LG G3 to Note 4 - T-Mobile Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all,
Thinking about taking advantage of my available jump upgrade and going to the Note 4. The biggest thing that is making me want to do that is the oversharpening effect that is present on the G3. For whatever reason, LG decided to artificially sharpen their screen and it makes the quality of things like text and icons look terrible because of a halo effect that is generated. Has anyone that currently has a G3 gotten a chance to compare the devices? If so, does Samsung have anything similar happening on their screen? I would go to Best Buy myself and look, but there aren't any on display at the one local to me.

chrisjm00 said:
Hi all,
Thinking about taking advantage of my available jump upgrade and going to the Note 4. The biggest thing that is making me want to do that is the oversharpening effect that is present on the G3. For whatever reason, LG decided to artificially sharpen their screen and it makes the quality of things like text and icons look terrible because of a halo effect that is generated. Has anyone that currently has a G3 gotten a chance to compare the devices? If so, does Samsung have anything similar happening on their screen? I would go to Best Buy myself and look, but there aren't any on display at the one local to me.
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I wish I remembered the source, but I read somewhere that Samsung did NOT do any over sharpening. I distantly remember them comparing it to the G3 and saying it was far better. From what I could tell at Best buy (their G3 was just a dummy, but the note 4 was working) the screen was fantastic. Easily the best I've ever seen.

aooga said:
I wish I remembered the source, but I read somewhere that Samsung did NOT do any over sharpening. I distantly remember them comparing it to the G3 and saying it was far better. From what I could tell at Best buy (their G3 was just a dummy, but the note 4 was working) the screen was fantastic. Easily the best I've ever seen.
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Awesome. That is my biggest gripe with the LG G3. 75% of the time the text looks awful because LG decided to go gimmicky and ruin the screen. Looks like I know what I'll be doing on the 17th. My ETF reimbursement should be here by then so I'll just use my Jump.

I own a G3 and went to a best buy today and played with the Note 4. To me i like the G3 screen better the phones has the same resolution Note is bigger which means less pixels per inch but both screens are great. I was suprised how nice the shape of the Note 4 is doesnt feel bulky or to big kindve like the Note 3 did at first to me.

I believe I saw some hacks that fix the oversharpening. So if that's the only reason, you might want to do some googling to see if it saves you some money.
I want to switch because G3 overheats when using GPS an charging at the same time. Just waiting to see if there are any major issues with Note 4 and when root and accessories (Qi cover) become available.

railshot said:
I believe I saw some hacks that fix the oversharpening. So if that's the only reason, you might want to do some googling to see if it saves you some money.
I want to switch because G3 overheats when using GPS an charging at the same time. Just waiting to see if there are any major issues with Note 4 and when root and accessories (Qi cover) become available.
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Hi,
Would love to know where you came across the hacks. I've googled but no real joy. There is one to disable hardware overlay and increase resolution by one but it did not work for me.
Sharpening is the only gripe I have. I absolutely hate it, there's no reason for it, and LG will not answer my mails on the issue. The min brightness on the G3 is too high compared to other phones so apps like LUX only highlight the sharpening.
I have no over heating on GPS while charging though.

Literally can not wait to dump the G3. I'm on my second one. I don't think I've ever owned a device I hated more. Love the camera though. Note 4 can not come fast enough. One of my favorite devices ironically was the G2. Go figure.

Im moving on from the lg g3 too for no other reason than ive had notes before and imo its the best phone samesung makes.
SkyDragon G3

Lg g3 sucks. Plain and simple. Note 4 hurry up
g3 soon to be NOTE 4

Coming from the g3 im thinking about jumping ship myself. The keyboards suck and the phone just aint that popular among devs. Not sure if i should go with note 4 or wait for the nexus 6?

Jabawockee said:
Coming from the g3 im thinking about jumping ship myself. The keyboards suck and the phone just aint that popular among devs. Not sure if i should go with note 4 or wait for the nexus 6?
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Nexus release date and full specs to be released this Friday the 17th
g3 soon to be NOTE 4

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Nexus release date and full specs to be released this Friday the 17th
g3 soon to be NOTE 4
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You think the note 4 will be better than nexus? I never had a moto before and dont know many people that do.

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You think the note 4 will be better than nexus? I never had a moto before and dont know many people that do.
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OK well better not sure I would call it that. Never had good luck with droids but this is nexus so it a different story. They have a lot of devs. If the note 4 devs come together like the post says they will this note will be epic.
g3 soon to be NOTE 4

I too am in the box of deciding between the G3 and the note 4. I LOVE this G2. No complaints at all with it. But oddly enough my opening questions about the note are..
-does the rooted version include a knock on/off feature?
-is there a notification dropdown quick key like the one used on the g2?

Had the Note 4 since Monday last week, from the LG G3. So happy. Can't say enough good things.

I had lg g2 and lg g3 now note 4 I believe lg g2 to me qorked better than lg g3 for me battery drained faster only had like 2 and a half on screen time and phone died wifi kept cutting out on same place note 4 has service so for me note 4 is great love it

As you can see below I've had a lot of Samsung phones. Never had a problem with any of them even after flashing ROM's, Kernels and radios. My note 3 went for a ride in the washer back in July and ruined it. So I replaced it with a LG G3 and really love the phone. No over heating or lag like others have complained about. No yellowish or blueish screen. Knock on is great, camera is great, so I had no intentions on buying the Note 4. Today I went to best buy to get a pair of Bose QC25 headphones and just happen to walk by the Samsung kiosk and there was a working Note 4. So I picked it up and played with it a minute and right of the bat I realized that I missed having an AMOLED screen. Before I left Best Buy I called 6 T-Mobile stores here in the Tampa area and not a 1 had the Note 4 in stock. So I came home and ordered one online. After I checked out I got the back ordered message So i guess I'll be a Note user again whenever it arrives. Said 10/30, so we'll see. Glad to see there's root available already.

There is a few minor software glitches but no show stoppers. Note 4 is an excellent device. I almost had my m8 paid for so I bought a Sim adapter and switch between the m8 and note 4. M8 is crazy butterly smooth and fast , the note 4 a little slower but is not lacking in any thing and will be on top in its class with updates for at least a bit. LG g3 is a decent device as well but the note 4 in my opinion takes the cake.

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Anyone coming from G3?

