64-bit software development - HTC Desire 510

I just ordered the 510 from a German Ebay reseller to get a jump on Android ARMv8 64-bit optimization. The specs aren't terribly important since it's going to spend its life tethered to my PC on my desk. I think as a budget Android device, the Moto G is a much better choice, but being the first 64-bit device available, I had to buy it. Hopefully some of the clever people on XDA can figure out how to root it and get Android L running in 64-bit mode before HTC gets around to doing it.

Wheres the development?
bitbank said:
I just ordered the 510 from a German Ebay reseller to get a jump on Android ARMv8 64-bit optimization. The specs aren't terribly important since it's going to spend its life tethered to my PC on my desk. I think as a budget Android device, the Moto G is a much better choice, but being the first 64-bit device available, I had to buy it. Hopefully some of the clever people on XDA can figure out how to root it and get Android L running in 64-bit mode before HTC gets around to doing it.
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I have seen no development for the 64bit model what so ever

There is a kernal available to download that allows root access. The thread is clearly headed 64 bit root. And of course it is easy enough to unlock the boot loader. All we need now is a recovery so roms can be flashed

Beshnazzle said:
I have seen no development for the 64bit model what so ever
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There is most definitely a user or two working on the 64TWRP image. Use this as a learning experience and try building yourself. Google is your friend.

Beshnazzle said:
I have seen no development for the 64bit model what so ever
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No worries. I needed to get going on ARMv8 development, so I got a Nexus 9 and iPad mini 2. At this point, the HTC 510 working in 64-bit mode will just be to satisfy my curiosity about how slow the QC410 is compared to the Apple A7 and NVidia K1 Denver.

64Bit TWRP Recovery
dipspit said:
There is most definitely a user or two working on the 64TWRP image. Use this as a learning experience and try building yourself. Google is your friend.
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I am very young so i probaly wouldnt be very good at creating a TWRP recovery.img also have no idea where to start or what i need to get started..
normally these days you can never get a straight answer
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bitbank said:
No worries. I needed to get going on ARMv8 development, so I got a Nexus 9 and iPad mini 2. At this point, the HTC 510 working in 64-bit mode will just be to satisfy my curiosity about how slow the QC410 is compared to the Apple A7 and NVidia K1 Denver.
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So you arent developing a TWRP image for the 64 Bit, this is honestly ridiculous its been so long and only 32bit has a recovery why wont anyone make a recovery for the 64bit right now iwish i had the 32 bit

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Windows 8 on the Touchpad?

