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Edit : The major issue seems to be grounding for most people. I'll mark that and you might wanna try that one first. Might as well wrap your digitizer too since it takes only a second. I'm preserving the post as it was to indicate we've all learned something from this thread. Thanks for sharing your experiences and the nice words folks. Cheers!
DIGITIZER WRAP : So fellas , my family has a lot of nexus 4s , one of them had a broken screen which we replaced. I also fixed the proximity sensor issue with it more than once so feel free to ask questions about it too. After the replacement and fixing those issues , we had another problem which is GPS taking 2 minutes to get a fix , despite the clearly visible sky and whatnot it refused to get a fix. So i set out to find the issue. The internal antenna that is connected to the back cover of the phone (behind your front camera) was clearly making contact , the antenna wire was plugged properly which i tested thoroughly with my trusty fluke on probe setting. Anyway , the problem was the Digitizer , if you can believe that.
Remember the original comes with aluminum tape wrapped around it. I always thought it was to protect it from external interference. I was half-right. It does protect it from external interference but it also protects the antennas from the digitizer's interference. I got some aluminum tape , wrapped it around the Digitizer's IC and et voila! We got a fix in 16 seconds from 14 satellites.
(This mod as it is pointed out by folks here , is pure coincidence it seems. Apparently there is the issue resistance and frequency value of the gps signal , the antenna's resistance needs to match that value or it will not get a signal. So the fact that we even got a signal , let alone a better one is like pure luck. Apparently the added resistance happened to match that value somehow. Anyway , you might wanna just skip this one. Thanks to bla_blaber for pointing that out.)
I also came up with a mod on the back plate.
What we did was , we cut 2 aluminum foils to 3-4 mm width and then starting from the gps contact zones which are located at the right corner of the back plate we started to lay them down avoiding other antennas as best as we can. We worked our way to the bottom with that foil and then connected that foil to the ends of an antenna sticker that we bought off ebay. Then we secured everything in place , and closed the device up. Another et voila , Fixes the position in 5-8 seconds on the same spot. This could theoretically work on the gsm/3g antenna as well although we haven'T tried that , we got pretty good reception where we live. I think those are also on the back plate.
Anyway folks , that's about it. I thought i'd share my experience with you guys so you don'T have to live through the same thing and even make it better. I wish i could provide some pictures but we closed the device up to test it and did not pry it open again. It gets really tense when you're prying open your only phone.
Note : Use copper foil if you can find that , it has better conductivity.
GROUNDING : On top of all those , you need to ground your antennas on the designated places around the frame. Mine came with the pads although some assemblies apparently don't have those , i recently had one. The original has sponge pads to provide contact since those parts of the board are recessed a bit. So , the ground connections need elevation to make contact. Use conductive tape (stack 3-5 together that should be enough) to elevate the points. The ground point just below the front camera is responsible for grounding the gps antenna , i'll mark that in the picture.
The other pictures are there to point out other components. The reference one is the one with the blue tape all over it.
That blue tape insulates the the chips , especially the emmc from the frame. You also need to do the same. You don't want the frame to accumulate charge , because then it won't ground.
WARNING : CUT THE EXCESS TAPE TO THE SHAPE OF THE RECESSED GROUNDING POINT. DON'T SHORT ANYTHING OUT. ESPECIALLY THE ICs.
Thanks to Eriol The Mariner for bringing the grounding issue to my attention.
Hello, I'm interesed in some pics and also with the proximity sensor issu that i'm facing to... Thank you very Mutch from a french Guy with a poor N4 (GPS ans proximity issu)
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jmouf said:
Hello, I'm interesed in some pics and also with the proximity sensor issu that i'm facing to... Thank you very Mutch from a french Guy with a poor N4 (GPS ans proximity issu)
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I'll make the pictures on Monday. I'm going on a short vacation now. If you want i can also help you on skype when i'm free.
Cheers!
OK thanks. No problème for the wait... I'm already waiting for 6 month ( when i changed my broken screen!!)
I use proximityscreenoff app for now.
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Hi!
So, i manage to fix my proximity sensor with the "black ruber" method but if you can show me how to fix the GPS that will be pretty cool !
Thanks in advence
Same problem here!
I also have exactly the same problem. Waiting for the photos of your work! Thank you for your post! :good:
I bought my Nexus 4 the day it came out. I was one of the lucky ones. Since then ive had an attachment to it. The only problem is that the gps stopped working after fixing the LCD. Hopefully we get the images soon so I could fix my GPS as well. You sir are amazing :good:
I'm also patiently awaiting a response too!
I bought my phone used and the GPS was probably always wonky, always losing its fix and taking forever to get a lock. It's really annoying when you're driving using the GPS and it loses GPS signal and then I get lost lol!
The GPS works sometimes but not very well, which makes me think there is something wrong with the GPS receiver.
I'm guessing the previous owner replaced the screen (the bezel was a bit weird around the screen, made me think it was replaced), so that would explain it... I'd rather try to fix this myself though.
Sorry boys , i had a crapton of work to do , i didn'T have time for pictures or anything. I made a picture for you now , it's not my phone but i marked what i did.
1. You have to make sure that your digitizer has this aluminum shielding or else it will cause interference.
2.Don't over-tighten the screws around the proximity sensor which are marked.
3. Below the middle cover is the proximity sensor , which i marked. Insert a paper shim there to make sure it is in position.
4. If you make the foil antenna , avoid other antennas AT ALL COSTS! It will not explode or anything but the other antennas' signals will degrade.
