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I just purchased a rooted Nexus 1 from eBay. It came with Cyanogen 6.0 RC3. 5.08 radio. I noticed it was always displaying an E for edge signal. I went into the phone menu (*#*#4636#*#*) to set it to WCDMA Only. It then would not get a signal at all. I set signal back (WCDMA perfered) and Flashed Cyanogen ROM again with 4.06 Radio. I still get only EDGE. I have another Nexus 1 and it goes between H and 3G (HSPA is active in my area). Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this or how to fix?
One is AT&T band and another is T-Mobile band, perhaps?
No they r for T-Mobile. The problem is it only shows edge and never 3g like it should.
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Try flashing back to stock to see if it keeps doing that.
Did you check settings>wireless & networks>mobile networks "use only 2g networks" unchecked. I assume you did since you know the (*#*#4636#*#*) method, but maybe someone else will read this who needs it. If that doesn't work I would test an ATT sim card to clear my curiosity.
adambenjamin said:
Did you check settings>wireless & networks>mobile networks "use only 2g networks" unchecked. I assume you did since you know the (*#*#4636#*#*) method, but maybe someone else will read this who needs it. If that doesn't work I would test an ATT sim card to clear my curiosity.
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Yes I did check this. What will testing phone with ATT sim card do? Phone is advertised as unlocked and rooted. What am I missing?
For 3g, T-Mobile USA exclusively uses the AWS 1700/2100 MHz frequency-band, and ATT uses the 850/2100 MHz band, so a special batch of N1's were made for ATT with different hardware. If a friend's ATT sim card picks up a 3G signal, it means you can't pick up T-mobile usa.
You said the phone was advertised as unlocked and rooted. The thing to check would be to ask if the phone is compatible with ATT's 3G bands or T-mobile's 3g bands. "Unlocked for all GMS carriers" for example, only tells you that it works on all EDGE networks. I haven't seen a Nexus One that can run both 3G networks, but they may exist. (Was there anything in the ad specifically about the 3g bands?)
The ATT Nexus One is more rare, you may be able to sell or trade with someone in the marketplace here on xda or on the internet somewhere.
Sanity check: shut down the phone, take off your battery cover, remove the battery and tell us the FCC ID. It's in the second of three lines of text below where the barcodes are.
My AWS (T-Mobile) Nexus One says:
FCC ID: NM8PB99100
If you have the AT&T version it should say:
FCC ID: NM8PB99110
Note the single-digit difference. If you have the AT&T version you'll want to trade it with someone else who has the T-Mobile version in order to get 3G. If this is the case, you're in luck, because the AT&T version is discontinued and lots of people would be very happy to obtain one from you.
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Sanity check: shut down the phone, take off your battery cover, remove the battery and tell us the FCC ID. It's in the second of three lines of text below where the barcodes are.
My AWS (T-Mobile) Nexus One says:
FCC ID: NM8PB99100
If you have the AT&T version it should say:
FCC ID: NM8PB99110
Note the single-digit difference. If you have the AT&T version you'll want to trade it with someone else who has the T-Mobile version in order to get 3G. If this is the case, you're in luck, because the AT&T version is discontinued and lots of people would be very happy to obtain one from you.
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Thanks for the information. You hit the nail on the head! The phone is marked as one of the early AT&T Unlocked models. I also had one of my friends put his AT&T card in the phone and it picked up 3g just fine. I spoke to seller of this phone on ebay and he said he would take item back. IS THERE ANY WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM SO THAT PHONE WILL WORK ON T-MOBILE?
att for tmobile nexus one
hello there, I would be interested in trading you that att nexus for my tmobile nexus one. Please let me know if you are interested, text @ 801-228-0176
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IS THERE ANY WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM SO THAT PHONE WILL WORK ON T-MOBILE?
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hmm...I don't think so.
Take it back to the seller or trade with someone
As many already stated in the thread (starting with me), you have AT&T Nexus, and there is NO WAY to make it work with T-Mobile. But, as also stated, you're lucky - lot of people will probably be happy to trade with you or buy it from you.
I just got a flawless AT&T Nexus One for next to nada $150 from a guy that heads up the IT department at a hospital, he had bought over a dozen f them and I mistakenly thought that since they were Google Nexus devices and since I had a "android data plan" and because I could make and receive calls and get on the web that all was good! What I didn't realize is that I'd be stuck on EDGE for good, they only real downside is that I cannot be on a call and surf the web at the same time, I'm just glad I got a pristine phone that's outta warranty, and running 2.3.6 (stock) and for only $150! Also I've always been a physical keyboard guy, so darn I get EDGE... I run the fastest web on my WEP encrypted network at home and hop on the VPN network at school, and now that the bastards at TMOB don't offer (unlimited) I really don't use alot of data anyways cause I don't goto social networking sites neways!
Any one wanting to trade a TMOB NEXUS ONE for a ATT NEXUS ONE??
I have been on ATT in the Chicago burbs for a few years now, been happy and satisfied with their service, no issues, and we have a good plan = 2 lines Unlimited minutes Unlimited texts, and 10GB shared Data for $130/Month. And with me on next it is $155/Month.
