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[Need advice] is Xperia T a good buy?

well i lost my xperia zl and need a new primary phone quite urgently...cant decide between xperia t and sp (yes in a bit of tight budget)
what am basically after right now is the display and battery life...also how does the xperia t perform as compared to sp ..is it very noticable? (tbh i would prefer a little low graphic detail than overheating and throttling)
my pros for t :
Roms i like are available
way better deign
cheaper
worries about t:
performance
battery
any suggestion is appreciated

If I were you I would take a look at the Motorola moto g. It has a nice screen in my opinion and battery life is great. It performs better than my T and it has android 4.4. The only con is the camera which is kind of bad. I don't know about rom development for the moto g but I assume there's quite a lot. And best of all, it's cheap!

spromper said:
If I were you I would take a look at the Motorola moto g. It has a nice screen in my opinion and battery life is great. It performs better than my T and it has android 4.4. The only con is the camera which is kind of bad. I don't know about rom development for the moto g but I assume there's quite a lot. And best of all, it's cheap!
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Well moto g has no sd slot
and am getting the t at almost same price How is the speaker performance in t?

In my opinion the speaker in the xperia t is amazing. I had a HTC HD 7 and compared to the the speaker was crap...
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Talking about battery life on screen time is about 4-4:30 hours with normal behaviour I'm getting through the day but struggle in the evening when battery is low
If I were you I would wait a bit and see what is coming in the next months in the middle price segment because T is would not be my first choice ( bought it because of the price as well and the bad camera in the moto g and missing sd slot) BTW what bugs me most is this unbelievably tiny notification led... Had an XPERIA S and that one you could actually see from all perspectives, the one from XT I'd hardly to notice when looking at it directly... :'( why the hell Sony

pieceofphil said:
Talking about battery life on screen time is about 4-4:30 hours with normal behaviour I'm getting through the day but struggle in the evening when battery is low
If I were you I would wait a bit and see what is coming in the next months in the middle price segment because T is would not be my first choice ( bought it because of the price as well and the bad camera in the moto g and missing sd slot) BTW what bugs me most is this unbelievably tiny notification led... Had an XPERIA S and that one you could actually see from all perspectives, the one from XT I'd hardly to notice when looking at it directly... :'( why the hell Sony
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i cant wait much longer as my spare phone right now is a DUMBphone ... cant stay too long without android :laugh:
about the notifications..well one can always use a active display app (dynamic notifications is pretty good) or well omni rom

xyge said:
well i lost my xperia zl and need a new primary phone quite urgently...cant decide between xperia t and sp (yes in a bit of tight budget)
what am basically after right now is the display and battery life...also how does the xperia t perform as compared to sp ..is it very noticable? (tbh i would prefer a little low graphic detail than overheating and throttling)
my pros for t :
Roms i like are available
way better deign
cheaper
worries about t:
performance
battery
any suggestion is appreciated
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My opinion is that T is a better phone than SP even though SP has a higher battery and slightly higher processor.
The T has a much better build quality than the SP and the design of T makes it easier to hold and use than SP.
SP does have the nice illumination bar but then it could be too bright at night or even stand out too much in a office environment, where the subtle notification led of T is better. I also hated the size at first but when you get used to the phone, you know which spot you need to focus on to see if it is blinking.
Performance might differ to individuals as it is dependant on how many apps you have.
Battery wise, I've gone from 100% to 0% in just over 4 hours with constant screen on usage on varying phone signals (being on train...).
One issue with my T is that others do not hear me well on the other end if I speak softly and I've narrowed it down to the actual microphone on phone.

Thanks Guys
ive placed my order for the T ...should get my device in a week

Good choice going for T. It's a well rounded device. I have it for over an year now and had no major problems with it.

xyge said:
Thanks Guys
ive placed my order for the T ...should get my device in a week
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Xperia TX

[Q] Xperia SP or Moto G?