Hey Guys!!!
I've read threads here and there about porting Windows 8 into the Touchpad, but I want to have as many answers as possible in one single thread.
Will it be possible in the future?
What obstacles will the devs find porting it?
I know this website is big in Android development but I want to see different options
licensing
unless microsoft starts selling windows 8 licences for ARM devices (meaning by itself, not pre-installed in a device), porting windows 8 to another devices that doesn't already come with it would be considered piracy.
it is possible to have development to figure out a way for windows 8 to install on this device...but it's not gonna include windows 8 binaries.
I guess these threads need to be merged. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1229307
Per that thread they say the biggest issue is the drivers.
why wouldn't MS sell it?
I heard somewhere MS will have an ARM version of next gen of windows
its 89 gogogogogoogggggg
no luck.........................any success???
If I'm not mistaken there's a leaked version of the ARM Windows 8
Again a bit more info here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1229307
bassrebel said:
If I'm not mistaken there's a leaked version of the ARM Windows 8
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here's an article about the Windows 8 ARM-version leak:
markdanielmiller said:
here's an article about the Windows 8 ARM-version leak:
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well...strike that. i can't post external links yet in forums here because i'm too much of a XDA newb
but if you simply Google "ARM Windows 8 leak"...you can find articles about the leak and such...
realdreams said:
why wouldn't MS sell it?
I heard somewhere MS will have an ARM version of next gen of windows
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I think what the point was, that MS has 2 options:
Sell the OS as a standalone or sell the OS to OEMs and the OEMs sell the product.
If the latter is the case, you cannot legally install it on something else, that would break the EULA.
Drivers would also probably be an issue, but it's hard to tell until we know what hardware is running Windows 8 whenever it comes out. It's possible that it'll be a non-issue.
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why wouldn't MS sell it?
I heard somewhere MS will have an ARM version of next gen of windows
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Simple,no one would buy it. Chances are,it will be shipped by OEMs with their hardware with custom hardware abstraction layers,if its on consumer devices at all. There is a school of thought that its going to be only for servers. The idea is that taking into account cooling,a rack full of arm servers will have vastly greater performance than a rack full of Intel chips because they can be packed denser. Still,it probably wont be generic,but tied to the particular hardware. It also solves a lot of piracy issues. You cant pirate the software because you cant buy the hardware without buying the software.
It also would give them a leg up on Linux servers. While there COULD be Linux versions ported to the hardware, the manufacturer would probably not give you ANY hardware support,any more than HTC will support Honeycomb on an EVO. They would market it as an appliance rather than a fully configurable server.
There currently are not hardware standards or BIOS/EFI standards for arm that I know of,so a generic version is not possible and I am not optimistic that it will be. Until those things are spelled out there wont be generic hardware like there is with Intel/AMD.
realdreams said:
why wouldn't MS sell it?
I heard somewhere MS will have an ARM version of next gen of windows
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For the same reason that Tablet/Phone makers don't sell devices without an OS. Embedded devices (As the name implies) are supposed to be tied to a single OS.
If you happen to have an MSDN account, you can generally find things such as embedded windows version there. Windows 8 will probably be there as well for ARM. However the biggest problem I think would be hardware working out with it.
ARM for Servers is definitly an option, but MS would be stupid not to offer it to consumers in Laptops and tablets as well.
Currently most tables use ARM and having an Intel x86 in there would not be good for the battery life, ARM is definitly a good option for tablets.
Also Windows 8 will not load Explorer by default, so it will be more power efficient on tablets since it only loads and shows that new Tile (codename was Wind if I'm not mistaken) interface.
It has been demo'ed already on ARM based tablets, if you look at the demo videos on youtube they explicitly mention ARM tablets, and a large part of their plan for Windows 8 is to get onto the ARM based consumer device market.
I agree with posters above though, the ARM version will probably only come through OEM channels. OEMs will probably need to create/tailor a bootloader for their hardware, and preconfigure the OS with the relevant drivers etc.
The best hope for a port will be if an OEM uses hardware close enough that porting their bootloader will be possible and the relevant drivers can be grabbed somewhere. I'm hoping the driver situation will be helped by MS bundling enough generic drivers to get it to run first and that updated/specific drivers can be installed later.
finalhit said:
licensing
unless microsoft starts selling windows 8 licences for ARM devices (meaning by itself, not pre-installed in a device), porting windows 8 to another devices that doesn't already come with it would be considered piracy.
it is possible to have development to figure out a way for windows 8 to install on this device...but it's not gonna include windows 8 binaries.
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I dont think Microsoft licensed WP7 for the HD2
Anyone at the Microsoft Build conference in Cali? They are giving devs a Windows8 Tablet.. or so I heard.
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I know nothing about development, but figure if the right devs got interested, it should be possible. I'm watching the build demo, and they had win8 running on a a 3yr old netbook, only using like 270mb of RAM. I know drivers will be an issue, but... anything is possible, right?
Maybe I'm being a little too optimistic.
Windows 8 developer preview
Microsoft has announced that it's releasing windows 8 to developers later this week. My question is how simple will it be to get it on the touchpad? Sorry if I've been vague. On my phone and just saw the post on Engadget.
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[Q] Hp Touchpad running Windows 8?

