Same song different tune. Bounty for the Galaxy S4 Active i537 bootloader unlock method
Bootloader unlock must be repeatable by the average user it also must be stable
It can also be a work around to allow custom recoveries, roms, and kernels to be flashed be the basic user:
Pledges:
_MetalHead_ $50
yankeesfan714 $25
Marvelicious75 $15
msn.debord $20 (user backed out)
sc0tty8 $10
daugh016 $20
Rattles $15
stephensonbrady $10
kirkgrier $25
paleh0rse $10
amerikian $10
taaeng $10
skeppley $20
bubba9004 $10
Zmetta $50
daledenton $100
Deliximus $20
dave5777 $25
darktony85 $40.08(user backed out)
yoondroid $50(user backed out)
JEZZEJAMEZ $20
texassax $20
freddiemercury1 $20
mnasledov $100
my-blue-snog-box $10
Avail211 $50
greg2725d $20
huggstown $100
V1C7OR $20
googlegot $100 (user backed out)
EvilTelephone $10
nlsoldier $20
C/SmokD $50
hackstermind $50
muqali$50
tabish121 $40
DeathIYIetal $150
Total: $1155
(if you made a pledge but changed your mind or if I missed your pledge please PM me)
I was asked what the process would be once a exploit is found. Once it is found we will wait for the dev to specify how he wants the money sent. Usually it is just a donation to their paypal account. On rare occasions the dev will just say they want money donated to charity but that is rare and the dev should get paid for their hard work. I will follow up to make sure everyone pays.
This is gonna be a hard one to achieve, not because it's going to be difficult but because the S4 Active is an AT&T exclusive and the international variant doesn't seem that popular.
Need an Active forum on here. No pun intended haha
Can we debloat with a locked bootloader on stock rooted rom?
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yankeesfan714 said:
Can we debloat with a locked bootloader on stock rooted rom?
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Absolutely. Use Titanium Backup to back up all the stock apps just in case, and then delete or freeze them.
yankeesfan714 said:
Can we debloat with a locked bootloader on stock rooted rom?
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That is what I did... I took out the bloat apps... Honestly the bootloader for me is a "in the long run" thing. I am more than happy with the current state of my S4 Active, just wouldn't mind the early update and future mods that require a flash
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That is what I did... I took out the bloat apps... Honestly the bootloader for me is a "in the long run" thing. I am more than happy with the current state of my S4 Active, just wouldn't mind the early update and future mods that require a flash
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Me too. I've already debloated and used FolderMount to move my big games to the external SD card so the bootloader unlock can wait as long as it needs too. The stock ROM on here is blazing fast and has everything I need. I am a happy camper.
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Put me down for twenty dollars I suppose.
Wonder if geohot is eyeballing the bounty
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Wonder if geohot is eyeballing the bounty
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It'd be pretty cool if he just completely hacks it. =p
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It'd be pretty cool if he just completely hacks it. =p
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If this happened he'd most likely be able to walk away with the bounty for the S4 AT&T, S4 Verizon and S4 active, so he'd be roughly $1000 richer.
With that, I'll throw in $25 because I don't think a BL unlock will happen.
Might also want to stipulate in the OP whether or not the boot loader needs to be unlocked or if a workaround to run custom kernels and recoveries would be good enough.
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If this happened he'd most likely be able to walk away with the bounty for the S4 AT&T, S4 Verizon and S4 active, so he'd be roughly $1000 richer.
With that, I'll throw in $25 because I don't think a BL unlock will happen.
Might also want to stipulate in the OP whether or not the boot loader needs to be unlocked or if a workaround to run custom kernels and recoveries would be good enough.
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Workaround would be great.
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I'm willing to throw in $15 on this as well. Still don't own one, but with root opened up, I may go shopping tomorrow.
As before, I hope you don't mind sending out a PM to those who don't pay up promptly. I probably wouldn't have checked the forum for several days otherwise. The PM got Geohot his money much sooner and got me to this thread...
Isn't the S4 Active Bootloader still exploitable with the LOKI exploit from djrbliss? The I9505G bootloader is and is more recent. All you'd need is to change the offsets for the check_sigs function in loki_patch.c and you should be good to go.