I'm gonna get a new phone soon and im deciding between SP or Moto G. Rom development is very important to me aswell as a bit of hardware. I just want a phone who is ready for Android L. Is xperia SP ready for android L? Does it have many active developers?
I know, rom wise, Moto G has a upper hand but the problem is that Moto G doesnt have a sd card slot and 8 gb (Only 8) is not enough for me.
Which one should I pick
Thanks~
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You already mentioned that 8 GB isn't big enough for you, then why would you even consider the Moto G?
Furthermore, I'm sure the Xperia SP will be able to run Android L hardware-wise.
Question is, will there still be devs around to port Android L to Xperia SP?
I guess there will be some, but don't expect numerous ROMs to choose from.

I'm a ROM junkie and I change ROMs once a week.
By the looks of the ROM development of SP, it doesn't look like it has a lot of 4.4 KitKat and that means it will be late to get Android L.
If you were in my place, Would you go for hardware and have less ROM support or would you rather have a phone with great ROM support but with minimum specs (Moto G)?
Thanks

ClarkOwen said:
I'm a ROM junkie and I change ROMs once a week.
By the looks of the ROM development of SP, it doesn't look like it has a lot of 4.4 KitKat and that means it will be late to get Android L.
If you were in my place, Would you go for hardware and have less ROM support or would you rather have a phone with great ROM support but with minimum specs (Moto G)?
Thanks
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Hi ClarkOwen,
I've been a ROM Junkie like you once until i took an arrow to the knee but I've come to terms that its not always about the ROMs that make a device good. It will always come to the hardware specs that a device has to allow devs to decide whether to develop another android version. Personally for me it is always wise to get a phone with better hardware as it will most likely have more developers who are actively developing for the ROM. I rather you stick with the Xperia SP although the Moto G is also quite a good option.

ClarkOwen said:
I'm a ROM junkie and I change ROMs once a week.
By the looks of the ROM development of SP, it doesn't look like it has a lot of 4.4 KitKat and that means it will be late to get Android L.
If you were in my place, Would you go for hardware and have less ROM support or would you rather have a phone with great ROM support but with minimum specs (Moto G)?
Thanks
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I'd obviously go for the better hardware, the xsp doesn't have too much roms but they are being updated frequently and we even got cm11 roms to work on locked bootloader with the stock kernel! also the only bug in these roms is that the rear mic doesn't work

OK. I have both phones as here is what I have to say.
Moto G looks better (personal opinion, I have both white and red back shells).
Moto G is way more durable. Like not even close. I can drop my Moto G and not ever care...
Both displays are good but moto G has more saturated colors, while Xperia SP has better accuracy and sometimes Moto G tends to overexpose the colors close to blue which is annoying cause white looks pinkish. I prefer Xperia SP with Bravia Engine 2.
Multitasking on both phone is the same, cause they are both stupidly fast. That said Xperia loads apps faster cause it has 1.7Ghz against 1.2Ghz on MotoG and most (99.9%) of the apps are not multi-thread optimized.
In games Xperia beasts the **** out of Moto G with it's Adreno320 vs Adreno305 on MotoG. In OpenGL 2 benchmark I get 35fps avarage with 40fps max, while MotoG gets 26fps avarage, with 31fps max.
AnTuTu shows the same. 25209 score for Xperia SP, 19781 for Moto G.
In terms of software Moto G rapes Xperia SP hard time. Everything just plain works on MotoG, while XperiaSP has some software bugs, most of them are fixed by now, but we still need a few more software updates from Sony for all of them to be fixed.
Moto G is getting Android L, while we're not even sure if we're getting KitKat. But on the other hand we have XDA so you will have Android L on both devices anyway. Maybe even with Bravia Engine 2.
Xperia SP has LTE and SD card slot, while MotoG's LTE version with the SD Card slot is more expensive.
Conclusion.
Durability - MotoG by far
Display - XperiaSP
Hardware/Games - XperiaSP by far
Software - MotoG (if you're not planing on putting custom ROM)
So, I bought my MotoG cause I'm a diehard Motorola fan and the phone was awesome, but it had only 8GB of storage (you can use only 5GB), so I decided to buy 2nd phone for media, etc. But since I got my XperiaSP (like 2 weeks ago) it became my main phone, I love it and I don't regret buying it a bit. I even plan to give my MotoG to my nephew when he starts school this year. That said they're both great devices and you will be more than happy with any of them, as long as you go with at less 16GB version.
Hope I helped!

