How many of you are actually going to get the N4 and run stock on it? I'm considering pre-ordering, though I feel like I should wait until it gains root.
Better off preordering for the $200 samsung promo
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Better off preordering for the $200 samsung promo
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I didn't see anything about that on Tmo's upgrade site?
https://samsunggalaxypromotions.com/Note4/
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https://samsunggalaxypromotions.com/Note4/
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I have JUMP. This wouldn't make a difference for me lol
While I've always rooted my phones, I think the utility of doing so is shrinking all the time, and more so with the Note models because you lose the s-pen unless you use a stock ROM. I'm not going to wait for root.
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I have JUMP. This wouldn't make a difference for me lol
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Why not? I did.
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How many of you are actually going to get the N4 and run stock on it? I'm considering pre-ordering, though I feel like I should wait until it gains root.
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I am planning to run stock until the root is available, but even then I will most likely run stock-based ROMs. AOSP ROMs tend to not be stable and have broken features on Samsung devices. Nova launcher, Xposed, and some root requiring apps give me a perfect compromise.
I'm not a fan of AOSP roms either. I run Touchwiz roms. I haven't been stock in years.
I wonder how long before we'll see root on it. I'm definitely considering upgrading and running stock for the time being. The screen and camera upgrades look awesome.
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I am planning to run stock until the root is available, but even then I will most likely run stock-based ROMs. AOSP ROMs tend to not be stable and have broken features on Samsung devices. Nova launcher, Xposed, and some root requiring apps give me a perfect compromise.
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This is the route I might stick with this time around. I'm a current Galaxy S3 (ROM CM 11) owner and I expect that with the Note 4, a rooted stock ROM with Nova and Xposed would be best so I don't lose all enhancements. With the S3 the camera quality definitely took a hit.
My concern about Xposed is if we get Android L (down the road) and it's supposed to run in ART, Xposed won't work until it's updated and no idea when that'll be.
On the other hand, I've heard of some Note app alternatives but no app names ever mentioned.
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This is the route I might stick with this time around. I'm a current Galaxy S3 (ROM CM 11) owner and I expect that with the Note 4, a rooted stock ROM with Nova and Xposed would be best so I don't lose all enhancements. With the S3 the camera quality definitely took a hit.
My concern about Xposed is if we get Android L (down the road) and it's supposed to run in ART, Xposed won't work until it's updated and no idea when that'll be.
On the other hand, I've heard of some Note app alternatives but no app names ever mentioned.
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I also wonder about losing my unrestricted tethering. I tether to my tablet for work, and I feel like I'd destroy data on a stock rom.
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I have JUMP. This wouldn't make a difference for me lol
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How did u redeem through tmobile? I also per-order 2 note4.
So we as JUMP customers cannot get the $200 promo?
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AFourg said:
So we as JUMP customers cannot get the $200 promo?
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No, apparently not. I lucked out with it, but it seems they closed that workaround.
Well. I'm now pre ordered. Let's see if I keep the pre-order.
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Why not? I did.
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Mind explaining how? Did you do so online?
I went onto my tmobile, upgraded/preordered using jump, signed my eip in browser window and everything n saw no options for getting trade in credit towards my eip balance.
How the crap do you get trade in credit towards a jump upgrade anyways? Doors it come off your eip balance? Before creating your payment(like down payment credit) so it finances a lower amount or just towards the next payment(finance the full 749 n just goes towards first $31 payment?)...
Please enlighten us, I'd enjoy $200 bucks in my pocket AND jumping for only tax up front..
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No, apparently not. I lucked out with it, but it seems they closed that workaround.
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Nmmm....
Still interested in how you skid by with it... online? Over the phone? In store?
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Mind explaining how? Did you do so online?
I went onto my tmobile, upgraded/preordered using jump, signed my eip in browser window and everything n saw no options for getting trade in credit towards my eip balance.
How the crap do you get trade in credit towards a jump upgrade anyways? Doors it come off your eip balance? Before creating your payment(like down payment credit) so it finances a lower amount or just towards the next payment(finance the full 749 n just goes towards first $31 payment?)...
Please enlighten us, I'd enjoy $200 bucks in my pocket AND jumping for only tax up front..
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Nmmm....
Still interested in how you skid by with it... online? Over the phone? In store?
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I ordered using the normal upgrade, then traded in the phone online. I then called and asked them to cancel the order then reorder with JUMP. It still kept the old trade in as well.
