[Q] Upgrading Sprint Moto X - Moto X Q&A

I have a Sprint unlocked moto x (works on all carriers) Its on Android 4.4.2. However, there is an OTA upgrade to 4.4.4? So if i upgrade it, will the phone again be locked or what?

arhamiq said:
I have a Sprint unlocked moto x (works on all carriers) Its on Android 4.4.2. However, there is an OTA upgrade to 4.4.4? So if i upgrade it, will the phone again be locked or what?
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No once you do an authorized unlock you are in control. Same for any unauthorized, as all reports have ever indicated. Would Moto ever want the flack from such a move?

aviwdoowks said:
No once you do an authorized unlock you are in control. Same for any unauthorized, as all reports have ever indicated. Would Moto ever want the flack from such a move?
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So it's safe upgrading, right?

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Anyway at all to unlock bootloader for ATT Moto X (2013) on 4.4.4

I have the XT1058 on 4.4.4 and I have been having no luck in finding a way to unlock the BL. Is there anyway at all?
hexbox117 said:
I have the XT1058 on 4.4.4 and I have been having no luck in finding a way to unlock the BL. Is there anyway at all?
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There is no way now.
Google says no, as does many posts in many threads on this forum.
It's because AT&T version is sim locked?
Nicolae-Daniel said:
It's because AT&T version is sim locked?
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sIm Lock, aka carrier lock, has nothing to do with bootloader unlock.
To bootloader unlock, you need the unique code for the phone. Likely due to carrier contracts, Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock code for ATT, Verizon, or Republic Wireless, but does for many/most other carriers. At one point there was a web site in China and a Middleman who access to Moto's list or database of codes which included even those Moto didn't publicly make available (I.e ATT, VZW, RW) but that dried up a while ago. JCase found a vulnerability in the bootloader on the 2013 X, and came out with/updated his Sunshine tool with a hack exploiting that vulnerability to unlock the bootloader (without having the unique code) on the 2013 X too, but it doesn't work once the X has been upgraded to 4.4.4. Sunshine DOES work on the 2013 X if it has never been upgraded past 4.4.3.
Thanks for letting me know. I got the phone in August and it was on 4.4.3, but then I accidentally installed 4.4.4. If only I had known that I wouldn't be able to root it after that.... It really sucks because I really want Viper4Android on my Moto X.
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Jcase has been teasing us with word of the next sunshine version working for 4.4.4. It was projected to release early January but they must not be done putting all their awesome into that sauce. Be patient and I bet you'll have an unlocked bl soon enough.
In an abundance of caution, I would probably hold off taking the lollipop update coming soon in case it patches whatever vulnerability they are exploiting.
hexbox117 said:
Thanks for letting me know. I got the phone in August and it was on 4.4.3, but then I accidentally installed 4.4.4. If only I had known that I wouldn't be able to root it after that.... It really sucks because I really want Viper4Android on my Moto X.
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4.4.3 or 4.4.2? because I wasn't aware that there was a 4.4.3 for ATT.
I checked it as soon as I got it and it was 4.4.3. A few days after, a notification for 4.4.4 popped up and I accidentally hit install. I got the phone August 10th, 2014.
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Same problem with me too. Eagerly updated to 4.4.4. Now no option to unlock bootloader. Waiting for ota L update which seems to take long time in india. Hope sm1 cracksnthis case soon
