[Q] Ram problem on C6902 - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Now i am using my C6902 with trinity rom and trinity kernel.
I discover that it is a little bit weird about the ram that system eats.
I have two devices that one is xperia z1 another is optimus g
both of them have 2 GB capacity of the ram
On optimus g , used ram is about 700 MB, 100+ apps installed will be fine
On xperia z1 ,used ram is always up to 1 GB or even up to 1.5 ~ 1.6 GB, same 100+ apps installed will cause lots of lags, launcher restarts , messenger apps not notification .......
I have tried to boot into the safe mode(disable any third party apps)
still see that a clean system USES 1.1 GB OF RAM!!!!
Is there any solution?

My Ram eat about 40~50% (400 apps) so check your setting on OOM Grouping, Minfree Value, bla bla bla.....You just set the wrong value....

1.1 - 1.3 GB used most time. I have 38 apps installed
Is this normal or not?

May I ask how to set it and what value should I set ?

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[Q] ram running low easily

i encountered a problem that my phone always have low ram even if i just started the phone and have not open any apps. the ram always used up above 200mb out of 304mb. and y is it the overall ram is 304mb instead of 512mb which is stated in the specs of sgs
Hi,
You need to have a look at applications and services.
Check what you running (for example livewallpaper is between 11-20MB, every widget using memory as well) it is the same with services, some of them are useless some of them are not.
From my experience 2.3.3 (without any super modding) using something like 100-120MB. I can tell you that with 3 email accounts (including exchange) and some widget my SGS have free 146MB.
Is hard to say what is causing lack of memory on your phone without knowing what is on it.
Regards,
R
I usually find that lack of ram is from apps running in the background.
I'd suggest getting TaskKiller or ZDBox to kill apps running in the background easily.
Aparently don't quote me I only ready this that the ram is on a flush when needed system I thought ram useage was high try playing game or browse net then kill them and check I found it dropped on jvk jva and now jvh not used jvb gave it a miss
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[q]Why SGS use 150MB of ram while xperia x10 use only 90MB?

game use more and more RAM, so... I noticed that wolf's rom on my father's x10 use only 80-90MB of ram....
... so Xperia got more free ram than SGS? Funny? NOT
I know I can't change it, but why Wolf's made damn light rom, and we got less free space?
Are the firmwares the same? Different firmware requires different amounts of RAM.
And yes, actually, there is something you can do about it. Check out the V6 Supercharger script. With that, you can change how much RAM the system keeps free.
I mean everything is closed. And yes I know the trick...
Still SGS with launcher took 120MB (fresh after flash) and 130-150MB after all Aps restore, SWYPE etc....
So clean Android here 130-150 with no apps running at background...
Xperia X10 I open setting, I did not clean any of apps, and Android took 88MB ...
It was surprise for me.
The worst part is that SGS got 512MB of total Memory vs 384MB. I got around 160MB free memory on Xperia vs 160-170mb free memory on SGS.
So only real possible way to increase free memory is to put to SGS Bigmem kernel that break 720p recording.
suntzu123 said:
I mean everything is closed. And yes I know the trick...
Still SGS with launcher took 120MB (fresh after flash) and 130-150MB after all Aps restore, SWYPE etc....
So clean Android here 130-150 with no apps running at background...
Xperia X10 I open setting, I did not clean any of apps, and Android took 88MB ...
It was surprise for me.
The worst part is that SGS got 512MB of total Memory vs 384MB. I got around 160MB free memory on Xperia vs 160-170mb free memory on SGS.
So only real possible way to increase free memory is to put to SGS Bigmem kernel that break 720p recording.
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Again, if you're talking about free RAM with no apps running, then you're talking about how much RAM the firmware is using. If you want your phone to always keep more RAM free than it currently does, you can use various tweaks to modify Android's memory management—such as the V6 Supercharger Script that I previously linked to. If this isn't sufficient, then you can flash a Froyo ROM (instead of a Gingerbread ROM), since Froyo uses less RAM.
If you're asking why Android on the Xperia device is using less RAM, I honestly have no idea. But it's likely due to a difference in firmware.
My froyo uses 240mb of ram with no apps active. Just some widgets like facebook,clock,callendar...So i guess your ok with 150mb.

