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Hi all,
Got a sensation XL here which isn't rooted, nor has it been altered in anyway, not sure what happened to it to be honest and it's not actually mine either.
It's still s-on, I can get to the bootloader no problem, but factory reset just doesn't do anything, it just puts it back in the boot loop.
Any ideas?
Thanks.
PS: I'm thinking it's bricked.
Lock the bootloader (if that's been unlocked) and then try flashing the RUU to put it back to factory.
You're in england, so unless it's branded, the RUU you need is in the RUU thread in the dev forum, and it's 1.05.401.x that you want.
MinecraftZombi.es said:
Lock the bootloader (if that's been unlocked) and then try flashing the RUU to put it back to factory.
You're in england, so unless it's branded, the RUU you need is in the RUU thread in the dev forum, and it's 1.05.401.x that you want.
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It's not been unlocked, it's just a stock handset, not branded, so with the official ruu, how do i flash it?
Thanks for replying m8.
make sure htc sync is installed on a PC (just for the drivers, you don't want to actually use it)
Plug the phone in via the USB (Direct, not through a hub)
Run RUU file on PC.
that should be it.
Thanks pal, fingers crossed eh.
Will let you know if it worked.
It didn't work
Tried both of the Europe RUU's but it still hasn't worked, says signature error?
Both of the files took an hour to download each.
Seriously hating this now
Any other ideas??
Thanks.
if that hasn't worked, next thing i'd try is to flash a custom ROM.
Can it get into fastboot?
If so, i'd unlock the bootloader, install the recovery and see if you can flash one of the custom ROMs.
MinecraftZombi.es said:
if that hasn't worked, next thing i'd try is to flash a custom ROM.
Can it get into fastboot?
If so, i'd unlock the bootloader, install the recovery and see if you can flash one of the custom ROMs.
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Yea i went ahead and unlocked it but it's not letting me into the recovery, any ideas?
dladz said:
Yea i went ahead and unlocked it but it's not letting me into the recovery, any ideas?
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Actually no i didn't i just used the HTC method.
What can i flash to get this thing working man, it's killing me, even factory reset doesn't work? That's just not normal, i'm s-on, i don't think theres an s-off method for the XL yet? Maybe there is.
But i'm really restricted as to what i can do, i've got fastboot and it works fine but besides that i'm lost.
factory reset uses the recovery partition. if that's chuffed, so's your hard reset.
I have attached the stock recovery from 1.05
go into fastboot.
when there, enter
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
That should re-flash the recovery as long as your bootloader is unlocked. that might bring it back to life.
if it fails, flash the CWM recovery and then use a custom ROM
download the paul o'brien recovery and then use the same command as above, but using the name of the modaco recovery file
Code:
fastboot flash recovery r1-recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.7-modaco-runnymede.img
that should then allow you to flash a custom ROM
Ok so it's not bootlooping now on factory reset, it's just stopped on the white HTC screen after hitting factory reset.
I'll leave it there for a bit and see how it goes, i don't think it's going to progress though.
The device is defo unlocked.
Going into recovery brings it back to the bootloop.
It's different on factory reset just not recovery and neither are progressing, i'll give the other recovery a whirl.
Lol failed battery low
MinecraftZombi.es said:
factory reset uses the recovery partition. if that's chuffed, so's your hard reset.
I have attached the stock recovery from 1.05
go into fastboot.
when there, enter
Code:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
That should re-flash the recovery as long as your bootloader is unlocked. that might bring it back to life.
if it fails, flash the CWM recovery and then use a custom ROM
download the paul o'brien recovery and then use the same command as above, but using the name of the modaco recovery file
Code:
fastboot flash recovery r1-recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.7-modaco-runnymede.img
that should then allow you to flash a custom ROM
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Nah m8, none of them worked or changed anything, the only difference being that factory reset on the stock recovery just stayed on the white htc screen, no change besides that.
Any other ideas? and thanks for taking the time to help me too.
I appreciate it.
I'm really not sure what else to suggest. if recovery just isn't loading after being flashed, then it suggests some sort of brick i think...
Even if there's no ROM installed, once a recovery is flashed, you should be able to at least access the recovery and from there install some sort of rom.