I wonder if Android 5 will have an exploit or something to unlock the boot loader.
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azu89 said:
Same problem with me too. Eagerly updated to 4.4.4. Now no option to unlock bootloader. Waiting for ota L update which seems to take long time in india. Hope sm1 cracksnthis case soon
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India? What model X do you have, and from what carrier?
Often times the 2013 X in EMEA has been an XT1052.
Have you tried checking Moto's home page to get the unlock code? https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth
KidJoe said:
India? What model X do you have, and from what carrier?
Often times the 2013 X in EMEA has been an XT1052.
Have you tried checking Moto's home page to get the unlock code? https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth
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Ya mine is XT1052 .I checked the site ,in find device section there's
moto xCanada / Rogers
Moto xUS / Sprint, USC, TMO
Moto x Latin America
Mine is Asian retail Indian model so how to find if unlocking is avbl?
If I proceed with (moto x US) and generate serial key of my phone using SDK tools and check for unlock bootloader in site, my phn won't get bricked or anything right? That's a doubt I have.
azu89 said:
Ya mine is XT1052 .I checked the site ,in find device section there's
moto xCanada / Rogers
Moto xUS / Sprint, USC, TMO
Moto x Latin America
Mine is Asian retail Indian model so how to find if unlocking is avbl?
If I proceed with (moto x US) and generate serial key of my phone using SDK tools and check for unlock bootloader in site, my phn won't get bricked or anything right? That's a doubt I have.
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You should be able to use the same web site to get the bootloader unlock code, many others with the European and Asian XT1052 have been able to get their bootloader unlock code there.
If you get the code in an email, it will either work, or give you an error if its not the right code. It will not brick your phone.
KidJoe said:
You should be able to use the same web site to get the bootloader unlock code, many others with the European and Asian XT1052 have been able to get their bootloader unlock code there.
If you get the code in an email, it will either work, or give you an error if its not the right code. It will not brick your phone.
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Thanks.i will try then
Is there a way to achieve temporary root on att moto x 2013 without wiping the device
km8j said:
Is there a way to achieve temporary root on att moto x 2013 without wiping the device
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See the one stop shop for root thread in general. Right at the top of the page.
All current root methods are there, based on device versions and state. ?
There is a untested way to unlock the bootloader but is very risky, you must open your device. Anyway if you are so brave to try this procedure http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-ultra/general/droid-ultra-maxx-brick-recovery-t2830806 look at this guide at the second point, first you must drill the plate on the ram chip, you must short the right pin on your moto x to ground (i attach a photo,pointed by the orange arrow) then follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-resurrecting-bricked-moto-x-t2629057
THIS IS A VERY RISKY PROCEDURE: YOU CAN BRICK YOUR DEVICE!!!
I wouldn't. ^^^^
Lol
thankyou
KidJoe said:
India? What model X do you have, and from what carrier?
Often times the 2013 X in EMEA has been an XT1052.
Have you tried checking Moto's home page to get the unlock code? https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth
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i tried as you told and turns out that my device can be unlocked! :victory::good:
thankyou for the help.
just unlocking/rooting wouldnt prevent ota updates from motorola right?