5. Make the antenna very narrow so it doesn't interfere.
6. Place the antennas on top of gps contact points and make sure they don'T touch each other.
7. Antenna material has to be conductive.
8. You cannot possibly brick your device with these instructions. So , if you brick it , it's totally your fault.
The picture :
http://postimg.org/image/m06morc2v/
Good Luck.
Hi !
Thanks for the help and sharing your tips.
I have a similar problem : I replaced my Nexus 4 broken screen but also the battery one week ago.
After the replacement, a GPS problem shows up: the GPS is taking a few seconds (around 20 sec) to fix for the first time but the signal is very weak (low accuracy on GPS tester app) and eventually the fix is lost after 30-40 seconds, recovered for 30-40 sec and lost again etc. When the weather is cloudy, it's even worse : the GPS can't keep the fix more than 5 seconds. It's acting like the GPS antenna has an issue.
I have tried to reopen the phone, to check if the aluminium shielding was here and it was. Just in case, I wrap another aluminium tape around the Digitier's IC with no result
The replacement screen seems to be a genuine one, everything is working fine (proximity sensor for example) except the GPS.
I haven't tried the antenna mod yet but I think that it should be working fine without it.
Does anyone has another idea to help me ?
PS : sorry if my english is wrong, I tried to do my best
Try this attachment... It will fix it
boltthrower56 said:
So fellas , my family has a lot of nexus 4s , one of them had a broken screen which we replaced. I also fixed the proximity sensor issue with it more than once so feel free to ask questions about it too. After the replacement and fixing those issues , we had another problem which is GPS taking 2 minutes to get a fix , despite the clearly visible sky and whatnot it refused to get a fix. So i set out to find the issue. The internal antenna that is connected to the back cover of the phone (behind your front camera) was clearly making contact , the antenna wire was plugged properly which i tested thoroughly with my trusty fluke on probe setting. Anyway , the problem was the Digitizer , if you can believe that.
Remember the original comes with aluminum tape wrapped around it. I always thought it was to protect it from external interference. I was half-right. It does protect it from external interference but it also protects the antennas from the digitizer's interference. I got some aluminum tape , wrapped it around the Digitizer's IC and et voila! We got a fix in 16 seconds from 14 satellites.
I also came up with a mod on the back plate.
What we did was , we cut 2 aluminum foils to 3-4 mm width and then starting from the gps contact zones which are located at the right corner of the back plate we started to lay them down avoiding other antennas as best as we can. We worked our way to the bottom with that foil and then connected that foil to the ends of an antenna sticker that we bought off ebay. Then we secured everything in place , and closed the device up. Another et voila , Fixes the position in 5-8 seconds on the same spot. This could theoretically work on the gsm/3g antenna as well although we haven'T tried that , we got pretty good reception where we live. I think those are also on the back plate.
Anyway folks , that's about it. I thought i'd share my experience with you guys so you don'T have to live through the same thing and even make it better. I wish i could provide some pictures but we closed the device up to test it and did not pry it open again. It gets really tense when you're prying open your only phone.
Note : Use copper foil if you can find that , it has better conductivity.
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Try this attachment... It will fix it
Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
My Nexus 4 is not root so I can't change these configuration files.
My GPS was working fine before the screen (Lcd + digitizer) and battery changing, I used it every day on my road to work.
Now, it's just impossible because of these weird fix losses and I can't figure out the reason
Any news ? GPS find 0/23 satellits but isn't locking at all after replacing my n4 screen... tried everything described in the OP, can't get why the GPS doesn't work anymore after screen replacement, truly annoying!
Hey! Pictures are not showing up, could you up them up somewhere?
Could you also clarify the use of aluminum foil? Not sure I understand "make foil antenna", "make the antenna very narrow" part of your to-do? I'm having no GPS issues after screen replacement so I'm sure this will fix it just have to figure it out how
Thanks!
boltthrower56 said:
Sorry boys , i had a crapton of work to do , i didn'T have time for pictures or anything. I made a picture for you now , it's not my phone but i marked what i did.
1. You have to make sure that your digitizer has this aluminum shielding or else it will cause interference.
2.Don't over-tighten the screws around the proximity sensor which are marked.
3. Below the middle cover is the proximity sensor , which i marked. Insert a paper shim there to make sure it is in position.
4. If you make the foil antenna , avoid other antennas AT ALL COSTS! It will not explode or anything but the other antennas' signals will degrade.
5. Make the antenna very narrow so it doesn't interfere.
6. Place the antennas on top of gps contact points and make sure they don'T touch each other.
7. Antenna material has to be conductive.
8. You cannot possibly brick your device with these instructions. So , if you brick it , it's totally your fault.
The picture :
http://postimg.org/image/m06morc2v/
Good Luck.
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Hi, I also have these issues after I replaced my display with a 45$-product from AliExpress. Mine comes with an aluminum tape. I wrapped another tape around it with no effect. Any other suggestions?
Dear all,
I spent the last two days working on the problem, trying the fix suggested by the OP.
My replacement screen came with an aluminium shield on the digitizer's IC, but I still suffer from the problem reported here.
What I tried was to put some insulating tape around the digitizer's IC's aluminium shield. The GPS signal got better but still far from how strong/fast it used to be.
The addictional foil antenna was an epic fail for me.
Thanks to boltthrower56 for his precious help.