I'm beginning to suspect that it is indeed bricked, as you did in the first post.
MinecraftZombi.es said:
I'm really not sure what else to suggest. if recovery just isn't loading after being flashed, then it suggests some sort of brick i think...
Even if there's no ROM installed, once a recovery is flashed, you should be able to at least access the recovery and from there install some sort of rom.
I'm beginning to suspect that it is indeed bricked, as you did in the first post.
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well i've been looking for some official ruu's to flash, one up from the one i'm on would do it i reckon, or at least give me a starting block.
I tried the test rom from a thread and now i can't find it
Will look again, find it and flash it, the test one didn't work, so i'm going to try a slightly older one.
fingers crossed, again.
Help please my phone won't go in recovery I am rooted every thing else works fine so I can'tput a Rom on or any mods aaaahhhh
Should be in Q&A
i have the same problem. i am trying to flash v6.0.3.0 now to see if this is the solution
shino82 said:
i have the same problem. i am trying to flash v6.0.3.0 now to see if this is the solution
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Let me know if it works and how you done it that would be great thanks
Working with flyhalfs touch (CWM) version, everything is fine.
After flashing the recovery u should fastboot erase cache.
If u got no rom on SD u should connect an OTG before booting into recovery and flash zip from external sd.
LG, Helmut
hd2neuling said:
Working with flyhalfs touch (CWM) version, everything is fine.
After flashing the recovery u should fastboot erase cache.
If u got no rom on SD u should connect an OTG before booting into recovery and flash zip from external sd.
LG, Helmut
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erasing the cache solved the problem. thanks helmut!
Mine still not having it it's saying tampered and unlocked any ideas
Flash this
Then flash it from cmd with
Code:
fastboot flash recovery CWM_Touch_6.0.2.8_M7.img
Code:
fastboot erase cache
If there are still problems, rename CWM_Touch_6.0.2.8_M7.img to "recovery.img" and use the command "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img"
LG, Helmut
Still nothing going to unroot and try again what's the best way to root cause the one I used is crap a link would be great thanks
jaythenut said:
Still nothing going to unroot and try again what's the best way to root cause the one I used is crap a link would be great thanks
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When you flash the recovery.img, was it successful and did you wipe the cache afterward?
Are you able to enter the bootloader then select Recovery, does it try to enter recovery then reboots?
ichi2k said:
When you flash the recovery.img, was it successful and did you wipe the cache afterward?
Are you able to enter the bootloader then select Recovery, does it try to enter recovery then reboots?
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Trys to go into recovery but just restarts i can't get into recovery at all
I get the screen saying unlocked and fast boot and so on you know the one with all the coloured text but won't do anything else
Try flashing a different recovery to the one you have installed.
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I seem to be having the exact same problem. Really starting to annoy me, I need to root my phone already haha!
Did you end up getting it to work?
Cheers!
same problem here....tried alle the recommended recoveries, but none worked for me.
When i flashed recovery it says all succeded, then i try to get into recovery, but it still reboots, htc logo appears, than for about 4-5 seconds the screen stays black and then there comes the t-mobile carrier logo and boot sound :/
neothechosenone said:
same problem here....tried alle the recommended recoveries, but none worked for me.
When i flashed recovery it says all succeded, then i try to get into recovery, but it still reboots, htc logo appears, than for about 4-5 seconds the screen stays black and then there comes the t-mobile carrier logo and boot sound :/
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try using my android everything tool to reflash the recovery, if cwm doesnt work, then twrp might!
the tool is in my signature
ricky310711 said:
try using my android everything tool to reflash the recovery, if cwm doesnt work, then twrp might!
the tool is in my signature
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yeah wow...but what is the difference between entering those commands manually in terminal or using your programm?
same problem with swiss HTC One
ricky310711 said:
try using my android everything tool to reflash the recovery, if cwm doesnt work, then twrp might!
the tool is in my signature
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according to the TWRP thread, it doesn't seem to be supported yet
I've got the same problem with the non working recovery. I now tried the CWM Touch AND Classic Recovery v6.0.3.0.