Unlock bootloader Moto X Verizon

I have Moto X 2013 Verizon. Lasetest firmware 4.4.4. Can anyone help me unlock bootloader my phone? And after unlock bootloder can my phone recieve OTA update ?
Do you have the developers edition? If not you can't unlock.
lowvolt1 said:
Do you have the developers edition? If not you can't unlock.
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my phone is not dev edition. But i wonder why only Verizon not allow unlock bootloader, all another carrier Moto X can unlock bootloader easy:crying:
Verizon and AT&T. If you search the forum for China middle man. You may find a way to unlock. Just a hint.
I know what u feel, I have this great phone but I Can't unlock bootloader either
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md07 said:
my phone is not dev edition. But i wonder why only Verizon not allow unlock bootloader, all another carrier Moto X can unlock bootloader easy:crying:
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Verizon (non-Dev Edition), ATT and Republic Wireless can not unlock their bootloader. It has been this way since the 2013 X went on sale.
Its likely due to contracts between Moto and those carriers.
It is possible!!
I just did it earlier today, google "sunshine moto x" I had trouble initially but went on the site talked to the dec and he fixed the app for me, I am now unlocked deciding which 5.0 rom I want to go with. (sucks no moto apps until they relase the official )
gchase23 said:
I just did it earlier today, google "sunshine moto x" I had trouble initially but went on the site talked to the dec and he fixed the app for me, I am now unlocked deciding which 5.0 rom I want to go with. (sucks no moto apps until they relase the official )
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I tried sunshine 3.0.3 on a VZW 4.4.4 non-dev phone and it couldn't achieve temp root. You are saying that it worked for you on a VZW locked non-dev 4.4.4 phone?
Edited: Just tried it on 3.0.4 as well. No joy.
Fadelight said:
I tried sunshine 3.0.3 on a VZW 4.4.4 non-dev phone and it couldn't achieve temp root. You are saying that it worked for you on a VZW locked non-dev 4.4.4 phone?
Edited: Just tried it on 3.0.4 as well. No joy.
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I think it depends on how you got to 4.4.4. If you took the official OTA, like I did, you're out of luck.
mh0520 said:
I think it depends on how you got to 4.4.4. If you took the official OTA, like I did, you're out of luck.
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Yeah, that is what I suspect. I am pretty sure if JCase had added support for the moto x in sunshine, he would've announced it by now. Lots of money to be had.
gchase23 said:
I just did it earlier today, google "sunshine moto x" I had trouble initially but went on the site talked to the dec and he fixed the app for me, I am now unlocked deciding which 5.0 rom I want to go with. (sucks no moto apps until they relase the official )
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Fadelight said:
I tried sunshine 3.0.3 on a VZW 4.4.4 non-dev phone and it couldn't achieve temp root. You are saying that it worked for you on a VZW locked non-dev 4.4.4 phone?
Edited: Just tried it on 3.0.4 as well. No joy.
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Sunshine relies on your phone being rooted, or the tool being able to obtain temp root.
4.4.4 on the 2013 Verizon Moto X, or most/all 2013 Moto X on locked bootloader, hasn't been rooted, and the tool can't temp root the phone.
So if you have 4.4.4 on the 2013 Moto X, do not expect Sunshine to work.
If you have never updated the 2013 Moto X to 4.4.4, then Sunshine will likely work just fine.
mh0520 said:
I think it depends on how you got to 4.4.4. If you took the official OTA, like I did, you're out of luck.
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I took the soak test leak and pushed it to my phone and I can't unlock my boot loader either I don't think it has anything to do with that :/
BADDINOROX99 said:
I took the soak test leak and pushed it to my phone and I can't unlock my boot loader either I don't think it has anything to do with that :/
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Did you update everything or did you individually update components? I think it came down to whether or not people updated the bootloader when they updated to 4.4.4. There was a way to update without updating the bootloader and I think it's those phones that sunshine works for. I'm far from an expert though; I could definitely be wrong.
KidJoe said:
Sunshine relies on your phone being rooted, or the tool being able to obtain temp root.
4.4.4 on the 2013 Verizon Moto X, or most/all 2013 Moto X on locked bootloader, hasn't been rooted, and the tool can't temp root the phone.
So if you have 4.4.4 on the 2013 Moto X, do not expect Sunshine to work.
If you have never updated the 2013 Moto X to 4.4.4, then Sunshine will likely work just fine.
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I'm well aware of this. But he claimed it worked for him.
Fadelight said:
I'm well aware of this. But he claimed it worked for him.