I am debating going for the nexus 6 or the G3. Normally I would be all over the nexus but with the recent unlocking of the ATT version of the G3 I a now torn. Has anyone left the G3 for the nexus, and can you tell me why you left? How did they each compare : screen, camera, quickness?
Probably a little premature with the question since the first people are just getting the Nexu 6 delivered today.
pclaunch said:
I am debating going for the nexus 6 or the G3. Normally I would be all over the nexus but with the recent unlocking of the ATT version of the G3 I a now torn. Has anyone left the G3 for the nexus, and can you tell me why you left? How did they each compare : screen, camera, quickness?
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I'm coming from an OPO and G3, I'm not getting rid of either phone though lol
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Probably a little premature with the question since the first people are just getting the Nexu 6 delivered today.
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Just wanted to get it out there early. See if any one wanted to chime in on why they are leaving the G3 or had any info that would be helpful.
I have the G3 and can't decide what to do. This years round of phones was difficult.. they all had some kind of flaws. The only real flaw of my G3 is the lag. I have it pretty customized at this point and have gotten it to a very minimal amount. Standby time is awesome.. SOT sucks. I wish the screen temp wasn't quite so cold, and the over sharpening does get annoying to look at. Then again, knock code, IR blaster, removable battery and sd card, laser auto focus camera... ugh, such troubling first world problems.
pclaunch said:
I am debating going for the nexus 6 or the G3. Normally I would be all over the nexus but with the recent unlocking of the ATT version of the G3 I a now torn. Has anyone left the G3 for the nexus, and can you tell me why you left? How did they each compare : screen, camera, quickness?
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I have both and in keeping both. I love my G3 and its fantastic camera. Both phones serve s different purpose for me but the G3 camera focuses faster than the Nexus r due to it's laser. I just got my Nexus so I can't fat to much else but I'll update you when I get more of a feel for it. It's a big phone but result manageable with my average sized hands. The screen isn't as bright as the G3 but it's easier to read on the sun for me. The Nexus also feels more solid to me and I love the size.
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I have both and in keeping both. I love my G3 and its fantastic camera. Both phones serve s different purpose for me but the G3 camera focuses faster than the Nexus r due to it's laser. I just got my Nexus so I can't fat to much else but I'll update you when I get more of a feel for it. It's a big phone but result manageable with my average sized hands. The screen isn't as bright as the G3 but it's easier to read on the sun for me. The Nexus also feels more solid to me and I love the size.
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Cant wait to start to hear some real world experiences with the nexus!
theinternot said:
I have the G3 and can't decide what to do. This years round of phones was difficult.. they all had some kind of flaws. The only real flaw of my G3 is the lag. I have it pretty customized at this point and have gotten it to a very minimal amount. Standby time is awesome.. SOT sucks. I wish the screen temp wasn't quite so cold, and the over sharpening does get annoying to look at. Then again, knock code, IR blaster, removable battery and sd card, laser auto focus camera... ugh, such troubling first world problems.
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I think I am leaning toward the Nexus just based on specs alone. The 805 paired with 3gb and 420 gpu are good enough to last for a couple of years I think. Coupled with the updates and I hope it will be a solid device. Just want to make sure. $700 is a big chunk of change to drop n a device and not be satisfied.
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I think I am leaning toward the Nexus just based on specs alone. The 805 paired with 3gb and 420 gpu are good enough to last for a couple of years I think. Coupled with the updates and I hope it will be a solid device. Just want to make sure. $700 is a big chunk of change to drop n a device and not be satisfied.
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I had the G3 Cat 6 (SD805 model) and the regular SD801 G3. I sold the cat 6 one and got the Nexus instead. I love both phones but each serves a different purpose for me the nexus will take some getting used to but I really enjoy it. I don't think I could choose just one right now but the Nexus is faster than my cat 6 G3 so it's worth it to me. It also makes my regular G3 look slow. I've had a G3 since launch back in May (3 models total) and I wouldn't sell my last one because I like it too much. The nexus is great its a solid phone with a nice screen and good battery and I will be using this as my DD for now. I can't wait to get TWRP and custom ROMs because that's why I have the Nexus. I'm probably rambling on but that's just because I'm excited about using my Nexus 6( I'm typing this on it)
ill be leaving my g3 in the dust come wednesday. the battery life sucks really bad with the snap 801. i cant even tell you my Sot because i had to charge my phone twice today.
Lately ive had issues with the g3 where ill double tap to wake and/ or press the unlock button and it wont respond.
I also told myself when i got my nexus 5 that i would never get another carrier branded phone.
Double two to wake doesnt work on my nexus 6 but it does work on my nexus 9. I miss tapping to wake but both phones are still great.
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I had the G3 Cat 6 (SD805 model) and the regular SD801 G3. I sold the cat 6 one and got the Nexus instead. I love both phones but each serves a different purpose for me the nexus will take some getting used to but I really enjoy it. I don't think I could choose just one right now but the Nexus is faster than my cat 6 G3 so it's worth it to me. It also makes my regular G3 look slow. I've had a G3 since launch back in May (3 models total) and I wouldn't sell my last one because I like it too much. The nexus is great its a solid phone with a nice screen and good battery and I will be using this as my DD for now. I can't wait to get TWRP and custom ROMs because that's why I have the Nexus. I'm probably rambling on but that's just because I'm excited about using my Nexus 6( I'm typing this on it)
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No please continue rambling.
I've grown to hate my g3. The battery seems good to me. The screen and camera r great but it just lags way too much, the screen always turns back on after using the button to lock it. I've also had problems with data where I have to turn it off and back on to get it to work at an acceptable speed. Now the other day I noticed it has the famous crack at the bottom mic.
Motorola nexus has always been my dream phone and while I will miss a few features of LG I actually like and the ir blaster which I use all the time, I won't look back. My last nexus I was very happy with for 2 years and I think this will be a great phone. Can't beat Motorola build quality.
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I've sold My lg g3 for The Nexus 6 it will be my first Nexus device. I loved everything about the lg g3 I brought it day one and didnt have any problems with it. I've been waiting on Motorola to make a Nexus phone. I will miss knock code,the laster auto focus,ir blaster,the way they had the power buttons and volume buttons. Also for the sd card but I brought a WD wifi drive for that problem.
This benchmark is pretty good considering my phone was warm and charging when I tested it.
I'm coming from the G3. I like the 3 and think it's a great phone though. It has started to lag a little bit, but I'm running a lot of modules on it and those may be the cause.
The only real thing that I never liked about it was the colors. Both colors suck imo. The blue N6 sucks for the color too from what I've seen. So it's like an even trade.
The main reason I'm leaving it is because I'm on Jump and the N6 has a few features I want.
I'm also coming from the G3. I've had a great experience with the G3. I originally came from the G2 and the G3 was a great upgrade. I'm averaging about 5hrs SOT on the G3 and that's with constantly playing Clash of Clans. So I'm pretty happy with it so far. I'm running Darkwulfs Beta 2 BTW. It was an impulse buy while I was waiting for the Moto X and Nexus 6. But I have pre-ordered my N6 and can't wait to get it. Last year I was anticipating the N5 but jumped the gun impulsively on the G2. I did it again this year with the G3. Can't wait to have this behemoth any time this week. I just got my dad a Note 4 so I can't wait to compare the phones side by side along the G3.
SamsungGalaxyStig said:
I'm also coming from the G3. I've had a great experience with the G3. I originally came from the G2 and the G3 was a great upgrade. I'm averaging about 5hrs SOT on the G3 and that's with constantly playing Clash of Clans. So I'm pretty happy with it so far. I'm running Darkwulfs Beta 2 BTW. It was an impulse buy while I was waiting for the Moto X and Nexus 6. But I have pre-ordered my N6 and can't wait to get it. Last year I was anticipating the N5 but jumped the gun impulsively on the G2. I did it again this year with the G3. Can't wait to have this behemoth any time this week. I just got my dad a Note 4 so I can't wait to compare the phones side by side along the G3.
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The Nexus 6 camera isn't as good as my G3 but in happy with it. I just ever a decent camera app like LG's for the Nexus and then I'll be happy.
Pilz said:
The Nexus 6 camera isn't as good as my G3 but in happy with it. I just ever a decent camera app like LG's for the Nexus and then I'll be happy.
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I wonder if someone could port the moto x camera apk if and see if that could produce better pictures. I remember someone on the G2 forums ported the G2 Stock camera so it could be used on aosp. I used it on PA and CM and it worked well.
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I wonder if someone could port the moto x camera apk if and see if that could produce better pictures. I remember someone on the G2 forums ported the G2 Stock camera so it could be used on aosp. I used it on PA and CM and it worked well.
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I really want that because I hate the google camera. It won't install normally and there no root to yet so I can't move it manually to see of it will work.

Any Note3/Note4 people switch the N6? If so, reply within....