Of course someone (I guess you know who I I am talking about) can always repack it with a fancy name and claim he's hacked the Active bootloader all on his own eh ?
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Isn't the S4 Active Bootloader still exploitable with the LOKI exploit from djrbliss? The I9505G bootloader is and is more recent. All you'd need is to change the offsets for the check_sigs function in loki_patch.c and you should be good to go.
Of course someone (I guess you know who I I am talking about) can always repack it with a fancy name and claim he's hacked the Active bootloader all on his own eh ?
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No Dan confirmed loki has been completely hard patched on the S4 Active.
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No Dan confirmed loki has been completely hard patched on the S4 Active.
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Hum... then it's going to be hard. At the very worst, it's releasing next week in the EU with an unlocked bootloader.
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Hum... then it's going to be hard. At the very worst, it's releasing next week in the EU with an unlocked bootloader.
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Looks like everyone's gonna be freaking out for the EU version then But it won't really help to unlock the bootloader :/
thatbigmoose said:
If this happened he'd most likely be able to walk away with the bounty for the S4 AT&T, S4 Verizon and S4 active, so he'd be roughly $1000 richer.
With that, I'll throw in $25 because I don't think a BL unlock will happen.
Might also want to stipulate in the OP whether or not the boot loader needs to be unlocked or if a workaround to run custom kernels and recoveries would be good enough.
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I'm willing to throw in $15 on this as well. Still don't own one, but with root opened up, I may go shopping tomorrow.
As before, I hope you don't mind sending out a PM to those who don't pay up promptly. I probably wouldn't have checked the forum for several days otherwise. The PM got Geohot his money much sooner and got me to this thread...
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Updated. Thanks.
@geohot if you thought getting root was quick money finding a way to unlock the bootloader (or a work around) will bring in donations for AT&T S4 users, AT&T S4 active users, Verizon S4 active users and probably a handful of international users (and maybe future note 3 users, s4 zoom, S4 mini). No one will be able to steal you joy because this has not be possible by ANY dev to date Flex your muscles and blow our minds once again :good:
The only way were gonna be able to unlock our boot loader is when theres a leak from att or Verizon with the keys or whatever. It'll happen sooner or later but not now and its not hackable. Its 2013 lol these companies are really genius.
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The only way were gonna be able to unlock our boot loader is when theres a leak from att or Verizon with the keys or whatever. It'll happen sooner or later but not now and its not hackable. Its 2013 lol these companies are really genius.
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I'm no hacker and I don't really know anything about how secure the bootloader is, but I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard of something "not hackable" being hacked...
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This is a petition that was originally posted by davidstre. he made it for the verizon s5 and i copied it for AT&T. All credit due to davidstre for the hard work on the wording of this petition. Please sign and maybe it will get the word out that there is a community of people who are willing to give up the warranty to get an unlocked bootloader.
To quote Russ77 - "i know there's been campaigns where members email-bomb or petition Samsung/ATT/Verizon to unlock our devices 'because we bought them and deserve it'; however if its under some form of contract (2 year, next, or edge) we didn't really buy them...
due to my line of work and who I work for (not any of the above) so I can understand and appreciate why this situation exists, to a) mitigate risks of warranty claims, and b) make the devices more marketable to corporate customers needing the security of a locked boot loader and Knox. so perhaps a different approach is needed?
what if we all nicely and professionally petitioned for a setup similar to HTC? this allows us non-corp customers with account responsibility register for unlock, thus absolving Samsung/ATT/Verizon of any future potential warranty claim or technical service call or visit? simply enter the carrier, #, and IMEI and viola. this could work because there is always a risk of finding root thus there will always be a dollar amount associated. if we waive our warranties in exchange - the risk and associated $$ is removed." Thank you Russ77 for this great description of how allot of us feel.
Please sign this and maybe we can get a message out to the powers that be at AT&T.
http://www.change.org/petitions/ran...axy-s5-users-unlocked-bootloader-upon-request
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Newburgh, NY!? That's 10 minutes from me! Awesome
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Don't want to be the negative one here but it didn't and hasn't worked for Note 3 what makes you think it'll work for S5? Once my contract is over I'm moving to T-Mobile or sticking with any unlocked Google phone they come out with.