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But gchase23 did NOT say what rom was on his phone BEFORE using Sunshine.. only that he was now unlocked and trying to decide on which 5.0 rom to run.
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mh0520 said:
Did you update everything or did you individually update components? I think it came down to whether or not people updated the bootloader when they updated to 4.4.4. There was a way to update without updating the bootloader and I think it's those phones that sunshine works for. I'm far from an expert though; I could definitely be wrong.
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People were being "cute" and manual flashing SBF's but skipping GPT.BIN and Motoboot.img (two parts that can't be downgraded).
However, as I understand it, this doesn't change the fact that 4.4.4 can't be rooted or temp rooted by Sunshine, which prevents it from working. It does mean that if done this way, they could likely downgrade to their previous SBF which matches the GPT.Bin/Motoboot (probably 4.4.2), and still use sunshine.
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But gchase23 did NOT say what rom was on his phone BEFORE using Sunshine.. only that he was now unlocked and trying to decide on which 5.0 rom to run.
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People were being "cute" and manual flashing SBF's but skipping GPT.BIN and Motoboot.img (two parts that can't be downgraded).
However, as I understand it, this doesn't change the fact that 4.4.4 can't be rooted or temp rooted by Sunshine, which prevents it from working. It does mean that if done this way, they could likely downgrade to their previous SBF which matches the GPT.Bin/Motoboot (probably 4.4.2), and still use sunshine.
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Dude, did you read what I quoted? He said sunshine unlocked his moto x. The OP specifies 4.4.4 and he said "I just did it", implying he was on 444.
I think you are skipping over a bit and replying only to parts of what I asked. I am well aware that sunshine won't work on 444. He stated he unlocked his with sunshine... Using only the words " I did it". I asked if he was on 444.
Fadelight said:
Dude, did you read what I quoted? He said sunshine unlocked his moto x. The OP specifies 4.4.4 and he said "I just did it", implying he was on 444.
I think you are skipping over a bit and replying only to parts of what I asked. I am well aware that sunshine won't work on 444. He stated he unlocked his with sunshine... Using only the words " I did it". I asked if he was on 444.
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Its implied, but I've been on these boards enough to question when its not explicitly stated.
I was hoping he'd come back and provide confirmation that he was on 4.4.4, and what bootloader was on his phone
KidJoe said:
Its implied, but I've been on these boards enough to question when its not explicitly stated.
I was hoping he'd come back and provide confirmation that he was on 4.4.4, and what bootloader was on his phone
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And that is exactly what I was getting at.
When asked about the future of sunshine for the 2013 moto x, JCase said "not anytime soon."
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And that is exactly what I was getting at.
When asked about the future of sunshine for the 2013 moto x, JCase said "not anytime soon."
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Ugh... Take a look at this post by gchase23 from a few nights ago -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...6gb-bootloader-unlocked-t3057964/post59532395
Notice he says "XT1060 4.4.3 VZW - Rooted" Um, XT1060 never had 4.4.3, only 4.4.2 and 4.4.4. So I'm not sure we'll get a straight answer, because I replied asking for clarification, and didn't get a response.
KidJoe said:
Ugh... Take a look at this post by gchase23 from a few nights ago -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...6gb-bootloader-unlocked-t3057964/post59532395
Notice he says "XT1060 4.4.3 VZW - Rooted" Um, XT1060 never had 4.4.3, only 4.4.2 and 4.4.4. So I'm not sure we'll get a straight answer, because I replied asking for clarification, and didn't get a response.
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Oh wow. Yeah, something is a bit off there.
JCase said something a while ago about a bunch of exploits he would be releasing. I was/am really hoping there would be something that we could use to gain root on the 2013 Moto X, but with his last comment on twitter, I'm not so sure that is going to happen.
If I were in any other situation, I would be looking for a new phone, but two things are preventing it. First, I love the Moto X and haven't found another phone I like better. Second, MY moto x is already unlocked (I held on to 4.4 until Sunshine came out). Its my wifes and my fathers that are not. Somehow they ended up on 4.4.4 without knowing it. They claim it just happened while they were sleeping. I more quickly suspect they tapped on it thinking it was an app update from the app store. But in any event, their phones are still locked.