I recently got my hands on Hp Touchpad 32gb. And I have been running windows 8 preview on another pc. I know that the windows 8 Market will be here in a couple months. And since I would love to use my touchpad at work to edit my office files kind of like what im able to do on my Windows Phone. I guess my question is am I alone in wanting to port Windows 8 to the Touchpad? Im not sold on the adroid port.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20302829&postcount=2
Windows 8 for HP Touchpad
No you are not alone. I would love to have Windows 8 on my HP Touch pad.
I would love to see it, but it may be very hard to port with it only being sold on shipped devices. Realize that what desktops run and what is sold on discs is either a 32 bit or 64 bit Intel x86/64 based version. What the Touchpad needs is the ARM version.
spunker88 said:
I would love to see it, but it may be very hard to port with it only being sold on shipped devices. Realize that what desktops run and what is sold on discs is either a 32 bit or 64 bit Intel x86/64 based version. What the Touchpad needs is the ARM version.
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Why anyone would want a resource hog like Windows on a tablet of any kind is beyond me. But it isn't going to happen anyway. MS has made it quite clear that the ARM version of Win8 will be strictly limited to devices that are manufactured to run ONLY Win8. Any port to devices like the Touchpad would be illegal and wouldn't pass activation.
BTW, this has been dicussed and debunked time and time again. If you had done a simple search of "Windows 8", you would know this.
lewmur said:
Why anyone would want a resource hog like Windows on a tablet of any kind is beyond me. But it isn't going to happen anyway. MS has made it quite clear that the ARM version of Win8 will be strictly limited to devices that are manufactured to run ONLY Win8. Any port to devices like the Touchpad would be illegal and wouldn't pass activation.
BTW, this has been dicussed and debunked time and time again. If you had done a simple search of "Windows 8", you would know this.
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legal... lol. hackers unite!
Windows 8 will not hog resources like android does
This would be great. After using Win8 preview I thought it would be great on a touch screen. I liked it so much I ordered a WP7.5. BTW just but any software can be cracked.
hyperfire21 said:
Windows 8 will not hog resources like android does
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Oh, really? Why do you think that?
Tilde88 said:
legal... lol. hackers unite!
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This is a "developer's" forum, not a "blackhat" one. Read the forum rules.
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hyperfire21 said:
Windows 8 will not hog resources like android does
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Windows not a resource hog? Get real!
It has a much better multitasking system than android. Of course i'm talking about the mobile OS version of Windows 8 and not the x86,x64 versions. Why dont u go to the microsoft store and pick up a free windows phone 7 device and try it out for yourselves.
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Oh, really? Why do you think that?
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I can tell you I have been running Windows 8 both desktop and server versions since early closed beta and it is easily the leanest and most resource-efficient Windows yet. With only 1GB of RAM it flies and the server runs very well with 2GB.
Availability of ARM version will be strictly controlled though (as was already said) and activation will be pretty much unbreakable.
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Availability of ARM version will be strictly controlled though (as was already said) and activation will be pretty much unbreakable.
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that's what they said about WP7 and we still got it flashed on the hd2
I would gladly pay for a utility that will format my TouchPad and install Windows 8 on ARM. Even if that means losing ICS and webOS. I think Microsoft has an audience here of TP users that could be doing their RC testing for ARM. If they provided an easy legal way, even at a cost (provided it was for a real license, not a RC that expires), I think a lot of Tablet users would switch to W8. And the TP must be the biggest community of powerful enough hardware, with users willing to experiment on their device.
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quarlow said:
I think Microsoft has an audience here of TP users that could be doing their RC testing for ARM.