Oh wow, thank you so much for answering, all of you.
It seems like hardware is still a priority and I almost forgot about it as I am so into ROMS.
Even so, Moto G for me is a big difference because I am coming from HTC One S with andreno 220 and 1.7ghz S3 processor (C2 version) but yes, the internal memory is still important.
Thanks to your responses, I will hold back from buying moto g for now and save some more cash to get the Xperia SP.
Thank you so much and God bless you for helping me )

ClarkOwen said:
Oh wow, thank you so much for answering, all of you.
It seems like hardware is still a priority and I almost forgot about it as I am so into ROMS.
Even so, Moto G for me is a big difference because I am coming from HTC One S with andreno 220 and 1.7ghz S3 processor (C2 version) but yes, the internal memory is still important.
Thanks to your responses, I will hold back from buying moto g for now and save some more cash to get the Xperia SP.
Thank you so much and God bless you for helping me )
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I'm not really sure where you live but Moto G 16GB is 199€ in my country, while I bought my XperiaSP for 159€. Maybe you wanna check Amazon and see what's the shipping cost to your country.
But yeah, I will wait and buy XperiaSP aswell, even if it's a little bit more expensive.

Now the thing is, would it be a great idea to move from HTC One S to Motorola G? Is it an upgrade or downgrade? Especially when it comes to camera and internal.

ClarkOwen said:
Now the thing is, would it be a great idea to move from HTC One S to Motorola G? Is it an upgrade or downgrade? Especially when it comes to camera and internal.
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Here is the camera test from the 3 phones.
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=4574&idPhone2=5364&idPhone3=5831
I'd say that in terms of camera the 3 phones are equal. They do the job but it's nothing special. I can't make a difference between a picture taken with my MotoG and XperiaSP if I don't check the Megapixels. Outside you get really good pictures, while inside they are average. And from what I can see the HTC One S is in the exact same boat.
In terms of specs I don't think that MotoG will be much faster than HTC OneS, cause HTC still has good processor, while when it comes to GPU HTC has lower resolution, so it has to push less pixels with it's Adreno 225 against 720p with Adreno 305. I expect them to have close fps in games and benchmarks.
If you want an honest advice, here is what I'm going to do if I were you. I will go check for how much I can sell my HTC, if it covers half the price of my XperiaSP I will sell it and buy XperiaSP, just because it has better hardware (display, CPU, GPU) and it looks better than HTC OneS. If not just stick with the HTC.
Oh and battery. Motorola's battery is OK, but it can't last more than two days no matter what cause I use my phone ALOT. While XperiaSP I can handle two days of heavy use no problem, and I've seen people with 7 days of battery in stamina mode. When I go to sleep and put my Xperia in stamina mode it drops like 2% for 8 hours, it's insane!
So yeah. Basically do the math for yourself. See if your pocket can handle it and if "yes" go buy XperiaSP. The phone won't get much cheaper cause it's last year "mid-range" phone (it has the same hardware as Moto X which is last year "flagship" device like wtf?) which is better than this year "mid-range" phones.

ClarkOwen said:
I'm a ROM junkie and I change ROMs once a week.
By the looks of the ROM development of SP, it doesn't look like it has a lot of 4.4 KitKat and that means it will be late to get Android L.
If you were in my place, Would you go for hardware and have less ROM support or would you rather have a phone with great ROM support but with minimum specs (Moto G)?
Thanks
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I change ROMs every day,and am using the SP with joy.Sony is pooping on us ATM when it comes to the 4.4 update(i think we will get it tho),
but there is a 90% Xperia z2 port based on cm11,cm11,pa and pac for locked bootloaders,which is awesome.