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Don't want to be the negative one here but it didn't and hasn't worked for Note 3 what makes you think it'll work for S5? Once my contract is over I'm moving to T-Mobile or sticking with any unlocked Google phone they come out with.
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I was just thinking about this. Has this ever actually worked with any carrier?
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Knight-Rider said:
Don't want to be the negative one here but it didn't and hasn't worked for Note 3 what makes you think it'll work for S5? Once my contract is over I'm moving to T-Mobile or sticking with any unlocked Google phone they come out with.
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Signed, just curious how many people signed for the note 3,do you have a rough idea?Tmobiles service sucks around here or I'd think about switching,I think if any phone has a shot at a petition working it's the s5 it's already out sold almost every phone,and a lot of apple users have been jumping ship,but not enough people know or understand what rooting a phone is,that's the only problem I see.So everyone who's signed share it on your Facebook feed.
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I was just thinking about this. Has this ever actually worked with any carrier?
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Not that I'm aware of to be honest with you, AT&T executives don't give a **** about us, they make their money regardless. Look at the incident that happened I believe a few month ago. An upset customer sent an email to AT&T CEO and he received a letter in the mail to stop or they would send him a cease and desist and also threatened to sue him, lol I think that was the most cowardly thing AT&T CEO could've done.
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djmouse said:
Signed, just curious how many people signed for the note 3,do you have a rough idea?Tmobiles service sucks around here or I'd think about switching,I think if any phone has a shot at a petition working it's the s5 it's already out sold almost every phone,and a lot of apple users have been jumping ship,but not enough people know or understand what rooting a phone is,that's the only problem I see.So everyone who's signed share it on your Facebook feed.
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Here you go https://www.change.org/petitions/ra...nk&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition
T-Mobile is as good if not better than AT&T in my area, it's actually improved in the last 2 years. And yes you're right not many people understand or know how to root a device even if provided step by step instructions lol. Not many people care about rooting phones though, I do though I like the fact we can customize to our liking.
I might be speaking out of an uninformed thought here, but I'm concerned about our root status.
With the bounty being as high as it is, and me not being able to find anywhere that the Devs are collaborating, what are the odds it is taking so long (or even might NOT happen) because there is no developer collaboration for the insanely high bounty? I could be wrong, but I'm starting to wonder if that's the right way to go about it.
Then there's the concern that if we do achieve root, it'll be so late in the game that no one will be developing for our S5 at that point and will have moved on to another device.
Thoughts?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we NEED the bootloader unlocked in order to achieve root it just makes it a hell of a lot easier. I believe the Note 3 on certain carriers still has the bootloader locked but someone was able to find a vulnerability and used that to get root. But I do share your concern as many carriers are offering upgrades after a year and most developers and obviously users get new devices with their upgrade.
Correct, we don't need an unlock bootloader to have root, but, Kitkat update has patch all the vulnerabilities that were use in previous devices like the S4 and Note 3, currently all Note3 shipped with KitKat are stock with no root because of that. I personally think that root will not be achieved on the S5 (Verizon and AT&T), the Note 3 has been on the market way longer than the S5 and the bootloader still locked and root is thing of the past if the Device was shipped with KK from factory.
Besides most of the Devs are researchers and get better recognition/$$$ by giving the exploits to manufactures instead of making it public. Other Devs just like to make it for Fun, but with the locked bootloader there is not much fun but a lot of work instead, and since no everybody that pledges actually pays is not worth it for them to actually work on getting root for a device you can get unlocked on other networks (ex. T-Mo). If all S5 were to be shipped with a locked bootloader, you would had root by now.
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I might be speaking out of an uninformed thought here, but I'm concerned about our root status.
With the bounty being as high as it is, and me not being able to find anywhere that the Devs are collaborating, what are the odds it is taking so long (or even might NOT happen) because there is no developer collaboration for the insanely high bounty? I could be wrong, but I'm starting to wonder if that's the right way to go about it.
Then there's the concern that if we do achieve root, it'll be so late in the game that no one will be developing for our S5 at that point and will have moved on to another device.
Thoughts?