But I always like to at least root my Wife's phone for AdAway and XPosed stuff to tweak her phones better, and me I always root, and install Custom Recovery and ROM my phones, right now on a HTC One M8 converted to GPE and love this phone.
My point is, ATT has gotten worse and worse the last 18 months with locking down their phones, even root can take months to come by on flagship phones. And on principle it is really pissing me off, why give ATT money, if they won't even let me customize my phone anymore ? The ATT Note 2 I had two years ago, was the last best ATT phone IMO, I rooted it and ROM'd the heck out of that phone, but sadly with the new Note 4 those days are long gone and history with ATT.
Long story short, does T-Mobile offer competitive plans to what i currently have ? And how is their service in Chicago area ? Thank you
Well, you have two choices based on what you're interested in:
1. Switch service to T-Mobile. I also live in Chicago. The service isn't as good as AT&T here in the city, or elsewhere. LTE/3G data doesn't penetrate buildings as well. The calling and texting seems to be about the same when towers are near, but I know for a fact that AT&T has them beat in terms of coverage outside of major metro areas. I frequently drive between Chicago and Indianapolis- AT&T has 4G or LTE about 85% of the drive, while T-mobile will barely get phone calls to go through, much less high speed data. T-Mobile is cheaper service than AT&T, but you're getting what you pay for.
2. Buy the T-Mobile Note 4 off-contract and unlock it for AT&T. There are lots of threads here on xda about this- and it's what I've just done with my T-Mo note 4! I had done the same with my Note 3, there are presently no issues with t-mobile samsungs and at&T. connecting to LTE, phone calls, mms, sms, etc all works perfectly.
As you said, the AT&T variants are locked down and will probably remain that way. The ONLY note 4 you can buy that has the unlocked bootloader AS WELL AS support for LTE networks in the United States is the T-mobile Note 4. How much of a premium are you willing to pay for having the unlocked bootloader, is what you need to ask yourself. An off contract Note 4 from T-mobile costs $850 after Illinois taxes, and you'll need to activate the line for at least one day, meaning a few more bucks.
Hope that helps. I would go with option #2, especially if you're like me- grandfathered unlimited data from at&t.
obviously, the cost of the note 4's from t-mobile will decrease after the product is widely available and the initial hype dies down. So if you're enjoying your M8, wait a few months and grab a note 4 from swappa.com, ebay, or craigslist
Good points thanks.
I would almost like to test drive T-Mobile first for like a week, see how it is around town and in my office, etc... I am happy with ATT the past couple years, good service, it's just the principle of them locking down phones really irks me, and makes me want to take business elsewhere.
hey man, nice to see you here
I dont know about that other dude, but my service in the burr ridge/willowbrook area is fantastic with T-mobile
Also, I travel through lombard/villa park/elmhurst alot, and always have super strong signal, and in 8 months, I dont think I have dropped a single call; 4g speeds usually between 15-35 down,and 6-15 up, so I am one happy camper with Tmobile in chicagoland..
Do the test drive if you want confirmation yourself..
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hey man, nice to see you here
I dont know about that other dude, but my service in the burr ridge/willowbrook area is fantastic with T-mobile
Also, I travel through lombard/villa park/elmhurst alot, and always have super strong signal, and in 8 months, I dont think I have dropped a single call; 4g speeds usually between 15-35 down,and 6-15 up, so I am one happy camper with Tmobile in chicagoland..
Do the test drive if you want confirmation yourself..
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Hello neighbor
I work in Willowbrook, and most of my business is in the western burbs, so thanks for your input.
And the principle of the idea is pushing me away from ATT, the whole lockdown is so upsetting.
How quick is a port of our numbers from ATT to T-Mobile, if I pick up the Note 4 ?
If I recall, when I switched, the number porting was done by the time we left the store!
just bring in your old ATT bill, and make sure you know the password on your ATT account, and the porting should be really fast..
I am in IL, but downstate and live in the Metro St. Louis area. The comments about T-Mo coverage are spot on. If you are downtown, or within about a 10-15 mile radius of it, you should be good. I was a long time Verizon customer, and I jumped to T-Mo when VZW pissed me off with that "network optimization" nonsense.
My experience at the office with T-Mo has been great. Faster even that Verizon. At home (30 miles NE of downtown STL) it is a different story. Maybe 1 bar of HSPA (never LTE) inside my house. I don't travel much, so I can't comment there yet, but I will say that if you spend a lot of time on the road you probably are best off buying the T-Mo Note 4 and staying with AT&T.
I really like what T-Mo is trying to do, they just have to get more towers out there.
Porting the number takes less than 30 seconds flat... It is incredibly fast. (done it already with 2 lines from AT&T to T-Mobile) Now I have 3 lines in total with T-Mobile, (an old one plus 2 new ones coming from AT&T)
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I am in IL, but downstate and live in the Metro St. Louis area. The comments about T-Mo coverage are spot on. If you are downtown, or within about a 10-15 mile radius of it, you should be good. I was a long time Verizon customer, and I jumped to T-Mo when VZW pissed me off with that "network optimization" nonsense.