Nah, Moto G is too underpowered for me...I mean seriously Quad 1.2? My XSP runs 1.7 and my Z1C runs on 2.2Ghz :/
I recommend SP, Moto G is an entry-level phone, built out of cheap plastic unlike SP's Aluminum body, Simply put SP can withstand day to day usage more than the other ( I don't mean Drop tests here, please use your brains )

Wait for Moto G2. Better specs at almost similar price. Releasing on september 5th. It might also have a sd card slot.
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Nah, Moto G is too underpowered for me...I mean seriously Quad 1.2? My XSP runs 1.7 and my Z1C runs on 2.2Ghz :/
I recommend SP, Moto G is an entry-level phone, built out of cheap plastic unlike SP's Aluminum body, Simply put SP can withstand day to day usage more than the other ( I don't mean Drop tests here, please use your brains )
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Get your facts straight. Moto G runs on a Quad core processor while Xperia SP runs on a dual core processor. So Moto G isnt underpowered in any way, infact its much smoother and lag free compared to my xperia sp. I own both Moto G and Xperia SP and in my opinion, Moto G is a better deal. Although I would suggest OP to wait for the upcoming Moto G2.

Cortex A7 or A9 < XSP Krait 300
Like other phones based on Snapdragon 400,200

Revontheus said:
Nah, Moto G is too underpowered for me...I mean seriously Quad 1.2? My XSP runs 1.7 and my Z1C runs on 2.2Ghz :/
I recommend SP, Moto G is an entry-level phone, built out of cheap plastic unlike SP's Aluminum body, Simply put SP can withstand day to day usage more than the other ( I don't mean Drop tests here, please use your brains )
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Cortex A7 or A9 < XSP Krait 300
Like other phones based on Snapdragon 400,200
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Stop fanboying. I have both and yes, SP is a bit faster but you cant actually feel it. The difference is when you play games, SP is way better in games.
About the build quality, MotoG is miles ahead of XperiaSP, like not even close! It looks and feels durable and it actually is. It has water resistance and Gorilla Glass 3.
Just call facts with their names, or if you're not sure then don't tell lies.

eSu.Matix said:
Stop fanboying. I have both and yes, SP is a bit faster but you cant actually feel it. The difference is when you play games, SP is way better in games.
About the build quality, MotoG is miles ahead of XperiaSP, like not even close! It looks and feels durable and it actually is. It has water resistance and Gorilla Glass 3.
Just call facts with their names, or if you're not sure then don't tell lies.
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I myself also own a moto G and I understand where youre coming from but we sometimes have to look at all the other factors that come into play to make a decision. Heres my list;
MotoG;
-Durable for a longer period of time with resistance to almost everything most phones are vulnerable to such as water
-Running a decent processor for day to day use
-Battery life is a tad more than xsp
-Supported by Google
-Rom development may still continue despite hardware of MotoG
-Camera is on par at some points in time with the xsp
-Okish storage
Xperia SP
-Not as much protection
-Feels strong
-Better hardware specs
-Gaming oriented
-Decent battery life
-May get Rom development in the future due to specs
-Expandable storage
Thats all I think abt the xsp and moto g so yeah

Furrydaus said:
I myself also own a moto G and I understand where youre coming from but we sometimes have to look at all the other factors that come into play to make a decision. Heres my list;
MotoG;
-Durable for a longer period of time with resistance to almost everything most phones are vulnerable to such as water
-Running a decent processor for day to day use
-Battery life is a tad more than xsp
-Supported by Google
-Rom development may still continue despite hardware of MotoG
-Camera is on par at some points in time with the xsp
-Okish storage
Xperia SP
-Not as much protection
-Feels strong
-Better hardware specs
-Gaming oriented
-Decent battery life
-May get Rom development in the future due to specs
-Expandable storage
Thats all I think abt the xsp and moto g so yeah
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You just said, what I said in my first two posts at page one..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54939790&postcount=6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54940368&postcount=10

Moto g por todo

Moto G of course.
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Why are you telling that Xperia SP has better display?
SP has an old TFT screen and in the meanwhile Moto G has better ISP screen.
I think, Moto G is more supported and also plays smooth every strong games.
Moto G is an awesome choice with 16GB version.
I have a Moto G anyway.

[Q] Moto X or Sony Xperia Z3 Compact

I like stock android and moto features but it looks like the z3 is better when it comes to specs. which one do you prefer?