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These are legitimate concerns that should have you reevaluating your next purchase based on carrier and manufacturer. The goal is to make AT&T and Verizon phones secure enough for the military and business accounts. That is where the big bucks lie for those carriers. Sprint and T-mobile are more geared towards the average pedestrian with their lower price plans and limited coverage, therefore do not worry about locked bootloaders and super secure phones. Other manufacturers such as HTC provide unlock to those seeking it and root has been very easy.
As for developer discussions regarding root...you have seen what the bounty threads turn into...with all that bickering and name calling it is not conducive to a development environment, so those people actually hampered progress. I am sure discussions are going on in private in some IRC channel without the needless interruptions and constant requests for ETA and "Are we there yet." And as mentioned there is a lot more $$$ in the private sectors rather than claim a half bounty and have a free root available.
I'm really regretting my purchase of the S5 without having root, and to hear that it may never come is really concerning.
Welp, sounds like it's time for me to bite the bullet then. I'm thinking I'll post my phone to Craigslist as looking to sell or trade for a T-mobile version. Worse-comes-to-worst, I'll ebay the phone for what I can get, and pay out of pocket the difference for a new one.
Raises a new question: international version or just a different U.S. carrier's?
The carriers are getting work and ideas from us, then adding those features to the phones. Then locking them up (Bootloaders, No Root) because - Like Kenny says, they want to be more secure for corporations. Some people use root for bad things like (Not paying for apps and Xposed modules blocking ads, and other things that they don't want us doing) I use root for LONG LASTING BATTERY LIFE and getting rid of bloatware apps running in the background I dont even use. Yes, it sucks we can't do the things we use to but, they have made it so we can Turn Off apps, Long Lasting battery with the Ultra Power Save feature, etc......(Things we did with root are now coming on the phone >Stole those ideas from us<
EDIT: LETS GO KINGO, YOU CAN DO IT !!!!!! Maybe soon Kingo can produce a root option. That would be awesome. I'm not leaving At&t, been there for 18 years. Great coverage and customer service has been awesome to me !!!
Don't need root for getting apps for free. Ever heard of Aptoide?
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LoopingCreeper said:
Don't need root for getting apps for free. Ever heard of Aptoide?
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Well, you know what I mean. They don't want us to have Root Access. You can do a lot of things with root man.
LuckyColdJohnson said:
Well, you know what I mean. They don't want us to have Root Access. You can do a lot of things with root man.
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I know what your mean. Freedom can be used to get in app purchaces for free. That is kinda getting apps for free and it requires root.
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For me, ans more of a power user, the Root abilities were to get a smooother better battery life custom solution. I used Adaway and some apps for better performance. Other than that, root didnt mean much to me. I do miss the rebel aspect of it and that alone rather makes me wish I had bought the HTC M8 instead of the S5 last week.
Best of luck to the Devs that find us a root or AT&T to provide unlocking.
I'm with you guys. I'm just out to up my battery life, remove ads (admittedly. Can you blame me?), and have a few hardware changes, like reassigning buttons, switching music with my volume keys and such.
Biggest want? Titanium backup. I relied on that app more than I'd like to admit, as well as TWRP or ClockWork (depending on the phone/ROM I was using at the time).
It's just nice to be free with something I bought full price, SO I COULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO WHAT I WANTED WITH IT.
Either way, We'll see what happens. All I want is root permissions.
Here's a curious thought, though. The AT&T S4 isn't rooted, but they have a workaround (loki mod). Anyone know if something like that is in the works for us?
I agree. Hopefully we will get an Root option (Maybe Kingo will come through again like with the Note 3) but their saying nobody has a root option for 4.4 on At&t phones. Don't see much talk about almost getting there as well. Chainfire was also saying that new Android firmware is about to start breaking root apps. 4.4.3 and on could be the start to the end of custom roms and root for Samsung devices (At&t). I too thought about going with an HTC device, I just love the S5's camera. I don't know what to think about these new phones man. It was so much fun installing and customizing our phones how we wanted to. Its sad and depressing watching these loved things go away. I'm not on my phone as much anymore.
I'm personally getting ready to purchase another device, I love my GS5 even tho it isn't rooted but I'm just not liking the size of it. I got it for $10 with my team member discount but I think I'm going to either get a T-Mobile one or European S5. Idk I want to stay with Samsung but this whole locked phone thing is discouraging.