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I ordered using the normal upgrade, then traded in the phone online. I then called and asked them to cancel the order then reorder with JUMP. It still kept the old trade in as well.
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I could see that still working if someone wanted to go through the trouble... they don't like to ever send anything back once you've sent it in.... so no choice but to give you the credit even if you cancel...
Did you get a credit receipt already?
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I could see that still working if someone wanted to go through the trouble... they don't like to ever send anything back once you've sent it in.... so no choice but to give you the credit even if you cancel...
Did you get a credit receipt already?
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I sent it to them late last week, so not yet.
Guys dont worry about running stock on the new N4. When you flash Tweaked rom, which is based off of stock Touchwiz, it will be the best phone experience you ever had. I promise.
Related
Same song different tune. Bounty for the Galaxy S4 Active i537 bootloader unlock method
Bootloader unlock must be repeatable by the average user it also must be stable
It can also be a work around to allow custom recoveries, roms, and kernels to be flashed be the basic user:
Pledges:
_MetalHead_ $50
yankeesfan714 $25
Marvelicious75 $15
msn.debord $20 (user backed out)
sc0tty8 $10
daugh016 $20
Rattles $15
stephensonbrady $10
kirkgrier $25
paleh0rse $10
amerikian $10
taaeng $10
skeppley $20
bubba9004 $10
Zmetta $50
daledenton $100
Deliximus $20
dave5777 $25
darktony85 $40.08(user backed out)
yoondroid $50(user backed out)
JEZZEJAMEZ $20
texassax $20
freddiemercury1 $20
mnasledov $100
my-blue-snog-box $10
Avail211 $50
greg2725d $20
huggstown $100
V1C7OR $20
googlegot $100 (user backed out)
EvilTelephone $10
nlsoldier $20
C/SmokD $50
hackstermind $50
muqali$50
tabish121 $40
DeathIYIetal $150
Total: $1155
(if you made a pledge but changed your mind or if I missed your pledge please PM me)
I was asked what the process would be once a exploit is found. Once it is found we will wait for the dev to specify how he wants the money sent. Usually it is just a donation to their paypal account. On rare occasions the dev will just say they want money donated to charity but that is rare and the dev should get paid for their hard work. I will follow up to make sure everyone pays.
This is gonna be a hard one to achieve, not because it's going to be difficult but because the S4 Active is an AT&T exclusive and the international variant doesn't seem that popular.
Need an Active forum on here. No pun intended haha
Can we debloat with a locked bootloader on stock rooted rom?
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Can we debloat with a locked bootloader on stock rooted rom?
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Absolutely. Use Titanium Backup to back up all the stock apps just in case, and then delete or freeze them.
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Can we debloat with a locked bootloader on stock rooted rom?
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That is what I did... I took out the bloat apps... Honestly the bootloader for me is a "in the long run" thing. I am more than happy with the current state of my S4 Active, just wouldn't mind the early update and future mods that require a flash
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That is what I did... I took out the bloat apps... Honestly the bootloader for me is a "in the long run" thing. I am more than happy with the current state of my S4 Active, just wouldn't mind the early update and future mods that require a flash
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Me too. I've already debloated and used FolderMount to move my big games to the external SD card so the bootloader unlock can wait as long as it needs too. The stock ROM on here is blazing fast and has everything I need. I am a happy camper.
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Put me down for twenty dollars I suppose.
Wonder if geohot is eyeballing the bounty
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Wonder if geohot is eyeballing the bounty
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It'd be pretty cool if he just completely hacks it. =p
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It'd be pretty cool if he just completely hacks it. =p
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If this happened he'd most likely be able to walk away with the bounty for the S4 AT&T, S4 Verizon and S4 active, so he'd be roughly $1000 richer.
With that, I'll throw in $25 because I don't think a BL unlock will happen.
Might also want to stipulate in the OP whether or not the boot loader needs to be unlocked or if a workaround to run custom kernels and recoveries would be good enough.
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If this happened he'd most likely be able to walk away with the bounty for the S4 AT&T, S4 Verizon and S4 active, so he'd be roughly $1000 richer.
With that, I'll throw in $25 because I don't think a BL unlock will happen.
Might also want to stipulate in the OP whether or not the boot loader needs to be unlocked or if a workaround to run custom kernels and recoveries would be good enough.
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Workaround would be great.