I'm still wondering whether is possible to fix the weak gps signal in some other way.
post scriptum: I'm so disappointed with LG (the Nexus 4 wasn't really meant to be easy to open/repair) and with these chinese sellers who sell very low quality screen (again, blame on lg, for the replacement part I was asked 140€!!)
nexus 4 gps fixed
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I got a nexus 4 with a broken screen and repaired it (only the front screen with digitizer - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-LCD-T...K_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item5668d16af2). The screen seems to be fine, very clear picture etc, but it came without the foil around the digitizer.
I've tried adding insulating tape to both sides to a strip of kitchen aluminum foil (to prevent conductivity) and wrapped it around digitizer, gps works like crap compared to my old Xperia NeoV, signal is at minimum and it is accurate to about 60 feet at best.
Is there a difference between kitchen aluminum foil and that tape? I'm not sure what else it could be, contacts on back case seems to be ok and pressing on it doesn't change the signal. Maybe it is the new front panel on the screen that is interfering (though I'm not sure if that matters, since antenna is on the back)?
Hi, I'm having a similar problem with yours.
The difference is, I've never replaced my screen, so I'm very certain that I have the Aluminium Foil in the Digitizer (It's the one that you marked "Al. Shield" in the picture, right?)
I'm quite busy with exam right now so I can't tinker with my phone.
I remember that I dropped my phone hard few days or weeks ago, that could probably the cause
Will removing the back cover and checking the conductivity help? I can never get a good GPS signal anymore, it's always inaccurate by like 50-100 ft and it loses signal frequently.
And also, I could not understand your "foil antenna" mod(?), in your picture there was no foil at all. Should I put a foil between the GPS contact or what?
What did you replace then, do you still have a broken screen?
Maybe it's the back cover. I've soldered a bit my contacts but that didn't help at all.
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Hi,
I really need your help as I have no idea what to do.
After 1 month of using MI5 Pro Ceramic black I have broke my phone,First the touch worked and there was only vertical lines on the lcd in the spot of the shatter so I could operate but due to my stupidity and of force touching the broken glass these vertical lines started to cover all the screen (Everything worked well on the phone..Sound,Camera and etc..)
So I ordered from Aliexpress LCD + Touch screen for about 70$ (Included DHL Express shipment)
When I got the screen I started to disassamble the phone.. Got everything out,Took out the broken screen and pasted the new screen on the frame (Must say all these aliexpress screens are really bad,0% protection on the screen,Not sure about the LCD quality yet but glass is horrible..Started to scratch even before I used it)
Anyways to our point..
Started to assamble back everything.. Powered on the phone and Yay! Phone is working but...
No Sound,Firstly I checked settings and everything..Ran CIT test and everything that belongs to audio giving force close..
Calibrate Speaker PA test results : State-Get impedance failed!,Speaker Vendor-None
Vibration- FAIL no short and no long
Main mic speaker Feedback,Simulation call test,Front mic speaker feedback test,Top mic speaker feedback test,
everything when I enter it giving FC with that details :
"IlegalStateException:Unable to retrieve AudioRecord pointer for SetParameters() blablala...
Headphone mic feedback test (Called on an uninitialized AudioRecord)
So in short..
No Speaker,No Mic,No headphone Mic..
Now my question is what I need to do from now.. Its not firmware/software problem for sure as before I disassambled the phone everything worked well..
My first guess was the problem is on the Sub PCB but then I asked my self..If the USB-C is working and WiFI antenna giving full signal it means the Sub PCB works so what the hell is the problem? I really hope its not something in the PCB it self as it means throw everything to garbage.. ;<
Hope to hear suggests..
I thought to order the MI5 32GB Black version take out the Main PCB put the Pro Main PCB and put also the ceramic back cover but that I would do only if I know that the problem is from the sub PCB but if Headphone mic doesnt work (Which the Main PCB take care of) then its probably in the Main PCB??
Please help!
you didnt damage the pins on the press connector? is the press connector on the ribbon cable flush / fully inserted ? Are you sure you didnt kink the ribbon cable?
I haven't pulled a mi5 apart, but can only assume its like every other phone i have.
leighaus said:
you didnt damage the pins on the press connector? is the press connector on the ribbon cable flush / fully inserted ? Are you sure you didnt kink the ribbon cable?
I haven't pulled a mi5 apart, but can only assume its like every other phone i have.
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The problem is that far as I understood of how the mi5 built and from how I saw it looks like..The Speaker located in the Sub PCB cover,Vibrate connected to subPCB,And all the SubPCB connected with the cable to the main PCB and I checked it connected good and no any damaged pins from what I was able to see..If there was damaged pins then the phone wont get charged as the USB-C wont be connected as it located in the SubPCB however it does work.. So I really have no idea what cause it..
Also the Headphone mic doesnt work in the tests..Anything related to Audio giving that FC with "AudioRecord" error..
I really must to know what causing it so I will know what to do ;<
Little update,
Just connected a bluetooth speaker,No any sound nothing..
Hi everyone! My MI5 has the same problems, no sound, mic, vibration, led buttons light, plugin earphones without notification's icon, can not play music, video offline and online video (Youtube, Facebook, live stream ..). It was happened when i replaced brooken screen. The first time when I turn on, evetything ok, I can play music through speaker, but now everything has gone..! Plz tell me how to slove this problem! Sorry for my poor E!
Hi, I ended up on buying the phone again... It's impossible to fix that problem as probably you did what I did and didn't place the motherboard correctly so a little bent probably happened and that cause to the problem.
edoroom said:
Hi, I ended up on buying the phone again... It's impossible to fix that problem as probably you did what I did and didn't place the motherboard correctly so a little bent probably happened and that cause to the problem.
