I flashed all the way back to stock using fastboot and mfastboot to the 1053 4.4.3 firmware. When I tried to install the 4.4.4 OTA, I received the EMMC error. I'm using a 1053 on AT&T. Could it be that I had flashed the AT&T 4.4.4 then going back to 4.4.3 that could be causing the error?
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I flashed all the way back to stock using fastboot and mfastboot to the 1053 4.4.3 firmware. When I tried to install the 4.4.4 OTA, I received the EMMC error. I'm using a 1053 on AT&T. Could it be that I had flashed the AT&T 4.4.4 then going back to 4.4.3 that could be causing the error?
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Yes. Downgrade is a no no. Post all details.
I was on stock 4.4.3 and flashed a pre-rooted 4.4.4 AT&T image in TWRP. I had read somewhere that the BL's were the same between the two versions. I didn't like the AT&T version, so I flashed back to 1053 4.4.3. The phone has been working just fine. Now, I can't upgrade to the 1053 4.4.4 OTA update. Should I just wait for the SBF file to become available?
beefgoat said:
I was on stock 4.4.3 and flashed a pre-rooted 4.4.4 AT&T image in TWRP. I had read somewhere that the BL's were the same between the two versions. I didn't like the AT&T version, so I flashed back to 1053 4.4.3. The phone has been working just fine. Now, I can't upgrade to the 1053 4.4.4 OTA update. Should I just wait for the SBF file to become available?
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A ROM flash doesn't equal a firmware downgrade. RSD going downward is the problem.
But once on a custom recovery you need to backup your virgin "rom" to save it for any future OTA!
aviwdoowks said:
A ROM flash doesn't equal a firmware downgrade. RSD going downward is the problem.
But once on a custom recovery you need to backup your virgin "rom" to save it for any future OTA!
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Well, dooks. I'll just wait for the sbf.
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Question: Rather than incrementally update from 4.4 to 4.4.2 by OTA, can I just wait until the full 4.4.2 image is available and flash the full image?
I see a nice list of firmwares here, for example:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
I'm reluctant to do the update incrementally via OTA or manually, because I don't want to revert from TWRP to stock recovery. As things stand, I believe have a non-stock recovery is preventing me from receiving the OTA that TMobile is currently rolling out.
I have a DevEd GSM and am using TMobile. I'm entirely stock except for TWRP.
Thanks.
Once the US TMobile is available for 4.4.2 you should be able to fastboot (or mfastboot for the system.img) flash the update without losing your recovery. I'm sure someone will post specific steps to update unlocked bootloader, custom recovery phones once the 4.4.2 image is released. I have seen posts warning about not flashing the boot image because it can't be reverted, but I don't know if that affects phones with an unlocked bootloader.
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Once the US TMobile is available for 4.4.2 you should be able to fastboot (or mfastboot for the system.img) flash the update without losing your recovery. I'm sure someone will post specific steps to update unlocked bootloader, custom recovery phones once the 4.4.2 image is released. I have seen posts warning about not flashing the boot image because it can't be reverted, but I don't know if that affects phones with an unlocked bootloader.
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It does affect the unlocked bootloader people, that is why some people are waiting for the sbf. If you update via the OTA, it will install the new bootloader, regardless of lock status. Once on this new 4.4.2 bootloader, it is impossible to flash any stock images before 4.4.2 (you cannot go back to 4.4 or 4.4.2).
But why would you want to go back if you have an unlocked bootloader already? I don't really see any reason to flash an image that is earlier than the latest... if I were Moto, I would let people flash the earliest system image of that version of android (4.4 kitkat in our case). This would rectify the root situation (because 4.2.2 isn't kitkat), and it would keep the people happy as well.
varxx said:
Question: Rather than incrementally update from 4.4 to 4.4.2 by OTA, can I just wait until the full 4.4.2 image is available and flash the full image?
I see a nice list of firmwares here, for example:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0
I'm reluctant to do the update incrementally via OTA or manually, because I don't want to revert from TWRP to stock recovery. As things stand, I believe have a non-stock recovery is preventing me from receiving the OTA that TMobile is currently rolling out.