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I'm willing to throw in $15 on this as well. Still don't own one, but with root opened up, I may go shopping tomorrow.
As before, I hope you don't mind sending out a PM to those who don't pay up promptly. I probably wouldn't have checked the forum for several days otherwise. The PM got Geohot his money much sooner and got me to this thread...
Isn't the S4 Active Bootloader still exploitable with the LOKI exploit from djrbliss? The I9505G bootloader is and is more recent. All you'd need is to change the offsets for the check_sigs function in loki_patch.c and you should be good to go.
Of course someone (I guess you know who I I am talking about) can always repack it with a fancy name and claim he's hacked the Active bootloader all on his own eh ?
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Isn't the S4 Active Bootloader still exploitable with the LOKI exploit from djrbliss? The I9505G bootloader is and is more recent. All you'd need is to change the offsets for the check_sigs function in loki_patch.c and you should be good to go.
Of course someone (I guess you know who I I am talking about) can always repack it with a fancy name and claim he's hacked the Active bootloader all on his own eh ?
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No Dan confirmed loki has been completely hard patched on the S4 Active.
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No Dan confirmed loki has been completely hard patched on the S4 Active.
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Hum... then it's going to be hard. At the very worst, it's releasing next week in the EU with an unlocked bootloader.
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Hum... then it's going to be hard. At the very worst, it's releasing next week in the EU with an unlocked bootloader.
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Looks like everyone's gonna be freaking out for the EU version then But it won't really help to unlock the bootloader :/
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If this happened he'd most likely be able to walk away with the bounty for the S4 AT&T, S4 Verizon and S4 active, so he'd be roughly $1000 richer.
With that, I'll throw in $25 because I don't think a BL unlock will happen.
Might also want to stipulate in the OP whether or not the boot loader needs to be unlocked or if a workaround to run custom kernels and recoveries would be good enough.
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I'm willing to throw in $15 on this as well. Still don't own one, but with root opened up, I may go shopping tomorrow.
As before, I hope you don't mind sending out a PM to those who don't pay up promptly. I probably wouldn't have checked the forum for several days otherwise. The PM got Geohot his money much sooner and got me to this thread...
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Updated. Thanks.
@geohot if you thought getting root was quick money finding a way to unlock the bootloader (or a work around) will bring in donations for AT&T S4 users, AT&T S4 active users, Verizon S4 active users and probably a handful of international users (and maybe future note 3 users, s4 zoom, S4 mini). No one will be able to steal you joy because this has not be possible by ANY dev to date Flex your muscles and blow our minds once again :good:
The only way were gonna be able to unlock our boot loader is when theres a leak from att or Verizon with the keys or whatever. It'll happen sooner or later but not now and its not hackable. Its 2013 lol these companies are really genius.
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The only way were gonna be able to unlock our boot loader is when theres a leak from att or Verizon with the keys or whatever. It'll happen sooner or later but not now and its not hackable. Its 2013 lol these companies are really genius.
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I'm no hacker and I don't really know anything about how secure the bootloader is, but I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard of something "not hackable" being hacked...
It will probably take longer for vzw versions, but at least we know the order it is being released as well as approximate time.
Wonderful, us VZW guys aren't even on the list. Thanks Obama
I guess there is no love for the Galaxy Note Pro. At least my S6 Edge is getting it.
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I guess there is no love for the Galaxy Note Pro. At least my S6 Edge is getting it.
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I feel ya, I have a Galaxy Tab S 10.5.
Is the UK the same?
Sooooooo any updates on this?
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Sooooooo any updates on this?
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I haven't seen anything further. But I did install the free Marshmallow theme from the theme store.
One of my friends received Android 6.0 on his Boost Mobile LG Stylo today. Not bad for a $179 phone!
i see marshmallow has been out for a bit now for the s6 edge. how is there no tar for those of us who would like to try it out?
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It has not been released by Verizon yet.
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giobotta said:
i see marshmallow has been out for a bit now for the s6 edge. how is there no tar for those of us who would like to try it out?
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Google does the update and then sends it to Samsung for testing. IF Samsung decides the update is worthy and fits into their business plan for the life of the phone, they will test the update and correct things that are specific to the S6. IF that is completed then they send the update to Verizon, who in turn, decides if it fits in their business plan and the planned end of life for the product. If Verizon decides to pass it along then they update the code with their specifics and then they release it to the phones.
All of that has to go good before we knaves might see an update.