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Hi there! Care to elaborate a little more? I have also the same problem. I was replacing the rear camera module while the module I had received was broken to begin with. I hadn't really figured this out initially and I tried several times to attach it and test it, perhaps move the flex and retest, and at some I remember I found out the vibration was not there, but didn't pay attention to it as everything was open, until I found out the camera module was faulty in the end, and subsequently discovered also the whole issue with sound/vibration/key backlight etc. Instead of buying a new device, I was thinking to try and fix it, but still I'm a bit unsure about what the problem really was. From what I could figure, I didn't do anything different this particular time the audio/vibration didn't work, with respect to the previous times I attached and detached the motherboard. But is it definitely the board itself and not its flex connecting it to the sub-pcb? Could it be the sub-pcb itself or even both this and the board? In case I buy a new board (perhaps together with a sub-pcb just in case) to replace it which part should I watch out for, not to damage it again. Sorry for the many questions but you seem to be the only source of info for this specific problem.
deusxx said:
Hi there! Care to elaborate a little more? I have also the same problem. I was replacing the rear camera module while the module I had received was broken to begin with. I hadn't really figured this out initially and I tried several times to attach it and test it, perhaps move the flex and retest, and at some I remember I found out the vibration was not there, but didn't pay attention to it as everything was open, until I found out the camera module was faulty in the end, and subsequently discovered also the whole issue with sound/vibration/key backlight etc. Instead of buying a new device, I was thinking to try and fix it, but still I'm a bit unsure about what the problem really was. From what I could figure, I didn't do anything different this particular time the audio/vibration didn't work, with respect to the previous times I attached and detached the motherboard. But is it definitely the board itself and not its flex connecting it to the sub-pcb? Could it be the sub-pcb itself or even both this and the board? In case I buy a new board (perhaps together with a sub-pcb just in case) to replace it which part should I watch out for, not to damage it again. Sorry for the many questions but you seem to be the only source of info for this specific problem.
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Hi sorry for late answer,I barley visit xda these times..
After I bought the MI5 again this time in the 64gb version I tested the old 128gb motherboard (The main one) and still same problem with Vibration/Sound (While all sensors work camera too)
Which means its not the sub-pcb problem,Its the main motherboard for sure,Now what cause it?
In my opinion when I pulled of the motherboard to put it on the new screen I insert it in a bad way which made it bent a little and probably the place I bent is where the audio and all the stuff goes on..
I'm pretty sure we cant really do something about that problem as problem related to motherboard it self are usually not fixable,But if you find something I will glad to get a feedback to test on my own bad motherboard so maybe I can back to the 128gb version ;| but I doubt it..
edoroom said:
Hi sorry for late answer,I barley visit xda these times..
After I bought the MI5 again this time in the 64gb version I tested the old 128gb motherboard (The main one) and still same problem with Vibration/Sound (While all sensors work camera too)
Which means its not the sub-pcb problem,Its the main motherboard for sure,Now what cause it?
In my opinion when I pulled of the motherboard to put it on the new screen I insert it in a bad way which made it bent a little and probably the place I bent is where the audio and all the stuff goes on..
I'm pretty sure we cant really do something about that problem as problem related to motherboard it self are usually not fixable,But if you find something I will glad to get a feedback to test on my own bad motherboard so maybe I can back to the 128gb version ;| but I doubt it..
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Many thanks for the response! It sheds a little light indeed. I also ordered another phone to replace it as the cost of the motherboard seems to be equal approximately close to a new device. I'm with you, in the same view, I also once placed the motherboard quickly in the chassis without the screw that holds it together, in one of the 50 or so attempts to try and make the camera sensor I was replacing, visible to the OS, and this looseness was the unfortunate one perhaps (?). I too don't expect the sound to work again. I just wanted to double check the issue was not with the sub-pcb, which I did thanks to you. For sure I have no hopes for the mainboard to work again, but still, what keeps me from being certain it is actually the sound card that is the problem, is a very similar case I saw In a foreign forum, and also clues from my device which support the argument that the mainboard might have entered in a kind of diagnostic boot state due to a hardware fault that was apparent, where either some components are not initialized during boot, or their HW resources are taken over from the diag. ports and irqs that are enabled, in which case the issue can perhaps be fixed. For sure whenever I find a good deal on a new motherboard I will replace it, to keep it as a secondary phone, as I liked it quite a bit, but It would be interesting to see if this hypothesis holds or not. Anyway thanks again for the response!
Hi,
I've bought used mi5 with broken screen. After LCD replacement I've found that that phone has problem with sound. Exactly the same as in this thread - no sound, mic, vibration, led buttons light, plugin earphones without notification's icon, can't play music, video offline and online video (Youtube).
Someone already did LCD replacement on this phone and probably done something.
But what I discovered on this phone that problem start when battery charge aprox more then 60%.
I did flash one year old ROM via fastboot ( just to verify if it not the ROM problem) and after that everything was fine ( battery level 50%).
I did hardware test - passed 100% fine.
But when I did charge till 100% the problem come back.