I have a DevEd GSM and am using TMobile. I'm entirely stock except for TWRP.
Thanks.
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You absolutely can manually flash the system image while having the 4.4 bootloader, you can also flash any 4.4.2 stock based ROM such as the 1052 European ROM that showed up today.
I was actually running the gummy ROM 4.4.2 while still on the 4.4 bootloader without any issue
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X
My Moto X won't boot, and it's 4.4.2 so the stock 4.4 image from Motorola won't flash. I get some type of gpt downgrade warning.
What can I do? I don't care about preserving data.
Thanks
fbiryujin said:
My Moto X won't boot, and it's 4.4.2 so the stock 4.4 image from Motorola won't flash. I get some type of gpt downgrade warning.
What can I do? I don't care about preserving data.
Thanks
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flash this 4.4.2 SBF file for verizon
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/download.php?device=0&file=841
enjoy
dray_jr said:
flash this 4.4.2 SBF file for verizon
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/download.php?device=0&file=841
enjoy
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Thanks. I will give that a shot tonight.
I don't understand why you believe you can't flash 4.4 over 4.4.2 with dev edition with an unlocked bootloader. That only applies to locked bootloaders.
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I don't understand why you believe you can't flash 4.4 over 4.4.2 with dev edition with an unlocked bootloader. That only applies to locked bootloaders.
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sorry you are wrong there that applies to all Moto X's
you can not flash 4.4 before the bootloader will not downgrade you will get a error when it tries.
the only upside to having a unlocked bootloader is that you can root any version of android by just installed a custom recovery then installing the SuperSU flashable zip file.
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dray_jr said:
sorry you are wrong there that applies to all Moto X's
you can not flash 4.4 before the bootloader will not downgrade you will get a error when it tries.
the only upside to having a unlocked bootloader is that you can root any version of android by just installed a custom recovery then installing the SuperSU flashable zip file.
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You're right. The 4.4.2 bootloader can't be downgraded regardless of model.
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You're right. The 4.4.2 bootloader can't be downgraded regardless of model.
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The 4.4.2 bootloader can't be downgraded; but I think the 4.4 system image and kernel could flashed just fine on an unlocked unit even if the bootloader has been upgraded for 4.4.2. You would need to flash the 4.4 manually so that it doesn't try and flash the 4.4 bootloader though.
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The 4.4.2 bootloader can't be downgraded; but I think the 4.4 system image and kernel could flashed just fine on an unlocked unit even if the bootloader has been upgraded for 4.4.2. You would need to flash the 4.4 manually so that it doesn't try and flash the 4.4 bootloader though.
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This is what I had to wind up doing as the other image I had wouldn't flash. I edited the xml to skip the gpt and bootloader, and it flashed 4.4 back. Updated again and I'm all good
fbiryujin said:
This is what I had to wind up doing as the other image I had wouldn't flash. I edited the xml to skip the gpt and bootloader, and it flashed 4.4 back. Updated again and I'm all good
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please dont do that if you need to flash the 4.4.2 for verizon. please grab it from SBF they have added the 4.4.2 SBF package for verizon on the website. i do not recommend editing the XML file for the chance or bricking your phone.
My moto x is XT1052 retail version, and I was regret to update to 4.4.4, so I flashed 4.4.2 version, but I stucked at partition so I stopped and find ways to back to 4.4.4, but I can't find a 4.4.4 asia retail version image for me to restore my phone via fastboot command, do anyone have the EU or Asia retail image of 4.4.4 of XT1052? I really need help!! Thank you soooo much!!!
rommanager said:
My moto x is XT1052 retail version, and I was regret to update to 4.4.4, so I flashed 4.4.2 version, but I stucked at partition so I stopped and find ways to back to 4.4.4, but I can't find a 4.4.4 asia retail version image for me to restore my phone via fastboot command, do anyone have the EU or Asia retail image of 4.4.4 of XT1052? I really need help!! Thank you soooo much!!!
