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It seems Google has been so on point with nexus 4 and new nexus 7 plus all the updated apps I truly don't understand the point of the moto x. I mean at 200 on contract why would anyone buy this phone. Even though Google doesn't make the nexus why compete against yourself.
I have a feeling the nexus phone might either go away or not even be anything major this year. Its almost November what new processor would go in it. I am thinking this year the nexus 5 will be made by HTC and cost a lot more.
For some reason I like the material for the new nexus 7 and would like that as the back of the next nexus.
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Wasn't it confirmed that LG are making the nexus 5? Usually oems get two shots..... I liked the lockscreen on the moto X
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Fataldesain said:
It seems Google has been so on point with nexus 4 and new nexus 7 plus all the updated apps I truly don't understand the point of the moto x. I mean at 200 on contract why would anyone buy this phone. Even though Google doesn't make the nexus why compete against yourself.
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I mean, are they serious? Do they really think this is in the same league as the Galaxy S4 or iPhone 5 available at the same price?
I'm worried about a Nexus 5 now too. Cannibalize sales with a Nexus device or price the next Nexus way higher. Only the former is appealing to me and I'm sure it's not to Google.
I think the moto x is going to be a Microsoft kin type of failure. Is there some hidden features I am missing? HTC one, s4, new iPhone and even the nexus 4 are all better and same price. Why release all these versions like who cares for a dev edition x. I was thinking this phone would be free on contract and that would be the selling point.
Highly doubt a new nexus happening this year. I see Google just making the dev phones now.
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Wasn't it confirmed that LG are making the nexus 5? Usually oems get two shots..... I liked the lockscreen on the moto X
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LG said no.
Nexus 5 will be made by LG and so the Moto X does not have any bearing on it, or the Nexus program until such time that Motorola becomes a Nexus manufacturer.
This is just Moto still sucking. Not as terrible as before, but still bad.
Google needs to just take full reins of Motorola and turn them into a pure hardware arm of Google and not try to please everyone and end up pleasing no one.
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LG said no.
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They said no but they changed there mind. They just wanted to keep it a secret.
Also Moto X is only going to be released in the US as far as I read, which makes sense as its made in the US and customization from other countries will take time and effort.
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They said no but they changed there mind. They just wanted to keep it a secret.
Also Moto X is only going to be released in the US as far as I read, which makes sense as its made in the US and customization from other countries will take time and effort.
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Oh, I see. I don't see why they won't make their phones through Motorola since they own them. Better than paying Microsoft for phones that profit other companies.
I think Nexus 5 is the last project of the Nexus. Then Google completely focused on Motorola phones.
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Since the Nexus 4 is rather faulty imo (both H/W rev. 10 & rev. 11) - bad battery performance, getting abnormally warm during normal use (hate it), poor software optimization etc, I doubt that Google will keep rolling the nexus project along with LG. Samsung were fine partners.
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Since the Nexus 4 is rather faulty imo (both H/W rev. 10 & rev. 11) - bad battery performance, getting abnormally warm during normal use (hate it), poor software optimization etc, I doubt that Google will keep rolling the nexus project along with LG. Samsung were fine partners.
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Not quite sure what you are talking about. If you are facing all those problems, try using stock everything and see if the problem persists. There are 6 Nexus 4s among my family and friends and we dont face any bad battery performance, any stutters or anything. We are all on stock.
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Since the Nexus 4 is rather faulty imo (both H/W rev. 10 & rev. 11) - bad battery performance, getting abnormally warm during normal use (hate it), poor software optimization etc, I doubt that Google will keep rolling the nexus project along with LG. Samsung were fine partners.
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You never had a HTC One X? This gets way hotter than the Nexus 4.
Plus Nexus 4 back is made of glass, which is the reason you feel the heat more. All other phone such as HTC One and Samsung S4 has the same problem. This is due to the Snapdragon chip, not because of LG.
why not in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021559]
After owning a HTC One and moving to the Galaxy S4, I went back to the beautiful White Nexus 4. The feel in the hand of the nexus 4 is superior to any phone I have owned even though it has some lower specs
not worried here, Moto X is aimed to completely different kind of users, Nexus is aimed more for developers and Android Fans, Moto X has a locked bootloader and will be distributed via carriers. I think that the challenge is for Samsung or HTC which sells devices in similar conditions (not to mention apple). I Also think it depends of the kind of user you are.