Unfortunately Android updates and timeline does not fit into the end of life plans for phones by the carriers. That is why we usually only get one or two updates.
Just saw this while searching online tonight.
http://www.mobipicker.com/galaxy-s6-s6-edge-s6-edge-s5-note5-note-4-android-marshmallow-update/
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It is no February 1st no Marshmellow
You guys know it's Marshmallow... with an A, not an E... right? Seems like something spell check should have warned you of...
Don't suppose anyone's heard anything for us VZW guys in terms of getting any updates, have they? About to list my phone on swappa and try to get something else... Not having root access or the ability to even really play with my phone is making this phone kinda boring to me. That and i'm not as much of a fan of the edge screen as I thought i'd be
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Don't suppose anyone's heard anything for us VZW guys in terms of getting any updates, have they? About to list my phone on swappa and try to get something else... Not having root access or the ability to even really play with my phone is making this phone kinda boring to me. That and i'm not as much of a fan of the edge screen as I thought i'd be
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If you do get a new phone I strongly suggest you get the Nexus 6. A bunch of support and you can unlock the boot loader and get any ROM you want it's awesome. I've been loving mine!
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If you do get a new phone I strongly suggest you get the Nexus 6. A bunch of support and you can unlock the boot loader and get any ROM you want it's awesome. I've been loving mine!
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Yeah it's a catch between the nexus 6 and the turbo 2 if I decide to move away. The turbo 2 in terms of hardware is slightly superior, but unfortunately it seems like it's suffering the same fate as my current phone
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Yeah it's a catch between the nexus 6 and the turbo 2 if I decide to move away. The turbo 2 in terms of hardware is slightly superior, but unfortunately it seems like it's suffering the same fate as my current phone
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Yeah so I've heard. Definitely would recommend the Nexus 6 as I'm using it right now and its amazing but its your choice. Price wise its pretty cheap too. Got mine for $225 on swappa
Starting to roll out from Samsung. Verizon will likely take forever to send it out though....
Another bit of a tease http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/16/samsung_starts_marshmallow_upgrades/
As I said this will be my second time returning this phone. And right now there's no phone in the market that comes near this phone. I don't know if to return it or what. I'm at a lost here. Sdcard, spen slick and so many more feature.
I feel your pain. Always on display, water resistance, spen. I dont know what else to get.
I feel the same way! but we have not been given allot of choices
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I feel the same way! But we have not been given allot of choices
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I can't give it up even if I wanted too bought off Craigslist and no on will help me so f it I'm keep the beast wish me luck
V20 is the only option but good thing I'll hold on to my baby till it releases.
This whole fiasco almost looks to me like a sabotage or complete incompetence among engineers. Do they actually know what the problem is? Because apparently it is not what they said it was. So what happens if the phone gets stolen or lost?
Ya this phone is just premium in every way. I dont even think a v20 will be as badass as this phone. I'm holding on to mine until some more info is released
Anyone heard about Asus zenfone3 deluxe? Can it be close to V20
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There isn't a phone out the van hold an Spen to the Note 7. Anything LG makes is crap. The other iphoney is not anything special. I'm holding on to mine. Samsung hasn't released a statement about halting the note 7. I'll hold on to this phone until I wanna give it up. If it blows up, so be it. That's my choice.
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This whole fiasco almost looks to me like a sabotage or complete incompetence among engineers. Do they actually know what the problem is? Because apparently it is not what they said it was. So what happens if the phone gets stolen or lost?
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Seems to me this issue started soon after pulling the battery process to their internal plants instead of outsourcing to reputable manufacturers. Looks like it was a corner cutting, cost saving routine. But look how much it's costing them now. Seems they took this process for granted instead of making a quality product they screwed themselves so hard, the note line could be cursed. The upcoming S8, I won't be an adopter, watch everyone else get burned just like we are now.
Yea I plan on holding on to mine too. I been thinking all day what phone could I replace it with and I literally came up with nothing. I got a few cases on the way, 256 gb sd card is on the way, gear vr on the way ????
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Yea I plan on holding on to mine too. I been thinking all day what phone could I replace it with and I literally came up with nothing. I got a few cases on the way, 256 gb sd card is on the way, gear vr on the way ��������
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Just read occulus abandon the note 7 vr...so if you receive that pretty lil thing make sure auto update is not check
yah and remember this phone is not compatible with tmobile 256QAM network yet. tmobile has to push that update. if they stop support, note 7 owners will not be getting updates. i returned both my rooted v2s today. didn't have a choice.