My experience at the office with T-Mo has been great. Faster even that Verizon. At home (30 miles NE of downtown STL) it is a different story. Maybe 1 bar of HSPA (never LTE) inside my house. I don't travel much, so I can't comment there yet, but I will say that if you spend a lot of time on the road you probably are best off buying the T-Mo Note 4 and staying with AT&T.
I really like what T-Mo is trying to do, they just have to get more towers out there.
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you know you can get them to "give" you a asus router, so you get a super wifi signal in your house, for data and calling...
wase4711 said:
you know you can get them to "give" you a asus router, so you get a super wifi signal in your house, for data and calling...
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Thanks, but I already have a better WiFi solution than their router. I had them send me their new LTE Booster and it helps a little, but it is still very spotty.
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Thanks, but I already have a better WiFi solution than their router. I had them send me their new LTE Booster and it helps a little, but it is still very spotty.
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can I ask what solution you have that is better than a free AC router?
I had the asus RT-AC87, but returned it, because I got the same wifi speeds from the T-Mobile router, as I did from the $300 RT87..
How did you get tmo to give you an Asus router? I just switched from att to tmo here in jersey and my reason was for cheaper prices. I'm still within my 14 days but I will say I'm impressed so far. Greats LTE speeds, no issues with calls. I have derive at work & home so I think I'll be staying. I'm on the note 3 now waiting for n4 pre-order.
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How did you get tmo to give you an Asus router? I just switched from att to tmo here in jersey and my reason was for cheaper prices. I'm still within my 14 days but I will say I'm impressed so far. Greats LTE speeds, no issues with calls. I have derive at work & home so I think I'll be staying. I'm on the note 3 now waiting for n4 pre-order.
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info here and via google..
http://www.phonearena.com/news/T-Mobiles-CellSpot-Wi-Fi-router-available-now_id60802
https://www.google.com/search?utm_s...tmobile+wifi+router+available+date&gws_rd=ssl
edouble312 said:
Well, you have two choices based on what you're interested in:
2. Buy the T-Mobile Note 4 off-contract and unlock it for AT&T. There are lots of threads here on xda about this- and it's what I've just done with my T-Mo note 4! I had done the same with my Note 3, there are presently no issues with t-mobile samsungs and at&T. connecting to LTE, phone calls, mms, sms, etc all works perfectly.
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So can you confirm the t mobile note 4 works fine with 4g lte on att? How did you unlock it? I current have the att note 3 on contract so would be paying out of contract prices and it seems to make more sense to go with t mobile if I want to customize it at some point or switch to t mobile later on. Also the t mobile note 4 is cheaper out of contract than att. If you are currently using the t mobile note 4 on att and everything works that's the route I'm going to go too. Just waiting for someone to verify that works as there are some threads with people having issues when going this route with the note 3. I've also heard if att ever asks for your imei or other phone info you should give them the numbers from an older att phone so they don't blacklist you and block you from using lte.
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So can you confirm the t mobile note 4 works fine with 4g lte on att? How did you unlock it? I current have the att note 3 on contract so would be paying out of contract prices and it seems to make more sense to go with t mobile if I want to customize it at some point or switch to t mobile later on. Also the t mobile note 4 is cheaper out of contract than att. If you are currently using the t mobile note 4 on att and everything works that's the route I'm going to go too. Just waiting for someone to verify that works as there are some threads with people having issues when going this route with the note 3. I've also heard if att ever asks for your imei or other phone info you should give them the numbers from an older att phone so they don't blacklist you and block you from using lte.
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correct about the imei. phone's working fine for me. speed tests are great, no issues with any LTE coverage. Maybe a little better than my previous phone- the T-mo Note 3 unlocked on AT&T.
I found a seller on eBay who got me the code. There's a thread in the questions/problems section that discusses my guys and all the other sellers.
Hello all,
I recently bought my wife and I new phones. I chose the US version of the 2nd Gen Moto G. This is model XT1064. We plan to use Consumer Cellular as it's cheaper than T-Mobile, but has all the features we need. Should I have bought the Global XT1063 model instead since Consumer Cellular uses AT&T's network? Obviously these are not LTE phones.
afremont said:
Hello all,
I recently bought my wife and I new phones. I chose the US version of the 2nd Gen Moto G. This is model XT1064. We plan to use Consumer Cellular as it's cheaper than T-Mobile, but has all the features we need. Should I have bought the Global XT1063 model instead since Consumer Cellular uses AT&T's network? Obviously these are not LTE phones.
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US model has Tmobile and ATT bands. Global model has ATT bands and 2G tmobile bands, (unless you are in a refarmed area)
if you are in ATT either one is good, dont be like me i bough the Globan and i was on ATT... had to change company(it was easier than returning the phone and getting the US one)
rolgar20 said:
US model has Tmobile and ATT bands. Global model has ATT bands and 2G tmobile bands, (unless you are in a refarmed area)
if you are in ATT either one is good, dont be like me i bough the Globan and i was on ATT... had to change company(it was easier than returning the phone and getting the US one)
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Ok, thank you for the reply. I seem to be missing something though. Why did you have to switch away from ATT if the global model is supposed to work with it?