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I agree. Hopefully we will get an Root option (Maybe Kingo will come through again like with the Note 3) but their saying nobody has a root option for 4.4 on At&t phones. Don't see much talk about almost getting there as well. Chainfire was also saying that new Android firmware is about to start breaking root apps. 4.4.3 and on could be the start to the end of custom roms and root for Samsung devices (At&t). I too thought about going with an HTC device, I just love the S5's camera. I don't know what to think about these new phones man. It was so much fun installing and customizing our phones how we wanted to. Its sad and depressing watching these loved things go away. I'm not on my phone as much anymore.
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That's the only reason I kept and probably will keep my Nexus 5...
Colerunn said:
I might be speaking out of an uninformed thought here, but I'm concerned about our root status.
With the bounty being as high as it is, and me not being able to find anywhere that the Devs are collaborating, what are the odds it is taking so long (or even might NOT happen) because there is no developer collaboration for the insanely high bounty? I could be wrong, but I'm starting to wonder if that's the right way to go about it.
Then there's the concern that if we do achieve root, it'll be so late in the game that no one will be developing for our S5 at that point and will have moved on to another device.
Thoughts?
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I've seen maybe one or two times since I've been a member of XDA where a bounty worked achieve root or an unlocked bootloader. Honestly, I doubt many of the devs who work on that type of stuff bought an AT&T S5. If it was me, I would have gone T-Mobile or International, as I'm sure most have.
Also, as someone said above, not everyone pays their pledges. The longer a bounty lasts, the bigger chance people who have pledged early have moved on or are not following anymore. I'm willing to bet that if a bounty was close to 2K, the most a dev could hope for is maybe $500, if their lucky. That's still quite a bit of money, but no where near what was pledged. Past experiences dictate present actions.
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KennyG123 said:
These are legitimate concerns that should have you reevaluating your next purchase based on carrier and manufacturer. The goal is to make AT&T and Verizon phones secure enough for the military and business accounts. That is where the big bucks lie for those carriers. Sprint and T-mobile are more geared towards the average pedestrian with their lower price plans and limited coverage, therefore do not worry about locked bootloaders and super secure phones. Other manufacturers such as HTC provide unlock to those seeking it and root has been very easy.
As for developer discussions regarding root...you have seen what the bounty threads turn into...with all that bickering and name calling it is not conducive to a development environment, so those people actually hampered progress. I am sure discussions are going on in private in some IRC channel without the needless interruptions and constant requests for ETA and "Are we there yet." And as mentioned there is a lot more $$$ in the private sectors rather than claim a half bounty and have a free root available.
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The carriers should make separate phones for consumers and businesses. That would be great.
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The carriers should make separate phones for consumers and businesses. That would be great.
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Some do...sort of...they are called developer's editions and you usually have to wait a few months for their release.
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Some do...sort of...they are called developer's editions and you usually have to wait a few months for their release.
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Hey KennyG, I just got the s5 Active, will y'all be opening up a thread for that soon? Thanks
Colerunn said:
Welp, sounds like it's time for me to bite the bullet then. I'm thinking I'll post my phone to Craigslist as looking to sell or trade for a T-mobile version. Worse-comes-to-worst, I'll ebay the phone for what I can get, and pay out of pocket the difference for a new one.
Raises a new question: international version or just a different U.S. carrier's?
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MetroPCS S5 for $649+ $30 unlock code from cellunlocker-dot-net and you have a wide open west device ready for custom recovery/roms, the works. Also will be carrier unlocked and completely unbranded. Radio has all the LTE bands for TMO and ATT, LTE works. Was using Alliance Rom at the time.
I did sell mine and picked up an M8. Just prefer the feel in hand, 32GB (what was SEC thinking 16GB on a top tier device!) and of course the IPS LCD just looks better to my old, tired eyes than the SuperAMOLED+. Of course everyone's preferences are different.
If you're a night owl and prefer full darkness viewing the AMOLED displays can't be beat. Using LUX I was able to turn down the brightness to just about nothing and the contrast is still outstanding. LCDs (of course) wash out since they do have finite limits of contrast at low levels...
But in normal environments, wow, the IPS display looks spectacular...
