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WIFI encryption dead?

I have a wiress router at home that i used with PDA2k. Surfing net over TKIP-PSK encrypted connection worked fine for many months.
One day, there was some problem connecting or it hung up (dont remember exactly), so i popped out battery and put it back in ... and since that day, i cannot make a TKIP-PSK connection with the phone to anything. If i set up router as OPEN point (no passwd), the f**king phone connects!
I did:
1. reset router
2. reflashed router.
3. Hard reset phone
4. Reflashed phone with WM2003 and older radio rom.
5. Reflashed WM05
6. Reflashed Wm2003 and latest radio rom
7. Tried different router.
No results!
I live in apartment building and cant leave my router in the open. Other encryption modes supported by PDA2k dont work either.
I DONT GET IT!!! HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SH*T STOPPED WORKING? If some hardware chip died, WIFI wouldnt work at all! But it works for non-encrypted connections!!

Unbelievable sad story. Everything points for some hv failure, but I just don't believe it. Try some more routers.

Try reflashing to older radio ROM. It may help.......

starik said:
But it works for non-encrypted connections!!
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The crypto stuff is done on-board the wifi IIRC, so that's possible.
I once heard of people having problems on the phone when using the keyboard for the encyption key. The recommendation was to use the on-screen keyboard to ensure the key is entered correctly. Might be worth a try, but try it with the most basic encryption settings i.e. wep to keep things simple. Make sure you disable EAP in the phone settings.
The problem could be within the storage space within the Wifi hardware. It has it's own registers for the actual settings. If some were in nvram that maintained it's state, then corruption to these would be bad.
A last resort might be to take of the battery for a few days to completely drain the backup battery. If there are any volatile storage areas maintained by this that are not cleared during a hard reset, then a complete power down will reset them. One of the problems with this phone is that you cannot fully switch it off.
Take the last two paragraphs with a pinch of salt; I've never looked into the hardware on these phones in any great detail, so it's all guesswork.

ok , i'll try a full powerdown.
i have windows 2005.
just to confirm : i will only lose the RAMdisk with temp files? the rest of the stuff is in the flash?

Yes, that's correct.

well, i finally got around to draining the backup battery.
any kind of encryption/password authentication over WIFI no longer works.
time to buy a new pda phone.

starik said:
I have a wiress router at home that i used with PDA2k. Surfing net over TKIP-PSK encrypted connection worked fine for many months.
One day, there was some problem connecting or it hung up (dont remember exactly), so i popped out battery and put it back in ... and since that day, i cannot make a TKIP-PSK connection with the phone to anything. If i set up router as OPEN point (no passwd), the f**king phone connects!
I did:
1. reset router
2. reflashed router.
3. Hard reset phone
4. Reflashed phone with WM2003 and older radio rom.
5. Reflashed WM05
6. Reflashed Wm2003 and latest radio rom
7. Tried different router.
No results!
I live in apartment building and cant leave my router in the open. Other encryption modes supported by PDA2k dont work either.
I DONT GET IT!!! HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT SH*T STOPPED WORKING? If some hardware chip died, WIFI wouldnt work at all! But it works for non-encrypted connections!!
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I'm in the same boat with my SX66, the SD slot no longer appears to recognized memory (pny or sandisk). I re-flashed the ROM to factory default and still doesn't recognize memory modules.
How do you drain the backup battery? I haven't done this yet...
Mike

starik said:
well, i finally got around to draining the backup battery.
any kind of encryption/password authentication over WIFI no longer works.
time to buy a new pda phone.
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Did you ever try it with another router at all? Might be worth trying as I didn't notice you mentioning it.

starik said:
I did:
1. reset router
2. reflashed router.
7. Tried different router.
No results!
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See above;P

Had the same problem with my set(wm5). Did not know why, could not log into my wep network. After hardreset , and leaving the phone alone for 10 mins, it was functional again . Thought i just voice out .