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what do u mean Asia??
where u get the phone??
if is its retail XT1052 is the european one.
flash recovery img from 4.4.2 EU then reboot the bootloader and flash again ALL the firmware.
danger2u said:
what do u mean Asia??
where u get the phone??
if is its retail XT1052 is the european one.
flash recovery img from 4.4.2 EU then reboot the bootloader and flash again ALL the firmware.
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Actually, there IS an "AsiaRetail" variant of the XT1052 as well.
rommanager said:
My moto x is XT1052 retail version, and I was regret to update to 4.4.4, so I flashed 4.4.2 version, but I stucked at partition so I stopped and find ways to back to 4.4.4, but I can't find a 4.4.4 asia retail version image for me to restore my phone via fastboot command, do anyone have the EU or Asia retail image of 4.4.4 of XT1052? I really need help!! Thank you soooo much!!!
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You should have never attempted to downgrade. It is posted literally all over these forums to not attempt this. There is no 4.4.4 FXZ for any of the XT1052 variants yet. You can try some methods, but they all have risk. The only safe way to recover is to wait for the 4.4.4 FXZ to be released, but there's no telling when that will happen.
Some have had success by skipping the "flash partition gpt.bin" command, but if you do this you are at risk of bricking when you take the update back to 4.4.4. Again, some have been successful, but anyone that tells you it is completely safe is mistaken.
Good Luck :good:
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You should have never attempted to downgrade. It is posted literally all over these forums to not attempt this. There is no 4.4.4 FXZ for any of the XT1052 variants yet. You can try some methods, but they all have risk. The only safe way to recover is to wait for the 4.4.4 FXZ to be released, but there's no telling when that will happen.
Some have had success by skipping the "flash partition gpt.bin" command, but if you do this you are at risk of bricking when you take the update back to 4.4.4. Again, some have been successful, but anyone that tells you it is completely safe is mistaken.
Good Luck :good:
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Thank You for the answer
Hey, i got the verizon dev edition with unlocked boktloader and root device i flash xt1052 rom to get the ota to 5.1
And aftet i flashed the baseband of 4.4.4 xt1060 to get my network work.
But now i want to get back to 4.4.4 of the verizon dev edition and i download tgz fille from the motorola site
And i wanted to flash it on rsd lite but i didnt have the xml fille there? So i dont know what to do now?
Ty for help
harel013 said:
Hey, i got the verizon dev edition with unlocked boktloader and root device i flash xt1052 rom to get the ota to 5.1
And aftet i flashed the baseband of 4.4.4 xt1060 to get my network work.
But now i want to get back to 4.4.4 of the verizon dev edition and i download tgz fille from the motorola site
And i wanted to flash it on rsd lite but i didnt have the xml fille there? So i dont know what to do now?
Ty for help
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there is a high risk of bricking your device while downgrading http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-warning-risks-downgrading-impacts-t3058202
It's highly risky to downgrade but if you persist just make sure your bootloader and partition table is not the one that got upgtaded with the latest 5.1 rom. If it is the latest then don't do it.
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You can downgrade completely to 4.4.4.
But don't take OTA, your phone will brick.
The safest way in my opinion is (if you want to downgrade);
- Flash entire official firmware of XT1060 to your phone.
- DON'T TAKE OTA
- Wait for full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
- Flash full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
But if you want to play with 5.1, you can try this;
In my case, I have XT1056, and I wanted to play around with 5.1, so I converted from XT1056(4.4.4) to XT1053(4.4.4), then took OTA to XT1053 (5.1).
After that I tried AOSP but my bluetooth headset had a problem with phone function, then I decided to go back to official firmware again.
Since there is no Lollipop image for XT1053 or XT1056 now, I had to flash another variants like XT1052 and XT1058, but I got no signal.
I had to downgrade to XT1056(4.4.4) and using it for a day. After that I found out that file size of fsg.mbn differ by variants, then I downloaded XT1053(5.1 OTA) to get it.
I mixed up an entire XT1052(5.1 retail EN) with fsg.mbn from XT1053(5.1 OTA) and flashed them manually. Now my XT1056 works very well (with Xposed framework).