In any case, expecting root on an ATT device these days is probably going to lead to major disappointment. Personally, I'd rather use an iOS device than a locked bootloader device (S4/S5).
When you're used to having the freedom of root and can no longer do the things you get used to it's like a punishment, having virtual shackles around your feet and expected to run a 10K on a day with 80 degree dewpoints. Oh yes and with a family of hungry black bears right behind you...
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Hey KennyG, I just got the s5 Active, will y'all be opening up a thread for that soon? Thanks
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Not really needed if it is just as locked down and basically same hardware will see how it goes.
How many of you are actually going to get the N4 and run stock on it? I'm considering pre-ordering, though I feel like I should wait until it gains root.
Better off preordering for the $200 samsung promo
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Better off preordering for the $200 samsung promo
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I didn't see anything about that on Tmo's upgrade site?
https://samsunggalaxypromotions.com/Note4/
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https://samsunggalaxypromotions.com/Note4/
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I have JUMP. This wouldn't make a difference for me lol
While I've always rooted my phones, I think the utility of doing so is shrinking all the time, and more so with the Note models because you lose the s-pen unless you use a stock ROM. I'm not going to wait for root.
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I have JUMP. This wouldn't make a difference for me lol
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Why not? I did.
hkbladelawhk said:
How many of you are actually going to get the N4 and run stock on it? I'm considering pre-ordering, though I feel like I should wait until it gains root.
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I am planning to run stock until the root is available, but even then I will most likely run stock-based ROMs. AOSP ROMs tend to not be stable and have broken features on Samsung devices. Nova launcher, Xposed, and some root requiring apps give me a perfect compromise.
I'm not a fan of AOSP roms either. I run Touchwiz roms. I haven't been stock in years.
I wonder how long before we'll see root on it. I'm definitely considering upgrading and running stock for the time being. The screen and camera upgrades look awesome.
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I am planning to run stock until the root is available, but even then I will most likely run stock-based ROMs. AOSP ROMs tend to not be stable and have broken features on Samsung devices. Nova launcher, Xposed, and some root requiring apps give me a perfect compromise.
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This is the route I might stick with this time around. I'm a current Galaxy S3 (ROM CM 11) owner and I expect that with the Note 4, a rooted stock ROM with Nova and Xposed would be best so I don't lose all enhancements. With the S3 the camera quality definitely took a hit.
My concern about Xposed is if we get Android L (down the road) and it's supposed to run in ART, Xposed won't work until it's updated and no idea when that'll be.
On the other hand, I've heard of some Note app alternatives but no app names ever mentioned.
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This is the route I might stick with this time around. I'm a current Galaxy S3 (ROM CM 11) owner and I expect that with the Note 4, a rooted stock ROM with Nova and Xposed would be best so I don't lose all enhancements. With the S3 the camera quality definitely took a hit.
My concern about Xposed is if we get Android L (down the road) and it's supposed to run in ART, Xposed won't work until it's updated and no idea when that'll be.
On the other hand, I've heard of some Note app alternatives but no app names ever mentioned.
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I also wonder about losing my unrestricted tethering. I tether to my tablet for work, and I feel like I'd destroy data on a stock rom.
hkbladelawhk said:
I have JUMP. This wouldn't make a difference for me lol
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How did u redeem through tmobile? I also per-order 2 note4.
So we as JUMP customers cannot get the $200 promo?
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AFourg said:
So we as JUMP customers cannot get the $200 promo?
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No, apparently not. I lucked out with it, but it seems they closed that workaround.
Well. I'm now pre ordered. Let's see if I keep the pre-order.
aooga said:
Why not? I did.
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Mind explaining how? Did you do so online?
I went onto my tmobile, upgraded/preordered using jump, signed my eip in browser window and everything n saw no options for getting trade in credit towards my eip balance.
How the crap do you get trade in credit towards a jump upgrade anyways? Doors it come off your eip balance? Before creating your payment(like down payment credit) so it finances a lower amount or just towards the next payment(finance the full 749 n just goes towards first $31 payment?)...
Please enlighten us, I'd enjoy $200 bucks in my pocket AND jumping for only tax up front..
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aooga said:
No, apparently not. I lucked out with it, but it seems they closed that workaround.
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Nmmm....