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After owning a HTC One and moving to the Galaxy S4, I went back to the beautiful White Nexus 4. The feel in the hand of the nexus 4 is superior to any phone I have owned even though it has some lower specs
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Completely agree. Although i own both HTC One and Nexus 4, i find myself using my Nexus 4 more than my HTC One.And if Google was to make it their last project, they may as well go out with a bang! I'm talking Sony Xperia Z water proof body, Nokia's 41MP with 6 or 7 (i dont know how many they have now lol) elements camera lens, and full AOSP OS = my dream phone.
Behold The Google Nexus Lumia Z....is what i'm thinking lol.
I just want the moto x to be ported
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Everyone something new comes out everyone starts complaining. So what that the moto x is running near stock with some cool features. So what that battery life is supposedly improved. So what that the camera is far superior. So what that Motorolas radios are usually really good. So what that benchmarks are on par with stock Nexus 4. So what that there will be a 32 GB Model. All the things that everyone complains about with the Nexus 4 is improved upon with the moto x. I love my Nexus 4. But I'm really tempted to get the developer addition depending on the cost. My concern is that asop based roms will not have all the features working since I'm sure all the teams are closed source
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I just want the moto x to be ported
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Same heree or I want these features in KLP or some kind of Google update.. but let's not complain and see what Google will give our Nexus.
it's got a nice lockscreen hopefully someone can port it when the device is opened by devs
I really like the Moto X but it doesnt seem to have much support from xda. What do you guys think?
Doesn't really need support. The out of box experience is virtually flawless.
Moto X on Verizon
Would love to hear from people on this. I am on Verizon and in the same boat. Anyone had the S4 and switch to the moto x?
I moved from the htc one to the Moto X and I have no regrets whatsoever. Better battery, better in the hand, no bloatware. It's like a Nexus you can buy on subsidy.
What you get from HTC One and GS4:
Better hardware, often lag and stuttering, more dev support, 1080p displays, slow updates, better camera, worse battery life
What you get from Moto X:
Worse hardware, no lag ever (games and applications load noticeably faster than the one and the S4), less deuv support, 720p display that has great color, updates faster than most nexus devices (got 4.4 on moto x faster than on Nexus 10, 7, 4, htc one gpe, and gs4 gpe), worse camera (but starts up faster and is still reasonable quality), easily 20+ hour battery life, active notifications, touchless control, virtually stock android, and much more...
Up to you
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I really like the Moto X but it doesnt seem to have much support from xda. What do you guys think?
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I think that should be a VERY short debate.
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Would love to hear from people on this. I am on Verizon and in the same boat. Anyone had the S4 and switch to the moto x?
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My comments on the issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538323
Active notifications. Enough said. I can't go to any other phone because of this feature alone, and I've had the s4 and HTC one. If you enjoy aosp then this is even better
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Active notifications. Enough said. I can't go to any other phone because of this feature alone, and I've had the s4 and HTC one. If you enjoy aosp then this is even better
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Because s4 had amoled, you could use Dynamic Notifications, which was the same thing. It actually had even more customizability than Active Notifications.
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Because s4 had amoled, you could use Dynamic Notifications, which was the same thing. It actually had even more customizability than Active Notifications.
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I actually didn't care for dynamic notifications, yes it had more features but I didn't work as flawless. 99 times out of a hundred when I grab my phone and look at it the time would show and I could unlock my screen. I have hit my power button to turn on my screen maybe 10 times since I bought it.
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I actually didn't care for dynamic notifications, yes it had more features but I didn't work as flawless. 99 times out of a hundred when I grab my phone and look at it the time would show and I could unlock my screen. I have hit my power button to turn on my screen maybe 10 times since I bought it.
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True. It was not flawless. And I love that the Moto just turns on even with the slightest nudge. For the s4, that option sucked.
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True. It was not flawless. And I love that the Moto just turns on even with the slightest nudge. For the s4, that option sucked.
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Exactly, that's probably why I'll stick with moto phones for another generation or two.
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What do you need xda support for? To remove a bunch of crap or an aosp ROM with the latest android version?
You are in good hands... Moto X doesn't need that. You thinking about that Samsung Galaxy S4 at this point? Please don't buy that plastic crapped with ugly touchwiz. At least the HTC one is a beautiful piece of a phone.
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Here's the way I look at it. The Moto X can do things no other phone can do. With root and xposed I can do what most roms can do. Easy decision.
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Yep, the lack of development us because all you need is root. There's no need for custom ROMs. All you need is stock, or root + xposed framework.
Sent from my Moto X, please forgive any misswypes and forgotten words.
I have owned all 3 devices on Verizon. I started with the S4, and returned it for what the salesman said was a silly reason. The reason being the back button was on the wrong side of the screen for my preference, and I couldn't reach across the screen with my thumb and hit the back button easily.