I am a long time Verizon customer, and after a horrible customer service issue yesterday......I am looking to switch to AT&T.
I've been on the Note 3 since October of 2013 and absolutely love the device. Since Vzw is so behind releasing devices, if I switch to AT&T I am open to two devices I am interested in.......the Note Edge and the N6. Anyone of you come from a Note to the N6, that has owned/used the N6 long enough to give me some feedback, pros/cons? I am reading a lot of negative when comparing the cameras......but am aware the N6 is vastly improved from previous. One thing I really am most concerned about is screen clarity. Just hoped for anyones direct feedback that came from a Note and is live with their N6.
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Screen clarity,colors, overall brilliance. Samsung has been superior IMO for the last few years. My Galaxy S Fascinate, my S3, now my N3......all in my opinion had the best appearance than any comparable phone on the market at the time of their release. It is one of the biggest deciding factors I've base my devices around for the last several years. I don't want to go backwards if the N6 is noticeably less.
No external memory slot. Even though I've had an issue with the last 3 Samsung devices involving the SD card, its still nice to have that storage available, especially when storing ROM's and backup data.
No removable battery. Again going back to flashing ROM's, I'm used to devices with removable batteries.....which is critical in some cases needing to do a battery pull. Perhaps you Nexus fans can reassure me this is a non-issue.....
TIA
LXative said:
I am a long time Verizon customer, and after a horrible customer service issue yesterday......I am looking to switch to AT&T.
I've been on the Note 3 since October of 2013 and absolutely love the device. Since Vzw is so behind releasing devices, if I switch to AT&T I am open to two devices I am interested in.......the Note Edge and the N6. Anyone of you come from a Note to the N6, that has owned/used the N6 long enough to give me some feedback, pros/cons? I am reading a lot of negative when comparing the cameras......but am aware the N6 is vastly improved from previous. One thing I really am most concerned about is screen clarity. Just hoped for anyones direct feedback that came from a Note and is live with their N6.
TIA
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I have the note 4 and gave it to my wife when the nexus came out. To be honest I regret it Note is way better display. Camera yes improved but Note is better then N6.
I had the Note 3 for a year. It was absolutely my favorite device I had owned yet. The Note series is great, one can't deny. I loved the large powerful device. I was so close to buying the Note 4, until I found out the Nexus 6 was coming with a 6" display. It was a no-brainer for me. I rarely ever used the spen so that wasn't a factor. I couldn't stand the idea of a rear facing speaker so the forward facing speakers on the N6 was a big plus. Power wise, well they are both power houses so no factor. Touchwiz vs pure Android, well for me pure Android was a big plus. Design of the N6 is very appealing to me. I don't have a preference, nor could I tell you the difference in the displays, They both look good to me. I can say from the Note 3 to the N6, the screen quality is at least as good. I have zero complaints with the camera. I mean it's a phone; if I want professional photos then I would use a camera. I guess in the end it's user preference but you asked for opinions/experiences so I thought I'd share mine. I don't regret nor even think about my decision to go with the N6. It's what I wanted.
Huge discussion here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/note-4-vs-nexus-6-t2906800
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I have the note 4 and gave it to my wife when the nexus came out. To be honest I regret it Note is way better display. Camera yes improved but Note is better then N6.
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Thanks.
b.huss2 said:
I had the Note 3 for a year. It was absolutely my favorite device I had owned yet. The Note series is great, one can't deny. I loved the large powerful device. I was so close to buying the Note 4, until I found out the Nexus 6 was coming with a 6" display. It was a no-brainer for me. I rarely ever used the spen so that wasn't a factor. I couldn't stand the idea of a rear facing speaker so the forward facing speakers on the N6 was a big plus. Power wise, well they are both power houses so no factor. Touchwiz vs pure Android, well for me pure Android was a big plus. Design of the N6 is very appealing to me. I don't have a preference, nor could I tell you the difference in the displays, They both look good to me. I can say from the Note 3 to the N6, the screen quality is at least as good. I have zero complaints with the camera. I mean it's a phone; if I want professional photos then I would use a camera. I guess in the end it's user preference but you asked for opinions/experiences so I thought I'd share mine. I don't regret nor even think about my decision to go with the N6. It's what I wanted.
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Good feedback. The first reply definitely was a pretty clear opinion, but I'm happy to see a counter for the N6 with yours. I'm definitely going to go hands-on in a store tonight, but for those of you who have the N6 I feel can give better feedback since you are more adapted already.
Getting ready to add two more concerns to my OP .........keep the replies coming. :good:
The N4 screen is brighter and cooler than the Nexus, but doesn't really offer any clarity benefit to me. It would be a better performer in direct sunlight though. I had both in hand for a couple weeks and in the end the Nexus was the right device for me. I prefer a stock android build and noticed many of the Samsung additions I either ignored or turned off. Your best bet is to think about the things that are important to you and then get some time in store with both to gain an understanding of how each devices handles those things. To me it came down to the fact that touchwiz just felt heavy (although it has come a very long way) and i wasn't really utilizing the S-pen the way i thought I would. I also like the ability to have access to factory images and the strong developer support within the Nexus community.
You cant go wrong with either though. I didn't dislike the Note, I just like the Nexus more
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Huge discussion here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/note-4-vs-nexus-6-t2906800
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A ton of info surely in there, but that was pre-release for both devs. Surely there are hands-on replies in the current end, but that is a lot of sifting. I'll keep browsing it in daytime if I can't get what info I am content with here though, thanks. :good:
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Thanks.
Good feedback. The first reply definitely was a pretty clear opinion, but I'm happy to see a counter for the N6 with yours. I'm definitely going to go hands-on in a store tonight, but for those of you who have the N6 I feel can give better feedback since you are more adapted already.
Getting ready to add two more concerns to my OP .........keep the replies coming. :good:
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I have no concern about the storage. I am on the cloud for years now. All my pic and music on the drive and good music. once I feel the storage are full which I never seen it I clear my storage.
Battery on the note 4 is better. You can get almost 5 to 5 and half hours SOT. On the other hand nexus will get about 4 hours SOT.
I haven't owned a Note, but I've played with a few. Most recently, I handled a Note Edge for a bit over the weekend. It is definitely a nice device. Did it have a bunch of features that made it a clear winner over the Nexus? No. The edge display, although a nice touch, felt rather gimmicky and overall not very useful. I also had problems with Touchwiz not responding properly to the stylus input. Maybe someone broke the stylus, but from what I've heard and seen about Touchwiz, my first impression was that it was bugging out. The rear-facing mono speaker sucks in comparison. Also I didn't notice anything special about the display.
In fact, I love the warmer color temperature of the Nexus 6. I'm surrounded by overly-cool LCD displays and fluorescent lighting in my office. The warmer colors of the Nexus 6 were a welcomed sight. Let's not forget that natural colors are actually warmer than your standard LCD display, and it's my opinion that the Nexus 6's display produces more true-to-life color than any of my LCDs, and the overly blue tint to Samsung devices.
There's no doubt that some may find the extra features of the Spen and Touchwiz interface a "better" experience, and some go ape**** over the changeable battery and SD slot, but are those few features worth the higher premium of a Samsung? No, not in my opinion.
I switched from Note 3 to Nexus 6. Enjoyed the Note 3 a lot, but there where some things I disliked a lot.
1) these capacitive buttons are horrible. When using mhl adapter with TV you have no buttons on TV. They take a lot of space. Display buttons extend the display when watching videos or looking at pictures.
2) touchwiz. great - these features like multi window. I used them twice because they really are cool, but never again.
3) I liked the spen a lot. But after switching to Evernote I simply stopped using it.
4) Samsung & updates. *shakehead* when Samsung releases 5.0 for Note 4, Google releases 5.1. Let's not talk about when update will come to Note 3 which is one year old. Yes - I know. There is a beta from India you can flash but if you NEED your phone, will you flash a beta? It is simply horrible, that a one year old device is not treated the same in regards of updates as the current flagship. Everybody who pays 700€ for his Note 4 today has to keep in mind, that his phone will be treated as "old" in just one year. And it is even worse with the updates for tablets.