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yah and remember this phone is not compatible with tmobile 256QAM network yet. tmobile has to push that update. if they stop support, note 7 owners will not be getting updates. i returned both my rooted v2s today. didn't have a choice.
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What did you end up getting
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What did you end up getting
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Nothing..
I originally had my note 4 on ebay for sale and had maybe 10 offers. Pulled off the listing and decided to keep it.
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Nothing..
I originally had my note 4 on ebay for sale and had maybe 10 offers. Pulled off the listing and decided to keep it.
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Yea I still have my note 4 but the screen and the digitizer is broken.
Yea, I took mine back today, never thought it could be so hard to part with phone, like others have said, I went back to my note 4, lg v20 is an option, but after having the 7, not sure if I can convince myself to be happy with any other phone.
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This touchscreen is failing constantly. I've never had a phone with so much defects. I'm gonna call them tomorrow and ask for a replacement. This is ridiculous.
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Yea, I took mine back today, never thought it could be so hard to part with phone, like others have said, I went back to my note 4, lg v20 is an option, but after having the 7, not sure if I can convince myself to be happy with any other phone.
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I have my one plus 3. Awesome phone. Really.
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Check the Samsung app to see if your device is affected
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I just bought a "unlocked" note 8 and everything was clean when I checked it and everything works and is activated but when I was scrolling though the settings I saw under "knox" there's a Rent-a-center profile with the contact number and everything on it and had no idea why, So I've been doing research about what it means and a looking for a solution when I found out that the phone is though them and if it's not paid off they can remotely lock you out of it and I want to prevent that from happening because I paid alot of money for this phone! I had another note 8 before this one that i broke the screen on and it was locked to AT&T(which I don't have) so I got help on here with rooting it and putting new firmware on it which worked. So I don't know if doing that again will take care of the issue or what I should do? If anyone has any advice or knows what I should do please let me know!! Thank you!
If you own the phone, ie, paid for it all then I'd go back to where you got it from and tell them to take it off.
Contact seller and possibly even rent-a-center to check what status of phone is. If issues do exist, demand a refund of the seller.
Wow, was curious how much they charge.
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Contact seller and possibly even rent-a-center to check what status of phone is. If issues do exist, demand a refund of the seller.
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I already did that and they said it wasn't paid off fully and to contact the person I bought it from which I've already tried but nothing.. That's why I'm looking for a solution now before I get locked out because they said it's only a matter of time before it happens when the store it was rented from shuts it off and then I'm screwed. I didn't even know you could RENT A PHONE !
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Wow, was curious how much they charge.
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....why would anyone do this.
xbmoyx said:
....why would anything do this.
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For folks that are less advantaged than us I guess. But in reality, I don't agree with it.
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Limeybastard said:
For folks that are less advantaged than us I guess. But in reality, I don't agree with it.
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For $174/month you can get the phone in device installments and service from any carrier for less.
".....I got help on here with rooting it and putting new firmware on it which worked. So I don't know if doing that again will take care of the issue or what I should do?"
No. Root isn't an option in this scenario nor is flashing new firmware.
It appears that Rent-A-Center utilizes a Mobile Device Management solution which, in turn, is dependent on KNOX.
With the current root option for the Snapdragon 835 & Note 8, we don't the ability to alter or remove the partition in question.
However
There are services available ONLINE which MIGHT help you; look for yourself.
Even if you were able to remove the lock, they could still blacklist the device for non-payment.
This puts you back at square one.
Talk to Rent-A-Center directly and explain the situation.
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Wow, was curious how much they charge.
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God I feel violated just looking at that. Those places should be banned. I'd rock a $100 phone before I ever paid that crap.
Nick216ohio said:
God I feel violated just looking at that. Those places should be banned. I'd rock a $100 phone before I ever paid that crap.
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The six months same as cash made me chuckle.
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Guaranteed OP bought an under contract RAC phone. Phone is gonna get locked and op will be SOL.
Sounds to me like the person you bought it from pulled a fast one, phone is probably not even close to being paid off & he sold it.
Like AHE said, even if you were able to remove that RAC lock on it, they can still blacklist if that's the case (phone not being paid off).
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For $174/month you can get the phone in device installments and service from any carrier for less.