We got the phones yesterday, and our SIM cards will be here today (wed). They shipped out of China on Friday and got here Tuesday, amazing. Compared to my droid HTC Incredible 1, this phones is big. I have them charged up, but haven't done anything with them yet. Our 32GB flash cards should be here today as well. I can't wait to see how well these phones work and what kind of signal we get in our home. Even if I have to go outside to make a call, I don't care. I'm just glad to be rid of the $160/month Verizon bill. It was an unlimited data plan, but we just don't use that much. 2.5GB shared should be plenty for us. If not, we'll switch to T-Mobile. Either way, it will still be a ton cheaper than what we were paying. I hope this phone holds up as good as the Incredibles did. I guess I'm officially old now since I'm switching to CC.
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Ok, thank you for the reply. I seem to be missing something though. Why did you have to switch away from ATT if the global model is supposed to work with it?
We got the phones yesterday, and our SIM cards will be here today (wed). They shipped out of China on Friday and got here Tuesday, amazing. Compared to my droid HTC Incredible 1, this phones is big. I have them charged up, but haven't done anything with them yet. Our 32GB flash cards should be here today as well. I can't wait to see how well these phones work and what kind of signal we get in our home. Even if I have to go outside to make a call, I don't care. I'm just glad to be rid of the $160/month Verizon bill. It was an unlimited data plan, but we just don't use that much. 2.5GB shared should be plenty for us. If not, we'll switch to T-Mobile. Either way, it will still be a ton cheaper than what we were paying. I hope this phone holds up as good as the Incredibles did. I guess I'm officially old now since I'm switching to CC.
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Nono, i boguh the global model (the one without tmpbiles 3G band) and i was on tmpbile at that moment, so when i got the phone i changed to an ATT mvno called cricket wireless that works on atts tower signals.
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Nono, i boguh the global model (the one without tmpbiles 3G band) and i was on tmpbile at that moment, so when i got the phone i changed to an ATT mvno called cricket wireless that works on atts tower signals.
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Ok, I understand. Any reason you chose Cricket over Consumer Cellular? Is it because you use a lot of data? Cricket looks to be the best deal if you want a lot of data and only one line. I can't tell, but if you have two lines do you "share" the data allowance, or is it for each phone like t-mobile does. CC shares the data allowance and talk/text limits across all the phones so each additional line is only $10. If we start using a lot of data, we may switch to t-mobile or cricket, whatever is the cheapest to use for us. Right now we use less than 1GB/month between us, usually less than 500MB total per month. We don't text either or talk very much on the phone.
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Ok, I understand. Any reason you chose Cricket over Consumer Cellular? Is it because you use a lot of data? Cricket looks to be the best deal if you want a lot of data and only one line. I can't tell, but if you have two lines do you "share" the data allowance, or is it for each phone like t-mobile does. CC shares the data allowance and talk/text limits across all the phones so each additional line is only $10. If we start using a lot of data, we may switch to t-mobile or cricket, whatever is the cheapest to use for us. Right now we use less than 1GB/month between us, usually less than 500MB total per month. We don't text either or talk very much on the phone.
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where i live there was a promotion where you got 100 dollar credit when switching to cricket lol so i got the 35 dollar plan (15 dollar more than what i paid with tmobile) and i got 3 months paid, my family was on cricket already i was the only one that moved out but since it was bought by ATT i needed to see what was new on cricket, and i gotta say its good c: unlimited everything for 35 dollars
rolgar20 said:
where i live there was a promotion where you got 100 dollar credit when switching to cricket lol so i got the 35 dollar plan (15 dollar more than what i paid with tmobile) and i got 3 months paid, my family was on cricket already i was the only one that moved out but since it was bought by ATT i needed to see what was new on cricket, and i gotta say its good c: unlimited everything for 35 dollars
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Cricket looks to be a lot cheaper than T-Mobile around here. CC is the cheapest provider that I could find, but they nail you for overages. They now support LTE phones which is fairly new I think. They don't have any "unlimited" plans and you have to share your data/talk/text with everyone on the plan. They don't charge you anything for the SIM card though. Verizon seems to be the most expensive guys out there for family or single lines. Their coverage was good though.
afremont said:
Hello all,
I recently bought my wife and I new phones. I chose the US version of the 2nd Gen Moto G. This is model XT1064. We plan to use Consumer Cellular as it's cheaper than T-Mobile, but has all the features we need. Should I have bought the Global XT1063 model instead since Consumer Cellular uses AT&T's network? Obviously these are not LTE phones.
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As mentioned with T-Mobile YMMV depending on where your at, I use the Global Moto G 2014 for my business phone hooked up to T-Mobile and with my travels around I've been getting a good 8-10mbps upload and 2-3mpbs download speed with my phone usually being on H+ and in weaker areas 3G with Edge (2G) only rarely popping up when I'm deep in a data center or in the middle of a big concrete building.
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As mentioned with T-Mobile YMMV depending on where your at, I use the Global Moto G 2014 for my business phone hooked up to T-Mobile and with my travels around I've been getting a good 8-10mbps upload and 2-3mpbs download speed with my phone usually being on H+ and in weaker areas 3G with Edge (2G) only rarely popping up when I'm deep in a data center or in the middle of a big concrete building.