General cleaning

If i flash my phone with flashtool , and then I will reinstall my GingerJHv5 will my phone works faster ???
Sorry for my english
just reflash the rom. it's like formating a pc it will run fast for the 1st week (give or take) then it will slow down, just like your phone will. so dont install tons of useless crap and it should be fine.
If you want your phone to work faster use Ti backup to uninstall or freeze useless apps. You should also try autokiller memory manager. Set it to aggressive if you are in need of ram.
PS: Dsp takes up a lot of ram. If you don't use it, uninstall or freeze it.
Freeze apps only with Titanium??
Tapnięto z mojej X8
Zbaraszek said:
Freeze apps only with Titanium??
Tapnięto z mojej X8
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Your X8 will never be FASTER. But, by OC, using app2sd, and Swapper2, you can optimize it so that it doesn't lag.
(Napisz co chcesz uzyskać, i do czego używasz najczęściej swoją X8, a napisze ci post z pełnymi instrukcjami jak dobrze zoptymalizować swoją x8'ke do danego celu)
I use only "traditionall" movment apps to SD by Setgings. It's good???
I want to improve my x8 for RAM, games, music and internet.
Tapnięto z mojej X8
CyanogenMod Settings
- CPU: min 320MHz, max 748MHz
- COMPCACHE RAM: 26%
- JIT: On
- SURFACE DITHERING: On
- 16bit TRANSPARNECY: On
- ASSET PURGING: On
- VM HEAP SIZE: 48m
Download Swapper2 from the market. It's free. Making a partition for it is not necessary.
After downloading Swapper2, launch the app, goto settings and set 'Swap Size' to 256MB, and 'Swappiness' to 10, and check the box next to 'Run Swapper at Start', then restart your phone. After it reboots, go to your TerminalEmulator app, and type free. It should show a line saying you have 300MB+ of RAM, with XXMB's used, and XXXMB's free.
App to SD instructions:
- Move to SD the apps which you use the least.
- Do not move to SD apps you use to customize your ROM with.
- Do not move to SD apps which you use the most.
Use a Cache Cleaner. Plenty of them on the market. I use AppCacheCleaner
Use Supercharger if you play games on your X8. It might help.
Here's some facts about RAM, CPU usage and why YOU SHOULDN'T USE TASK KILLERS.
That's it.
If your X8 is still slow, then save some cash, and get a Sony Xperia S... I can't wait to get mine....
The last advice is very helpful Oc 340MHz is goos for battery?
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Zbaraszek said:
The last advice is very helpful Oc 340MHz is goos for battery?
Tapnięto z mojej X8
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Battery drain is always a problem, especially with Ultra-Brightness and Wi-Fi.
You can always try different minimum CPU speeds and different CPU managers, but, on some ROM's with Android 2.3, you will almost always encounter screen lag, unless you raise your minimum to 320MHz.
Your phone will not reach the maximum speeds, unless you're playing some demanding games, or, have various app's running while engaging the phone, GPS, or Wi-Fi. Almost always it's running at below 40% speeds.
What about GingerCM???
Tapnięto z mojej X8
Better to disable SURFACE DITHERING if 16Bit transparency is ON
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faraz_fireboy said:
Better to disable SURFACE DITHERING if 16Bit transparency is ON
Sent from my E15i
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Better or not, is a matter of opinion. One doesn't interfere with the other, and both deal with separate issues.

RAM Usage - my last phone with 1gb?