Keep in mind that YOU DO THIS ON YOUR OWN RISK.
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You can downgrade completely to 4.4.4.
But don't take OTA, your phone will brick.
The safest way in my opinion is (if you want to downgrade);
- Flash entire official firmware of XT1060 to your phone.
- DON'T TAKE OTA
- Wait for full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
- Flash full firmware of XT1060(5.1)
But if you want to play with 5.1, you can try this;
In my case, I have XT1056, and I wanted to play around with 5.1, so I converted from XT1056(4.4.4) to XT1053(4.4.4), then took OTA to XT1053 (5.1).
After that I tried AOSP but my bluetooth headset had a problem with phone function, then I decided to go back to official firmware again.
Since there is no Lollipop image for XT1053 or XT1056 now, I had to flash another variants like XT1052 and XT1058, but I got no signal.
I had to downgrade to XT1056(4.4.4) and using it for a day. After that I found out that file size of fsg.mbn differ by variants, then I downloaded XT1053(5.1 OTA) to get it.
I mixed up an entire XT1052(5.1 retail EN) with fsg.mbn from XT1053(5.1 OTA) and flashed them manually. Now my XT1056 works very well (with Xposed framework).
Keep in mind that YOU DO THIS ON YOUR OWN RISK.
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My situation is same with you. My phone is xt1056 sprint. I converted to xt1053, and got ota to 5.1. But I don't like stock 5.1,there are some bug with graphic... I flashed and used customs Rom CM, PA,Carbon...some day. But now, I want to come back 4.4.4. Can you guide me more details?
I think if you flash complete 4.4.4 from 5.1, phone will bricked, because bootloader can not downgrade as someone said in high risk ...topic. Maybe you can flash 4.4.4 fw with edit xml to NOT flash motoboot and gpt....
Right ?
And last question, if there is a method to flash back 4.4.4, can I flash 4.4.4 xt1053 ? I don't want my phone have many bloatware sprint xt1056.
md07 said:
My situation is same with you. My phone is xt1056 sprint. I converted to xt1053, and got ota to 5.1. But I don't like stock 5.1,there are some bug with graphic... I flashed and used customs Rom CM, PA,Carbon...some day. But now, I want to come back 4.4.4. Can you guide me more details?
I think if you flash complete 4.4.4 from 5.1, phone will bricked, because bootloader can not downgrade as someone said in high risk ...topic. Maybe you can flash 4.4.4 fw with edit xml to NOT flash motoboot and gpt....
Right ?
And last question, if there is a method to flash back 4.4.4, can I flash 4.4.4 xt1053 ? I don't want my phone have many bloatware sprint xt1056.
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You can flash back to 4.4.4 of XT1053 or XT1056 as you prefer, I think their radio are compatible.
But when 5.1 comes out, DON'T TAKE OTA. You have to wait for a full firmware to upgrade your phone.
I always use a manual flash method, so I don't have to edit an xml file.
When you downgrades, you will see a warning message, just ignore them.
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You can flash back to 4.4.4 of XT1053 or XT1056 as you prefer, I think their radio are compatible.
But when 5.1 comes out, DON'T TAKE OTA. You have to wait for a full firmware to upgrade your phone.
I always use a manual flash method, so I don't have to edit an xml file.
When you downgrades, you will see a warning message, just ignore them.
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Do you use fastening to flash fw? And you flash all part inside fw? Include motorboat and got... ? After flash, do you make unlock network again ?
I used mfastboot to flash all CGs to my phone. But you may try to skip some CGs like KidJoe said.
Every time when you return to stock or do a hard reset, you have to do the SIM-unlock process again.
harel013 said:
Hey, i got the verizon dev edition with unlocked boktloader and root device i flash xt1052 rom to get the ota to 5.1
And aftet i flashed the baseband of 4.4.4 xt1060 to get my network work.
But now i want to get back to 4.4.4 of the verizon dev edition and i download tgz fille from the motorola site
And i wanted to flash it on rsd lite but i didnt have the xml fille there? So i dont know what to do now?