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Following up, man what an ordeal to get the data working. CC even sells this model of the phone now, and I could have bought from them for $30 less per phone ($150). Oh well, live and learn. I don't know if they are selling the US or the Global model though.
Didn't have any trouble getting the numbers transferred or getting the voice service to work. Even though data was "enabled" online in the account settings, the phones weren't connecting to the mobile data service. I didn't notice until I left the house for the day.
They are really nice and try to help, but first level support is lacking in technical expertise. They couldn't remotely configure it so I had to wait for second level help to save the day, more or less. They gave me some APN settings that got it limping along at about 512Kbps (yes that's bits per second) even though the phone showed H+ in the display. After spending a couple hours on google reading about APN settings, I was able to make some "adjustments" and get it moving at around 4Mbps down and about 300Kbps up. Certainly not LTE speeds, but usable nonetheless. I have no idea if MMS (whatever that is exactly) works or not, but the web is working now.
I really like the phone. It's way way faster than the Droid Incredible 1 that we had been using for the last 4 years. At 1/3 the cost per month, I can live with the data speeds.
EDIT: I just ran a speed test in good signal area and I'm getting 7.5Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up. I can definitely live with that. Not bad for H+ considering that most LTE users I know are getting pretty much the same here in Houston.
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Following up, man what an ordeal to get the data working. CC even sells this model of the phone now, and I could have bought from them for $30 less per phone ($150). Oh well, live and learn. I don't know if they are selling the US or the Global model though.
Didn't have any trouble getting the numbers transferred or getting the voice service to work. Even though data was "enabled" online in the account settings, the phones weren't connecting to the mobile data service. I didn't notice until I left the house for the day.
They are really nice and try to help, but first level support is lacking in technical expertise. They couldn't remotely configure it so I had to wait for second level help to save the day, more or less. They gave me some APN settings that got it limping along at about 512Kbps (yes that's bits per second) even though the phone showed H+ in the display. After spending a couple hours on google reading about APN settings, I was able to make some "adjustments" and get it moving at around 4Mbps down and about 300Kbps up. Certainly not LTE speeds, but usable nonetheless. I have no idea if MMS (whatever that is exactly) works or not, but the web is working now.
I really like the phone. It's way way faster than the Droid Incredible 1 that we had been using for the last 4 years. At 1/3 the cost per month, I can live with the data speeds.
EDIT: I just ran a speed test in good signal area and I'm getting 7.5Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up. I can definitely live with that. Not bad for H+ considering that most LTE users I know are getting pretty much the same here in Houston.
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I've been using the Moto G 2014 (XT-1063) with Consumer Cellular for about a month now and am very pleased with it. I think you will be quite happy. We have the 2 gig data plan (shared) and have no problem staying under the limit. We live in a rural area and the download/upload speeds are very good. The overall performance of this phone is fantastic. My wife has a Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini and this phone out performs it.
I found the APN settings for Consumer Cellular online two years ago, when I got my first smart phone (a Huaweii 8800), so it was just a matter of copying them over to my new phone. But I do know from experience that when you call their customer service, it is iffy as to whether you get a rep who knows the answer to your question.
MMS (Multimedia Message Service) deals with photos, video and audio that you include in a text message, as opposed to SMS (Short Message Service) which is text only. If you want to test its functionality, send somebody a text with a photo attached.
FYI - the model Moto G that Consumer Cellular sells is the first generation model, thus the lower price.
pastorbob62 said:
I've been using the Moto G 2014 (XT-1063) with Consumer Cellular for about a month now and am very pleased with it. I think you will be quite happy. We have the 2 gig data plan (shared) and have no problem staying under the limit. We live in a rural area and the download/upload speeds are very good. The overall performance of this phone is fantastic. My wife has a Samsung Galaxy S4 Mini and this phone put performs it.
FYI - the model Moto G that Consumer Cellular sells is the first generation model, thus the lower price.
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Ok, so you have the Global model then. Can you tell me what your APN settings are? I found that by clearing the first Proxy and Port fields, that my speed increased drastically along with response time.
FYI - CC actually sells the 2014 as a Moto G EXT, they just listed it this week. The 2013 sells for $100 and the 2014 goes for $150, no kidding. I wish I'd have waited a week before buying phones directly from Motorola. I could have saved $29 per phone by buying them from CC. I'd like to know what model CC is selling though, XT1063 or XT1064. I'm still wondering if I should have bought the XT-1063 instead since T-Mobile has already upgraded (refarmed?) their stuff in houston.
So far, I'm very happy with the Moto G 2014. It's a little big compared to my old phone, but I'm getting used to that. It still fits in my pocket. I wish it had a metal back instead of plastic, but it still looks and feels like a well made phone. Can't beat that Gorilla Glass for durability. My 4 year old HTC Droid Incredible still looks like brand new. I'm going to put a new battery in it and give it to my kid. I don't think it will work with CC since it's a CDMA phone, but Straight Talk says it will work with their service. It doesn't use a SIM card either. The HTC Droid Incredible was a fairly high end phone back when it was new. It even has an 8Mpixel camera in it.
afremont said:
Ok, so you have the Global model then. Can you tell me what your APN settings are? I found that by clearing the first Proxy and Port fields, that my speed increased drastically along with response time.