New to the Dream, questions! (and yes i searched for these first!)

what up yall! My ATT tilt died a few weeks ago (flex cable went bad, decided it was time to move on) so i got a G1 from my buddy that had a broken digitizer and LCD. ordered the parts online and got it put back together today. few questions though.... it seems that about the bottom 1/4 inch of my touch screen dosent respond....its brand new and the rest of it works fin...just the small strip that seems to not work. any ideas? also t mobile are assholes...i cant get them to unlock it but i will work on that one...im quite sure that answer is on here. Also...do i really need to get a data package or can i choose to keep my phone from constantly connecting and updating my gmail and other apps? thats the reason i continue to get HTC is because i think data plans are silly when everywhere in america has WiFI....i think thats all for now...and ive been a member on here for quite sometime but this android mess is totally different. lol. thank yall!

That 1/4" at the bottoms sounds like a bad digitizer. =/ *Most* likely not software. But you can check by flashing a new ROM and if its a software problem, the new ROM will override whatever was causing it not to work before.
You can get it unlocked for $20 from one of many unlocking websites, just google it. You can't get it free anywhere other than T-Mobile sorry to say.
You don't *need* a data package, I don't have one. There are applications that can disable your data connection except for when you need it (i.e. MMS). Or its a built-in widget with the Hero ROMs.
Unless you have a rooted ROM, you will be required to use your data to even use your phone for the first time as it requires you to sign in to your Google account, but doesn't give you the option to use WiFi. But honestly, I think this phone is crippled without a data connection even if you don't use it all the time, I'm currently waiting for my current plan to end to sign another 2-year contract with data. But its up to you, its certainly still usable with enough WiFi connection points.

darn....its not very fun to take apart...plus i have to wait even longer...im currently using an old school , non color green screen nokia probably digitizer and not some random flex cable along the lines? maybe the black one? i guess there wouldnt be any way to check without replacing. and im not real addicted to any apps or anything, just mainly want it as phone/organizer. im a studennt and have wi fi at the house and at school, and every bar i go to has wi fi so i think im covered =) just making sure i could regulate it so it dosent pull and jack my bill up. if i were to flash a new rom, wouldnt that unlock it....and can you still downgrade it to rc29 when you dont have a t mobile sim card....or rather is there any other way besides adp or should i just go ahead and learn how to use it...seems a bit intimidating to anything ive done on a WMo phone.

you can use apndroid to block data from being used accidentally
flashing a rom will not unlock the phone.
Yes you can downgrade to RC29 without a tmo card

mmmk. so rooting and flashing a HTC rom wouldnt do it? if im correct i either have to go through t-mobile or i have to pay like 20 bucks so i can use it with ATT?

ztch10 said:
mmmk. so rooting and flashing a HTC rom wouldnt do it? if im correct i either have to go through t-mobile or i have to pay like 20 bucks so i can use it with ATT?
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You are correct.

h.nocturna said:
Unless you have a rooted ROM, you will be required to use your data to even use your phone for the first time as it requires you to sign in to your Google account, but doesn't give you the option to use WiFi.
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I haven't tried it myself, but this thread tells you how to get around that.

note how that thread tells you to obtain root...

B-man007 said:
note how that thread tells you to obtain root...
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I meant get around not having a Data connection. Rooting is obviously not optional.

Chahk said:
I meant get around not having a Data connection. Rooting is obviously not optional.
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ah ok i figured he already found that or would.
sorry

You can root without data. Just activate wifi at RC29 when trying to sign in

Chahk said:
I meant get around not having a Data connection. Rooting is obviously not optional.
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Rooted ROMs usually have an option to just skip signing into Google don't they? I know they have that for Hero for sure, but I was pretty sure they implemented that to all the cupcake/Donut ROMs too no?
Basically, you'll only need to use that with RC29. And if you do need to sign in and don't wanna use the work around, I would just go ahead and use the data, its only a few KB of info I think (I've never actually measured it, but I very small amounts on my bill even if I do use it to sign in, also using ATT btw).