That's really interesting finding... Can you tell me the same steps you did like which rom you flashed and all of that? I will check it with my dead phone maybe if I will have the same thing like you we can point on something...
mi5 lcd replaced touch not working
I bought a mi5 mobile in singapore. My display was damaged. I changed many display in india (checked in many shop). only work display (lcd). Touch not respose. please some one give solution. thank you
have same problem with op
my phone get damaged by water so im rush turn it off and open everything then go to dry it... and problem with speaker etc doesnt work just like op please help i really doesnt have money to buy new phone this month
Exactly same problem with me, just replaced the rear camera and the problem occurs
No sound, no vibration, nav led not working at all, playing video not working
Even playing sound via bluetooth speaker not working too
I believe there is something wrong with the mainboard
can anyone point out which part of the mainboard responsible for the lower board?
The lower board works well though, I tested it using other mainboard
codearm2 said:
Exactly same problem with me, just replaced the rear camera and the problem occurs
No sound, no vibration, nav led not working at all, playing video not working
Even playing sound via bluetooth speaker not working too
I believe there is something wrong with the mainboard
can anyone point out which part of the mainboard responsible for the lower board?
The lower board works well though, I tested it using other mainboard
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For me the problem was that after the screen replacement (It may also apply to you after you replaced the rear camera..)
When I put back he main motherboard it wasnt sat properly,I put it beneath a small plastic holder and when I closed everything and screw and all..Problem appeared and when I rechecked motherboard I found out it got bent in the right down side and that's probably what killed all the sensors,sound and everything..
Of course that what happend to me..There is plenty of other reasons that may cause to what you experience..
edoroom said:
For me the problem was that after the screen replacement (It may also apply to you after you replaced the rear camera..)
When I put back he main motherboard it wasnt sat properly,I put it beneath a small plastic holder and when I closed everything and screw and all..Problem appeared and when I rechecked motherboard I found out it got bent in the right down side and that's probably what killed all the sensors,sound and everything..
Of course that what happend to me..There is plenty of other reasons that may cause to what you experience..
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I believe the chip or something similar, that control the sensor, led, vibration etc, was broken because we put it the wrong way
now we need to find which chip it is and replace it
which part of the right down? near the signal cable?
codearm2 said:
I believe the chip or something similar, that control the sensor, led, vibration etc, was broken because we put it the wrong way
now we need to find which chip it is and replace it
which part of the right down? near the signal cable?
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If you just checked and saw you put it wrong as I did,On the little plastic which made a little bent then I guess you lost..I would just buy new motherboard on aliexpress or just give up and buy a new phone..
As you cant really know (I mean from our side..) if its a chip related there or if its the bent it self which made problem on the connection on the board it self..
And yes I was speaking about the right side near the signal cable where you need to install the motherboard from that side where there is a little plastic like holding the motherboard..When I did the reinstall by not checking I put the motherboard on that plastic and after I closed everything and all screws got back I discovered that problem..
edoroom said:
If you just checked and saw you put it wrong as I did,On the little plastic which made a little bent then I guess you lost..I would just buy new motherboard on aliexpress or just give up and buy a new phone..
As you cant really know (I mean from our side..) if its a chip related there or if its the bent it self which made problem on the connection on the board it self..
And yes I was speaking about the right side near the signal cable where you need to install the motherboard from that side where there is a little plastic like holding the motherboard..When I did the reinstall by not checking I put the motherboard on that plastic and after I closed everything and all screws got back I discovered that problem..
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yeah, it means it's the same mistake as mine, that little metal thing that hold the motherboard, I forgot to eject the sim card tray and when I pull my main board it was stuck, got a little bent from there
Just wonder if anyone have the schematic for mi5 mainboard, since I'm curious and want to find a way to repair it
Not because I'm in despair of needing a phone, this MI5 is my secondary phone
Just because of the curiousity, that's all
edi--
found the schematic here
https://data.dendik.id/Data/Schematic/Xiaomi/Mi5_SM.rar
now on the journey to repair this stupid mistake, lol
any help from someone who are an expert in this thing will be really appreaciated
codearm2 said:
yeah, it means it's the same mistake as mine, that little metal thing that hold the motherboard, I forgot to eject the sim card tray and when I pull my main board it was stuck, got a little bent from there
Just wonder if anyone have the schematic for mi5 mainboard, since I'm curious and want to find a way to repair it
Not because I'm in despair of needing a phone, this MI5 is my secondary phone
Just because of the curiousity, that's all
edi--
found the schematic here
https://data.dendik.id/Data/Schematic/Xiaomi/Mi5_SM.rar
now on the journey to repair this stupid mistake, lol
any help from someone who are an expert in this thing will be really appreaciated
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ok bruh im already do some fking around and do ic audio replacement but no hope its still broke even my repair guy who are ex xiaomi worker are give up the problem is looks like from cpu its self but there was something interesting if u try download device info hw app in google play there was warning that the device cant read sys or something cuz it was blocked and when u look at audio chipset its was gone
feel2death said:
ok bruh im already do some fking around and do ic audio replacement but no hope its still broke even my repair guy who are ex xiaomi worker are give up the problem is looks like from cpu its self but there was something interesting if u try download device info hw app in google play there was warning that the device cant read sys or something cuz it was blocked and when u look at audio chipset its was gone
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Yeah, tried it before, and the audio chip is gone
Perhaps something wrong with the audio chip, will try to replace the IC tomorrow
Hi not many posts as always been a lurker. I recently changed 2 lcd's on 2 different phones. 1st one went fine, but the second on is just showing as if it has a smart case on it at all times meaning cant access the phones features. Tried a couple of troubleshooting steps but still no avail.
1. Different LCD on phone - still same fault
2. Removed proximity sensor - still same fault
3. tried darkening proximity let through on the glass - still same fault
4. Factory reset and cleared cache - still same fault
The customer did say this was playing up once she had broken the screen but though id tap into you experts knowledge to see if you had come across this before or what could i do to remedies this.