AT&T Moto X 2014 on 5.0.1 Could I downgrade and unlock?

I got a fresh Moto X from AT&T with 5.0.1 on it and was wondering if I can downgrade and unlock? Every android I had I enjoyed the comfort of unlocking and rooting. I need that again.
hupo224 said:
I got a fresh Moto X from AT&T with 5.0.1 on it and was wondering if I can downgrade and unlock? Every android I had I enjoyed the comfort of unlocking and rooting. I need that again.
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You can't unlock the bootloader of an AT&T Moto X 2014 no matter what version of Android you are running. You need to sell it and buy the Pure Edition if you want to unlock the bootloader.

Is there a way to downgrade from 5.1 to 5.0 or below on Verizon?

If anyone could help me with this, it would be much appreciated.
I have a Moto X 2014 on Verizon that is unrooted and has a blocked bootloader, with Android 5.1 installed. Is there any way that I would be able to downgrade Android to 5.0 or even 4.4.4? As far as I can tell Verizon makes it impossible to unlock the bootloader so any non-bootloader methods would be preferable.
tokenmachineno.7 said:
If anyone could help me with this, it would be much appreciated.
I have a Moto X 2014 on Verizon that is unrooted and has a blocked bootloader, with Android 5.1 installed. Is there any way that I would be able to downgrade Android to 5.0 or even 4.4.4? As far as I can tell Verizon makes it impossible to unlock the bootloader so any non-bootloader methods would be preferable.
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I'm in your situation. We are screwed up, we can't do that
We have to wait for someone to root our phone.
So I also have stock/non-rooted MX14 from verizon. Wifi and Bluetooth have had problems since upgrading to Lollipop. You would think that VZW could downgrade me to get back to a stable release? I realize they don't want to but again the phone has problems due to their last upgrades...I guess their solution would be for me to buy a new phone.

Unlocked bootloader for at&t moto x 2014

Hey does anyone know if or when the moto x 2014 will get its bootloader officially unlocked by Motorola. Was researching on the site and it seems as though Verizon models are getting their bootloaders officially unlocked. Since they said the carrier models aren't getting marshmallow they could at least unlock our bootloaders so wencan get root and flash some roms. Or if anyone knows how to get it done unofficially..... I'm all ears. Thanks
I'm unlocked on Verizon, but att I don't know if or when. If you haven't upgraded above 5.0 you can root with mofo and unlock with sunshine.
Zekedw said:
Hey does anyone know if or when the moto x 2014 will get its bootloader officially unlocked by Motorola. Was researching on the site and it seems as though Verizon models are getting their bootloaders officially unlocked. Since they said the carrier models aren't getting marshmallow they could at least unlock our bootloaders so wencan get root and flash some roms. Or if anyone knows how to get it done unofficially..... I'm all ears. Thanks
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That's the thing, motorola never announced that verizon got it. It just magically started to work when someone tried to unlock his bootloader then they told all of us. There is no way to know if it will ever be able to be unlocked. But everyone can keep trying, maybe one day it will work.
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oraixearl said:
I'm unlocked on Verizon, but att I don't know if or when. If you haven't upgraded above 5.0 you can root with mofo and unlock with sunshine.
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Already upgraded to 5.1
Zekedw said:
Already upgraded to 5.1
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Don't know of a way outside of unlock code from moto then. If you can gain root (at least temp root) sunshine will still unlock it. But haven't seen anybody figure it out yet for 5.1. Maybe keep an eye on kingroot see if they've got it yet.
oraixearl said:
Don't know of a way outside of unlock code from moto then. If you can gain root (at least temp root) sunshine will still unlock it. But haven't seen anybody figure it out yet for 5.1. Maybe keep an eye on kingroot see if they've got it yet.
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It works now !!!
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Yann68 said:
It works now !!!
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What works now? Can you please guide me how to root and unlock bootloader of moto x 2014 at&t
abdullah.ahsan11 said:
What works now? Can you please guide me how to root and unlock bootloader of moto x 2014 at&t
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/root-bootloader-unlock-att-xt1097-5-1-t3309889
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/root-bootloader-unlock-att-xt1097-5-1-t3309889
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I've tried this already almost 20 times. Rooting via king Root won't get past 56% every time. Getting failure again and again and again.
abdullah.ahsan11 said:
I've tried this already almost 20 times. Rooting via king Root won't get past 56% every time. Getting failure again and again and again.
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Clear the cache of the app after it fails. Read the thread. It is random how it works...but it does.

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