Still interested in how you skid by with it... online? Over the phone? In store?
p()()pypants said:
Mind explaining how? Did you do so online?
I went onto my tmobile, upgraded/preordered using jump, signed my eip in browser window and everything n saw no options for getting trade in credit towards my eip balance.
How the crap do you get trade in credit towards a jump upgrade anyways? Doors it come off your eip balance? Before creating your payment(like down payment credit) so it finances a lower amount or just towards the next payment(finance the full 749 n just goes towards first $31 payment?)...
Please enlighten us, I'd enjoy $200 bucks in my pocket AND jumping for only tax up front..
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Nmmm....
Still interested in how you skid by with it... online? Over the phone? In store?
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I ordered using the normal upgrade, then traded in the phone online. I then called and asked them to cancel the order then reorder with JUMP. It still kept the old trade in as well.
aooga said:
I ordered using the normal upgrade, then traded in the phone online. I then called and asked them to cancel the order then reorder with JUMP. It still kept the old trade in as well.
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I could see that still working if someone wanted to go through the trouble... they don't like to ever send anything back once you've sent it in.... so no choice but to give you the credit even if you cancel...
Did you get a credit receipt already?
p()()pypants said:
I could see that still working if someone wanted to go through the trouble... they don't like to ever send anything back once you've sent it in.... so no choice but to give you the credit even if you cancel...
Did you get a credit receipt already?
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I sent it to them late last week, so not yet.
Guys dont worry about running stock on the new N4. When you flash Tweaked rom, which is based off of stock Touchwiz, it will be the best phone experience you ever had. I promise.
After doing much reading and I'm getting ready to buy the GS6 edge but was wondering if anyone tried to root with cf root? Found this article on droid life
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/03/1...ready-for-the-t-mobile-galaxy-s6-and-s6-edge/
Neither S6 verizon variant has been rooted...yet. Look at Chainfire's repository, the Verizon S6 and S6 Edge are model number SM-G920V and SM-G925V respectively (and my S6 shipped with build LRX22G.G920VVRU1AOC3 for reference). All variants will be rooted eventually, we just have to be patient.
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Neither S6 verizon variant has been rooted...yet. Look at Chainfire's repository, the Verizon S6 and S6 Edge are model number SM-G920V and SM-G925V respectively (and my S6 shipped with build LRX22G.G920VVRU1AOC3 for reference). All variants will be rooted eventually, we just have to be patient.
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I wouldn't hold on to all variants being rooted and have your hopes up...
I forgot to look at chain fires repository. But it's all good , I can wait patiently
Same as well.
Hopefully they will come out with a way to root the phone soon.
I just upgraded from a Galaxy S3 which was rooted.
I must have ADAWAY!!!
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I wouldn't hold on to all variants being rooted and have your hopes up...
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Agreed. If the vzw edge isn't rooted in about 3 months, hello Swappa!
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markwebb said:
Agreed. If the vzw edge isn't rooted in about 3 months, hello Swappa!
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I certainly hope you didn't purchase your device assuming you would keep it only if it became rooted.
open1your1eyes0 said:
I certainly hope you didn't purchase your device assuming you would keep it only if it became rooted.
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Not necessarily: good secondary phone for camera especially. I got my unlocked multi carrier Nexus 6 to do all the fun stuff with.
Besides, with prediction of edge supply issues developing as it seems more popular than anticipated, always can get fair market value on swappa with minimal $$ loss.
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I certainly hope you didn't purchase your device assuming you would keep it only if it became rooted.
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Considering how long it takes the most recent Samsung devices on Verizon to get root (most don't at all) he might as well just return the phone now while it's within the 14 day return period. I can almost guarantee this phone won't get root, especially not within 3 months.
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Considering how long it takes the most recent Samsung devices on Verizon to get root (most don't at all) he might as well just return the phone now while it's within the 14 day return period. I can almost guarantee this phone won't get root, especially not within 3 months.
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Yup, probably not. The S5 users were crying their eyes out and only got root through Geohot. He's gone, so good luck with all of that...
Even if it doesn't get rooted there is always the possibility of a boot exploit being found and a custom pre-rooted Rom being made available.
Speaking of root...is it worth starting a bounty thread?