If i posted in wrong area appologies please advise where to post!
Many Thanks
Eddie
As far as I know, it senses magnetic fields in order to determine whether the cover is on or not.
I wouldn't think the magnetic sensor is in the screen, which it also doesn't appear to be.
I would look into troubleshooting there instead. Maybe try "resetting" it by putting a strong magnet to it? At your own risk, of course, though I wouldn't expect much to happen.
Replacing the sensor might be the only way out, and it's probably soldered to the board.
Foscot thanks for your reply, will look into this and see if i can get some results. Will post to confirm.
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As far as I know, it senses magnetic fields in order to determine whether the cover is on or not.
I wouldn't think the magnetic sensor is in the screen, which it also doesn't appear to be.
I would look into troubleshooting there instead. Maybe try "resetting" it by putting a strong magnet to it? At your own risk, of course, though I wouldn't expect much to happen.
Replacing the sensor might be the only way out, and it's probably soldered to the board.
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Hi Foscot, a few updates, i noticed the liquid indicator is red so it seems that some damaged must of been caused there, mostly at the bottom of the handset. I cleaned with alcohol and the handset come to light and was working with full screen but then went back to its flip case state. i am thinking maybe changing the sub pba (if i can find one)
Thanks for your help
Will post updates.
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Hi Foscot, a few updates, i noticed the liquid indicator is red so it seems that some damaged must of been caused there, mostly at the bottom of the handset. I cleaned with alcohol and the handset come to light and was working with full screen but then went back to its flip case state. i am thinking maybe changing the sub pba (if i can find one)
Thanks for your help
Will post updates.
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Makes a lot of sense. Water shorted out the magnetic field sensor, which has caused it to always sense the flip case. New PBA is likely the only fix.
Make sure to keep me updated, it's quite interesting
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Makes a lot of sense. Water shorted out the magnetic field sensor, which has caused it to always sense the flip case. New PBA is likely the only fix.
Make sure to keep me updated, it's quite interesting
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All good it seems, i doused in alcohol and gave it a good clean and charged over night now 100% battery with no flip case problem! sensor must be sorted ! going to give back to customer and hopefully all stays well. Many thanks for your help!
Hi. Interesting post. Can you tell me which part of the phone you cleaned with alcohol? Have the same problem with my p9 plus which thinks the flip case is on. Disassembled much of the phone and tried to clean it with paper and alcohohol but with no result. Also tried putting a magnet near the phone.
Update. Disassembled the phone and cleaned all the parts on the lower side of the phone including the board and now it works again.
Hey guys
I have a very strange problem with my Huawei P10
About 2 weeks ago, I noticed that two purple horizontal stripes are appearing in a 3-4sec sequence
Normally, I would immediately ask for a repair, but there's a thing which persecutes me: it only happens when I don't touch the screen for longer than 3-4sec
When there's a continuous contact with the screen (e.g when writing a message) nothing happens, everything is fine and dandy, but whenever I leave the screen for itself for 3 or more seconds (e.g when watching a movie), the stripes start to appear every few seconds, and continue until the screen goes dark or until I touch it again, but after touching it it still takes only a few seconds for the stripes to sequentially flicker again
Here's what I've tried so far (no result):
- safe mode
- factory reset
- cache partition wiping
- cord input deep clean
What may be the reason?
Hey.
It's 100% a board or Display issue. send it for repairs. but i believe maybe you've dropped ur phone. Anyways Huawei knows better.
Erfan_rv said:
Hey.
It's 100% a board or Display issue. send it for repairs. but i believe maybe you've dropped ur phone. Anyways Huawei knows better.
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It's quite complicated
I once dropped it, but even after that, the previous LCD worked fine, there were no errors other than broken glass, so I guess we could exclude a board issue and lean toward your second option, as now that the LCD has been replaced, the fault occurs
What's more, I noticed that if I press the Home Key, and then put my finger in the bottom right corner and hold it, I can still use the whole LCD space without the flickering (I need to press the Home Key first so that it works after I hold my finger in the corner)
It's like the LCD needs to be in contact with your finger all the time to avoid that, which has led me to an idea: would a tempered glass solve that maybe?
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It's quite complicated
I once dropped it, but even after that, the previous LCD worked fine, there were no errors other than broken glass, so I guess we could exclude a board issue and lean toward your second option, as now that the LCD has been replaced, the fault occurs
What's more, I noticed that if I press the Home Key, and then put my finger in the bottom right corner and hold it, I can still use the whole LCD space without the flickering (I need to press the Home Key first so that it works after I hold my finger in the corner)
It's like the LCD needs to be in contact with your finger all the time to avoid that, which has led me to an idea: would a tempered glass solve that maybe?
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I can't really answer for sure but i believe if there's a Huawei service center in your city and you try to fix ur broken huawei, your wasting your time. Whatever solution u apply on ur phone its just gonna be temporary since u hide your problem and not solved it.
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I can't really answer for sure but i believe if there's a Huawei service center in your city and you try to fix ur broken huawei, your wasting your time. Whatever solution u apply on ur phone its just gonna be temporary since u hide your problem and not solved it.