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It is an interesting idea. I think the TP is powerful enough, it is open, and it ticks the minimum requirements, although I am not sure whether it has the right CPU, graphics and hardware components. The display is a bit on the odd side (4:3 is rare, and 1024x768 especially so), and I would be surprised if Microsoft actually does anything like this.
But I would be happy to give it a try. On the desktop I can't find a reason to go with Windows 8, but on a mobile device it would look quite good.
I doubt MS would do this, we'd need a port from one of the WP8 tabs coming out this summer.
I'm sure if MS came out and said, pay a small fee and we'll license you an ARM version of Windows 8 for the Touchpad, people would jump.
I Am Marino said:
I'm sure if MS came out and said, pay a small fee and we'll license you an ARM version of Windows 8 for the Touchpad, people would jump.
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They just would never do that. They only license it to actual manufacturers, the same idea went around with the WP7 for HD2 ports, but they'd never license it to individuals, we'll just have to port it.
I'm not sure if I understand why everyone thinks it will be a good idea to put Windows 8 on the Touchpad. Here are my thoughts:
1. Drivers will drive us crazy. There will have to be new drivers created for video, audio, bluetooth, etc. None of these exist currently, so it will basically be like starting all over again. Remember how long it took to get the Android drivers running? Some of them STILL aren't perfect.
2. Since the device is using an ARM chip, only ARM compiled apps will work. It's not like you are going to be able to load your standard x86 Windows apps on the Touchpad if Windows 8 is on it. The amount of ARM apps for Windows 8 is less than what the Blackberry Market has. (which isn't much. )
3. Chances are, we are going to have to completely format the Touchpad if we want to put Windows 8 on it. This removes any possible way of going back to webOS or Android if we want. I, for one, would not like that at all. As far as co-existing... I doubt that would work due to the nature of the file system as it is now.
It's fun to think that this will happen someday, but I'm not holding my breath.
reverendkjr said:
I'm not sure if I understand why everyone thinks it will be a good idea to put Windows 8 on the Touchpad. Here are my thoughts:
1. Drivers will drive us crazy. There will have to be new drivers created for video, audio, bluetooth, etc. None of these exist currently, so it will basically be like starting all over again. Remember how long it took to get the Android drivers running? Some of them STILL aren't perfect.
2. Since the device is using an ARM chip, only ARM compiled apps will work. It's not like you are going to be able to load your standard x86 Windows apps on the Touchpad if Windows 8 is on it. The amount of ARM apps for Windows 8 is less than what the Blackberry Market has. (which isn't much. )
3. Chances are, we are going to have to completely format the Touchpad if we want to put Windows 8 on it. This removes any possible way of going back to webOS or Android if we want. I, for one, would not like that at all. As far as co-existing... I doubt that would work due to the nature of the file system as it is now.
It's fun to think that this will happen someday, but I'm not holding my breath.
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1) hopefully most drivers will work out of the box, since you know they are going to make Win8 arm for a snapdragon SoC, maybe not this exact chip, but a dual-core snapdragon probably, they were also using TouchPads to pilot win8 arm, so if we can get a leaked build we'll be ok. If the drivers don't work and it's too much of a hassle then that's just how it is. We've still got ICS and JellyBean
2) that's fine, but there are going to be so many awesome win8 arm apps, just think of all the WP7 apps plus a lot more, it will be really awesome.
3) Not necessarily. Remember the same thing was thought of on WP7 on the HD2, but what the DFT team did was create a totally separate yaffs2 partition and write Android NAND and WP7 to that, so you could still operate the bootloader to load another OS from the sd card and dual-boot that way. Since this thing rocks 16gb nand, I don't see why some whiz dev couldn't just repartition and format a specific partition for win8 then the bootloader decides where to boot, hence 8 gigs for Win8, 8 gigs for Android, etc... or something of the sort. I think it's possible.
Like you, I'm not holding my breath, but I actually love how well CM9 currently runs on this tablet to keep it only for that, Win8 for arm port would just be a really amazing treat on top if it ever happens.

