alot of it should be pretty simple.
Now to the core of the app.
My thoughts are for an app that goes and retrieves your voicemail and saves it as a mp3 on your phone.
1. When a message is recieved from a certain number the app is triggered
2. The app starts recording the voice mail that is left.
3. (this is the tricky part) detect when the voicemail has finish and send the no. to delete the message. For my voicemail i press 3 to delete the messages.
4. Hang up the call and save the message to your phone.
Now there is a few reasons behind this.
It will save on money for some people, as i know here in Aus some companies charge to ring your voicemail no. So this app could download it and you could listen to it as much as possible.
If its important you could save it off to your computer or email to someone else to listen to.
As i said im not a coder but i thought this might be a good idea for someont o look into. Would have been good for the ADC2 but entries have finished for that now.
Anyway if any developers want to run with this go a head.
Great idea! But it has already been done. Check the market
seriously, lol
Whats the name of it
Thanks for the heads up
pf fusion voicemail, youmail I think, tmobile visual voicemail. I personally use pf fusion visual voicemail. It saves the messages to your sd card, has a nice user interface, and also backs them up to their server so you can retrieve them online.
lookout4theyeti said:
pf fusion voicemail, youmail I think, tmobile visual voicemail. I personally use pf fusion visual voicemail. It saves the messages to your sd card, has a nice user interface, and also backs them up to their server so you can retrieve them online.
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youmail does exactly the same thing. in addition to that, if you buy a youmail premium subscription (they have several levels depending on how many voicemails you regularly get) you can get the voicemails transcribed to text and displayed as well.
another one to add to the list is google voice. also does the above mentioned features.
Thanks for your suggestions everyone.
There is an issue with the suggestions though.
I live in Australia and all the options are for the US.
YouMail and PhoneFusion both need your voicmail to be diverted to them and GoogleVoice isnt here yet.
What I was thinking of is something that runs from your phone.
The App calls your pre defined Voicemail number and records the message and saves it to your phone.
Would work worldwide and you wouldnt need to change your voicemail details.
Anyway, just a thought
I understand what you're trying to say and from a developer standpoint, I can fill you in as to why it wouldnt work.
First, voicemail is like call forwarding. After your phone stops ringing, nothing is actually happening on your phone. The call is forwarded after a preset number of rings, or an action (like pressing the end key to ignore the call) to a voicemail server, which answers and records the message. At that point, your phone is completely out of the loop, so the idea of having it record to both the phone and the voicemail server is dead right there because it just cant be done. The way youmail, t-mobile vvm, google voice and phonefusion simulate this is by recording the message on their servers and then downloading it to your phone using your data connection.
Now, it would be possible to have your phone do the recording after a certain number of rings, like an answering machine, but it would be ridiculously process intensive because it would have to be running at all times. This would do two things:
1. slow down your phone considerably.
2. eat battery like you wouldnt believe.
And whats the point of having something like this if your phone is going to be dead all the time and unable to record messages anyway?
So yes, its possible, but not feasible. GV should be in australia soon, seeing as the wave development team is entirely based there. So keep your fingers crossed until then.
ok I wanted this app too, but you think too hard.
Disable provider voicemail.
After 10 rings, let phone pick up call and play message. Then a beep, and the phone starts recording.
No external voicemail server needed, just have an anwering machine application.
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Now, it would be possible to have your phone do the recording after a certain number of rings, like an answering machine, but it would be ridiculously process intensive because it would have to be running at all times. This would do two things:
1. slow down your phone considerably.
2. eat battery like you wouldnt believe.
And whats the point of having something like this if your phone is going to be dead all the time and unable to record messages anyway?
So yes, its possible, but not feasible.
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Why would slow your phone down so much? It could be service, not doing anything untill a call is recieved. If it rings too long it takes over.
It doesn't need to record all the time.
Try HulloMail
can't find HulloMail in the market
i also would like to have this "answering machine" app... and I also don't understand why this would slow down the phone, or eat up a lot of battery. as someone said already, it would run in the background (like "toggle settings" "missed call" and all the other services do) and just really start to work when a call comes in and it has to play a message and record the callers message.
the only downside (with which i can live) is certainly that the phone has to be switched on all the time, because off it couldn't record anything. for me that is no problem, i have a docking station at home and in the office, so when i am not running around, it is charged.
technically i see this as very feasible
i wonder whether devs shy away from this... because actually doing this is a major attack at the "revenue machine" of mobile operators, because - well - a local soft answering machine would take a huge amount of calling minutes away from the operators.