the hardware Samsung makes is the best on the market, but I want to keep my phone longer then one year.
I have my Nexus 6 now and am quite happy with it.
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I bought the Note 4 at T-Mobile the day it came out and I returned it after 2 weeks.
At first, it was great. Loved all the S Pen features. But then, I started noticing lag and stuttering thanks to TouchWiz. I rooted and debloated it, but it still had lag that I wasn't comfortable with. Other people are saying they don't notice it, but I returned it and bought the N6 when it came out. And I haven't looked back.
I've had 2 of every note for my wife and I on at. If you absolutely need to flash and tinker go with the n6 its a great device. Otherwise I would stick with the note if you don't mind stock touchwiz. There is almost no Dev support on the 3 due to locked bootloaders and I don't think the 4 will be any better. All you can flash on the 3 is variants of stock and only with safe strap installed. Hashcode who developed safestrap no longer supports it so for the 4 there would need to be a new Dev working on things if that method will even work.
Tldr if you need to flash and mod go n6 if not go note 4. You have even less of a chance at Dev support on the edge. But they are all great devices!!
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The Note 3 is what I have had experience with as I have owned it since it came out last year. I haven't gotten the chance to play with the Note 4 but what I can say is that the Note series never disappoints.
As far as the carrier goes I really wouldn't recommend going with AT&T or Verizon because if you are looking to root your phone and flash roms it will be a hassle to do because of the locked bootloader. I recommend you go on the T-Mobile network instead.
I say the Nexus 6 and Note 4 are great devices they both have the same snapdragon 805 chip among other things so the difference would be whether you want touchwiz or not.
DON'T FORGET if you can afford it, T-Mobile unlocked devices will work on att so there is that option. Also Verizon offer developer versions of the notes that aren't locked but are full price up front.
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I had the note 3 and 4 on vzw, got the note 4 on release day and had it till I got my n6 3 weeks ago. I loved my note devices but I noticed some lag on them over time not bad by any means but more like hiccups. Always put on Nova launcher bc I hated touchwiz. Screen was brighter on note 4 but I don't mind the n6 screen. Camera at night isn't as good but in daylight the n6 focuses faster than the note 4. For what I like the n6 is the phone for me.
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I own a T Mobile Note 4 and using on AT&T network. It works great with no issues.
I ordered a Nexus 6 with Friday delivery so can't fairly compare yet.
A few Note 4 things.
1. FireKat custom rom has made all the difference. It is stock TW tweaked to perfection. No lag and battery last 5 to 6 hours of SOT.
2. Screen on Note 4 is incredible.
3. We did get CM12 on Note 4.
I had a Note 3 until may of this year when I got my G3 which I still have. The Nexus is leaps and bounds past the Note.
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I haven't owned a Note, but I've played with a few. Most recently, I handled a Note Edge for a bit over the weekend. It is definitely a nice device. Did it have a bunch of features that made it a clear winner over the Nexus? No. The edge display, although a nice touch, felt rather gimmicky and overall not very useful. I also had problems with Touchwiz not responding properly to the stylus input. Maybe someone broke the stylus, but from what I've heard and seen about Touchwiz, my first impression was that it was bugging out. The rear-facing mono speaker sucks in comparison. Also I didn't notice anything special about the display.
In fact, I love the warmer color temperature of the Nexus 6. I'm surrounded by overly-cool LCD displays and fluorescent lighting in my office. The warmer colors of the Nexus 6 were a welcomed sight. Let's not forget that natural colors are actually warmer than your standard LCD display, and it's my opinion that the Nexus 6's display produces more true-to-life color than any of my LCDs, and the overly blue tint to Samsung devices.
There's no doubt that some may find the extra features of the Spen and Touchwiz interface a "better" experience, and some go ape**** over the changeable battery and SD slot, but are those few features worth the higher premium of a Samsung? No, not in my opinion.
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The brilliance of the colors on the Galaxy phones is actually my preference. I am a hobby/amateur photographer, so I always have tons of my favorite pictures on my phone. Being you can actually control the tones/contrast settings.......that is all user interface, your preference. I've never noticed any blue tinting to any of my last several Samsung devices, interesting to hear that from another perspective. Thanks for posting up your experience, these are the kinds of posts I am looking for. :good:
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I switched from Note 3 to Nexus 6. Enjoyed the Note 3 a lot, but there where some things I disliked a lot.
1) these capacitive buttons are horrible. When using mhl adapter with TV you have no buttons on TV. They take a lot of space. Display buttons extend the display when watching videos or looking at pictures.
2) touchwiz. great - these features like multi window. I used them twice because they really are cool, but never again.
3) I liked the spen a lot. But after switching to Evernote I simply stopped using it.
4) Samsung & updates. *shakehead* when Samsung releases 5.0 for Note 4, Google releases 5.1. Let's not talk about when update will come to Note 3 which is one year old. Yes - I know. There is a beta from India you can flash but if you NEED your phone, will you flash a beta? It is simply horrible, that a one year old device is not treated the same in regards of updates as the current flagship. Everybody who pays 700€ for his Note 4 today has to keep in mind, that his phone will be treated as "old" in just one year. And it is even worse with the updates for tablets.
the hardware Samsung makes is the best on the market, but I want to keep my phone longer then one year.
I have my Nexus 6 now and am quite happy with it.
Greetings,
Elmar
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Outstanding, this is a direct comparison for me.....since I'd be making the same change. And actually your 4 points directly relate to myself and my own preferences/experiences too. Thank you. :good:
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I bought the Note 4 at T-Mobile the day it came out and I returned it after 2 weeks.
At first, it was great. Loved all the S Pen features. But then, I started noticing lag and stuttering thanks to TouchWiz. I rooted and debloated it, but it still had lag that I wasn't comfortable with. Other people are saying they don't notice it, but I returned it and bought the N6 when it came out. And I haven't looked back.
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I've had a few hangups here and there, and started out swearing I'd remain stock/OTA only (like a lot of us on here do). After about 3-4 months, and the lack of updates (thanks Verizon), I rooted. Of course limited due to being locked down, but the experience even without AOSP based ROM's was much better than stock. And I've always used APEX Launcher to avoid TouchJizz. Glad to see the N6 answered your concerns though, definitely adds to the +++ side for me.
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I've had 2 of every note for my wife and I on at. If you absolutely need to flash and tinker go with the n6 its a great device. Otherwise I would stick with the note if you don't mind stock touchwiz. There is almost no Dev support on the 3 due to locked bootloaders and I don't think the 4 will be any better. All you can flash on the 3 is variants of stock and only with safe strap installed. Hashcode who developed safestrap no longer supports it so for the 4 there would need to be a new Dev working on things if that method will even work.
Tldr if you need to flash and mod go n6 if not go note 4. You have even less of a chance at Dev support on the edge. But they are all great devices!!
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I like exploring different ROM's for sure. I really can't understand why carriers lock their devices down and offer little or no different customizations. It'd be a different story if they would see what changes the dev's make (that we want) and give OTA options of the same. Even as simple as a toggle for flashlight.......
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The Note 3 is what I have had experience with as I have owned it since it came out last year. I haven't gotten the chance to play with the Note 4 but what I can say is that the Note series never disappoints.
As far as the carrier goes I really wouldn't recommend going with AT&T or Verizon because if you are looking to root your phone and flash roms it will be a hassle to do because of the locked bootloader. I recommend you go on the T-Mobile network instead.
I say the Nexus 6 and Note 4 are great devices they both have the same snapdragon 805 chip among other things so the difference would be whether you want touchwiz or not.
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I would be all over T-Mobile if they had service where I work. But T-Mobile has no data where I live OR work......so unfortunately it is not an option for me. I am limited to Verizon towers and AT&T towers only.
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DON'T FORGET if you can afford it, T-Mobile unlocked devices will work on att so there is that option. Also Verizon offer developer versions of the notes that aren't locked but are full price up front.