I traded it back in within the 14 day trial on the HTC One. I really like the HTC one and the speakers. I also like the ability to turn it into a TV remote control. It has eye appeal, people think it looks cool and ask what kind of phone it is. I didn't like the power and volume buttons that are flush. I found that I had to look and make sure I was pushing in the right spot.
I really wanted to try the Moto X though, with the notifications and voice monitoring. It was a bonus that I was able to get kit kat on the second day I had it, and even cooler that it was rooted the day after that on kit kat. I usually trade phones once a month with people on craigslist just so I can try out something different, but I really like this phone.
You'll probably get biased opinions since you're posting in the Moto X forum, but here's my $.02.
I've been doing the xda/android/rom thing since the original droid. This is the first phone that has felt fine out of the box and I haven't even bothered to check to see if root and/or unlocked bootloaders have been achieved. My last phone was the GS3.
After looking around at everything I realized that all phones are basically the same. You interact with all of them the same way and they provide information in the same way. The only differences are size and quality issues (camera, screen, battery, etc...). The only unique phones are the Note 3 (with its active digitizer/stylus) and the Moto X. I was really leaning toward the note 3 since I jot down a lot of notes at work. Then I got my wife a Moto X. Two days later I had to have one. The real kicker for me was how it changes how I use my phone. Active notifications are nice and really handy, but I'm probably one of the few who uses touchless control a lot. The hands-free texting works great (especially while in the car). I use Google Now reminders several times a day. If I'm commuting and I remember something that needs be done, it's great to just say it and have my phone remind me. I find that I'm using Google now a lot. For example - If I'm cooking and need to make a conversion, I just ask the Moto. Or in the morning I ask it what the forecast is and what is my agenda while I'm shaving. It's surprising how much that step of unlocking/touching my phone used to prevent me from using it.
Now the downsides. The back of the phone looks great, but I think the front looks a little cheap. Battery life has been pretty good, but not as stellar as what others are reporting. It still is plenty to last all day. I will miss my GS3's removable storage and memory. I don't take a lot of pictures, but I hear that the Moto X's camera is so-so compared to the others.
I'm not going to go in-depth. I had the HTC One, wife has the S4, and I now have the Moto X. I personally like the Moto X more than both the former phones. Due to many reasons. S4 is too big for my taste. I always thought I wanted a big screen, but after using it I don't like it. The HTC was just too oddly shaped for my taste, and the whole Sense thing ruined it for me, as does T-wiz. After flashing an AOSP ROM on both of those phones, they were just knockoffs of the GE phones. Meh. I love my Moto X. Traded my HTC straight across for it and don't feel bad at all.
I was also worried about switching from 1080p to 720p and see no difference. I may be biased because I have one, but until I actually got it, I thought it was such a stupid phone due to the HTC and the S4 hype, and me thinking, "Nothing is as good as these two phones!". Boy was I wrong.
Oh yeah! Touchless Controls and Active Display are the ****!
Oh yeah x2! I was a serious flashaholic with my other phones and saw how slow the Moto X development seemed to be. That also had me shying away from it, but damn! I don't feel like I need to do ANYTHING. Only thing I did was root simply for Xposed so I can use GravityBox to change some colors.
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Would love to hear from people on this. I am on Verizon and in the same boat. Anyone had the S4 and switch to the moto x?
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I did on Sprint. I can't go back to the S4 or any samsung product until they clean up touchwiz. Plus all those features are not necessary. The main selling point of Samsung is the camera, but I feel the X is passable. At this point its Motorola or Nexus devices from here on out.
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I just sold my S4 and bought a Moto X, super happy. I love this phone. It does everything well and the size and feel is amazing. The only downer is I don't want to put a case on it and ruin its ergonomics, however I want to keep it safe.
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Was debating on Moto X vs Nexus 5. Was going with the Nexus 5 but was hesitant due to camera and speaker issues and with the cyber monday deal for the Moto X, I'm probably going with the Moto X but have a couple of questions.
1) Is there anything else from the Nexus 5 version of Kit Kat that didn't make it other than the business search/caller ID and the Google Experience Launcher?
2) If I side load the Google Experience Launcher, how does (or does) that affect the Moto hands free "Ok Google Now" and other hands free tools ie. I think i understand "OK Google" with the GEL only works on the home screen for the Nexus 5 but the Moto X works on any screen. Does one supplant the other, do they co-exist?
Thanks!
1) Well, if you also count the camera that comes with stock KitKat, then yeah. I think the only thing you'll be missing out on would be Photosphere though.