FYI - CC actually sells the 2014 as a Moto G EXT, they just listed it this week. The 2013 sells for $100 and the 2014 goes for $150, no kidding. I wish I'd have waited a week before buying phones directly from Motorola. I could have saved $29 per phone by buying them from CC. I'd like to know what model CC is selling though, XT1063 or XT1064. I'm still wondering if I should have bought the XT-1063 instead since T-Mobile has already upgraded (refarmed?) their stuff in houston.
So far, I'm very happy with the Moto G 2014. It's a little big compared to my old phone, but I'm getting used to that. It still fits in my pocket. I wish it had a metal back instead of plastic, but it still looks and feels like a well made phone. Can't beat that Gorilla Glass for durability. My 4 year old HTC Droid Incredible still looks like brand new. I'm going to put a new battery in it and give it to my kid. I don't think it will work with CC since it's a CDMA phone, but Straight Talk says it will work with their service. It doesn't use a SIM card either. The HTC Droid Incredible was a fairly high end phone back when it was new. It even has an 8Mpixel camera in it.
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Wow! That is interesting about CC selling the 2nd Gen now. I looked at their offerings before I bought my phone and they didn't have it yet thus I went with one from Amazon. No regrets though as I was ready to upgrade and I got a month's usage out of it before they offered it. My old phone was just too obsolete. The newest version of Android I could find in the custom ROM's was 2.3.8. There were several apps I wanted to use that are not compatible with it. CC is doing much better at staying up on more current phones. They now offer the iPhone 6 as well. We've been with them for four years and this year has been a dramatic difference with their offerings.
My APN settings are as follows :
Name - Consumer Cellular
APN - att.mvno
Proxy - Not Set
Port - Not Set
Username - Not Set
Password - Not Set
Server - http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMSC - http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS proxy - 66.209.11.32
MMS port - 80
MCC - 310
MNC - 410
Authentication type - Not Set
APN type - default,mms,supl,hipri
APN protocol - IPv4
APN roaming protocol - IPv4
Bearer - Unspecified
MVNO type - GID
MVNO value - 2AC9
My speeds are 6.98 mbps download / 1..23 mbps upload. I'm very happy with that.
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Wow! That is interesting about CC selling the 2nd Gen now. I looked at their offerings before I bought my phone and they didn't have it yet thus I went with one from Amazon. No regrets though as I was ready to upgrade and I got a month's usage out of it before they offered it. My old phone was just too obsolete. The newest version of Android I could find in the custom ROM's was 2.3.8. There were several apps I wanted to use that are not compatible with it. CC is doing much better at staying up on more current phones. They now offer the iPhone 6 as well. We've been with them for four years and this year has been a dramatic difference with their offerings.
My APN settings are as follows :
Name - Consumer Cellular
APN - att.mvno
Proxy - Not Set
Port - Not Set
Username - Not Set
Password - Not Set
Server - http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMSC - http://mmsc.cingular.com
MMS proxy - 66.209.11.32
MMS port - 80
MCC - 310
MNC - 410
Authentication type - Not Set
APN type - default,mms,supl,hipri
APN protocol - IPv4
APN roaming protocol - IPv4
Bearer - Unspecified
MVNO type - GID
MVNO value - 2AC9
My speeds are 6.98 mbps download / 1..23 mbps upload. I'm very happy with that.
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Yeah, I kinda wish I would have waited a week and gotten my phones from CC since they're so much cheaper through them. The savings would have paid for the 32MB SD card and a protector.
My settings are pretty much the same except that I have:
APN type - default,mms,supl,agps,fota
MVNO type - none and the MVNO value is greyed out
I've tried hipri, but it didn't seem to help at all. It's my understanding that fota allows for OTA updating. I guess agps tells the phone that it can get supplemental position information from the network, but I'm just guessing on that.
If I set MVNO type to GID, my specially named APN profile vanishes and I can't select it from the previous screen. I also see one named AT&T PHONE with an APN value of phone. I don't know what that one is for, but I do know it doesn't work if I select it.
My speeds are all over the place. I guess it's due to congestion. I can pick the same server that gave me 7.5Mbps and it gives me about 2Mbps from my home even with 4 bars of strength. I get the best speeds when I'm away from home for some reason. Well, except when WiFi is turned on then I get about 52Mbps down and 12Mbps up.
Hi everyone, waiting for my Nexus to get shipped from the GPS but I've seen some anecdotal reports on here and the Android Central forums about the signal strength not being so great on this phone. Specifically, some people report that their LG Nexus 5 shows a better signal in dB (not just bars) than their Nexus 6.