[Q] Efforts to Hack WP8 on WP7 Handsets?

Is there anyone planning on trying to hack Windows Phone 8 on to Windows Phone 7 handsets? I'd like to get WP8, but I also want to wait to see if there's a Surface Phone announced in the next six months, so I don't want to spend a ton of money on an off-contract Lumia 920 right now.
I'd check if the hardware is up to it ,ice the ram.
The reason they are not being updated I understand is due to the hardware restrictions. They must know a lot of owners are very fed up and would surely update if they could as its a PR disaster for them
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howard bamber said:
I'd check if the hardware is up to it ,ice the ram.
The reason they are not being updated I understand is due to the hardware restrictions. They must know a lot of owners are very fed up and would surely update if they could as its a PR disaster for them
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Well I'm suspecting it may be possible because the HTC HD2 can run Windows Phone 7. I think it may be a bit slow and whatever, but I'd bet it's possible.
revxx14 said:
Well I'm suspecting it may be possible because the HTC HD2 can run Windows Phone 7. I think it may be a bit slow and whatever, but I'd bet it's possible.
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The HTC HD2 has exactlly the same chipset on board as the first wave of WP7 handsets used (Qualcomm Snapdragon S1 - QSD 8x50).
Contrary to this WP8 devices all feature at least Dual-Core Snapdragon S4 Chips, while the strongest WP7.5 devices have a Single Core Snapdragon S2 (MSM8255T). The RAM is actually a much smaller problem, given that entry level WP8 devices have 512 MB, same as most WP7 devices.
The hardware should be able to run WIndows 8 without much problems.
The big obstacle ahead is the lack of drivers. We need to create drivers for our chipsets and hack them into Windows Phone 8. We should be able to remove some features that require the dual core processors and other hardware aspects like NFC or secure bot.
But i don't think this will be necessary, as the 7.8 update will do pretty much that and we won't have to bother about it.
Idk about other OEMs, but Nokia is determined to bring as many WP8 features as possible. We probably won't get a file manager and real multitasking, but that is not a big issue.
The HTC 8s has single core and almost the same resolution as 2nd generation wp handsets
mcosmin222 said:
We should be able to remove some features that require the dual core processors
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Ha-ha it's impossible without source code. Or you can easily do it using only assembler?
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But i don't think this will be necessary, as the 7.8 update will do pretty much that and we won't have to bother about it.
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WP7.8 is using wince kernel while wp8 is using NT. They have different API.
2Topicstarter : The answer is NO. WP7 was ported to HD2 and TG01 only because they have the same hardware (SoC and Radio). If you want to use WP8 - buy new phone. Same to android.
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The HTC 8s has single core and almost the same resolution as 2nd generation wp handsets
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It has dual core.
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Useless guy said:
Ha-ha it's impossible without source code. Or you can easily do it using only assembler?
WP7.8 is using wince kernel while wp8 is using NT. They have different API.
2Topicstarter : The answer is NO. WP7 was ported to HD2 and TG01 only because they have the same hardware (SoC and Radio). If you want to use WP8 - buy new phone. Same to android.
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Whats the catch with the kernel? I'm talking about the features in windows phone 8 that wp 7.8 will bring. The kernel really has nothing to do with those, if they really want to bring em. As i said, we wouldn't get real multitasking, NFC and Directx games(if nokia really wants it, directx can be fixed too).
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It has dual core.
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Whats the catch with the kernel? I'm talking about the features in windows phone 8 that wp 7.8 will bring. The kernel really has nothing to do with those, if they really want to bring em. As i said, we wouldn't get real multitasking, NFC and Directx games(if nokia really wants it, directx can be fixed too).
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Quoting:
The hardware should be able to run WIndows 8 without much problems.
The big obstacle ahead is the lack of drivers. We need to create drivers for our chipsets and hack them into Windows Phone 8. We should be able to remove some features that require the dual core processors and other hardware aspects like NFC or secure bot.
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Maybe I'm drunk (cause I'm from Russia) and unable to read this.
You are drunk
About 7.8: I don't want a kernel change in 7.8 It won't happen. But we will get as many features of windows 8 as our hardware can handle.
Reverse engineering WP8 will do the same. The only advantage it might have over 7.8 is that we will run directx games. The huge disadvantage is that we need to get the source code, hack drivers for our hardware in it, disable the windows phone 8 specific stuff that our hardware does not support. I don't really see such huge benefit in doing it. We are better off waiting for 7.8 instead, which will bring pretty much the same (sans the directx games).
That's what i wanted to say. Sorry I didn't make it clear enough. My bad
That is never going to be possible!!
cant u see the size of the ROMS?
1GB- 1.31 GB
they will never get half the OS on our WP7 nands!
mcosmin222 : mate i meant by the size of the ROMs we download for flashing.
a lumia 800 rom around 320 MB and lumia 820 around 1.2 GB
so the matter of content maybe much larger while talking about porting..
surya467 said:
That is never going to be possible!!
cant u see the size of the ROMS?
1GB- 1.31 GB
they will never get half the OS on our WP7 nands!
lOL! XD
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LOLWUT?
The current WP7.5 OS is about 2 GB size.
The smallest WP device is 4GB i think.
So you do the math.
And if you meant RAM, the OS uses around 130 mb.
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You are drunk
About 7.8: I don't want a kernel change in 7.8 It won't happen. But we will get as many features of windows 8 as our hardware can handle.
Reverse engineering WP8 will do the same. The only advantage it might have over 7.8 is that we will run directx games. The huge disadvantage is that we need to get the source code, hack drivers for our hardware in it, disable the windows phone 8 specific stuff that our hardware does not support. I don't really see such huge benefit in doing it. We are better off waiting for 7.8 instead, which will bring pretty much the same (sans the directx games).
That's what i wanted to say. Sorry I didn't make it clear enough. My bad
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Ok, I finally understood
Useless guy said:
Ha-ha it's impossible without source code. Or you can easily do it using only assembler?
WP7.8 is using wince kernel while wp8 is using NT. They have different API.
2Topicstarter : The answer is NO. WP7 was ported to HD2 and TG01 only because they have the same hardware (SoC and Radio). If you want to use WP8 - buy new phone. Same to android.
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I have WP8 source code. The drivers are *.sys files. Porting could be possible.
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I have WP8 source code.
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The drivers are *.sys files. Porting could be possible.
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D: D: D:
sianto1997 said:
I have WP8 source code. The drivers are *.sys files. Porting could be possible.
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WHAT? how...tell meeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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surya467 said:
That is never going to be possible!!
cant u see the size of the ROMS?
1GB- 1.31 GB
they will never get half the OS on our WP7 nands!
mcosmin222 : mate i meant by the size of the ROMs we download for flashing.
a lumia 800 rom around 320 MB and lumia 820 around 1.2 GB
so the matter of content maybe much larger while talking about porting..
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I don't think the size is going to be a problem.
If we can hack the entire system, we surely can use our magic to get around the size, if that is an issue.
mcosmin222 said:
WHAT? how...tell meeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Its the 9900 emulator build, which cant run on a phone, but still, you can get the idea!
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Its the 9900 emulator build, which cant run on a phone, but still, you can get the idea!
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Hi Sianto 1977. Can you share source code download link?