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If my own ignorance to this option of T-mob device compatibility on AT&T networks, I would have purchased my last device from them. Verizon has stuck it to me hard with my Note 3 and their customer service, and being I paid outright for this Note 3......its going to be hard for me to justify dropping that cheese on another device outright. Definitely will keep that in mind though, maybe even if I decide to shop Swappa. :good:
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I had the note 3 and 4 on vzw, got the note 4 on release day and had it till I got my n6 3 weeks ago. I loved my note devices but I noticed some lag on them over time not bad by any means but more like hiccups. Always put on Nova launcher bc I hated touchwiz. Screen was brighter on note 4 but I don't mind the n6 screen. Camera at night isn't as good but in daylight the n6 focuses faster than the note 4. For what I like the n6 is the phone for me.
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I own a T Mobile Note 4 and using on AT&T network. It works great with no issues.
I ordered a Nexus 6 with Friday delivery so can't fairly compare yet.
A few Note 4 things.
1. FireKat custom rom has made all the difference. It is stock TW tweaked to perfection. No lag and battery last 5 to 6 hours of SOT.
2. Screen on Note 4 is incredible.
3. We did get CM12 on Note 4.
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I should have bought the dev edition Note 3, but then again there is hardly any support on the Verizon end........so I'm actually glad I didn't. Still something to think about if I do shop Swappa.
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I had a Note 3 until may of this year when I got my G3 which I still have. The Nexus is leaps and bounds past the Note.
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Can you be specific as to what is so dramatic in the differences? If you have time, and don't mind? I'd love to hear what your experience has been. :good:
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Can you be specific as to what is so dramatic in the differences? If you have time, and don't mind? I'd love to hear what your experience has been. :good:
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The Note 3 was a good phone when I didn't know any better about Android when I bought it. The phone seemed fast compared to my S3 but it WS extremely limited in terms of modding which is what I hated. TW was always laggy for me (more noticeable when I used my Nexus 7 then used my Note 3). After a while it for extremely annoying to me that my Nexus 7 with its 1.7ghz process and 2gn or ram was faster than my 2.3ghz 3gb of ram Note 3. I was rooted running Nova launcher on it until I accidentally updated to kitkat. I lost root in the update and I decided that I would upgrade he phone when something better came along because the TW nonsense was not for me. I liked the dual window and the S pen was cool at first but then it became a gimmick. The physical home button started to click weird after 7 months and it was not ideal to use and felt primitive compared to the onscreen buttons of my Nexus 7 (2013)
I had mentioned modding earlier which is important to me especially with TW because there was a good amount of lag comparatively speaking. Others may have found the Note to EB fast, but have then use a Nexus or AOSP device and then use the Samsung. Its sad because it was nice despite its shortcomings. The camera focus was horrible in my Note, but when it did focus after much frustration it would take nice pictures. Now let's talk ergonomics, the Note is extremely boxy for a 5.7in phone. I like big phablets however the Note 3 was terrible to hold even with a minimal case. Then there was the camera which protrudes a good amount just like the S5, and Note 4 making a slim case a bad idea if you want to protect the camera lens.
My wife has the S5 and whenever I use it it's awful just like I recall my Note was. My wife used to love Samsung too, but she now likes the way Nexus devices are or any phones with on screen buttons and minimal bloat. (She's not s technology snob at all either) her phone lags and stutters even with the bloat disabled as much as possible. Back on topic with the Note 3 now, I decided that the physical buttons, non ergonomic design, bad camera focus, laggy software, slow updates, bloat galore and general lack of easy development/mods was too much. I then bought a G3 at the end of May last year and instantly loved it. LG's UI was nowhere near as heavy as Samsung's and the G3 became my favorite non Nexus devices. In fact I still use my G3 even thought I love my Nexus. I wasn't going to wait for the Nexus 6 or whatever I thought it would be called to come out because I was done with the Notes shortcomings. The best decision I ever made was to get rid of my Samsung phone. I like the Nexus and G3 and will get the G4 and Nexus phone next year unless LG screws up their nice design.
In the end it was more than one thing for me and I hopes this helps you. I don't hate Samsung, I just don't like their phones the way that I used to. I still have an awesome Samsung TV and LG TV in my house and a Samsung Ativ Book 9 Plus (i7 mode) but I won't but another Samsung phone the way they are now.
I had the Note 3 for several month and before that a Note 2 for a good while - both on Verizon. Having grown tired of Verizon locking down their devices and Samsung pressing on with Knox, I decided to move on from both ... grabbed a Nexus 6 with T-Mobile back in the beginning of December. I admit I wasn't sure if I could deviate from the Note as I grew accustom to the Note series and all the great things it has to offer - screen, camera, having the SPen, Multi Window, Pen Window, etc. But, as I started to think about it, I realized I almost never used the SPen and Multi Window/Pen Window were very rarely used as well. After almost 2 full weeks with the Nexus 6 I can say without a shadow of a doubt I do not miss my Note 3 AT ALL! About the only thing I miss is the battery life - the Nexus 6, in my use/experience, has not even come close to what I achieved with the Note 3! (I'm not really worried about this as I'm sure the kinks will be worked out by Google/Moto to get better results).
Comparison of the (in my opinion) major factors:
- Screen: Turning off Adaptive Brightness on the Nexus 6 makes a HUGE difference (and is a must IMO) and , in my most humble opinion, puts it on par with the Note 3 display. However, the Note 3 still wins this contest ... The N6 screen gets plenty bright and visibility outdoors hasn't been an issue, but overall I think the N3 has a slight edge. Also, the feel of the screen is different on the N6. The N6 glass seems "stickier" (for a lack of a better word) ... My fingers slid across the glass easier on the N3 and it's definitely better at managing finger prints!
- UI: Hands down goes to the N6!! Absolutely no comparison! While I'm not a TouchWiz hater (I actually think it compliments the Note series well) I was never a huge fan. Yes, it has some useful features, but a vast majority I found to be gimmicky and never used them. All they did was clutter the settings menu and app draw. And there is no denying TW lags ... now it was never significant in my experience, but definitely noticeable! Now, 5.0 on the Nexus 6 absolutely beautiful and straight out flies! Multitasking it so fluid that it makes up for Multi Window - switch between apps using the recent key (or whatever they're calling it in 5.0) is smooth with quick transitions. Google added nice features (ambient display, battery saver, priority notifications - to name a few) that are, well useful! Granted other OEMs have used similar features them in the past, but they're baked in very nice in 5.0 ... not intrusive and easy to ignore).
- Battery: As I stated above, I had better results from my Note 3. The N6 gets me through the day, but if I was a heavy user I'd find myself needing to charge mid day for sure
- Sound: Nexus 6 is better in every category! Dual front facing speakers!! Nuff said LOL! Headphone jack output is better and louder in-call volume.
Feel-in-hand/Build: While slightly taller,wider and heavier the Nexus 6, after a few days of use, feels better in hand. I admit, the additional width took some getting used to (the height wasn't an issue for me), even though it's only slight difference in width, it's definitely a difference you'll notice. But like any new device, it becomes a none-issue after a few days. The curved back on the N6 makes the feel-in-hand great, but certainly makes things annoying if you're trying to use the device while it's laying flat on a hard surface. Although the same could be said for the Note 3 and it's protruding rear camera (never did understand that design!)
The build on the Nexus 6 is stellar!! Just a solid piece of machinery LOL There's no give to this thing at all! The N3 always felts kinda cheap to me ... it'd creek a little bit when holding it in a certain spot, the plastic didn't feel premium and it developed hair-line cracks in the plastic outer band around the SPen although it was never dropped/abused.
Camera: (DISCLAIMER: I AM IN NO WAY A PHOTOGRAPHER ... I ENJOY TAKING PICTURES, BUT TRUTH BE TOLD I DON'T KNOW MAY ASS FROM LEFT FIELD!!!) I may be the only one to say this, but I was never a fan of the Note 3 camera (I still feel the Note 2 camera was superior). I always had a tough time getting decent shots. However, towards the end of my run with the device I turned off the image stabilization feature (I think that's what it was called) and had MUCH better success! The Nexus 6, IMO, takes really good photos. Like any smartphone camera, it does better in the right conditions. But, with HDR on, I am finding the pics to be more than ample for my needs.
Depending on your wants and needs, I don't think you can go wrong with either device. In the end it all comes down to personal preference. At this point in my life, I wanted the latest, pure, unskinned Android OS, fast updates and a root/hack friendly environment (with great developer support). If those aren't appealing to you, than the Note 4 is probably the next best choice. I say go play with both a few time at a local store before making a decision ....