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First, voicemail is like call forwarding. After your phone stops ringing, nothing is actually happening on your phone. The call is forwarded after a preset number of rings, or an action (like pressing the end key to ignore the call) to a voicemail server, which answers and records the message. At that point, your phone is completely out of the loop, so the idea of having it record to both the phone and the voicemail server is dead right there because it just cant be done.
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Actually that's not exactly true. If you take a look in the Android Call Settings. Under GSM/CDMA Call Settings > Call Forwarding, you'll see that Call Forwarding when busy, unanswered and unreachable can all be disabled. It's possible one could write a program to catch the call after it rings X times, but I'm not sure if Android has that kind of hook in its API yet.
But as for it being impossible due to the forwarding, that's utterly false.
Quite simple.
Cancel the carrier answering service. (I hate the term "voicemail" -- everyone who uses it should be shot dead).
Have the program answer the phone after some defined number of rings and record it.
1) It would NOT slow down your phone.
2) It would NOT eat battery.
Don't know where that guy got the idea that it would... it WON'T.
Hi I'm currently running Froyo from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...09493&page=603
it runs great until someone calls me. It freezes when I answer the call..is this a ram issue? I haven't tried texting or other messaging. I recently ran Gingerbread from the same thread and it froze after trying to run google maps, after which i couldn't get haret to run again.
I did a hard reset then installed froyo.
I have a HTC Warhawk (topaz) running WinMo 6.5
plz any suggestions?
NVM
Actually its not working anymore....It happens when I get a call from my brother, but whats weird is that his girlfriend (who also uses android?) can call me just fine. He has a regular cellphone with at&t (same company as me). He says that first it connected but then goes to my voicemail in google. (I have google voice installed). Is it a google voice support issue?
heyo FIXED IT BY INSTALLING GINGERBREAD....done
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I can now make calls, but I can't receive them. All incoming cals go to my google voicemail for some reason even though the voice mail is set up to be my carrier and they call me with my phone number not my google voice number.
I've found other forums such as PPc say that certain task killers will stop incoming calls and such so I'm going to uninstall it....cross my fingers
Okay update:::
I have uninstalled advanced task killer and receive calls...it just freezes the phone after 9 seconds of being connected.???!?!?!?!?!?
Is this a rooted issue
Please someone answer me.
Fixed sorta
Okay, got it all figured out, put my sleep mode = 2 or 4 and that fixed it, also underclocked it to save some battery life I put it on 450MHz instead of 528MHz
Unfortunately the GPS seems to be the new problem hopefully thejokah and gang will improve upon this soon.
Thanks guys you're doing great.
Is there a way to make VoIP calls through Android Auto? I read some threads on a different website that said Hangouts Dialer is not supported (yet?), but I'm wondering if there is another way to use VoIP through AA?
I am a Sprint customer on an unlimited everything plan that costs me only $60/month after all the taxes and fees. I get good coverage in my home area and for the most part wherever I've been traveling. Ive been out of contract for sometime, but my galaxy S4 is starting to feel a bit dated. Unfortunately all the new Sprint phones are Tri-band Spark models and don't support simultaneous voice and data unlike my current phone. I just got the Pioneer AVH 4100NEX and I'm loving Android Auto. I frequently use Google Maps when in the car for a long period of time and if I were to upgrade to a new Sprint Spark phone I'd lose the ability to have it running while taking calls in the car. THe only work-around I can think of would be to use a VoIP dialer so that my calls are also via data...
The answer to your question is no. With that said, Maps caches a fair amount of data when navigating, so unless you're on the phone for long periods of time (or try to reroute during a call) you should be good.
Also note Maps now allows you to cache specific areas to your phone which can be used offline for navigation and routing.
Ill try giving the google maps cache thing a try, but I see the potential problem of my crappy galaxy S4's storage capacity being an issue if saving a significant amount of data. Its only 16GB and less than 9GB of that is usable space with the barebones installation - much of that which I've used up with apps that I routinely use. Fortunately it looks like there are several supported apps with either free or cheap ($3/mo) voice data calling available that work with AA. Whether these would work with my native number so as to be a viable option when people are calling my cell number I'm not sure... Text Me, textPlus, Skype, ICQ video calls & chat are currently available so I'll have to check those out. Another option I guess would be to get AppRadio unchained reloaded and use that instead of AA
Does anyone know if there are any plans for integrating data calls through Google Hangouts app (or another VoIP Dialer) into Android Auto in the future?
I don't think Google has made ANY* statements/promises about future features in Android Auto. But feel free to ask them on Google+ or where-ever.
*Only exception I can think of is a positive response to a question about somehow integrating Waze into AA. But no timeline for that.
... But you'd think that supporting VOIP at some point would make sense, unless Google needs to keep the carriers happy.