2) OK Google is completely vaporized, everywhere. You don't see it in Google Now, you don't see it in your home screen... essentially everything will be redirected to the Moto Touchless Control first.
I fixed both speaker and camera with mods and Google is coming out with a major camera software update specifically for the Nexus soon.
I was really on the fence about these 2 and went to the store to try the moto x again yesterday. The Nexus 5 screen is just so much better and amazing. That extra smidge of size makes all the difference to me, not sure why. But Moto X is amazing in many ways so you can't go wrong. I'll stick with my N5 and maybe consider a Moto X 2 when they enhance to quad core and 1080p...
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I remember when I was thinking about getting a Motorola phone a few years ago I found out that it didn't support anyway to output to HDMI. Does the latest flagship Moto X (2014) still not do video out or have that added that feature to the new model?
Spoke to a customer care representative about this, and he confirmed that the new Moto X doesnt support this either
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Spoke to a customer care representative about this, and he confirmed that the new Moto X doesnt support this either
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Darn. Thanks for the quick answer.
I hope the Nexus 6 will have SlimPort since it's based on the New Moto X and the last two Nexus phones had it. The more I research the New Moto X on Verizon, the more it looks like I'll be going with the Nexus instead. I really wanted to get this phone though.
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Darn. Thanks for the quick answer.
I hope the Nexus 6 will have SlimPort since it's based on the New Moto X and the last two Nexus phones had it. The more I research the New Moto X on Verizon, the more it looks like I'll be going with the Nexus instead. I really wanted to get this phone though.
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Slimport is pretty expensive though, unless you have one already that won't be an issue. The Moto X is still a pretty sweet device not many issues with this device, I wanted to go for the nexus 6 as well coming from nexus 5, but the size and the price are a big turn off. If you've set your mind on going with the N6, do visit a store to actually feel it in hand before buying it. I was looking at some 6inch Sony phones when i was making my decision, to get an idea as to what i was gonna deal with and I just couldn't see myself carrying such a humongous device everyday.
Chromecast is the future of video out on Android phones, especially nexus and near-stock versions.
What are your opinions regarding the Nexus 6 vs the Moto X Pure? Which do you think will be future proof? Does anyone know if either of these can do simultaneous talk and web browsing on Verizon?
I know nexus 6 on Verizon cannot surf web over lte and talk at the same time. Semi-obviously you can still talk and browse over WiFi.
Before Nexus 6, I tried moto x 2013 dev edition... And to be honest it paled in comparison to the community support of nexus 6. Not sure if it is the same on the newer pure models.... But on the dev edition you could not downgrade the got or boot portions, and very few unofficial updates were provided by community. People largely just ran stock with xposed, afraid to fastboot stuff for fear of bricks, and with little to no ROMs because no one wanted to loose the stock framework, and xposed does everything.
Was not a very good environment for tinkering and learning tbh. Nexus has many more possibilities.
MotoX wins for stock features though, nexus ambient display pales in comparison to the 2013 moto x.
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I know nexus 6 on Verizon cannot surf web over lte and talk at the same time. Semi-obviously you can still talk and browse over WiFi.
Before Nexus 6, I tried moto x 2013 dev edition... And to be honest it paled in comparison to the community support of nexus 6. Not sure if it is the same on the newer pure models.... But on the dev edition you could not downgrade the got or boot portions, and very few unofficial updates were provided by community. People largely just ran stock with xposed, afraid to fastboot stuff for fear of bricks, and with little to no ROMs because no one wanted to loose the stock framework, and xposed does everything.
Was not a very good environment for tinkering and learning tbh. Nexus has many more possibilities.
MotoX wins for stock features though, nexus ambient display pales in comparison to the 2013 moto x.
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Nexus 6 can do simultaneous voice and data on Verizon if have VOLTE enabled. All new Motos on Verizon are the same.
VOLTE appears to lead to a lot of dropped calls if you live in or travel to areas with poor 4G support from what I've read. Is that correct? That is why I never enabled in when I had my S6. Does Google still release updates for the older devices such as the Nexus 5? Just wondering how Google is to older Nexus devices.
Never had a moto x phone but I believe this one does boil down to user choice more than specs. I'm going with the whale though
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I had a pure..after 4 replacements I went w the nexus and ill never look back
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I would switch to the Moto X Pure Edition and probably will when it is released. I really like the Nexus 6 but the Moto X has one thing I really want: a microSD card slot.