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Hi, Note 4 team
*** For anyone considering or thinking of a Nexus 6 ***
I realized very recently that the Nexus 6 is just not the phone that everyone is hyping it up to be.
I've been a loyal and die-hard Nexus fan since the Galaxy Nexus but also have always liked Samsung phones - particularly the Note.
In December 2014 I bought a Note 4, unlocked it and used it for a month until I was offered a great deal on a Nexus 6. I knew I was going to get one or the other but for some reason the Nexus hype bit me. I unloaded my Note 4 within 2 days and got the Nexus 6 and the honeymoon period didn't last long at all. The phone is a spec beast but that's about all it's got going other than the obvious "first to update" thing. While Lollipop is a joy to use, I can wait until the official release is out for NA Note 4 variants. I really don't miss any part of it and as for my usage, it didn't offer much over Kit Kat.
The phone is awkward to hold. I'm only 5'7" and can comfortably hold and use the Note 4 whereas the Nexus 6 is slippery and strange. That extra little bit of size on the Nexus 6 really kills it for me. After only a month of using the Nexus 6, I had to sell it and go back to the trusty Note. The Nexus was hard to sell too because there are only a specific group of people who really want it and know what type of phone it is. I realize after my month away from the Note 4, I should have never gotten rid of it in the first place. Even within the 1 month with the Nexus, I couldn't handle the size and I had to resort to using a spare iPhone 5 I have lying around. It really was a pain.
I'm glad to be back with a Note 4 and it feels normal again.
tldr; Bought a Note 4. Used it for a month and sold it to get a Nexus 6. Used the Nexus 6 for a month and realized it sucked. Went back to Note 4.
so its the size which forced you to switch back?
I love how good the note 4 feels in my hands and it feels like a solid phone.
I've used notes since the note 2 and don't think I will buy a different type of phone unless Samsung really mess up the formula.
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so its the size which forced you to switch back?
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Size and software. With size it also was the shape of the phone. Rounded was nice and the dimple did help a bit but I didn't feel comfortable holding it and typing with one hand like I do with the Note. Also, I kind of felt that with the Note 2, you get the large screen with added features. Spec-for-spec, the two phones are nearly identical. Add in the S-Pen and some TW features and you have a more fully-featured, well rounded phone.
I also find the camera to be better on the Note 4 - camera is a huge point for me and I fell for the Nexus hype again just like I did on the Nexus 5. They touted that the Nexus 5 camera was top notch but once I got it, it was really sub-par. Same with the Nexus 6 - the focusing was very slow and AI was just not there (I'm used to fast-focusing as I use a Canon 5D Mark 2 with fast primes) and the Note 4 really picks it up when you turn off HDR. It's not iPhone speed but it's way better than the Nexus, hands down.
I had a Galaxy S5 in my hands which I decided against because I really like the size and build of the Note.
I have both as well & the N4 does feel more comfortable to use.
The getting the latest updates thing that sells the Nexus, is it really all that?
I had the N5 & it didn't get all that many updates, the M8 got just as many, if a little later.
If lollipop is anything to go by, maybe getting the update first isn't such a good thing. Pure Android is very nice I do agree & TW is somewhat ghastly but with Nova Launcher on it's fine. Google's launcher is pants too. I use Nova on my N6 also. That permanent Google search bar is stupid, as is the stock dpi.
I do like the N6 but the N4 is far more palatable & feels more luxury in the hand.
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I have both as well & the N4 does feel more comfortable to use.
The getting the latest updates thing that sells the Nexus, is it really all that?
I had the N5 & it didn't get all that many updates, the M8 got just as many, if a little later.
If lollipop is anything to go by, maybe getting the update first isn't such a good thing. Pure Android is very nice I do agree & TW is somewhat ghastly but with Nova Launcher on it's fine. Google's launcher is pants too. I use Nova on my N6 also. That permanent Google search bar is stupid, as is the stock dpi.
I do like the N6 but the N4 is far more palatable & feels more luxury in the hand.
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You're exactly right about Nova Launcher. I've been using Nova Prime for a long time (maybe since I got my S2) and it's well worth it. My favorite is having 7 small dock icons.
On Nexus 6 Bluetooth quality is very poor compared to other top smartphones. Note 4 has very good quality with Headset and Car Hi-Fi.
This is good to know as I've been tempted recently to switch to the Nexus 6 myself. What's stopped me so far is that the 32gb Nexus retails for the same price as the Note 4 in my country. Factor in the extra features you're getting on the Note 4 then the Nexus starts to look like much worse value for money. I'd go back to the OnePlus One over the Nexus 6 any day of the week. The OPO is a much more worthy successor to the Nexus 5 in my opinion as it represents what the Nexus always has in the past - value for money.
Actually the only reason I went from the OnePlus to the Note 4 was band 28 lte, but now that I'm here I am really ☺.
After 2 months of use my Note 4 (SM-N910F) on 4.4.4 KK (stock) from a Note 3 (SM-N9005) on 4.4.2 KK (stock)
Pros:
- Camera, a lot better in all scenarios, Focus, Low Light, detail, was a very big jump and probably because of OIS (main reason to upgarde from Note 3 for me)
- Display, some people say 1080p to QHD dont see diference, i see, its mucth brighter and crisp and beautiful
- Desing of the Note 4 with metal edges, feel in the hand, very good looking phone
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- Battery, read a lot about display energy consumpsion, all wrong the battery drains a lot everytime i am using the phonne, 4 hours max screen on time
- UI general lag, 2.7GHZ?! The UI its very laggy, sometimes 1 sec to do what you want, compare to iphone 5S for example its a shame
- Sound, and dont understand why a top 2014 Samsung device like Note 4 dont have stereo speakers, the speaker on the back its very bad
- Bluetooth, i have a Samsung Gear and with the Note 4 some metters away one from the other and i got disconnected massage on my Gear
Sound, agreed that stereo speakers are overdue but I prefer the speaker on the back over the on the bottom of my old note 3. (which i covered many times just holding the phone)
Bluetooth, my gear live never disconnects if within ten meters (30ft) of my phone.
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On Nexus 6 Bluetooth quality is very poor compared to other top smartphones. Note 4 has very good quality with Headset and Car Hi-Fi.
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I honestly didn't notice much difference in bluetooth quality. I stream through Google Play Music and bluetooth to a JBL Flip 2 and and Beats 2.0 Wireless and it sounds the same to me.
Oh another couple of things that were a minor annoyance that turned into huge ones...
The rounded back made the phone spin when it's on a table. This makes laying it on a table and using it impossible. It was especially annoying when I had an alarm set to wake me up in the morning, it would spin all over the damn place when I tried to snooze it.
Secondly, the power and volume buttons were way too close to each other. I'd always end up hitting the wrong button when I wanted to lock/unlock the phone or turn up the volume.
Again they were minor annoyances which I thought I'd be able to simply get over it and I didn't think it would really affect my usage like it did.
....and warranty!! OMFG you should see the stories on Reddit about Motorola's warranty. It's absolutely terrible and disgraceful.
If you weren't lucky enough to be able to get your Nexus 6 from the Play store and got it direct from Motorola or a carrier, you were pretty much screwed. People with white 64gb devices that had to claim warranty were offered replacements that were blue 32gb. Some cases took weeks to replace and when the replacements arrived, they were more damaged that the one that was supposed to be sent back.
Canadians were particularly screwed as they don't offer RMA replacement services. They only offer RMA repair and on top of that the rep told me that some Motorola Canadian repair depots don't have the documentation or training on how to repair Nexus 6 phones yet (I chatted online with a rep in late January - things might be different now).
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....and warranty!! OMFG you should see the stories on Reddit about Motorola's warranty. It's absolutely terrible and disgraceful.
If you weren't lucky enough to be able to get your Nexus 6 from the Play store and got it direct from Motorola or a carrier, you were pretty much screwed. People with white 64gb devices that had to claim warranty were offered replacements that were blue 32gb. Some cases took weeks to replace and when the replacements arrived, they were more damaged that the one that was supposed to be sent back.
Canadians were particularly screwed as they don't offer RMA replacement services. They only offer RMA repair and on top of that the rep told me that some Motorola Canadian repair depots don't have the documentation or training on how to repair Nexus 6 phones yet (I chatted online with a rep in late January - things might be different now).
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Just to clarify warranty. In Europe if you call Google support that you have a problem wit any nexus during warranty period, first time they will replace it for factory refurbished device without any questions, so I wouldn't contact Motorola. Samsung offers something similar: you can go to shop you bought it and they will replace it for new device but only within first two weeks after purchase.
Now, please don't understand me wrong , I love Note 4 and wouldn't replace it for Nexus 6 but only because of replaceable battery and micro SD slot and because I can install CM12 on it. TW ROM may have more stuff in it but it doesn't come even close to responsiveness of nexus devices. I still have Nexus 4 and even on TW lollipop Note 4 is slower. I am not talking about performance in games etc, but about general responsiveness. On CM12 situation is other way around of course.
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Just to clarify warranty. In Europe if you call Google support that you have a problem wit any nexus during warranty period, first time they will replace it for factory refurbished device without any questions, so I wouldn't contact Motorola. Samsung offers something similar: you can go to shop you bought it and they will replace it for new device but only within first two weeks after purchase.
Now, please don't understand me wrong , I love Note 4 and wouldn't replace it for Nexus 6 but only because of replaceable battery and micro SD slot and because I can install CM12 on it. TW ROM may have more stuff in it but it doesn't come even close to responsiveness of nexus devices. I still have Nexus 4 and even on TW lollipop Note 4 is slower. I am not talking about performance in games etc, but about general responsiveness. On CM12 situation is other way around of course.
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This is only if you bought it from the Google Play Store. Some people had to buy from a carrier because Google was out of stock.
In terms of responsiveness, it feels the same for my usage. I don't sit there and measure how fast it goes when I swipe my finger - that is not how I use my phone. I play Leo's Fortune and Hitman Go... that's about as crazy as I get and it works well. I don't see any noticeable lag. So when you say it doesn't even come close, I think you don't know how close it really is because it's pretty damn close if not exactly the same. I'm speaking from experience with the Nexus 6 and not from what I heard someone say on YouTube.
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This is only if you bought it from the Google Play Store. Some people had to buy from a carrier because Google was out of stock.
In terms of responsiveness, it feels the same for my usage. I don't sit there and measure how fast it goes when I swipe my finger - that is not how I use my phone. I play Leo's Fortune and Hitman Go... that's about as crazy as I get and it works well. I don't see any noticeable lag. So when you say it doesn't even come close, I think you don't know how close it really is because it's pretty damn close if not exactly the same. I'm speaking from experience with the Nexus 6 and not from what I heard someone say on YouTube.
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I am sorry but you are wrong about warranty, according to EU law you can choose manufacturers warranty or shop warranty. So if you decide to use Google they will help you, I am not assuming, I have done it without any problems.
I wrote what I experience on my devices nexus 4 vs note 4 and nexus 5 which I didn't mention before. I didn't say you saying anything wrong so please hold your comments about YouTube and my knowledge to yourself, there is no need for that, I am entitled to my opinion (especially it is based on experience) same way you are to yours.
From my EXPERIENCE responsiveness is in order: tw kitkat note 4 ->TW lollipop note 4-> lollipop nexus 4 -> lollipop nexus 5 -> cm12 note 4. So I have to disagree: in my case it is not close (closer if I use Nova launcher tough). I can see it mostly when I scroll on fb or big websites, it is not micro lag it is noticeable lag.
I do not own nexus 6 and there is slim chance it is slower comparing to nexus 4 and 5.
I am not trying to prove you wrong, just saying what I observed. I t is absolutely possible you have entirely different experiences and neither of us is right
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I am sorry but you are wrong about warranty, according to EU law you can choose manufacturers warranty or shop warranty. So if you decide to use Google they will help you, I am not assuming, I have done it without any problems.
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How can you go through Google warranty if you didn't purchase the phone from Google? This is what I'm getting at. If you had to purchase the phone through a carrier - Google warranty will not help you here.
If you have not used the Nexus 6 as a daily driver then you, unfortunately, cannot speak from experience. I think you're just looking to be offended by something so I'll leave it at that. I'm not looking for an e-fight. Carry on, sir.
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How can you go through Google warranty if you didn't purchase the phone from Google? This is what I'm getting at. If you had to purchase the phone through a carrier - Google warranty will not help you here.
If you have not used the Nexus 6 as a daily driver then you, unfortunately, cannot speak from experience. I think you're just looking to be offended by something so I'll leave it at that. I'm not looking for an e-fight. Carry on, sir.
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I have been always buying my phones from carriers and twice I have them replaced by manufacturer. Once it was Nexus 5, they send me replacement without asking questions (although you are right it was LG not Google, although they still offered factory refurbished straight away no idea if it is standard policy tough, possible it has something to do with my carrier), and second time it was Sony Xperia S which went for repair and they gave me a new one after they decided it could not be repaired. So I will repeat again You are entitled to manufacturers warranty even if you bought it from carrier. Well at least in UK they offer it without hassle. What I am trying to tell is you will always have 2 options when you buy it from carrier, carrier as a seller and manufacturer. Also from what you wrote is not a policy problem, but supply problem and Motorola is not the first to face it. You can find plenty examples how Samsung fails to comply with warranty claims, this is just a part of mass production, and is especially visible within first few months after release.
Sir I am not looking for a fight either ( I believed that comment about YouTube was directed at me, therefore my response), I placed my comparison to 2 nexus devices I own, I said I do not own 6, I even said it is possible it is slower . My point is I love Samsung devices, software not so much. And that is where Nexus was always shining - pure os. There was always plenty of phones better made then nexus, but none of them offered the same software experience, and I believe it still stands ( I do not need to own n6 to know that, soft on n5 and n4 is the same). I am sure there will be plenty people, as I assume you are, who will prefer TW over pure android. I am just not one of them. I prefer to by note 4 and install cm12 rather then buying nexus 6 because I believe note 4 is simply better hardware.
Small correction : of course Xperia s was first