There's already one going in the AT&T Section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=3082549
The.Jericho.Initiative said:
There's already one going in the AT&T Section.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=3082549
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Chances are root on AT&T won't do anything for us. I just don't have time to keep up with the donations.
Well, it still makes more sense to have a single point of awareness for both carriers... More likely to garner the attention we are looking for. Besides like you said, you're not able to keep the tally but there is a thread over in AT&T that is. The Mods have said everyone can post there and the pledges will be separated by carrier.
Anyway, Imagonna Post a new thread with a link to the tread. in the Verizon S6 forum
The.Jericho.Initiative said:
Well, it still makes more sense to have a single point of awareness for both carriers... More likely to garner the attention we are looking for. Besides like you said, you're not able to keep the tally but there is a thread over in AT&T that is. The Mods have said everyone can post there and the pledges will be separated by carrier.
Anyway, Imagonna Post a new thread with a link to the tread. in the Verizon S6 forum
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I got ya, I didn't realize they were breaking up pledges between carriers over there. Since they're doing that, it definitely makes more sense to just have the one thread. I should have caught that, my bad.
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Chances are root on AT&T won't do anything for us. I just don't have time to keep up with the donations.
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chances are very high a root for an att device will work same for us.. they seem to both be locked down just the same..
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If you haven't heard...http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016
I have successfully rooted my galaxy s6 (g920v), using ping-pong root.
Just as the title says, I am looking to sell my verizon s6 edge on Swappa. I am undecided if I should take it back to stock or not before I list it. I feel like a huge amount of normal users may be scared away by the fact that it's rooted on oe2 with clean rom.
What do you guys think? I am wanting to get the 64 gig moto x pure so I can unlock the bootloader and have my way with it, so I think a $500 price for a mint phone would be fair, but I just don't want to scare away potential buyers.
Opinions??
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Just as the title says, I am looking to sell my verizon s6 edge on Swappa. I am undecided if I should take it back to stock or not before I list it. I feel like a huge amount of normal users may be scared away by the fact that it's rooted on oe2 with clean rom.
What do you guys think? I am wanting to get the 64 gig moto x pure so I can unlock the bootloader and have my way with it, so I think a $500 price for a mint phone would be fair, but I just don't want to scare away potential buyers.
Opinions??
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~90% of users do not even know what root means.
If you sell the phone to one of those users the buyer will likely panic and ask why every update is failing to install.
Your smartest move would be to unroot through Odin.
If the buyer wants root he/she can root.
Snowby123 said:
~90% of users do not even know what root means.
If you sell the phone to one of those users the buyer will likely panic and ask why every update is failing to install.
Your smartest move would be to unroot through Odin.
If the buyer wants root he/she can root.
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Actually, they couldn't root, because the latest update doesn't allow it. I guess I just hate to unroot a phone and render it unrootable because rooting is at the core of my nature, lol. I just have to remember it won't be mine to tinker with anymore, haha
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Actually, they couldn't root, because the latest update doesn't allow it. I guess I just hate to unroot a phone and render it unrootable because rooting is at the core of my nature, lol. I just have to remember it won't be mine to tinker with anymore, haha
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
This thread gives the appropriate firmware used to unroot.
Every time I use it, I am able to root again.
It restores the phone to the original factory settings, the OC3 build.
OC3 obviously can be rooted.
Snowby123 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6-edge/general/sm-g925f-s6-firmware-thread-t3078841
This thread gives the appropriate firmware used to unroot.
Every time I use it, I am able to root again.
It restores the phone to the original factory settings, the OC3 build.
OC3 obviously can be rooted.
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I got ya, that's a good Idea. I will just sell it on oc3. If they know what they are doing then they can take it from there.
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I got ya, that's a good Idea. I will just sell it on oc3. If they know what they are doing then they can take it from there.
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I totally agree. At least keep it on the rootable firmware. Its a smaller percentage of people who root, but many of those people use swappa. Its even an option for your listing. I have myself bought an mdk s4 just because it was the only place I could find the last vzw Samsung device with an unlocked bootloader. I payed more for it too, after mine broke. I would imagine those interested in a rootable s6 edge would probably do the same.
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When I sold my galaxy s4 the person buying the device wanted it to remain rooted, and paid extra for it. It all depends on the buyer.
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