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I had a pure..after 4 replacements I went w the nexus and ill never look back
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It was released a couple of days ago, you had 4 replacements in those days? Highly unlikely
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It was released a couple of days ago, you had 4 replacements in those days? Highly unlikely
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This new moto x isn't the first one labeled as the pure edition. Simmer down some
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Does Google still release updates for the older devices such as the Nexus 5? Just wondering how Google is to older Nexus devices.
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All Nexus phones down to Nexus 4 (2012) received updates to LMY48I (5.1.1). Nexus 5 got update to MPA44I (6.0). So, yes Google takes care of older devices.
So anybody have anymore thoughts on moving from a Nexus 6 to the new Motorola Moto X Pure 2015? I'm still thinking about it but I'm wondering which is better for customization with ROMs/rooting. If anyone has any thoughts on anything between the two phones, please share. Thanks guys.
Not sure how it is now.... But 2013 moto x dev edition you couldn't ever downgrade, meaning you couldn't ever try out an upgrade with out being stuck.
This, combined with everyone not wanting to loose stock features meant no one did anything but run xposed. I think its going to be hard to beat nexus if your main thing is customization.
I'll be selling my Nexus 6 and getting the new moto pure. Its a no brainer for me.
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I'll be selling my Nexus 6 and getting the new moto pure. Its a no brainer for me.
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What are you reasons for selling your Nexus 6 and getting the new moto? Have you heard about modding/customization at all? Thanks.
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What are you reasons for selling your Nexus 6 and getting the new moto? Have you heard about modding/customization at all? Thanks.
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I don't care much for modding/customization. Just root is fine with me so I can use adaway and my android tools.
SD card slot is a huge plus with me since I have so many photos/videos on my phone, I take an extreme amount of photos and I like having a lot of music for the gym.
I haven't tested it myself, but I do expect a better camera.
I myself prefer the natural colors of a LCD display than amoled.
Front facing speakers are pretty much the same which is a plus and the screen size isn't much different.
I love my nexus 6 don't get me wrong. But the moto pure better suits my needs than this phone. Processing power won't be much different or noticeable and I'm cool with that.
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Im hoping someone can find out if there will be any modding options for the new moto x. Anybody else, please chime in. Thanks.
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Im hoping someone can find out if there will be any modding options for the new moto x. Anybody else, please chime in. Thanks.
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What modding options exactly are you looking for? Custom ROMs? Unlocked bootloader will set you free
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What modding options exactly are you looking for? Custom ROMs? Unlocked bootloader will set you free
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Yes, just wondering if custom ROMs will be available for the new moto x. I figured the bootloader would be unlocked. But just wondering if it's worth giving up my nexus 6 for. Thanks.
I was in the same situation a week ago Pure X vs N6, the new nexus arent all that appealing to me the Huawei is god ugly the N5X looks nice but with midrange specs (will pick one up if its on carrier subsidy though for the GF), if you dont need the SD Card, dont take an extreme amount of Pics, and don't mind AMOLED then the N6 is a very good buy right now, they're dropping in price you can get a 64 gb for 339 now, and 32gb under 300... The pure x starts at 399 for a 16gb model... any customizations you add will add to the cost...the newer SoC isnt worth the extra 200 or so if you dont need the SD Card and Camera.. The Pure X will have decent amount of dev since it can be unlocked (btw unlocking the BL on the Pure X voids warranty since its technically not a Dev edition) but nothing ever beats a Nexus in regards to developemt/custom roms etc.. I chose to save 200 dollars and came back to the Nexus 6.
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I was in the same situation a week ago Pure X vs N6, the new nexus arent all that appealing to me the Huawei is god ugly the N5X looks nice but with midrange specs (will pick one up if its on carrier subsidy though for the GF), if you dont need the SD Card, dont take an extreme amount of Pics, and don't mind AMOLED then the N6 is a very good buy right now, they're dropping in price you can get a 64 gb for 339 now, and 32gb under 300... The pure x starts at 399 for a 16gb model... any customizations you add will add to the cost...the newer SoC isnt worth the extra 200 or so if you dont need the SD Card and Camera.. The Pure X will have decent amount of dev since it can be unlocked (btw unlocking the BL on the Pure X voids warranty since its technically not a Dev edition) but nothing ever beats a Nexus in regards to developemt/custom roms etc.. I chose to save 200 dollars and came back to the Nexus 6.
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Great info, thank you!!!! I don't take alot of pics anyway and I think the AMOLED screen is a little better far as color, pure colors that is. And yes I got my Nexus 6 64 gb for $350 sent to me so I do like it. Just thought I might trade up but I'm definitely thinking about keeping the Nexus, just wanted to see someones thoughts on customization of the new moto x. Thanks again. Anybody else wants to share, please do.