Note 4 or s6 or note 5...

hey guys, i have a galaxy s4 for about one and a half year, and i plan to buy a new phone, the thing is, i really like the NOTE 4 design, battery, big screen, but it has some lags, and i like the S6 fresh ui, its smoother than all samsungs, and the style is really nice, i dont know what to get, i know that when the NOTE 5 comes out it will have the S6 ui and the NOTE 4 battery and screen, but i dont know if i should wait or get something now, because if i wanna get the NOTE 5 i have to wait for more than half a year.....i appreciate your advice....THANKS
Iphone 6plus is the best option.
Joking apart s6 edge is the best phone ever made.
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Iphone 6plus is the best option.
Joking apart s6 edge is the best phone ever made.
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Ya if you don't mind not having a removable battery or expanding memory cause there is no sd card slot. Don't listen to this guy. Go with the note 4 if you don't wanna wait also lg g3 is a great phone. Depending on what carrier you are on will depend on The development for the phone
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note 5
I've had all 4 and I cant see myself stopping at the 4
Note 5
Wait for the Note 5. I had a GS4 from launch day in April 2013 up until the Note 4's launch day where I then got the Note 4, I skipped the S5 and waited the extra months and when I got the Note 4 the wait was worth it:
The battery life
Design
Build quality
SPen
Incredible camera
The best display on a mobile
Etc...
I am now happy with my Note 4, the S6 looks like a super downgrade from it,and will get the Note 5 later this year when I open another contract package for my 2nd line.
THANKS guys, i dont mind lack of sd-card as long as i get the 64gb version, but the thing that killing the S6 for me is the screen size, its not small but i have a 5 inch screen now so its not much of an upgrade, and the glass at the back is not the best solution if you drop you device once...maybe i'll check the lg G4 when it comes out....
I have a Note 4 (930F) and i would trade for a S6 edge if someone wants! S6 its the most beautiful phonne ever made
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hey guys, i have a galaxy s4 for about one and a half year, and i plan to buy a new phone, the thing is, i really like the NOTE 4 design, battery, big screen, but it has some lags, and i like the S6 fresh ui, its smoother than all samsungs, and the style is really nice, i dont know what to get, i know that when the NOTE 5 comes out it will have the S6 ui and the NOTE 4 battery and screen, but i dont know if i should wait or get something now, because if i wanna get the NOTE 5 i have to wait for more than half a year.....i appreciate your advice....THANKS
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Personally I don't see a major difference between the S6 and Note 4 when it comes to usability other than the fact that the former lacks many of the functions of the latter. Doubt you'd be disappointed with either one. If you prefer VR however I'd suggest waiting for the Note 5 in case it ships with a 4K/UHD screen as the current one isn't sharp enough to eliminate the screen door effect. Highly recommend getting a Gear VR regardless of whichever phone you end up picking.
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Iphone 6plus is the best option.
Joking apart s6 edge is the best phone ever made.
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How is the battery holding up on it? I didn't know they were on sale yet or do you have one from Samsung?
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Personally I don't see a major difference between the S6 and Note 4 when it comes to usability other than the fact that the former lacks many of the functions of the latter. Doubt you'd be disappointed with either one. If you prefer VR however I'd suggest waiting for the Note 5 in case it ships with a 4K/UHD screen as the current one isn't sharp enough to eliminate the screen door effect. Highly recommend getting a Gear VR regardless of whichever phone you end up picking.
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i do not care about the VR, i want a big screen with smooth ui and good battery, all the time i thought that HTC will come with something special but i was wrong, they used the same device from last year but with a better camera...and lg flex 2 lags a lot with lollipop, its like this year there is no choice but to pick the NOTE 4 if you want a big screen, but i know that samsung is lazy, they wont update the NOTE 4 ui to look like the S6 before the NOTE 5 comes out, and thats an issue...
Note 5, because of design...
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Note 5, because of design...
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yeah but its too far...
i've had an S2 and wanted to buy the S5 when it got out, i wasnt really amazed by it. Compared to the S4 it had ip67 waterproof, better camera, bit better screen but nothing extraordinary , and its still made of plastic.
I decided to wait it out then i realised the note series existed and i was sold immediatly when i saw the amazing note 4 it feels so nice, battery is awesome, screen is awesome, just everything is awesome about it.
If i were you, i'd wait for the note 5 if you can, like you said the nice UI from the s6 will come to N5 too + small upgrades like camera etc and maybe/probably even a note5 dualedge, so why not wait?
I had to buy a new one as my S5 was nearly at the end of it's life, i couldn't trust it anymore but if your s4 works fine, wait it out
Okay, so I'm in the same boat. I'm using my gf S3 because my S4 jumped from the shelf (literally) and commited seppuku, thus needing a new phone badly. Can anybody point the pros and cons of the Note 4 vs S6? Thinking of getting the S6 64GB but the lack of SD card and removable battery (as well as glass backpanel) are negatives in my book. Is the performance/no lag and screen quality really improved? Also, Wolfson DAC in exynos is a plus for me, being a musician and listening TONS of music on the go with headphones. Getting the Note 4 exynos isn't an option for me.
Thanks in advance!
It's the usual tech dilemma. Buy now or wait for the next big thing. There will always be a "next big thing" just around the corner. Buy now then kick yourself down the road when the presumed and currently unknown N5 comes out. Or suffer phone envy until it comes out. I passed off my S4 for a Note 4 because I wanted an S-pen. Not sorry I did and don't expect I'll be mad at myself for not waiting.
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Considering upgrade to Note 4