I'm a little concerned about this. I relocated just over a year ago to an area where I don't have the best coverage with Verizon at my work. At that time, I had a Galaxy S3 which had terrible radios where I literally had no coverage in many places. I upgraded to an S4 and had no issues since then although my wife's Note 3 seems to do slightly better getting LTE when I drop to 3G. Was looking forward to getting this phone as it will be my first Motorola and I've always read that Moto has some of the best radios (also read LG and Apple do too). Not gonna turn this into a Note 4 vs Nexus 6 thread because that one already exists and is a hot mess but I've been reading that the signal strength on the Note 4 is really good.
I have a ship date of 11/26 so I guess I'll find out soon enough but just wondering what people's experience has been with the Nexus 6.
Thanks!
I'm curious about this as well, I have a Nexus 4 and find its radios to be more powerful than my siblings and gfs Nexus 5s.
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Mine has about the same reception if not a little better than my G3. Att is really bad where I live but I usually have LTE except for a few places but its much better than my wife's S5
i think people just get too caught up in graphical representations of signal (i.e. signal bars). Different phones and carriers show different things for the same level of actual signal. In my experience on T-Mobile on Long Island/ NYC - i get as good if not better signal than i did with my nexus 5. There are a few spots where i had no signal with my nexus 5 that i now get a stable weak signal with the nexus 6. To me, it really has been as good or better, but certainly not worse. With that said, graphically spots where the nexus 5 said i had full bars of service (5/5), the N6 reports as having (4/5), but the service is the same. Speed tests and dbm all match up, so i can just assume it's the way it's being displayed.
The sony Z3 I had had the same dbm that the Nexus 6 is showing in my office, but the visual bars on the Nexus 6 show as being lower. I haven't had any slower speeds anywhere with the Nexus 6 so far. One thing I have noticed is that I'm not getting 4G while on the phone the majority of the time. I haven't had that be an issue in the past. I'm on T-Mobile.
Now THIS is something that I have really been wanting to know. The fact that I too have heard about how good Moto's radios have been in the past really got my hopes up for this phone. I currently rock an AT&T Note 3. And IDK if I just got a lemon, or if Samsung really did throw the cheapest POS radio in their last year flagship phone. But of all the android phones I have owned (Sony, HTC, Moto, samsung) this one gets hands down the worst signal strength I have ever had. Further more, I make it a habbit to compare this thing to every other AT&T phone I can, from friends and family. And not one of them has ever had worse signal strength than I. The closest one had about -3dB less than mine. Most had -5 or even -10dB better. Even after flashing every single AT&T radio firmware, different cases, it still is just terrible. Right now sitting in my house it is at -100 and showing 3 bars. I work as a drive tester for cell towers, and my test phone is a sprint Nexus 5. So I cant compare it to my note, being on a different network.
But on to the topic of the N6, since it has radios for pretty much every network, would that mean that said radios are of a lesser quality? I had really hoped that this phone would blow my Note 3 out of the water on AT&T. Honestly, even if it isn't as good as other Moto phones, it still has to be better than my Note 3. Even dads S5 active and moms S4 get much better signal strength numbers than mine. Forgive me for asking this, but is this something that can be improved within the dev community with some flashing, or is it just a hardware limitation?
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Now THIS is something that I have really been wanting to know. The fact that I too have heard about how good Moto's radios have been in the past really got my hopes up for this phone. I currently rock an AT&T Note 3. And IDK if I just got a lemon, or if Samsung really did throw the cheapest POS radio in their last year flagship phone. But of all the android phones I have owned (Sony, HTC, Moto, samsung) this one gets hands down the worst signal strength I have ever had. Further more, I make it a habbit to compare this thing to every other AT&T phone I can, from friends and family. And not one of them has ever had worse signal strength than I. The closest one had about -3dB less than mine. Most had -5 or even -10dB better. Even after flashing every single AT&T radio firmware, different cases, it still is just terrible. Right now sitting in my house it is at -100 and showing 3 bars. I work as a drive tester for cell towers, and my test phone is a sprint Nexus 5. So I cant compare it to my note, being on a different network.
But on to the topic of the N6, since it has radios for pretty much every network, would that mean that said radios are of a lesser quality? I had really hoped that this phone would blow my Note 3 out of the water on AT&T. Honestly, even if it isn't as good as other Moto phones, it still has to be better than my Note 3. Even dads S5 active and moms S4 get much better signal strength numbers than mine. Forgive me for asking this, but is this something that can be improved within the dev community with some flashing, or is it just a hardware limitation?
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Some radios worked a little better on my note 3 but some were worse ...it was a crap shoot. ....but none were far and away better ....like you my note 3 got horrible signal on sprint ....g3 was worse for me so this has to be better lol
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Some radios worked a little better on my note 3 but some were worse ...it was a crap shoot. ....but none were far and away better ....like you my note 3 got horrible signal on sprint ....g3 was worse for me so this has to be better lol
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Haha I am not alone! Well, here's to better signal in the N6!!!
Seems to me that the nexus 6 reports low signal as time without signal. Hasn't been an issue here as I'm always connected to lte even in places I'd drop to 3g
So anything new on Signal? I'm trying to buy a Nexus6 but haven't been able to on Verizon. Hope there is some good news there has been a lot of bad.
wooddale said:
So anything new on Signal? I'm trying to buy a Nexus6 but haven't been able to on Verizon. Hope there is some good news there has been a lot of bad.