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Most of Rent-a-Center's clientele couldn't borrow a buck for a soda. They don't have the credit rating to get a phone at a more mainstream price.
And before anyone screams about RAC's "predatory" business model, consider that most of their customers got into the credit mess they're in by getting stuff they couldn't afford or thought they were too slick to not pay and get away with it. They're a match made in heaven.
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Most of Rent-a-Center's clientele couldn't borrow a buck for a soda. They don't have the credit rating to get a phone at a more mainstream price.
And before anyone screams about RAC's "predatory" business model, consider that most of their customers got into the credit mess they're in by getting stuff they couldn't afford or thought they were too slick to not pay and get away with it. They're a match made in heaven.
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You have good points. But rent a center places are straight up predatory business. If customers credit not able to get phone on payment plan. Then straight out deny them. For the better off of person.
I would feel like I had no soul working and selling to people at places like that. Double price stepping over the line. Tripled price jesus christ that's insane! Those type of places and others should be banned.
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The six months same as cash made me chuckle.
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Nothing like paying $500 over original price. Like I said rent a center and checkNcash type places should be banned. Jesus christ those companies are pathetic.
OP I feel really bad for getting shafted
I've figured out how to make it work if you're interested
If you were able to root it, install Titanium backup, there is a file that is installed by Rent a center. It cannot be unistalled..I tried to and it vanishes for a few minutes but is reinstalled. Even after device is paid off you have to call rent a center and get their loss prevention department and they will remotely remove it. Even when I rooted and installed a rom the file was there. Trust me on this, I was silly enough to get a device from them yrs ago and even after the 90 days same as cash it took them over a month to take the file off my phone.
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I believe the file is sec.abt
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Note 8 Rent a center locked
obyrd1983 said:
I've figured out how to make it work if you're interested
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Yes please share thanks!
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Wow, was curious how much they charge.
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for my case they want shy of $1800 for a note 8
actually i bought a note 8 on ebay after 2 months use my phone was locked too with its was saying rent a center and asking for password
a friend of mine has commented on facebook post for someone who was saying he have sucessfully removed this lock
i did contacted him on his facebook he told me to send picture of the lock i did send it and he said he can unlock it he asked me for 90$ to remove the lock i accept and and paid him via skrill he asked for team viewer the logged to my pc then made the screen black and i do not know what he did then he tell me to do some steps and volla my phone was in download mode for 2 minutes then rebooted and i cant believe the lock was gone
this is the link where i found his post
www . facebook . com/ baselalzoupi/posts/2089441677959653
and this his facebook id page where i contacted him
www . facebook . com/ baselalzoupi
i cant post links because i just registered to make you guys know about it because i spent 1 month searching for solution
remove spaces in the link to make it work
Good for you! That guy probably works in rent a center!!
I put the zip on the root of SD. How do I avoid the factory reset?
Anyone?
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Anyone?
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What exactly are you flashing? Are you doing it in TWRP, or stock recovery? People really need to be more specific when they're opening these threads, I see one question that they ask and then I have to reply with multiple questions just to know what they're on about.
Does your update zip contain the CSC? If so, I know that flashing firmware through Odin, there are two CSC files, one called CSC and one called CSC home, or something to that effect, one wipes your phone, the other doesn't.
That's about all I can think of, you really need to give more details.
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What exactly are you flashing? Are you doing it in TWRP, or stock recovery? People really need to be more specific when they're opening these threads, I see one question that they ask and then I have to reply with multiple questions just to know what they're on about.
Does your update zip contain the CSC? If so, I know that flashing firmware through Odin, there are two CSC files, one called CSC and one called CSC home, or something to that effect, one wipes your phone, the other doesn't.
That's about all I can think of, you really need to give more details.
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I mean you can side load an update zip in stock recovery.
If it's an update zip as in a manually installed ota it does have an csc..
Also op is likely an att or Sprint user so wiping when manually flashing is a fact of life.
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10pmStalker said:
I put the zip on the root of SD. How do I avoid the factory reset?
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If you are on Sprint or ATT then no, manually flashing an OTA will always wipe your device.
pcriz said:
I mean you can side load an update zip in stock recovery.
If it's an update zip as in a manually installed ota it does have an csc..
Also op is likely an att or Sprint user so wiping when manually flashing is a fact of life.