I've had my Note 2 for 3.5 years now and I still like it but have recently been trying to decide whether it's time to move on and get something newer.
I think the only phone that I'd really consider is the Note 4 (the 5 isn't available in the UK ). I'd probably be looking at paying the same for an 18 month old phone as I did when I got my N2 (£30/m) and I got that the same month it was released.
Is it much of an upgrade over the Note 2 and does it still hold its own against newer phones released? I like the S Pen and screen size otherwise I might consider something else. Or I could just keep my N2 for another year.
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I've had my Note 2 for 3.5 years now and I still like it but have recently been trying to decide whether it's time to move on and get something newer.
I think the only phone that I'd really consider is the Note 4 (the 5 isn't available in the UK ). I'd probably be looking at paying the same for an 18 month old phone as I did when I got my N2 (£30/m) and I got that the same month it was released.
Is it much of an upgrade over the Note 2 and does it still hold its own against newer phones released? I like the S Pen and screen size otherwise I might consider something else. Or I could just keep my N2 for another year.
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note 4 is a great phone, but if i were u i would wait or consider upgrading to s7 edge
From Note 2? Its a HUGE upgrade dude. For almost everything. Just compare the specs in GSMA, and its easy. Some things though can't be reflected on specs, and even in those areas its a huge upgrade. Just go for it.
I went from Note 2 to Note 4, and it was almost everything I hoped. Custom roms aren't as previlent, is the only downside, but cm13 is coming along nicely.
It's a huge upgrade
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If software and half ass fingerprint reader isn't a problem, Note 4 is perfect and can still go toe to toe with current flagships.
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note 4 is a great phone, but if i were u i would wait or consider upgrading to s7 edge
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Wait for what? The S7 edge is a silly price and I don't really see much use for the edge display. And I'd use a case that would cover it up anyway.
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From Note 2? Its a HUGE upgrade dude. For almost everything. Just compare the specs in GSMA, and its easy. Some things though can't be reflected on specs, and even in those areas its a huge upgrade. Just go for it.
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Thanks. If it lasts as long as my Note 2 has I'll be happy. I think I'll go for it
Last September did the same,had my note 2 for about 2,5 years. Gave note 2 to my wife and then compared with my note 4. Note 4 is much pretier and with better feel on the hand, the screen is a big difference,when we put side by side the qHD beats the hell out of the HD. Note 4 is of course faster,the camera is awesome. The only downside its the fingerprint reader,it fails me 4 out of 10. I rooted and wear lots of custom roms on the note 2. When oassed to my wife went with a note 4 port rom,but now on note 4 haven't felt the need to root,i like the stock and abilities of spen and stuff,that's why i bought the note series,so why would i change. I advise you to buy it. You will notice the change. I will only upgrade from note 4 when we have a newer note with foldable display or something really new,otherwise not worth it,they just make some tiny spec upgrade.
GPS is a let down on note 4 my only gripe
Had my note 4 for almost 2 years, use is as Sat Nav for almost all my journeys. battery is great and just got better with software update. I had one issue with my simcard reader but samsung sent someone to collect my phone and i had it back all working in a new housing with new battery and usb cable within a week. My next upgrade is hopefully going to be the note 6 if it has SD card support, if not then ill stick with my trusty note 4
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GPS is a let down on note 4 my only gripe
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Here works fone and fast
The only thing I really miss from Note 2 is the FM radio receiver. There is also a question of size (the Note 4 is a bit taller and it shows when in pocket), durability (the plastic Note 2 held better the few dints and scratches than the metal Note 4) and the access to microSD card (blame Lollipop).
That said, it is a huge upgrade on most areas and a fantastic handset with both removable battery (I keep a spare always charged for a 2-minute 0% to 100%) and microSD card (to keep all those beautiful photos and videos it can capture and record, while also keeping a ton of media). The screen is beautiful and the quick charging ability is also of notice (for when you forget to bring the spare battery). The speaker is almost as week as the Note 2's, but it has great sound when coupled with decent headphones. For gaming, the Game Tuner app helps getting the balance between a good visual experience, frame rates and battery life (you just need to manually adjust the parameters). The S-Pen suite is also improved and the pen itself is leaps and bounds better (it comes with two spare tips as hard as the ones on Note 2 if you really want it).
Just go for it if you can't wait for Note 6 next September and are a Note fan.
Thanks everyone.
I hope I don't get GPS issues with the Note 4 and I do use that quite a lot on my Note 2. Is that something that shows up straight away if there's a problem or goes wrong after time?
I probably could wait 6 months but I'd have to wait 6 more after that as I'd probably renue my SIM only deal for another year if I kept the N2. Think I'll make the jump now. Very surprised there's nothing really catching my eye after 3.5 years.
Interestingly (maybe) EE don't actually sell the Note 4 directly anymore but loads of online places sell it with an EE contract.
I rarely use the FM radio on my phone so don't think I'll miss that. Is the SD card access the same as on a Lollipop CM ROM on this phone? And is Marshmallow out for the N4?
And spare tips for the pen sounds good. My daughter bit the end off my pen so I had to buy a new one
So The Note 4, it's excellent, the Camera rocks and removable battery and sdCard.
The s7 edge? From a Note? Don't do it - I did The s6edge+ fantastic, kept The Note.
You'll love it. Or wait for this years Note6 of that's an option.
The Note4 remains a fabulous phone.
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And spare tips for the pen sounds good. My daughter bit the end off my pen so I had to buy a new one
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I dont have any gps issues,marsmallow already came out for spring variant so ours should have it soon. And mine came with 3 black tips and 2 white ones and a small plier to exchange it. And again believe in me i also changed N2 for N4 and i never regretted or felt disappointed
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Thanks everyone.
I hope I don't get GPS issues with the Note 4 and I do use that quite a lot on my Note 2. Is that something that shows up straight away if there's a problem or goes wrong after time?
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I don't get the GPS issues on my phone either. Although GLONASS accessibility is an exclusively available thing in India. But if I remember right, Note 2 indeed was faster to have sat locks, I mean I don't remember much, cause its 3 years since I have used the Note 2 but it was almost instant outside and even in indoor it was 30 seconds if not less. This Note 4 on other hand takes around 30-60 seconds for outside lock sometimes for me (especially when my data is off), and in indoor in takes around a couple of minutes (again, if Data or WiFi is off). What I gather from these new phones is that they depend on your A-GPS setting quite a lot, which I don't think was the case with Note 2. In any case its no deal breaker at all. Just a little more waiting time, that's all. Accuracy is immaculate, far better than Note 2 anyway
In any case if problem should happen then there's an app called TopNTP, do install that, it made my otherwise half dead GPS response of my Note 3, somewhat half-awake. They keep some special NTP servers or something. Nifty app.
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And is Marshmallow out for the N4?
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Yes, for ONE carrier, in ONE country, Sprint or something. But I am sure the international release will happen soon.
Well my Note 4 has now been ordered. Got an email asking me to ring to give them some extra info or something but they're shut now.
Excited now No other phones I want, Note 5 not available over here (and no SD card ), Note 6 (if it does come to the UK) will probably be silly price, and I'm sure I'll be happy with the Note 4.
Thanks everyone
I got a note 4 off my brother and love it. It's quick, reliable and good battery life considering its nearly 2 years old.
Should you consider it is another question.
Pros:
Screen on par with most new phones, enough power and battery life is good enough considering the screen size and remember this was one of the first with qhd. Has everything the new Samsung phones have.
Cons - it's not 64bit and marshmallow update will probably be the last official update. There are only few custom roms which are up to date although you do have cm13 roms out there is you decide to give up on the spen features. If you looking to future proof yourself I would probably get a note 6 or find a note 5 on ebay. At least that way you'll get android n and more chances of newer custom roms.
If you not all interested in the updates you should definitely consider a note 4(there are note 5 ports which make your feel newer and echoerom online is excellent). Looks good and performance is as good as you can get out there. Plus it's a lot better than the note 2.

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