h.nocturna said:
Rooted ROMs usually have an option to just skip signing into Google don't they? I know they have that for Hero for sure, but I was pretty sure they implemented that to all the cupcake/Donut ROMs too no?
Basically, you'll only need to use that with RC29. And if you do need to sign in and don't wanna use the work around, I would just go ahead and use the data, its only a few KB of info I think (I've never actually measured it, but I very small amounts on my bill even if I do use it to sign in, also using ATT btw).
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all ROM's based on adp (and most modded tmo) have the option to skip (at least im pretty sure)
He just wants to activate his phone without data, which would require him to get down to a root level rom (RC29)
after he logs in, he has the option to root or wait for the OTA update if he wants to stay stock
if he wants to try to use his data, he can try but it doesnt always work (it did for me at first, but not the next few times)

ok so update... believe it was a bad digitizer...sending it back monday for a replacement so a few more days without the new toy) I got it registered to my Gmail and everything, and im currently waiting on my unlock code, so that is squared away. now...new questions.....
1. can i not just uncheck the auto sync and all the other data options or do i have to run adp? to make sure it dosent stay connecting and updating my mail and apps?
2. what positives do i have with rooting/flashing? obviously most of you probably have gone that route, and i really enjoyed flashing with my Tilt and having the newest WinMo, but it was always at the cost of it either being buggy or somethings not working. i know this can be searched but i want the simple answer if yall dont mind
3. i also noticed that the only thing so far that dosent work, is the camera/camcorder. keep in mind i got this phone with a broken lcd/digi. so there may have been other problems but i couldnt tell untill the screen was replaced. could it be i put it back together and missed a cable/contact for the camera, or could it just be software related?
...for now i think thats all the problems i have stumbled across... Thanks you all you are making this very easy for a Android Newbie!

ztch10 said:
ok so update... believe it was a bad digitizer...sending it back monday for a replacement so a few more days without the new toy) I got it registered to my Gmail and everything, and im currently waiting on my unlock code, so that is squared away. now...new questions.....
1. can i not just uncheck the auto sync and all the other data options or do i have to run adp? to make sure it dosent stay connecting and updating my mail and apps?
2. what positives do i have with rooting/flashing? obviously most of you probably have gone that route, and i really enjoyed flashing with my Tilt and having the newest WinMo, but it was always at the cost of it either being buggy or somethings not working. i know this can be searched but i want the simple answer if yall dont mind
3. i also noticed that the only thing so far that dosent work, is the camera/camcorder. keep in mind i got this phone with a broken lcd/digi. so there may have been other problems but i couldnt tell untill the screen was replaced. could it be i put it back together and missed a cable/contact for the camera, or could it just be software related?
...for now i think thats all the problems i have stumbled across... Thanks you all you are making this very easy for a Android Newbie!
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1. That would stop just contacts, calendar, and gmail not all of the other apps that come with the phone
2. Rooting is definitely worth it, loving my hero rom
3. If your on RC29 there is no camcorder, but if not then it's definitely a hardware issue, when I was on stock everything worked fine

Just FYI: the unlock code is phone specific, so if your getting a replacement, the unlock code wont work on that one if the code you got was for the other.
1) If you want to disable data, download and run APNDroid. You can turn off autosync if you want but data will still be used.
2) Rooting has lots of advantages. Themes, faster updates (i.e youll get the latest android before its released OTA) more modifications, use of certain apps such as Ad-Free, etc. cooked android roms are more stable than winmo cooked roms, and you have the option between stable/experimental
3) if it was stock, its probably a hardware error

so could i potenitally not have any apps and not have a data pull problem? or it seems as though just rooting and flashing to hero (would you all go hero, or newer 1.6 stock rom, or custom 1.6?) and ill be taking it back apart to send the bad digitzer back, so ill check the ol camera out. still is stock T-mobile 1.5....no rc29 or anything....yet...

if you still have 1.5, you can use the 1 click root
im using hero right now, but i switch between hero and cyan using the switchrom script
the g1 on stock android will still use data even if you have everything disabled. the only way to completely disable it is by changing the apns, or by disabling mobile data on a hero rom
what was wrong with the camera? give a little more detail so we know if it really is a hardware or software problem

Quiccest way to get unlock code..just tellem you are goin to the uk or sum and you are in need of unlocking since u will be on there network for a while.. Usually that works!