I tried to flash them with the All in One Tool by Hasoon 2000 and also manually with CMD commands (fastboot flash recovery & afterwards fastboot erase cache). It always said flash successful, but it's not able to boot into recovery.
I've got a Swiss HTC One Branded by Swisscom (which seems to use a vodafone CID: VODAP110).
My Build Number is 1.28.161.7 CL162357 release-keys
may that cause the problem?
I somehow got it to work. I didn't make any changes (that I can remember) but I tried it the next day again, booting into recovery with the HTC One (M7) All-In-One Toolkit V1.0, and it just worked!
Hopefully you guys can get it to work somehow too!
HA! I finally got it.
Just don't try to flash recovery as recovery, flash it as a boot img. CWM touch and TWRP was NOT working for me, but normal CWM does.
But it seems to be some issues with ADB, so please wait until i got my Guide ready
neothechosenone said:
HA! I finally got it.
Just don't try to flash recovery as recovery, flash it as a boot img. CWM touch and TWRP was NOT working for me, but normal CWM does.
But it seems to be some issues with ADB, so please wait until i got my Guide ready
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just to be sure:
you used "fastboot flash boot recovery-clockwork-6.0.3.0-m7.img" and it worked?
I don't want to mess up my phone, because I can't backup my current boot.img...
im a HTC one user. Currently on a formatted sd card. that is, no android rom or software. All I have right now on my phone is an unlocked bootloader 1.54
CWM Recovery Touch v6.0.3.6
I am familiar with pushing roms from mac through adb commands on the sd card. learnt that when i bricked it last time. this time, i cant understand the problem. Umm.. I updated my ARHD rom to 4.3 stock google one from 4.2.2 sense based roms. After that, i remember, going through several roor related issues. So i tried switching roms. i tried flashing various roms but i couldnt get any of em to work. i tried flashing roms after wiping cache and everything recommended, but every rom got stuck on reboot. except the nandroid backup. nandroid backup worked fine. so i tried formatting the sd card as well and flashing a rom after pushng it by adb commands. i think i have problems with my root access. i tried flashing cwm recovery all over again through fastboot, but it still boots up randomly. and im still stuck on the google splashup screen. it keeps rebooting and getting stuck on the splashup screen and doesnt get past that to the htc reboot screen. I dont know what to do. splash up screen doesnt let me access adb commands. and i think i have improper root access as whenever i try to reboot from cwm recovery, it warns me about the su binary and then gets stuck stuck in a loop again.
please help me guys?
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ayeyokp said:
im a HTC one user. Currently on a formatted sd card. that is, no android rom or software. All I have right now on my phone is an unlocked bootloader 1.54
CWM Recovery Touch v6.0.3.6
I am familiar with pushing roms from mac through adb commands on the sd card. learnt that when i bricked it last time. this time, i cant understand the problem. Umm.. I updated my ARHD rom to 4.3 stock google one from 4.2.2 sense based roms. After that, i remember, going through several roor related issues. So i tried switching roms. i tried flashing various roms but i couldnt get any of em to work. i tried flashing roms after wiping cache and everything recommended, but every rom got stuck on reboot. except the nandroid backup. nandroid backup worked fine. so i tried formatting the sd card as well and flashing a rom after pushng it by adb commands. i think i have problems with my root access. i tried flashing cwm recovery all over again through fastboot, but it still boots up randomly. and im still stuck on the google splashup screen. it keeps rebooting and getting stuck on the splashup screen and doesnt get past that to the htc reboot screen. I dont know what to do. splash up screen doesnt let me access adb commands. and i think i have improper root access as whenever i try to reboot from cwm recovery, it warns me about the su binary and then gets stuck stuck in a loop again.
please help me guys?