Hey,
i want to discuss the RAM usage by apps especially on our RAZR i.
In the past few weeks i realized my phone was getting slower and slower, it's not nearly as fluent as it was once. It always kills apps when it shouldn't, WhatsApp doesn't run reliable etc (sometimes i get notifications MUCH later than i should and only after opening the app). Well, i have ~70mb RAM left.
Now comes the funny part, i don't think i use that much unnecessary apps. I don't play games, delete not used apps regulary. Easy Uninstaller shows me 96 apps (and yes, this is an unnecessary app, but it makes cleaning the phone much more comfortable - so it is allowed to stay)
So what kills the RAM?
Facebook Service - can't kill - 50mb
SRT AppGuard - to kill Facebooks GPS and Location sniffers - 25mb
Dropbox - Camera Upload - 34mb
Then there is some other stuff like WhatsApp, PowerAmp Service, Maps, which consume ~80mb in total.
Now here comes a special list:
Light Flow - 45mb
Nova Launcher - 60mb
3G Watchdog - 30mb
Lux - finally lowered auto brightness - 24mb
Smart WiFi Toggler - 27mb
SwiftKey - 63mb
Whats on that list? Basically everything i NEED to make the phone run the way it's intended to. This consumes 240mb of RAM. And those are all features that should be implemented into Android (WiFi Toggler, Lux, Light Flow) or run because the original is so bad that i can't stand it (Nova Launcher instead of stock alone because of homescreen alignment, 3G Watchdog [no prediction / clarity in stock monitor], SwiftKey).
Then there's the Moto stuff you can't deactivate:
SmartActions - 40mb
MotoCare (?) - 42mb
This is basically my RAM usage i can't get rid off. I am constantly suffering Android quitting apps when it shouldn't, even when i only switch between Opera / Chrome and Adobe Reader and stay in one app a bit too long it quits the other one. Even my old Desire HD - which had 768mb of RAM - did not do that, admittedly with a great AOKP rom.
How do you handle your RAM usage? Do you have remotely as much problems as i have to handle 1gb? I don't know what i could do to reduce my RAM usage. My new tablet, a Note 10.1, makes it feel even worse as everything runs so perfect, you just know that's the best that 4.1 will ever be. Right now, i have 700mb left. I never care about RAM usage and the best thing is, when i open an app i sometimes find out it was still running in the background, it instantly appears on the screen. The Moto needs a lot longer for it now and you feel it's an overloaded phone..
i got the same problems lol
thats why im looking for an app that kills apps that i no longer need in the moment and just restarts them when i need them (something like IOS does)
anyway some apps that you are using does not use as much ram in my phone
AW: RAM Usage - my last phone with 1gb?
Use Greenify to hibernate Apps if they are not in use. Works great here :thumbup:
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I guess it would be the perfect solution.. If I was rooted. I don't want to do it yet, I have to send it in because of the auxiliary port not working properly and I am only waiting for any friend to buy a new android so I could borrow his while the RAZR I is being repaired. But finally, thank you, I found a proper reason why I should root my phone. Maybe I'll try the app on my rooted note 10.1 even though I will never need it just to find out how it likes my apps.
I use an app called Fast Reboot Pro. It restarts all running apps to release memory. Doing this once a day keeps my phone slick. I recommend you try it. :thumbup:
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If you don't use SmartActions then you can disable it in the app menu. Should help a tiny bit!
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kkh786 said:
I use an app called Fast Reboot Pro. It restarts all running apps to release memory. Doing this once a day keeps my phone slick. I recommend you try it. :thumbup:
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I just installed Fast Reboot and it really does make a lot of difference. In one click of a button everything was like I just turned the phone off and on but it all happened within a second so much more conveniant. And you don't have to be rooted for it to work either.
I'll try this for a few days then buy the pro version.
Where the app menu to disable smart actions?
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ultim said:
Where the app menu to disable smart actions?
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Go into settings\apps\all apps
Find SmartActions in the list and click on it
If disable button is greyed out then you'll need to uninstall the updates first otherwise just click disable button at the top right.
Oops. I've accumulated 150 apps (need some editing), and run smartactions on my Razr i with, to my surpise, no noticeable slow-down or difficulty swopping between apps on my phone. I'm rooted, so Android firewall disables most of then when running on mobile data (with background data also disabled) but on wi-fi at home and work they all run - 845 RAM being used at the mo - 32 processes running. WiFi off at night though, one running app puts flight mode on. I usually do a manual reboot once a week, just to give the phone a break.
You should instal Pi-Lama 0.3 Most of the Motorola's bloatware are gone together with Blur stuff.