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Ah okay, seems like an awful pain for anyone that has that device, I assume it's a firmware that's branded by them as well so waiting for official OTAs would take even longer.
beta546 said:
Ah okay, seems like an awful pain for anyone that has that device, I assume it's a firmware that's branded by them as well so waiting for official OTAs would take even longer.
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Not really. In the states sometimes non carrier branded software takes longer, some times it comes first. It just depends.
The user is likely loading leaked OTA updates from att which means it's not an official release. Just hopping the line a little.
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Not really. In the states sometimes non carrier branded software takes longer, some times it comes first. It just depends.
The user is likely loading leaked OTA updates from att which means it's not an official release. Just hopping the line a little.
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Oh, that's a surprise actually, here in the UK the carrier branded can sometimes take months longer, but how do the carriers release new versions even before Samsung pushes them? Do the carriers over there build there own firmware themselves rather than just taking what Samsung releases and adding all their crap to it?
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Oh, that's a surprise actually, here in the UK the carrier branded can sometimes take months longer, but how do the carriers release new versions even before Samsung pushes them? Do the carriers over there build there own firmware themselves rather than just taking what Samsung releases and adding all their crap to it?
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Samsung builds all of the software builds and carriers test them when they get them but carriers take priority I am assuming because users on carrier plans using carrier branded phones fall in the 90 percentile of cell phone subscribers.
Now I am just making that number up but our market only recently started being a little more diverse when it comes to unlocked options.
It's the difference in paying 800 bucks up front and paying 200 to subsidize and stay on a contract you were probably keeping anyways.
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Samsung builds all of the software builds and carriers test them when they get them but carriers take priority I am assuming because users on carrier plans using carrier branded phones fall in the 90 percentile of cell phone subscribers.
Now I am just making that number up but our market only recently started being a little more diverse when it comes to unlocked options.
It's the difference in paying 800 bucks up front and paying 200 to subsidize and stay on a contract you were probably keeping anyways.
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Ah right, well that's interesting. And yeah mobile contracts are the main method of acquiring devices here too, but I chose not to upgrade my plan this time and went on SIM only contract with 20gb data, then I used PayPal credit to buy the note 9 from Switzerland with no VAT, which works out significantly cheaper than the £70 + per month to get the phone on contract with any service provider here, that's without paying several hundred pounds up front for the device.
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Ah right, well that's interesting. And yeah mobile contracts are the main method of acquiring devices here too, but I chose not to upgrade my plan this time and went on SIM only contract with 20gb data, then I used PayPal credit to buy the note 9 from Switzerland with no VAT, which works out significantly cheaper than the £70 + per month to get the phone on contract with any service provider here, that's without paying several hundred pounds up front for the device.
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In my almost five years on T-Mobile this is the second time I've done a phone through them. Usually I sell my last and buy the new one out right.
This year they offered my half off in payments over 24 months. So I went for it. I certainly don't like the feeling of a contract but ultimately it works out better price wise but I usually push people to pay as you go alternatives and ysed phones from swappa if they aren't addicted to the "New Big Thing" like me.
I did just read an article from last year that said about 12% of the mobile phones in the US are carrier unlocked.
Now it's making more sense though since we moved away from subsidized and now we lease for the full price like you all over the pond. I think I will try very hard to keep this one for two years though. The prices are just too high. That or grabbing last years model pixel since at this point battery and camera are my big must haves. Ya know if Samsung keeps climbing in price.
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In my almost five years on T-Mobile this is the second time I've done a phone through them. Usually I sell my last and buy the new one out right.
This year they offered my half off in payments over 24 months. So I went for it. I certainly don't like the feeling of a contract but ultimately it works out better price wise but I usually push people to pay as you go alternatives and ysed phones from swappa if they aren't addicted to the "New Big Thing" like me.
I did just read an article from last year that said about 12% of the mobile phones in the US are carrier unlocked.
Now it's making more sense though since we moved away from subsidized and now we lease for the full price like you all over the pond. I think I will try very hard to keep this one for two years though. The prices are just too high. That or grabbing last years model pixel since at this point battery and camera are my big must haves. Ya know if Samsung keeps climbing in price.
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Yeah I've always had phones from the carriers over here, it's always been the best and cheapest option, maybe not cheapest in total, but cheapest on a month by month basis.
But since I discovered PayPal offer credit now, being able to buy anything off eBay and pay in monthly instalments, just worked out much cheaper for me,
I saved 180 on the retail price here, and although I will end up paying some interest, over the time I've paid it off, it is still miles better than £70 a month, and I got 4 months interest free as well which will help in paying a big chunk of it before interest kicks in.