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Flash stock recovery, then run it to flash stock.
ayeyokp said:
im a HTC one user. Currently on Renoir atted sd card. that is, no android rom or software. All I have right now on my phone is an unlocked bootloader 1.54
CWM Recovery Touch v6.0.3.6
I am familiar with pushing roms from mac through adb commands on the sd card. learnt that when i bricked it last time. this time, i cant understand the problem. Umm.. I updated my ARHD rom to 4.3 stock google one from 4.2.2 sense based roms. After that, i remember, going through several roor related issues. So i tried switching roms. i tried flashing various roms but i couldnt get any of em to work. i tried flashing roms after wiping cache and everything recommended, but every rom got stuck on reboot. except the nandroid backup. nandroid backup worked fine. so i tried formatting the sd card as well and flashing a rom after pushng it by adb commands. i think i have problems with my root access. i tried flashing cwm recovery all over again through fastboot, but it still boots up randomly. and im still stuck on the google splashup screen. it keeps rebooting and getting stuck on the splashup screen and doesnt get past that to the htc reboot screen. I dont know what to do. splash up screen doesnt let me access adb commands. and i think i have improper root access as whenever i try to reboot from cwm recovery, it warns me about the su binary and then gets stuck stuck in a loop again.
please help me guys?
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If you are unlocked but still S-ON...use revone to make it S-OFF
Than:
1) hold power button until the phone force reboots and in the meantime press vol - button to get into bootloader
2) now go to fastboot and plug the phone to the pc
3) through command line "fastboot writecid 11111111"
4) reboot bootloader
5) now you have supercid, flash any RUU and start using again your HTC one
I think it should work, sorry for my bad english
OsarcotL said:
If you are unlocked but still S-ON...use revone to make it S-OFF
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He's on 1.54, he can't go s-off.
OsarcotL said:
If you are unlocked but still S-ON...use revone to make it S-OFF
Than:
1) hold power button until the phone force reboots and in the meantime press vol - button to get into bootloader
2) now go to fastboot and plug the phone to the pc
3) through command line "fastboot writecid 11111111"
4) reboot bootloader
5) now you have supercid, flash any RUU and start using again your HTC one
I think it should work, sorry for my bad english
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i have a unlocked bootloader. and i have a s-off too! i achieved s-off through revone only!
OsarcotL said:
If you are unlocked but still S-ON...use revone to make it S-OFF
Than:
1) hold power button until the phone force reboots and in the meantime press vol - button to get into bootloader
2) now go to fastboot and plug the phone to the pc
3) through command line "fastboot writecid 11111111"
4) reboot bootloader
5) now you have supercid, flash any RUU and start using again your HTC one
I think it should work, sorry for my bad english
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i did some research on xda again before flashing the RUU !! I just wanted to know if i can flash any RUU or should i look for my area's RUU, that is, asia or worldwide one. and i have s-off, HBOOT-1.54, and i have superCID too! already! should i go ahead with flashing the RUU? some threads stated that i cant do it on 1.54?
ayeyokp said:
i did some research on xda again before flashing the RUU !! I just wanted to know if i can flash any RUU or should i look for my area's RUU, that is, asia or worldwide one. and i have s-off, HBOOT-1.54, and i have superCID too! already! should i go ahead with flashing the RUU? some threads stated that i cant do it on 1.54?
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i know that with supercid you can flash any RUU beacuse it bypasses the normal country control during the istallation of the program...
now, i don't know if you cant flash anything with the 1.54 hboot, but i dont think so. according to me, you can try to flash and in the worst case the istallation wont start...but obviously is your phone and your decisone, just as it is your responsability
ayeyokp said:
i did some research on xda again before flashing the RUU !! I just wanted to know if i can flash any RUU or should i look for my area's RUU, that is, asia or worldwide one. and i have s-off, HBOOT-1.54, and i have superCID too! already! should i go ahead with flashing the RUU? some threads stated that i cant do it on 1.54?
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Since you're S-Off and SuperCID you can flash any RUU, so just go ahead and you won't loose S-Off either.
The 1.54 restrictions only apply if you're not S-Off, because S-On won't allow you to downgrade. Since you're S-Off it will allow the RUU downgrade.
ayeyokp said:
i did some research on xda again before flashing the RUU !! I just wanted to know if i can flash any RUU or should i look for my area's RUU, that is, asia or worldwide one. and i have s-off, HBOOT-1.54, and i have superCID too! already! should i go ahead with flashing the RUU? some threads stated that i cant do it on 1.54?
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Being s-off means you can flash anything, even stuff not for this phone. So be careful.