[Q]Wi-Fi issue

Anyone having an issue with the WiFi turning itself off then back on about 30 seconds later??? none of my other wireless devices (laptop, 2 iPhones) are experiencing the issue....
Netgear WGR614v9 router
secured with WPA/WPA2 PSK

CoryMac913 said:
Anyone having an issue with the WiFi turning itself off then back on about 30 seconds later??? none of my other wireless devices (laptop, 2 iPhones) are experiencing the issue....
Netgear WGR614v9 router
secured with WPA/WPA2 PSK
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I had just got ATT Uverse and never had this problem before. The guy who set it up put the main box right next to my TV which I knew was going to be a problem. None of my computers or my laptop would disconnect, just my phone. I moved the box away from TV and now I never have any problems. Try to look around your router, if you have it next to anything electronic, move it. If that doesn't help go into your router (if you don't know how look it up on google) and change the channel to a different one. Sometimes there are things that will interrupt wifi ln certain channels. I think our phone (not sure about others) is very sensitive to picking up a signal and doesn't handle interference well. Not sure if it will help but, it did wonders for me.

Urabewe said:
I had just got ATT Uverse and never had this problem before. The guy who set it up put the main box right next to my TV which I knew was going to be a problem. None of my computers or my laptop would disconnect, just my phone. I moved the box away from TV and now I never have any problems. Try to look around your router, if you have it next to anything electronic, move it. If that doesn't help go into your router (if you don't know how look it up on google) and change the channel to a different one. Sometimes there are things that will interrupt wifi ln certain channels. I think our phone (not sure about others) is very sensitive to picking up a signal and doesn't handle interference well. Not sure if it will help but, it did wonders for me.
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But here's the thing... i NEVER had a problem until yesterday, and it's not an issue with the wifi on the disconnecting, the wifi on the phone is turning on and off... i can watch it in "Settings" turn on and off like someone's pushing the button repetedly...

CoryMac913 said:
But here's the thing... i NEVER had a problem until yesterday, and it's not an issue with the wifi on the disconnecting, the wifi on the phone is turning on and off... i can watch it in "Settings" turn on and off like someone's pushing the button repetedly...
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Oh wow, yeah that's much different than what I had going on. Well lets treat this like pc troubleshooting. Have you recently installed any apps? Any roms? Anything you can think of that might have changed, settings in an app or widget. Maybe make a nandroid back up, I would also do a full system app/data backup in titanium then wipe data in cwm (factory reset) and dalvik cache see if that helps if not try flashing your rom again. If it does help, you can restore apps with titanium. If you worry about sms you can back those up with a program from market called sms backup and restore of all things. There is one that will backup sms contacts and call history I think also and both are free just do a search. Basically back up everything you are wanting to restore before doing anything.

Urabewe said:
Oh wow, yeah that's much different than what I had going on. Well lets treat this like pc troubleshooting. Have you recently installed any apps? Any roms? Anything you can think of that might have changed, settings in an app or widget. Maybe make a nandroid back up, I would also do a full system app/data backup in titanium then wipe data in cwm (factory reset) and dalvik cache see if that helps if not try flashing your rom again. If it does help, you can restore apps with titanium. If you worry about sms you can back those up with a program from market called sms backup and restore of all things. There is one that will backup sms contacts and call history I think also and both are free just do a search. Basically back up everything you are wanting to restore before doing anything.
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Resolved, flashed back to the Factory-Rooted Rom, works great now!

[Q] N7000 destroyed, data recovery?