Ty for help
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Moto is no longer including the XML to flash via RSDLite, but you could make your own if needed... instead they include a BATCH file which calls a copy of Moto's fastboot to flash it.
That being said... I WARN YOU!!! You will risk bricking your phone if you attempt to downgrade. While there is a slight chance the phone will not brick, we have enough who have bricked to say it is not safe!!
Some will say... "its ok, just skip motoboot.img and gpt.bin when flashing" that isn't safe either. If you later get prompted for and take an OTA update you'll again likely brick. Further when motoboot.img and GPT.BIN are missmatched from the rest of a STOCK Moto rom we've seen "bugs" or "issues" of things no working, like speaker phone, Settings -> Security menu, etc which are not a problem when all parts of your phone are consistent.
You're best bet... wait until a full 5.1 SBF for the Verizon XT1060 is either posted to Moto's web site of Dev Edition Images, or wait until a copy leaks... however, that too many also fail *IF* the GPT.BIN and components of motoboot.img are newer or different in the build you are running compared to what is made available as the XT1060 5.1 SBF.
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Moto is no longer including the XML to flash via RSDLite, but you could make your own if needed... instead they include a BATCH file which calls a copy of Moto's fastboot to flash it.
That being said... I WARN YOU!!! You will risk bricking your phone if you attempt to downgrade. While there is a slight chance the phone will not brick, we have enough who have bricked to say it is not safe!!
Some will say... "its ok, just skip motoboot.img and gpt.bin when flashing" that isn't safe either. If you later get prompted for and take an OTA update you'll again likely brick. Further when motoboot.img and GPT.BIN are missmatched from the rest of a STOCK Moto rom we've seen "bugs" or "issues" of things no working, like speaker phone, Settings -> Security menu, etc which are not a problem when all parts of your phone are consistent.
You're best bet... wait until a full 5.1 SBF for the Verizon XT1060 is either posted to Moto's web site of Dev Edition Images, or wait until a copy leaks... however, that too many also fail *IF* the GPT.BIN and components of motoboot.img are newer or different in the build you are running compared to what is made available as the XT1060 5.1 SBF.
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Yea i think i will wait for the full sbf 5.1 for verizon, i dont want to take the chance.
Thank you all for your help when the 5.1 update will come to the verizon you think?
Hi
I somehow wiped my system files and now my phone is practically useless. I have a moto x 2013 Asia retail version and i had lollipop installed.
1) Can somebody provide me with the official 5.1 asia retial firmware?
or
2) Can somebody please guide me how to downgrade my bootloader so that i can install 4.4.4.
I have TWRP version 2.8 as recovery on my phone.
keerat1990 said:
Hi
I somehow wiped my system files and now my phone is practically useless. I have a moto x 2013 Asia retail version and i had lollipop installed.
1) Can somebody provide me with the official 5.1 asia retial firmware?
or
2) Can somebody please guide me how to downgrade my bootloader so that i can install 4.4.4.
I have TWRP version 2.8 as recovery on my phone.
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You can use the RETEU version as of now and flash it in ur phone using RSDlite as ASIAN version is still not available
anadarco7 said:
You can use the RETEU version as of now and flash it in ur phone using RSDlite as ASIAN version is still not available
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Could you explain in detail how do i get back to 4.4.4? I am fairly new to all this. i'll update my phone over OTA later on.
Can you help me with 4.4.4? Step wise? I know about the manual flashing but when i do so it was my bootloader is updated so i cannot downgrade.
keerat1990 said:
I know about the manual flashing but when i do so it was my bootloader is updated so i cannot downgrade.
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That's true. You can not downgrade, if you are on a light, official side. But if you want to try dark side - flash your Asia region 4.4.4 without "gpt" and "motoboot" lines in its XML file. Once flashed 4.4.4, you can take OTA 5.1 on it without any problem.
A message to future users. Being on 5.1.1, then downgrade to 4.4.4, and taking 5.1 OTA - will brick. Don't do that.