Better in terms of what specs? Both have the same Snapdragon 801 2.5GHz processor, same amount of RAM. The Moto X in its favor has a 1080p AMOLED display, a larger 5.2in screen, stock android, and customizability. The Z3 Compact in its favor has a slightly larger battery (2600 mah vs 2300 mah), a greater battery life, a microSD slot, and a waterproof (vs splash resistant) design. All I will say is that if you're looking for updates, there's no question that the Moto X wins out as it is already on 5.0. The Z3 Compact will likely receive it early next year. There's also the fact that the Moto additions such as Display, Assist, and Voice aren't available anywhere else. Your choice depends on whether you prefer battery life, a waterproof design, and a microSD slot above stock android, fast updates, hardware customizability, and a higher resolution screen.

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Better in terms of what specs? Both have the same Snapdragon 801 2.5GHz processor, same amount of RAM. The Moto X in its favor has a 1080p AMOLED display, a larger 5.2in screen, stock android, and customizability. The Z3 Compact in its favor has a slightly larger battery (2600 mah vs 2300 mah), a greater battery life, a microSD slot, and a waterproof (vs splash resistant) design. All I will say is that if you're looking for updates, there's no question that the Moto X wins out as it is already on 5.0. The Z3 Compact will likely receive it early next year. There's also the fact that the Moto additions such as Display, Assist, and Voice aren't available anywhere else. Your choice depends on whether you prefer battery life, a waterproof design, and a microSD slot above stock android, fast updates, hardware customizability, and a higher resolution screen.
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yes but which phone do you think has a better investment, future proof and overall?

The Moto X is in another league compared to the Z3 Compact, build quality alone sees to that.
A better comparison would be with the Z3 proper.

If by future proofing you mean updates, then there's only 1 answer to that: Moto X. You've seen by now how quickly the Moto X got the updates to KitKat and to Lollipop. Sony can never be as fast as that simply because they choose to put their UI on the phone, which, unless it undergoes some plastic surgery when their 5.0 update rolls out, looks extremely boring and dated. I've had a Z2 before, and trust me, its UI got tiring after a while, especially when you see all the little places where the system lags in comparison to stock android (try pressing on the multitasking button with the X and the Z2/Z3 side by side, you'll see what I mean).

I used the Z3c for about 10-days before I sold it and got my leather backed Moto X. The Z3c is a decent phone, but it feels so delicate, and the super slippery glass front and back made me feel like I was going to drop it all the time. The speakers are horrible, supposedly from the waterproofing, but they sounded very muffled. My Moto X, even compared to 1st gen, has a wonderful sound quality, and is plenty loud enough. The flaps on the side (Z3c) are not very attractive, and it seemed like over time would get very tedious to use. One cool feature though is the addition of the magnetic charging port (like on a MacBook), but it was pretty fiddly to get it to seat right, and didn't play well with my car dock. The Z3c screen is really bright and clear and could easily be seen in direct sunlight, and the camera is leagues ahead of the MotoX despite having dozens of camera filter modes to wade through. On paper the Z3c comes out ahead of the Moto X, but as far as usability, ease of use, feel in the hand, build quality, and pure(ish) android the Moto X is a much better phone. And, one more thing, one you get used to the Moto's active display, driving mode, and always listening stuff it's really hard to live without.

Pretty different phones. I think the compact is more similar to the 2013 Moto X (screen size and resolution). I would take a compact over a 2013 X. The new 2014 X compares much more closely to the full Z3. I looked at a Z2 a while back, and it felt a lot bigger in the hand than the 2014 Moto X. I don't think it was really that much bigger, but the appearance in the hand was. If you are all in the Sony experience, have a PS4 and all that, then the Z3 could be cool - but for a straight-up clean Android experience phone, I would go Moto X. Now, the Z4 looks to be pretty cool with an 810 and Sony's new camera hardware. About 6 months out.