nokia Lumia 930 android

Hi sorry to post this I'm betting its on here somewhere but I cant find it done loads of searches... Ihave a Nokia Lumia 930 on windows 8.1 is there away to install android on this phone if so any information would be grateful thankyou
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feherneoh said:
Not possible yet, as bootloader of phone cannot be unlocked
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What about this hxxp://fullandroid.org/nokia-lumia-930/ it says about installing android 6 on on Nokia Lumia 930
Ok thxs its a shame boot loader is locked. Think I read somewhere about windows 10 update then there's away to load apks from the app store
So I'm screwed when it comes to running apks from google on this Nokia 930
NEVER!!!!
augustinionut said:
NEVER!!!!
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Never gonna get google apps to work u mean
How come other phones like Nokia 928 can be unlocked bootloader but the 930 cant
Closer to Android on Lumia 930 with the release of WP internals
Are we closer to see Android (Oreo) to be ported now that the WP Internals 2.3 version has been released?
was there any success with this?
have one lumia 930 which I no longer use and want to try android on it (if possible)
reports of windows 10 for ARM
aegispotae said:
was there any success with this?
have one lumia 930 which I no longer use and want to try android on it (if possible)
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There were reports about running W10 on ARM on an 830. How to contact the devs?
I'd like to develop a ROM for it but currently I am working on my midterm exams. I also tried to build some ROMs for my Android devices (Galaxy Tab E SpreadTrum), but failed twice, the third time I mistakely made a recovery for it. If someone adds a detailed guide how to prepare the env., get the device drivers for the sensors etc. If someone is willing to give me some extensive knowlegde or at least a source for the knowledge I'll do it. Alternatively for a faster development you can alert the devs (They've probably noticed this because of the 830 hacks that allow to run W10 for ARM instead of Windows Mobile.).
I was also wondering whether there has been any update on this?
I have seen a couple of links to information that I consider suspicious. For example, there was this link to rooting the 930:
httxs://howto-android.com/how-to-root-the-nokia-lumia-930/
However, it refers to using an Android tool so how is this going to work on a Windows phone? If I am going to do this, then I want to use a method that makes sense, has been tested and is reliable.
I'm at the juncture now where I either need to think about replacing the phone battery or buying a new phone. For replacing the battery to be worthwhile in the long term I would need to replace Win10 with Android. Otherwise, the New Nokia 6 2018 looks reasonable at the budget price level that I am restricted to these days. On the other hand the 930 has been a reliable phone hardware wise and has a good camera, and I think there is still life in it, which is why I am very interested in the answer to this question. If there is an Android ROM for it, then I am eager to give it a go.