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I still think (or should I say believe ) that there's a solution which doesn't involve another screen replacement
As for your "temporary solution" mention, I guess if I found one, it wouldn't be temporary, since the fault doesn't progress, it's been the same for a month or so when it first occured, which gives me another reason not to replace the screen and keep looking for other possibilities
I don't need a Huawei service center, I can replace the LCD myself (didn't do that the first time though), but it still involves spending money, whereas I've been looking for unpaid solutions the whole time; getting a new LCD is an extremity
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I still think (or should I say believe ) that there's a solution which doesn't involve another screen replacement
As for your "temporary solution" mention, I guess if I found one, it wouldn't be temporary, since the fault doesn't progress, it's been the same for a month or so when it first occured, which gives me another reason not to replace the screen and keep looking for other possibilities
I don't need a Huawei service center, I can replace the LCD myself (didn't do that the first time though), but it still involves spending money, whereas I've been looking for unpaid solutions the whole time; getting a new LCD is an extremity
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You can ask them to diagnose it and tell you about problem noone makes you pay for a lcd. And after reading your message over and over (And since i repair TVs and everything with electronics inside) i think it also can be your touch or display controller ic. Mostly it could be from touch ic since screen works fine while its in touch with something. But someone has to try your lcd or mb on a healthy one to make sure. which you can't do nothing like that. or do you?
@fengels did You bought original lcd, where can I buy it in good price?
I know this problem from older galaxy series like s5. The fix for this most of the time was disable auto brightness or higher the brightness on auto brightness. Don't know if this is the same problem, but it could be a try. Also don't know which cause this strange problem. Hope it can help you
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I know this problem from older galaxy series like s5. The fix for this most of the time was disable auto brightness or higher the brightness on auto brightness. Don't know if this is the same problem, but it could be a try. Also don't know which cause this strange problem. Hope it can help you
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No, it's a different problem, in the galaxy series the whole screen would flicker, whereas in my P10 it's only 2 horizontal stripes appearing in a 4-5 sec sequence whenever I leave the screen untouched for longer than 5sec
Playing around with the brightness doesn't solve that unfortunately, actually no in-device settings do, as I've tried almost every single option which is screen-related, like switching the eye comfort mode on, but still no result
The main reason why I'm still looking for an unpaid solution is that apart from this one error, the phone is like brand new, everything works fine
ok, so if I understad the problem shows up after you replaced the LCD display? So do you really think is more software related than hardware? I personally would send it to diagnose and repair.
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ok, so if I understad the problem shows up after you replaced the LCD display? So do you really think is more software related than hardware? I personally would send it to diagnose and repair.
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The thing is it didn't show up immediately, I had used the phone for some time with no errors before it first occured
Also, since the new LCD was set, I haven't done any physical damage to it, I've never dropped or sunk the phone
Since you guys mostly advise me to send it, I guess that's what I will have to do
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The thing is it didn't show up immediately, I had used the phone for some time with no errors before it first occured
Also, since the new LCD was set, I haven't done any physical damage to it, I've never dropped or sunk the phone
Since you guys mostly advise me to send it, I guess that's what I will have to do
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While you were replacing screen, did you turn your device off and disconnect the battery? and i think cleaning all cables coming from LCD and related sockets on motherboard can help. Use thinner or alcohol and if you wanna use thinner be careful so it wouldn't touch anything except golden contacts. Thinner is dangerous and affects ur phone color and plastic parts.
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While you were replacing screen, did you turn your device off and disconnect the battery? and i think cleaning all cables coming from LCD and related sockets on motherboard can help. Use thinner or alcohol and if you wanna use thinner be careful so it wouldn't touch anything except golden contacts. Thinner is dangerous and affects ur phone color and plastic parts.
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I did turn the device off, but I didn't take the battery off, since it's strongly glued to the phone's body, and I didn't want to damage it
Anyway, could not taking the battery off really be the reason?
As for cleaning, I did it by simply blowing out all the potential dirt, I'm inexperienced in thinner and alcohol cleaning
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I did turn the device off, but I didn't take the battery off, since it's strongly glued to the phone's body, and I didn't want to damage it
Anyway, could not taking the battery off really be the reason?
As for cleaning, I did it by simply blowing out all the potential dirt, I'm inexperienced in thinner and alcohol cleaning
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I am not sure butbon some phones it damages screen. I've seen this on laptops. But anyways its done. Open ur phone and use alcohol. put 2 drops of alcohol on each socket and flat cable connectors and brush it with a soft brush. u don't want to bent any golden contact. It's last thing u can do to fix it without paying for hardware related stuff.
Erfan_rv said:
I am not sure butbon some phones it damages screen. I've seen this on laptops. But anyways its done. Open ur phone and use alcohol. put 2 drops of alcohol on each socket and flat cable connectors and brush it with a soft brush. u don't want to bent any golden contact. It's last thing u can do to fix it without paying for hardware related stuff.
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Well, will definitely try it then, but what alcohol? Does it need to be something specific?
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Well, will definitely try it then, but what alcohol? Does it need to be something specific?
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Just regular alcohol that drug stores sell. for using on injection. sorry my English is awful.
Hi Guys, could you please help me out? A few weeks ago my XZ3 started to act weird. It working perfectly, and after a random time, suddenly its losing both the wifi and mobile network connection (bluetooth is OK). Sometimes a simple restart solves this, but other times its not helping. I tried factory reset, but the problem still occurs. Could it be somehow software related or it must be a harware issue? Any information could help a lot! Thank your very much in advance.