I happen to own both a Moto X and a z3 compact. I love love love my z3 compact. Best battery life I've seen on any phone that I have owned and I own at least 6 or 7 different phones per year. Both the Moto X and the z3 compact feel really good in the hand. I was using my z3 compact as my daily driver until 5.0 dropped in the Moto X. I will be switching back to it when lollipop drops on it. I really did not expect to like the device as much as I have. I raved about the device so much to my co-workers at swappa that two of them went out and bought the phone. The skin on the sony is not bad at all either. I think both are great phones but I will admit my z3 compact is my favorite. I buy and sell phones all the time and my z3 compact is one I don't even consider selling.. And I love the device so much that I got square trade on it just in case something happens to it.. My 2 other current phones and any of my tablets do not have square trade.. Only my z3 compact. If running stock Android and the latest version of Android is important to you then I would say stay with the Moto X. If you want a perfect size device, with a great camera and don't mind waiting for Sony for lollipop and want a phone with amazing battery life (with heavy use I get over a day and a half with very minimal usage I've gotten 4 days!) I really am impressed with that device.. Much more than I thought I'd be. You can't really lose either way honestly.

Xperia X Performance vs Xperia XZ. Which one to choose?

Can we draw out the real differences between X Performance and XZ. I bought the X Performance already and now I feel I should have waited for the XZ.
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from what i gathered they are the same except the laser auto focus, everything else is just software improvements, i have an x performance dual and i love it, didn't even mod it yet cause its just amazing,

I also have X performance and I love it the camera is just limited on new 275 heat isn't a issue like 227 so they need to add 4k back to camera and unlock options so it's not just 8mp. Other then that I love it would like root on lb cause my carrier locks bl but all amd all I'm pretty happy replaced my Z3 with x performance but still carry Z3 cause I have cyberian camera on z3
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I like the looks of the X performance, and I might pickup the X compact, I like the lite blue color one, may be I can use the X compact as a spare phone, Have no intention of getting the XZ.

What made me recommend the performance was holding the XA (same body size) in my hand at best buy yesterday. It's the perfect size with the 5" screen and small bezels.

The diff in size is just mm. Screen is 0.2 inches bigger on XZ where X Performance has 13 ppi more
Camera, proc, ram is identical on both devices.
The XZ has a 2900 mAh battery, 200 more than the X has The XZ also has a USB-C connector !!
Camera controls are a bit better as it has more manual settings, ISO and shutter speed.
I have used my X performance for some time and waiting for the XZ to arrive any day )
The X Compact was to much plastic fantastic to my taste :-O
Either way, they are all very good devices!

Moto x4 or Moto Z?

I have the 3/32gb version of the x4. I have the option to get a brand new Moto Z with 4/64gb which as you know is also AMOLED screen and Snapdragon 820 processor with adreno 530. However it's a single camera. Should I do this?

Nickdroid86 said:
I have the 3/32gb version of the x4. I have the option to get a brand new Moto Z with 4/64gb which as you know is also AMOLED screen and Snapdragon 820 processor with adreno 530. However it's a single camera. Should I do this?
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The problem of Moto Z in my opinion is not having IP68 protection and the fingerprint sensor is that poor square with no gesture support. Otherwise it's a great gadget, I heard this Phone got a great price on Gearbest now.

64 GB vs 32 GB, new battery...

So I got to own both. Sticking with the x4.
On paper the Z sounds better. But the processor slows down significantly when using multiple apps. I would even compare it to the new gen of Snapdragon 4xx series. The 64gb doesn't mean much because a large chunk is taken up by the software. The ram is an extra GB at 4 vs. the 3 on the x4, however running all the same apps, the x4 had much ram left open for use than the Z did. Ram management was terrible. Other than that, the camera was the worst in low light I've seen in a long time and bad in general. The battery was the worst and it also gets really hot really fast. Lack of fingerprint sensor gestures. The screen was very nice and vibrant but the x4 screen was also very good, just not quite as good but the no reason for me to keep the Z over the other cons. I wanted to get in detail with my experience because I got to use both extensively and there is no real world comparison anywhere on the internet other than the spec sheet which sounds good in favor of the Z, but it's definitely not in real life. Even the quadrant scores were way higher on the Z, but actually the phone felt useless with a few apps open.