Hi guys
as you can see in the attached file, i have a litte issue
a friend of mine dropped the phone and a car runned over it lol...digitizer and lcd are gone but the phone still boot up and it is recognized by the computer. My friend don't care about repairs but he wants the data back and here starts the problems:
-adb is off
-phone is password protected (so no kies and no sdcard reading from pc), phone stay in the "insert password" at startup.
-i don't even know if support mhl to attach on a tv
how can i recover the data? The only idea i have is to dump the rom and load it on an android emulator but i don't even know if its possible. Can someone give me a hint to recover the data? Thank you

1) Buy a replacement screen
2) Get the data
3) Sell fully working phone
...
Profit!

that was my idea...my friend do not approve

Jammed_Death said:
that was my idea...my friend do not approve
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Did you try the S-pen to input the password?

i can't get a precise feedback. I think i'm not pressing the correct numbers and after half hour of wasting time i was looking for other options. Does this phone support mhl? If yes, i have to enable in settings or something else?

Jammed_Death said:
i can't get a precise feedback. I think i'm not pressing the correct numbers and after half hour of wasting time i was looking for other options. Does this phone support mhl? If yes, i have to enable in settings or something else?
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I dont know qbout mhl, never used it. The phone does support it though.
Another idea might be a usb-otg cable and a keyboard(password entry).
Not sure if that works on a stock rom, but try it.

Wi-Fi stays off in Android Pi

Wi-Fi been working fine in Android 9 (Dirty Unicorn version), now it won't stay on at all and to top it off it show no MAC address. How do I get it back on?
thanks,

_dave said:
Wi-Fi been working fine in Android 9 (Dirty Unicorn version), now it won't stay on at all and to top it off it show no MAC address. How do I get it back on?
thanks,
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Does it allows to turn WiFi on?
WiFi comes on and then turns off by itself?

[CLOSED] fixed -
re-installed "9", everything working again.

I've had this too. Sometimes wif-fi just refuses to re-enable after the TP goes to sleep. The toggle moves and then just slides back. The only way to re-enable is to reboot. I'll give a re-install a go when the next version is released as it is not a major problem for me. Just thought I'd mention it as it is not an isolated incident.

MikeN68 said:
I've had this too. Sometimes wif-fi just refuses to re-enable after the TP goes to sleep. The toggle moves and then just slides back. The only way to re-enable is to reboot. I'll give a re-install a go when the next version is released as it is not a major problem for me. Just thought I'd mention it as it is not an isolated incident.
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I have not experience that "yet".
Make sure the WiFi connection is " Treat as unmetered" ( this is Android feature ) not ROM
Besides that, any settings or extra Apps that the user install could make WiFi work differently.
Also Android 9 must use a swap partition and the settings from the Guide.

I've not actually in stalled much as I still prefer to use webOS!! Hate me if you like but Android & iOS are now bringing in their own versions of gestures and 'cards' that webOS had nearly 10 years ago. On this basis I still have the Swap file so all is good there.
I'll check the Android settings later to make sure, however for the device to be working fine, put down (in the 6 year old wireless charger) and left for a couple of hours and then you cannot enable wifi does not sound like an issue with the basic Android settings. Either this in an install problem, a ROM problem or a hardware problem. As there just 2 of us with this and _dave reinstalled and it seems to be good for him I'll presume it is an install problem for now and just live with it until I get bored - or an updated ROM is released.

MikeN68 said:
I've not actually in stalled much as I still prefer to use webOS!! Hate me if you like but Android & iOS are now bringing in their own versions of gestures and 'cards' that webOS had nearly 10 years ago.
I do agree with you on the WebOS interface and we clearly see now how the others mobile OS have implemented the WebOS gestures and other things.
On this basis I still have the Swap file so all is good there.
WebOS was the first and truly a mobile operating system designed for a Tablet and the swap partition is part of that.
I'll check the Android settings later to make sure, however for the device to be working fine, put down (in the 6 year old wireless charger) and left for a couple of hours and then you cannot enable wifi does not sound like an issue with the basic Android settings.
I have been running youtube playing music since 8 am this morning and now is 3pm data usage for that tablet is over 2 GB and I have the Super variant install of Open Gapps, the maximum that can be flash. WiFi does not drop as is all working. I turn WiFi on and off, it reconnects. When dealing with WiFi there are two devices involved and two settings, router and tablet. I had issues with disconnects and it was due to my manual settings that I had on the router and there was interference. I mostly set up all settings to auto, selected channel 11 that does not have much interference "where I am" and all went away.
Either this in an install problem, a ROM problem or a hardware problem. As there just 2 of us with this and _dave reinstalled and it seems to be good for him I'll presume it is an install problem for now and just live with it until I get bored - or an updated ROM is released.
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When describing an issue, it must be very specific.
1. WiFi does not reconnect to the same wireless network ( does not see it) WiFi icon is outline but not filled.
2. WiFi is completely off, does not see any network ( WiFi icon is not visible ) OFF
What is the graphical status of the WiFi icon next to the battery icon ( outline or filled )?