Mh .. I will send it in in maybe 3 weeks. When i get it back fixed, i think i'll do it. What i don't get about most phones on the market is that their hardware is really great but the customized Android is just awful. I don't get it.. Admittedly the Motorola UI is not that bad, but i prefer the stock android look. I find that only Samsung does a good job in customizing their software. Every other UI is unpractical, drains the battery or looks bad (my opinion) ..
I dont know how your Note tablet performs, but my GS3 was awful price to performance, it is neck and neck with the moto razr i and the moto is faster in single-running apps environment because of its very high clock and bandwith of the cpu. However, flipboard used 89mb and touchwiz thing used more than 120mb in total so, no cheers there.
No android customization is good enough. Most of them are pretty but not good enough. What's more, the GS3 died after 3 days, and no engenieer could explain it (sorry for bad level of english), it just died...
Regarding RAM issue, moto services, all in all, use 101mb as i calculated and non-stoppable servicies such as maps location, fb location, whats app service and so on takes up as much as 220mb (a bit less, but just rounding out numbers)
My entire RAM usage is of about +-600mb of 970mb. However, i use a VPN and intra-network app for my work and that eats up another 150mb adding swype and some other things such as ftp servers i get up to 800mb used and it doesnt lag but IT DOES close apps by itself. The GS3 did it too, but its multicore could open them a bit faster when more than 2 or 3 were already running.
Stock JB...around 500-600MB free...
I'm using latest Omar Rom and greenify, about 60 apps installed. When I kill all apps I've got:
Available: 475 MB
Inactive: 175 MB
Which gives me 650MB free RAM (avail and inactive is in fact free). Unfortunately it does't mean anything. Phone is'n as fast as I would like it to be, android is amazingly ****ty optimized. My previous phone (btw Defy) have had 512MB RAM and single core CPU - and with android GB (CM7) speed was comparable - apps were smaller and less "memory hungry" than on ICS or JB.
I'm too thinking about 2GB of RAM in phone (maybe XIAOMI MI2).
adddaamo said:
I'm using latest Omar Rom and greenify, about 60 apps installed. When I kill all apps I've got:
Available: 475 MB
Inactive: 175 MB
Which gives me 650MB free RAM (avail and inactive is in fact free). Unfortunately it does't mean anything. Phone is'n as fast as I would like it to be, android is amazingly ****ty optimized. My previous phone (btw Defy) have had 512MB RAM and single core CPU - and with android GB (CM7) speed was comparable - apps were smaller and less "memory hungry" than on ICS or JB.
I'm too thinking about 2GB of RAM in phone (maybe XIAOMI MI2).
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I'm really curious, What exactly do you need your phone do faster than it do right now?
I never see any Android Phone run faster than my razr i, the only problem is compatibility with some apps, and lack of development.
( i had a defy too, and you really can't compare defy with razr i)
diogo.sena said:
I'm really curious, What exactly do you need your phone do faster than it do right now?
I never see any Android Phone run faster than my razr i, the only problem is compatibility with some apps, and lack of development.
( i had a defy too, and you really can't compare defy with razr i)
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Heh, I've overclocked defy to 1300MHz, with CM and minimalist theme it worked really great
I want an android phone with constant 60FPS and instant startup of apps. Now on RazrI it takes couple seconds for Chrome to became operational - where it should be instantaneous, switching between big apps also lags from time to time.
adddaamo said:
Heh, I've overclocked defy to 1300MHz, with CM and minimalist theme it worked really great
I want an android phone with constant 60FPS and instant startup of apps. Now on RazrI it takes couple seconds for Chrome to became operational - where it should be instantaneous, switching between big apps also lags from time to time.
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who said razr i wont run at 60fps?
to me, chrome is fast enough but stock browser is even faster.. (new opera mobile beta is using webkit too and seems good)
funny thing that you mentioned browsers, cause razr i is by far the best smartphone in any javascript benchmark
i agree that is not optimal for games, but is a great smartphone.
Hi, so I bought mina XT890 two months ago, and currently I habe 98MB of free RAM. I have disabled a lot of Motorola apps, and I think that 98mb of free RAM is too short for a 1GB phone... I guess there is something wrong, some stuff being used underground and I can't see it. My GF has a S3 Mini, and the RAM usage is much better. She has more apps and games than I do...
godoy.rafa said:
Hi, so I bought mina XT890 two months ago, and currently I habe 98MB of free RAM. I have disabled a lot of Motorola apps, and I think that 98mb of free RAM is too short for a 1GB phone... I guess there is something wrong, some stuff being used underground and I can't see it. My GF has a S3 Mini, and the RAM usage is much better. She has more apps and games than I do...
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Do not observe how much free RAM do you have. Just compare how this phone works. It's really Fast and reacts immediatelly even you see only 98MB free RAM. It's much more better than S3 mini.
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What's you free ram?