The long answer is YES, but limited:
Try this: Install AA and WhatsApp in you mobile. Start the AA in your HU as regular. Then, with you mobile connected and with MOBILE screen (type multi-tasking button) and open the WhatsApp in the mobile... then make a VOIP call...
Then you show that at this moment the Bluetooth of the HU routes the call, and the AA in the screen show the call... All as a regular voice call.
Then the only missing feature is that Google needs to include the voice command for VOIP calls (send the command to the message app) and/or using the dialer (agenda).
I hope soon this will included by default!
manos78 said:
The long answer is YES, but limited:
Try this: Install AA and WhatsApp in you mobile. Start the AA in your HU as regular. Then, with you mobile connected and with MOBILE screen (type multi-tasking button) and open the WhatsApp in the mobile... then make a VOIP call...
Then you show that at this moment the Bluetooth of the HU routes the call, and the AA in the screen show the call... All as a regular voice call.
Then the only missing feature is that Google needs to include the voice command for VOIP calls (send the command to the message app) and/or using the dialer (agenda).
I hope soon this will included by default!
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Thanks for the reply. I'll try this out today and see if that works with my setup. When you say that the calls will be made "All as a regular voice call" you mean that the process of answering/making calls is similar to voice call? I'm hoping that it still would use the WhatsApp VoIP data service because thats the main reason I'd want to use this feature.
Is the reason why you use this method because you also have Sprint and don't have simultaneous voice an data??
Sadly this is still an issue 14 months later, and yes, it's because of Sprint's refusal to allow simultaneous data/voice...
Did WhatsApp solve the problem for you? Is there anything new that would work? I love using AA (phone only, not car) but losing data isn't always an option.
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Sadly this is still an issue 14 months later, and yes, it's because of Sprint's refusal to allow simultaneous data/voice...
Did WhatsApp solve the problem for you? Is there anything new that would work? I love using AA (phone only, not car) but losing data isn't always an option.
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I actually ended up switching to T-Mobile almost exclusively for this reason. I found a good deal with them that allows unlimited music streaming (which works out great with Android Auto) and now I don't have to worry about being able to use voice/data at the same time while I'm driving on longer trips (i.e. using Google Maps, listening to Google Play Music, and get a voice call at the same time). I am using my Google Voice number and get Hangouts messages passed through Android Auto and use the default dialer with my GV number as well.
kjdBonez said:
I actually ended up switching to T-Mobile almost exclusively for this reason. I found a good deal with them that allows unlimited music streaming (which works out great with Android Auto) and now I don't have to worry about being able to use voice/data at the same time while I'm driving on longer trips (i.e. using Google Maps, listening to Google Play Music, and get a voice call at the same time). I am using my Google Voice number and get Hangouts messages passed through Android Auto and use the default dialer with my GV number as well.
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I hear that, but that 50% off was just too good to give up, even with the drawbacks...
Maybe more of a hardware question than an app question, but it happens with this particular app. I needed a texting app for my stock K1 running LP 5.1.1
I decided upon MightyText as I didn't want another phone number as some of the other apps provide. MightyText syncs my phone and the K1 within seconds. If I get a text to the phone, I get a notification on the tab within a second or two. Same happens if I send a text from the tablet, I get a notification on the phone again within a second or two. I realize that the phone is using it's cellular radio to send the text. Phone is a rooted LG Optimus G Pro running KK.
Here's where it gets strange! If I turn off WiFi and BT on the phone, when I write a text on the tablet and hit send, my phone receives and sends the text. WiFi and BT are still off. I looked to see if the app was somehow turning the radios on, on the phone, but it looks like they are staying off (unless they are coming on for a fraction of a second). I'm trying to figure out how the tablet is communicating with the phone if the radios are turned off. Also, the app has a phone icon. if I hit the phone icon on the tablet app, the phone makes a call to whoever I happened to be texting. I cannot talk through the tablet (I don't think), but the call does go through. I'm unsure what the functionality of this item is...why would I want the tablet to initiate a phone call when I cannot talk through the tablet?
Phone radio you mean phone, internet (3G/4G) here?
Mighty text working through network/internet. I will take simple explanation like this. SMS -> your phone -> SMS send to mighty text service -> mighty text service passes it to your table. Similar your tablet sends the text -> text go to mighty text service -> Mightytext service passes it to your device AND to the receiver on your behalf.
MightyText function like a bridge to connect your phone and other device and running through the internet.
Once your device connects with MightyText service, MightyText will become a behalf assistant to receiving and send your message.
Thats mean your sensitive information will be readable by a 3rd person (or group person who know?)