OK. As I just posted to show that _dave was not alone, I think (for me) this is getting out of hand. Whilst I do appreciate your time and knowledge, it is simply (again for me) not a significant problem.
However. If I use the TP it is not a problem so streaming music would be in the realms of using. The issue I have is that after using it I place it inthe dock and when I pick it up again hours later I sometimes find wifi is not enabled. I got to settings and toggle the 'slider' to ON and a second later the 'slider' moves back to the OFF position. I simply cannot make the 'slider' stay in the ON position. If I restart the TP everything is fine and dandy again.
So for me a quick reboot is sufficient to keep me using this ROM. I know I can roll back to an earlier ROM or even try Pie again like _dave did. As we seem to be the only two users that have voiced a problem here and he has fixed his I cannot ask you to look into this further - unless there are other users that are also affected.
RIP webOS

MikeN68;79445604
RIP webOS :([/QUOTE said:
What Kernel are you using or frequency from the guide?
WebOS is now LuneOS and also is on LG TV
https://pivotce.com/tag/luneos/
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WiFi connection "feature"?
HP_TOUCHPAD said:
I have not experience that "yet".
Make sure the WiFi connection is " Treat as unmetered" ( this is Android feature ) not ROM
Besides that, any settings or extra Apps that the user install could make WiFi work differently.
Also Android 9 must use a swap partition and the settings from the Guide.
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Where would I find the "Android feature" for the WiFi connection? Other then the ROM I don't know how to get to this feature.

_dave said:
Where would I find the "Android feature" for the WiFi connection? Other then the ROM I don't know how to get to this feature.
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Settings --->> Network & Internet --->>WiFi ( connected WiFi is the first one ) to the right (the blue icon)
The last down (Advanced).
Also WiFi will take time to connect again after the Tablet comes out of standby (sleep)
What kernel speed did you flashed from the Guide?

HP_TOUCHPAD said:
Settings --->> Network & Internet --->>WiFi ( connected WiFi is the first one ) to the right (the blue icon)
The last down (Advanced).
Also WiFi will take time to connect again after the Tablet comes out of standby (sleep)
What kernel speed did you flashed from the Guide?
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Thanks, got it
For some reason I did not installed any kernel speed-up, should I and can I just add it now (already setup)? I'm thinking of using the 1728000 version or should I go higher?
Thanks for all your support.:good:

_dave said:
Thanks, got it
For some reason I did not installed any kernel speed-up, should I and can I just add it now (already setup)? I'm thinking of using the 1728000 version or should I go higher?
It is a must and that is why the guide was created and those files fixes issues with the non working Bluetooth and the performance of the ROM, is not only to speed-up. It clearly state to flash in the specific order.
1. ROM
2. Kernel Boots optimize settings
3. Open gapps (Pico recommend)
Thanks for all your support.:good:
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If you are not familiar or know the maximum CPU frequency your tablet can handle flash the 1728 if you experience reboots then try lower. If want to get better performance then try 1782 and 1836 if the tablet can handle it.
But always follows the instructions exactly as posted it, that is how the ROM was tested and guarantee to work.
You are welcome!