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Best and most consistent connection/speeds of any device I've owned on Verizon.
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Make sure when u unlock your device that you change your cellular networks to LTE. When I unlock my device I wasn't getting no cell signal or phone call and I noticed my networks were set at ( Global ) so I switched it back to LTE.
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Make sure when u unlock your device that you change your cellular networks to LTE. When I unlock my device I wasn't getting no cell signal or phone call and I noticed my networks were set at ( Global ) so I switched it back to LTE.
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What Carrier are you on?
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What Carrier are you on?
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Tmobile
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Tmobile
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I'm on Verizon and really doesn't make much difference on my Droid Maxx. Maybe its something in 5.0. I gotta give it a shot can always send it back if I can ever get one. Pisses me off I got the money for the phone and I can't buy it. Maybe that's some kind of sign. lol
I get a little better signal than my wife's Note 4 in the same locations. She has an otterbox commuter case on though and I'm still running around naked.
I have similar experiences with my N6, or had. I've only had it for 2 days though, but I was having signal drop out and 3g/LTE switching a lot yesterday. I changed my APN protocol to IPV4/IPV6 instead of IPV6 and today its been fine. I don't know if that actually had anything to do with it or not, but thought I'd share. I think its just a coincidence and for some reason my signal just decided to work better. Worth a shot.
So I changed to LTE and now I don't have a global option.... I travel internationally for work very expensively (T-Mobile free worldwide data ftw) and had found previously on my Nexus 5 that I needed to be on global for it to work anywhere else...
Any ideas here?
When there's a CDMA SIM in the phone (Verizon/Sprint), it shows the global option where it can use both CDMA and GSM networks. When there's a GSM SIM in the phone (Tmo, AT&T, etc.), it seems to go into GSM-only mode (no need to display global, which seems to mean GSM+CDMA in the Nexus 6's case).
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So I changed to LTE and now I don't have a global option.... I travel internationally for work very expensively (T-Mobile free worldwide data ftw) and had found previously on my Nexus 5 that I needed to be on global for it to work anywhere else...
Any ideas here?
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When there's a CDMA SIM in the phone (Verizon/Sprint), it shows the global option where it can use both CDMA and GSM networks. When there's a GSM SIM in the phone (Tmo, AT&T, etc.), it seems to go into GSM-only mode (no need to display global, which seems to mean GSM+CDMA in the Nexus 6's case).
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Interesting change from the Nexus 5. Previously, I had to be sure global was selected overseas as opposed to just LTE, so you can see why I was originally concerned. Good to know. Thanks for the info man!
So I'm just reaching out to see if anyone else has had any weird issues like I am using Verizon on the OP 6T.
When the phone has full control over band steering it appears to hug on band 13 for its primary band even when band 4 has plenty of SNR (20 plus DB)
I know the cell config's in my area allow for dual band 4/66 primary 20MHz + 10 MHz and 1 Band 13 10MHz 3CA on most cell sites (confirmed on the cell site on testing on with a Pixel 3 XL).
I've also forced band 4 by disabling band 2 and 13 (the low bands) and it work's great!
It hinders upload performance by a decent bit, usually the cell config's only allow single channel uploads no 2CA around here so if it picks 13 for the primary I'm usually only getting about 15 Mbps up vs 50 ish on band 4.
Possible modem firmware bug?
I really don't understand what are you talking about xD
For sure about something wrong with Verizon signal in mid range (that is all I got).
I have the OP6T on Verizon in CA. Tell me what is that app and I can give you my results. So we can be sure that is not a problem with the phone (probably)
Cheers
I have no issues with my OP6T on Verizon. I got it day one and once I got the CDMAless thing straight, It works very well. I get a better signal at my house than I have with any Verizon phone before it. Mine seems to stick to Band 4 wherever it is available.
I have no issue with Verizon where I live. I never even had to call in to enable CDMA_Less. My phone hangs around LTE Band 13 and XLTE 4 most of the time. I live in a central city and there is good service anywhere so that may not be the case with you.
What app is That and how can we help test our area?
Edit, it is called Network Signal Guru in the app store, not sure what to make of it.
I use Network Info Lite in the past. But this is all above my head and knowledge what TS is talking about..haha
I got Verizon what is this cdmaless thing
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I got Verizon what is this cdmaless thing
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It is check box on your account that when the 6T launched you had to call and get a Verizon tech to do on your account. At first the Verizon system was not recognizing the devices correctly. Without them changing that you could not get MMS messages. I assume that is not needed anymore.
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It is check box on your account that when the 6T launched you had to call and get a Verizon tech to do on your account. At first the Verizon system was not recognizing the devices correctly. Without them changing that you could not get MMS messages. I assume that is not needed anymore.
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IDK, I had to call them, because my texts wouldn't work. Came from a Pixel and Essential phone with my Sim. Put it in the 6T 2 months ago, phone worked, calls, but not text. Called VZW, the person with support handled it immediately, powered the phone...all good after that. So not sure if people still need to call, but doesn't hurt. They are eventually moving to all CDMAless from what I understand in the future?!?!