our moto g 2 has 851MB of usable ram (1GB fisical, about 150 MB is occupied by the OS...right?), and i have about 280-320 MB of free Ram with a normal use, sometimes there are only 220 MB so the phone go laggy
opening "advanced task manager" i see that in backgrund there are Nova Launcher (41 MB), Whatsapp (55), Google Search (23), Google Keyboard (33 MB), Play store (15) and other 5 apps that occupy in total 20 MB...so all the apps named now occupy in total about 220MB
I've also a nexus 7 2012, that has at least 480 free MB, but sometime over 550
why these devices are so different? the nexus 7 doesn't have the phone function but the difference is too high!
my friend has a cubot with 1GB of ram, normally 450-500 free...
has my phone something wrong?
PS:sorry for my english, i'm italian and I don't speek/write it very well
PPS:it's the first message of this account but i've another account but i forgot the password of it and also the password of his email :/
In my moto g 1st gen i always have 400 plus ram now in 2nd gen my free never go above of 250 even I disable all Motorola app which run in background.btw same app installed in both phone.I have to say multitasking is poor then 1st gen.
maybe with the next updates they will fix this issue...or maybe with a cyano
I am on 21.11.23 thuis is screenshot from memory
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i opened another thread about the ram, because i found a strange bug about the ram
you find it there
when you open the camera it occupy 80MB, but when you close it the 80MB remains in the ram so you have less free memory until you restart the device.
Have you guys checked how much Motorola bloatware are in the RAM?
1. Motorola notification
2. Audio Effects
3. MotoCare
4. Emergency Alerts
It all takes up precious RAM.
CANADOS said:
Have you guys checked how much Motorola bloatware are in the RAM?
1. Motorola notification
2. Audio Effects
3. MotoCare
4. Emergency Alerts
It all takes up precious RAM.
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Any idea, what does Motorola Notification do?
check how much ram the camera take, simply boot the phone, check how much free ram do you have, next open the camera, close it and check how much ram do you have....it takes about 80MB even if it is closed.
impressive....
Lets hope they will fix it with Lollipop... or flashing a custom rom like cm 11
with normal usage free ram is 320-330 MB
With Greenify root and closing all I have between 300-400 MB of free RAM
Im using:
ROM: Andro X
Kernel: Furnace-1.1.0
Mod: Nitro X 4.1

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