Ruu.exe for Asia
http://www.androidruu.com/getdownlo...50.13_10.33.1150.01_release_311678_signed.exe
Or Europe
http://www.androidruu.com/getdownlo...31.27_10.31.1131.05_release_310878_signed.exe
Download the Ruu of your choice to your pc.
Connect phone via usb2 to pc with phone in fastboot usb mode
Run ruu you downloaded , answer questions as appropriate
Approximately ten minutes to have stock Rom and stock recovery
Will retain s off . Can accept ota updates without losing s off
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Hi all.
I tried to flash my HTC one from recovery (twrp) after doing a factory reset within twrp. (I thought at the time a had stock recovery, I didn't. I had twrp.
Now my phone won't boot. Gets stuck on splash screen. If i enter the bootloader (which works no problem) and choose recovery, it starts recovery, pops up with twrp splash screen for second, then reboots to frozen htc splash screen.
Fastboot is working.
I've tried clearing the cache using fastboot. samething
I've tried flashing other recoveries,. nothing samething. (others in different predicaments have been able to do this successfully)
I've been reading that returning back to stock using RUU.zip method is the only way to go.
I want to try that, but before I do, I must make sure I understand it correctly and I've done all I can.
Relock the bootloader? Can I unlock it again?
Find a RUU.Zip that matches my OS version
Flash using fastboot.
I've been looking through HTC1GURU at his collection of ruu.zip but can't find anything that really matches my OS.
Any suggestions and advice will be most welcome.
Thanks in advance
Phone info.....
my Original CID was....orang001
profixit said:
Hi all.
I tried to flash my HTC one from recovery (twrp) after doing a factory reset within twrp. (I thought at the time a had stock recovery, I didn't. I had twrp.
Now my phone won't boot. Gets stuck on splash screen. If i enter the bootloader (which works no problem) and choose recovery, it starts recovery, pops up with twrp splash screen for second, then reboots to frozen htc splash screen.
Fastboot is working.
I've tried clearing the cache using fastboot. samething
I've tried flashing other recoveries,. nothing samething. (others in different predicaments have been able to do this successfully)
I've been reading that returning back to stock using RUU.zip method is the only way to go.
I want to try that, but before I do, I must make sure I understand it correctly and I've done all I can.
Relock the bootloader? Can I unlock it again?
Find a RUU.Zip that matches my OS version
Flash using fastboot.
I've been looking through HTC1GURU at his collection of ruu.zip but can't find anything that really matches my OS.
Any suggestions and advice will be most welcome.
Thanks in advance
Phone info.....
my Original CID was....orang001
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There isn't any ruu for orange (.61 base) only a nandroid backup which require a working recovery to be flashed. if you don't really care about staying with the orange sw, you could simply restore your phone to international EU version (.401 base). You already have s-off and the proper mid, so it will only require to downgrade hboot to 1.44, change cid to HTC__001 and run the 1.29.401 ruu.exe. you can use this guide
Thanks for the quick reply and the guide.
I don't care about orange sw. I'll do some reading. I do have a nandroid backup. No good to me, unless I get recovery working.
Not too confident about downgrading the Hboot, but i'll read and read.
profixit said:
Thanks for the quick reply and the guide.
I don't care about orange sw. I'll do some reading. I do have a nandroid backup. No good to me, unless I get recovery working.
Not too confident about downgrading the Hboot, but i'll read and read.
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downgrading hboot is pretty easy
just follow the steps under ''If you’re on hboot which is above 1.44'' from nkk71's guide
then change cid
then run ruu.exe
but do not use a win 8.1 computer (compatibility issue with hboot 1.44)
Thanks for that last bit, what about Win8.
I've spotted the steps that apply to me, just playing them out in my head.
Out of curiosity after a downgrade the HBoot, will it be locked and s-on?
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Thanks for that last bit, what about Win8.
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windows 8.0 should be fine, but definitively not 8.1
alray said:
There isn't any ruu for orange (.61 base) only a nandroid backup which require a working recovery to be flashed. if you don't really care about staying with the orange sw, you could simply restore your phone to international EU version (.401 base). You already have s-off and the proper mid, so it will only require to downgrade hboot to 1.44, change cid to HTC__001 and run the 1.29.401 ruu.exe. you can use this guide
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I noticed that particular 1.29.401 ruu exe has a different model ID, gonna course problems?
profixit said:
I noticed that particular 1.29.401 ruu exe has a different model ID, gonna course problems?