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Hi Guys, could you please help me out? A few weeks ago my XZ3 started to act weird. It working perfectly, and after a random time, suddenly its losing both the wifi and mobile network connection (bluetooth is OK). Sometimes a simple restart solves this, but other times its not helping. I tried factory reset, but the problem still occurs. Could it be somehow software related or it must be a harware issue? Any information could help a lot! Thank your very much in advance.
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i got the same problem. and still stuck till now. did you found any solution?
Hardware issue.
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Hi Guys, could you please help me out? A few weeks ago my XZ3 started to act weird. It working perfectly, and after a random time, suddenly its losing both the wifi and mobile network connection (bluetooth is OK). Sometimes a simple restart solves this, but other times its not helping. I tried factory reset, but the problem still occurs. Could it be somehow software related or it must be a harware issue? Any information could help a lot! Thank your very much in advance.
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It happened to me a few months ago. Have you trying to turn airplane mode on?
J.M.Siyath said:
Hardware issue.
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what part of hardware causes this issue? is it repairable?
aizazkhan666 said:
what part of hardware causes this issue? is it repairable?
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issue may be in chipset so repairing is hard.
I gave it to seller then he sent me another xz3 phone.
now I don't have such issue.
I think it is a manufacturing issue, few phones has this same issue in all Xperia models like xz2,xz3, xperia 1....
J.M.Siyath said:
issue may be in chipset so repairing is hard.
I gave it to seller then he sent me another xz3 phone.
now I don't have such issue.
I think it is a manufacturing issue, few phones has this same issue in all Xperia models like xz2,xz3, xperia 1....
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i got it fixed from a local repair shop. The issue is caused due to some loose components on the motherboard. There are a bunch golden pins around the edges of the main board, the repair guy called them "signal boosters". i don't know what they're actually called. They're all connected to two main signal boosters right in the middle of the motherboard.
UPDATE: it's the plastic middle frame of the phone!! i finally figured it out.
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Hi Guys, could you please help me out? A few weeks ago my XZ3 started to act weird. It working perfectly, and after a random time, suddenly its losing both the wifi and mobile network connection (bluetooth is OK). Sometimes a simple restart solves this, but other times its not helping. I tried factory reset, but the problem still occurs. Could it be somehow software related or it must be a harware issue? Any information could help a lot! Thank your very much in advance.
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I have the same issue.
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UPDATE: it's the plastic middle frame of the phone!! i finally figured it out.
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What exactly did you do? replace the plastic middle frame? or repair it? how?
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What exactly did you do? replace the plastic middle frame? or repair it? how?
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I'm sorry it wasn't the middle frame either. the issue came back after a couple of weeks, mostly when phone got hot under heavy use. i figured when i pushed hard on the side of the phone where sim card lies, the phone would lose signal for a sec or two and then come back to normal
I finally managed to fix my phone somehow it hasn't dropped signal even once in two months. i haven't been able to pinpoint what exact component is malfunctioning that's why I'm going to list every little thing i did..
it's definitely one of the metal contact points on the edges of the motherboard near the sim card tray that connect with the phones casing to boost the wifi and 4g signal. i put a small piece of medical tape on top of each contact point near the sim card tray to completely block them off. ( I've marked in the attaced pic exactly which contact points you have to block )
I've also removed the plastic dummy sim holder that sits just below sim card tray to fill the gap between metal sim holder and phones body. put a piece of paper medical tape there instead. put a small piece of paper in the top right corner of phone housing so that motherboard would stay a little above the housing when you screw it (see pic)
make sure motherboard screws aren't too tight
Don't worry it has little to no effect on phones signal reception, you're only blocking the sub antenna
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I'm sorry it wasn't the middle frame either. the issue came back after a couple of weeks, mostly when phone got hot under heavy use. i figured when i pushed hard on the side of the phone where sim card lies, the phone would lose signal for a sec or two and then come back to normal
I finally managed to fix my phone somehow it hasn't dropped signal even once in two months. i haven't been able to pinpoint what exact component is malfunctioning that's why I'm going to list every little thing i did..
it's definitely one of the metal contact points on the edges of the motherboard near the sim card tray that connect with the phones casing to boost the wifi and 4g signal. i put a small piece of medical tape on top of each contact point near the sim card tray to completely block them off. ( I've marked in the attaced pic exactly which contact points you have to block )
I've also removed the plastic dummy sim holder that sits just below sim card tray to fill the gap between metal sim holder and phones body. put a piece of paper medical tape there instead. put a small piece of paper in the top right corner of phone housing so that motherboard would stay a little above the housing when you screw it (see pic)
make sure motherboard screws aren't too tight
Don't worry it has little to no effect on phones signal reception, you're only blocking the sub antenna
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Bro i followed your method but problem is still occur. What can i do to fix this?
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Same problem here...no wifi or gsm signal....i cleaned the contacts on mother board with alcohol but still nothing. Cant find motherboard to buy either. Just stupid.
kojak989 said:
Same problem here...no wifi or gsm signal....i cleaned the contacts on mother board with alcohol but still nothing. Cant find motherboard to buy either. Just stupid.
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So what you did at the end?
Any update on the matter?
I was able to partially solve my problem with my phone, I took out the black antenna frame and very carefully placed transparent scotch tape (because it´s thinner than medical tape) in all the contacts that are marked in red in the atached picture but now I´m thinking that I shouls have placed tape also on the places marked with green.
So what change I experienced on my phone with this method?
well the phone now has Network and wifi signal all the time and very ocassionaly it does lose the network and wifi signal for a second but when this happen the phone does not say that there is no sim card and does not freeze and restart, it just recovers signal by itself and I can continue using the phone.