And yeah phones are getting way more expensive these days, they're beginning to sky rocket, the note 9 is the most expensive thing I've ever bought in my life haha. I certainly won't be doing it again for at least a few years, with the hardware we've got it will be at least a couple years before it starts to really fall behind, although saying that, smartphone technology is coming along faster than ever.
Think what we have now, it was only 20 years ago that the Nokia 5110 was the top end of the phone market haha. Now we're looking at foldable screens and such in the near future.
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beta546 said:
Yeah I've always had phones from the carriers over here, it's always been the best and cheapest option, maybe not cheapest in total, but cheapest on a month by month basis.
But since I discovered PayPal offer credit now, being able to buy anything off eBay and pay in monthly instalments, just worked out much cheaper for me,
I saved 180 on the retail price here, and although I will end up paying some interest, over the time I've paid it off, it is still miles better than £70 a month, and I got 4 months interest free as well which will help in paying a big chunk of it before interest kicks in.
And yeah phones are getting way more expensive these days, they're beginning to sky rocket, the note 9 is the most expensive thing I've ever bought in my life haha. I certainly won't be doing it again for at least a few years, with the hardware we've got it will be at least a couple years before it starts to really fall behind, although saying that, smartphone technology is coming along faster than ever.
Think what we have now, it was only 20 years ago that the Nokia 5110 was the top end of the phone market haha. Now we're looking at foldable screens and such in the near future.
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Yeah the guilt each year gets higher for me especially paying full price a lot of the time.
You're right though we did hijack. Good convo but sorry op
Our bad
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Yeah the guilt each year gets higher for me especially paying full price a lot of the time.
You're right though we did hijack. Good convo but sorry op
Our bad
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Yeah I've been quiet good for a long time now and stuck with more mid range phones, but on seeing the note 9 I just needed it, for reasons haha. It didn't help seeing it being advertised on TV every 5 minutes, so if you asked me, it's Samsung's fault.
And yeah, good chat, and I think we partially answered his question at least haha.
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I mean you can side load an update zip in stock recovery.
If it's an update zip as in a manually installed ota it does have an csc..
Also op is likely an att or Sprint user so wiping when manually flashing is a fact of life.
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If you are on Sprint or ATT then no, manually flashing an OTA will always wipe your device.
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That's the first explanation that makes sense. I haven't heard that before. I'm on AT&T. Guess I have to live with it. Not a huge deal as I back everything up but it's a bit of a hassle changing all the setting back.
I use https://samsung.firmware.science for any new firmware that comes out.
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That's the first explanation that makes sense. I haven't heard that before. I'm on AT&T. Guess I have to live with it. Not a huge deal as I back everything up but it's a bit of a hassle changing all the setting back.
I use https://samsung.firmware.science for any new firmware that comes out.
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Yes this phone has a hell of a lot of settings compared to any I've had before. Out of curiosity, have you never tried Google's device settings backup option? I never have, and I've always wondered if it did a good job of it.
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Yes this phone has a hell of a lot of settings compared to any I've had before. Out of curiosity, have you never tried Google's device settings backup option? I never have, and I've always wondered if it did a good job of it.
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I haven't heard of Google device settings backup. I'll check it out now, thanks.
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I haven't heard of Google device settings backup. I'll check it out now, thanks.
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Yeah go to accounts, then backup and restore, then press Google account and you'll get this screen, I've never tried it, but as you've no choice but to wipe when updating, there's no harm you giving it a go, if you do, I wouldn't mind knowing the outcome, it may only backup certain settings, but if it does all of them, that would be great.
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Yeah go to accounts, then backup and restore, then press Google account and you'll get this screen, I've never tried it, but as you've no choice but to wipe when updating, there's no harm you giving it a go, if you do, I wouldn't mind knowing the outcome, it may only backup certain settings, but if it goes all of them, that would be great.
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I'll be sure to let you know how it goes. Got it all backed up. Might be a bit before October update shows up but I'll come back and update you
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I'll be sure to let you know how it goes. Got it all backed up. Might be a bit before October update shows up but I'll come back and update you
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Cool thanks mate. I'd appreciate it.
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Cool thanks mate. I'd appreciate it.
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Updated October security patch. Google didn't restore anything. Unless I'm doing something wrong. Not too sure