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sry my bad
use this one: http://www.htc1guru.com/dld/ruu_m7_ul_jb_50_htc_europe_1-28-401-7_radio_4a-13-3231-27_10-31-1131-05_release_310878_signed-exe/
1.28.401
No worries, Thanks.
Can you try fastboot erase cache from fastboot menu and re enter recovery?
Tried that, thanks
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OK, a little lucky positive progress.
I managed to flash clockworkMod recovery, don't ask me how, maybe erasing the cache lots of times did it, i'm sure it was a recovery I had already tried. I checked my download list and confirmed I did download it., so i would of tried to flash it two days ago. Funny.
Still stuck on splash screen, but can boot into recovery. (clockworkmod)
Please, what is the best way to proceed, I'm thinking nandroid backup, but like I said, I couldn't care less about orange. I would love to put Mike1986 stock rom 4.3 or 4.4
I'm unable or don't know how to get folders or files on the phone's internal SD card, because it doesn't boot up a rom any more. Y-cable?
I'm concerned with all the "can't" at the bottom of recovery screen.
I have an AT&T HTC One that was converted a Developer Edition, so it is S-OFF and has an unlocked bootloader, otherwise it is running completely stock non-rooted Lollipop firmware. I want to flash a custom recovery, but the safer side of my mind always tests it by doing "fastboot boot recovery.img" first before flashing it. The problem is on this phone it will load, I can see the green bar on the side of the Hboot screen go up, and fastboot says it sent the file successfully, but it just locks up and does nothing, I have to long-press power for 15 seconds or so to get it to shutdown to get it to respond again.
I have tried several versions of TWRP from here: http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/m7 and all have the same results. I am very familiar with using fastboot and adb, so I don't think I am doing anything wrong, but I am scared to flash the recovery image if I can't boot it.
Any ideas?
acejavelin said:
I have an AT&T HTC One that was converted a Developer Edition, so it is S-OFF and has an unlocked bootloader, otherwise it is running completely stock non-rooted Lollipop firmware. I want to flash a custom recovery, but the safer side of my mind always tests it by doing "fastboot boot recovery.img" first before flashing it. The problem is on this phone it will load, I can see the green bar on the side of the Hboot screen go up, and fastboot says it sent the file successfully, but it just locks up and does nothing, I have to long-press power for 15 seconds or so to get it to shutdown to get it to respond again.
I have tried several versions of TWRP from here: http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/m7 and all have the same results. I am very familiar with using fastboot and adb, so I don't think I am doing anything wrong, but I am scared to flash the recovery image if I can't boot it.
Any ideas?
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Only hboot 1.44 will boot recovery .. all the others need to be flashed
TWRP 2.6.3.3 is the most stable
TWRP 2.8.4.0 is what I use with no problems
clsA said:
Only hboot 1.44 will boot recovery .. all the others need to be flashed
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OK, that makes sense then... I am on 1.61 I think, and when I got it it was on 1.5 something.
Seems odd that being S-off and unlocked prevents fastboot booting to occur... wonder why?
acejavelin said:
OK, that makes sense then... I am on 1.61 I think, and when I got it it was on 1.5 something.
Seems odd that being S-off and unlocked prevents fastboot booting to occur... wonder why?
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it was patched in the hboot to not allow it
clsA said:
it was patched in the hboot to not allow it
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I guess I can see why they would do that, sort of, not that I agree... On my old HTC Rezound you could boot recovery and backup, wipe caches, etc, as long as you didn't write to boot/system/etc, without triggering the TAMPERED flag, you had to flash recovery or write to a system partition in order to set that flag. Oh well, Ill flash it up soon and play with it. I am actually kind of liking the stock lollipop Sense ROM, might just leave it like that for a bit though. Just came back from the range and had a little time before work so I was playing with it and it kind of frustrated me.
Thanks for your help and info.