HP_TOUCHPAD said:
If you are not familiar or know the maximum CPU frequency your tablet can handle flash the 1728 if you experience reboots then try lower. If want to get better performance then try 1782 and 1836 if the tablet can handle it.
But always follows the instructions exactly as posted it, that is how the ROM was tested and guarantee to work.
You are welcome!
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I started over again and flash the ROM then the 172 and pico app, didn't have a reboot problem but I lost WiFi again (keeps going off, even after rebooting). So, I dropped down to 1674 and everything working again. I'll stay with 1674 for now, at least until the next ROM update.
Again, thanks for your help.:good:

HP_TOUCHPAD said:
What Kernel are you using or frequency from the guide?
WebOS is now LuneOS and also is on LG TV
https://pivotce.com/tag/luneos/
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Yeah, tried LuneOS (it's many iterations) and although it is moving in the right direction it is still not as polished as webOS was when it died (has it ever actually died?). I still use apps from the old app store but Android is just easier as it is up to date and works. If webOS development was restarted and brought fully up to date with a decent stocked store it would (and should have) been a great success. Oh well :crying:
I thought about a LG TV but can't justify the cost whilst my Sammy TV is working

_dave said:
I started over again and flash the ROM then the 172 and pico app, didn't have a reboot problem but I lost WiFi again (keeps going off, even after rebooting).
Also check your router settings if there are interference on the channels and is set to automatically change channels the Tablet may have issues updating to the new channel.
So, I dropped down to 1674 and everything working again. I'll stay with 1674 for now, at least until the next ROM update.
A higher frequency that the tablet can not handle will make it reboot or freeze, using the closer highest frequency for the Tablet will make it work better.
Again, thanks for your help.:good:
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You are welcome, any other questions just post it !
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MikeN68 said:
Yeah, tried LuneOS (it's many iterations) and although it is moving in the right direction it is still not as polished as webOS was when it died (has it ever actually died?).
LuneOS is work in progress, but at least the built it browser works well. WebOS is alive on the LG TVS
I still use apps from the old app store but Android is just easier as it is up to date and works.
The most important on any OS is the Apps available that add functionality.
If webOS development was restarted and brought fully up to date with a decent stocked store it would (and should have) been a great success. Oh well :crying:
Developers support and willing to develop App for the platform is the key to a successful OS.
I thought about a LG TV but can't justify the cost whilst my Sammy TV is working
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I think that the only thing that is need it is a Theme pack to cosmetically make Android 9 look like WebOS. The gestures are the same.

LOL you're forgetting QT web browser and QupZilla on the TP now
I have the theme and Fling settings on an old Experia but that didn't feel right (there was a tutorial a while back in Pivot). Palm had the interface/UX just about perfect but it was never loved by the public and HP didn't really give a sh*t.

MikeN68 said:
LOL you're forgetting QT web browser and QupZilla on the TP now
I have the theme and Fling settings on an old Experia but that didn't feel right (there was a tutorial a while back in Pivot). Palm had the interface/UX just about perfect but it was never loved by the public and HP didn't really give a sh*t.
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To me Pie is very similar to WebOS, even the charging sound is very similar to the finished boot sound in WebOS.
All is changing and we must adapt to it, to be able to keep the Tablet updated and useful.
Android Q is already in Beta, who knows if it will boot in the HP TP and the developers will take the challenge.

Hi HP_TOUCHPAD, once again I cannot get my TP to see my WiFi (rest of my devices - no problem). And once again the "advance" section does not show up in "Network & Internet" section. So how do I get the "advance" section to show up again.

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Hi HP_TOUCHPAD, once again I cannot get my TP to see my WiFi (rest of my devices - no problem). And once again the "advance" section does not show up in "Network & Internet" section. So how do I get the "advance" section to show up again.
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@_dave sorry for the delay. Staring with Oreo 8.1 if any changes are done to the router the WiFi connection will be lost and the Tablet will not see the WiFi signal that was connected to and a reboot is required. If the router was changed then, select forget network and connect again. The same issue is present in Pie 9.