IS windows dual boot coming?

Just quick question. I searched but couldn't really get an answer. Most of what I found was just using DEX. I thought since windows 10 is running on the snapdragon 835, someone might make it dual boot.
thanks for your replies.
Mad_Scientist_565 said:
Just quick question. I searched but couldn't really get an answer. Most of what I found was just using DEX. I thought since windows 10 is running on the snapdragon 835, someone might make it dual boot.
thanks for your replies.
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there are developers working on Win10 for ARM, but it isn't quite there, yet. I very much doubt that you will ever have a dual boot Win/Android setup on Note 8, but a Windows 10 shell for DeX is already being worked on and should probably be usable soon.
WaxysDargle said:
there are developers working on Win10 for ARM, but it isn't quite there, yet. I very much doubt that you will ever have a dual boot Win/Android setup on Note 8, but a Windows 10 shell for DeX is already being worked on and should probably be usable soon.
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Thanks. In addition. I thought that windows already released a build for arm? I read several laptops are coming with it. I assume its not just as simple as installing that build onto the note 8 due to other hardware differences, but does it simplify things any? again just asking for my curiosity.
Mad_Scientist_565 said:
Thanks. In addition. I thought that windows already released a build for arm? I read several laptops are coming with it. I assume its not just as simple as installing that build onto the note 8 due to other hardware differences, but does it simplify things any? again just asking for my curiosity.
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i am not aware of any official release of Win10 for ARM, yet. we are probably a long way from ever booting Win10 on Note 8 for so many reasons. It is nowhere near as simple as installing Windows in a PC.
There are Win10 arm64 builds available but they won't work on Note8. Or any SD835 phone.
Why? Bootloader. We use bootloader made to load Android. So Samsung would need to release a special bootloader to load Windows.
And just in case if You're wondering. SD835 is comparable to i5 6th gen CPU. So performance in Win10 wouldn't be bad. But 6.3 inch display..
If You want to try Win10 on Your Note, just search for "rdp" in Play Store .
WaxysDargle said:
there are developers working on Win10 for ARM, but it isn't quite there, yet. I very much doubt that you will ever have a dual boot Win/Android setup on Note 8, but a Windows 10 shell for DeX is already being worked on and should probably be usable soon.
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ProtoDeVNan0 said:
There are Win10 arm64 builds available but they won't work on Note8. Or any SD835 phone.
Why? Bootloader. We use bootloader made to load Android. So Samsung would need to release a special bootloader to load Windows.
And just in case if You're wondering. SD835 is comparable to i5 6th gen CPU. So performance in Win10 wouldn't be bad. But 6.3 inch display..
If You want to try Win10 on Your Note, just search for "rdp" in Play Store .
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Actually, I wanted to try something a bit different, but its theoretical and I didnt think it would work anyways.

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