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I'm gonna get a new phone soon and im deciding between SP or Moto G. Rom development is very important to me aswell as a bit of hardware. I just want a phone who is ready for Android L. Is xperia SP ready for android L? Does it have many active developers?
I know, rom wise, Moto G has a upper hand but the problem is that Moto G doesnt have a sd card slot and 8 gb (Only 8) is not enough for me.
Which one should I pick
Thanks~
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You already mentioned that 8 GB isn't big enough for you, then why would you even consider the Moto G?
Furthermore, I'm sure the Xperia SP will be able to run Android L hardware-wise.
Question is, will there still be devs around to port Android L to Xperia SP?
I guess there will be some, but don't expect numerous ROMs to choose from.
I'm a ROM junkie and I change ROMs once a week.
By the looks of the ROM development of SP, it doesn't look like it has a lot of 4.4 KitKat and that means it will be late to get Android L.
If you were in my place, Would you go for hardware and have less ROM support or would you rather have a phone with great ROM support but with minimum specs (Moto G)?
Thanks
ClarkOwen said:
I'm a ROM junkie and I change ROMs once a week.
By the looks of the ROM development of SP, it doesn't look like it has a lot of 4.4 KitKat and that means it will be late to get Android L.
If you were in my place, Would you go for hardware and have less ROM support or would you rather have a phone with great ROM support but with minimum specs (Moto G)?
Thanks
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Hi ClarkOwen,
I've been a ROM Junkie like you once until i took an arrow to the knee but I've come to terms that its not always about the ROMs that make a device good. It will always come to the hardware specs that a device has to allow devs to decide whether to develop another android version. Personally for me it is always wise to get a phone with better hardware as it will most likely have more developers who are actively developing for the ROM. I rather you stick with the Xperia SP although the Moto G is also quite a good option.
ClarkOwen said:
I'm a ROM junkie and I change ROMs once a week.
By the looks of the ROM development of SP, it doesn't look like it has a lot of 4.4 KitKat and that means it will be late to get Android L.
If you were in my place, Would you go for hardware and have less ROM support or would you rather have a phone with great ROM support but with minimum specs (Moto G)?
Thanks
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I'd obviously go for the better hardware, the xsp doesn't have too much roms but they are being updated frequently and we even got cm11 roms to work on locked bootloader with the stock kernel! also the only bug in these roms is that the rear mic doesn't work
OK. I have both phones as here is what I have to say.
Moto G looks better (personal opinion, I have both white and red back shells).
Moto G is way more durable. Like not even close. I can drop my Moto G and not ever care...
Both displays are good but moto G has more saturated colors, while Xperia SP has better accuracy and sometimes Moto G tends to overexpose the colors close to blue which is annoying cause white looks pinkish. I prefer Xperia SP with Bravia Engine 2.
Multitasking on both phone is the same, cause they are both stupidly fast. That said Xperia loads apps faster cause it has 1.7Ghz against 1.2Ghz on MotoG and most (99.9%) of the apps are not multi-thread optimized.
In games Xperia beasts the **** out of Moto G with it's Adreno320 vs Adreno305 on MotoG. In OpenGL 2 benchmark I get 35fps avarage with 40fps max, while MotoG gets 26fps avarage, with 31fps max.
AnTuTu shows the same. 25209 score for Xperia SP, 19781 for Moto G.
In terms of software Moto G rapes Xperia SP hard time. Everything just plain works on MotoG, while XperiaSP has some software bugs, most of them are fixed by now, but we still need a few more software updates from Sony for all of them to be fixed.
Moto G is getting Android L, while we're not even sure if we're getting KitKat. But on the other hand we have XDA so you will have Android L on both devices anyway. Maybe even with Bravia Engine 2.
Xperia SP has LTE and SD card slot, while MotoG's LTE version with the SD Card slot is more expensive.
Conclusion.
Durability - MotoG by far
Display - XperiaSP
Hardware/Games - XperiaSP by far
Software - MotoG (if you're not planing on putting custom ROM)
So, I bought my MotoG cause I'm a diehard Motorola fan and the phone was awesome, but it had only 8GB of storage (you can use only 5GB), so I decided to buy 2nd phone for media, etc. But since I got my XperiaSP (like 2 weeks ago) it became my main phone, I love it and I don't regret buying it a bit. I even plan to give my MotoG to my nephew when he starts school this year. That said they're both great devices and you will be more than happy with any of them, as long as you go with at less 16GB version.
Hope I helped!
Oh wow, thank you so much for answering, all of you.
It seems like hardware is still a priority and I almost forgot about it as I am so into ROMS.
Even so, Moto G for me is a big difference because I am coming from HTC One S with andreno 220 and 1.7ghz S3 processor (C2 version) but yes, the internal memory is still important.
Thanks to your responses, I will hold back from buying moto g for now and save some more cash to get the Xperia SP.
Thank you so much and God bless you for helping me )
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Oh wow, thank you so much for answering, all of you.
It seems like hardware is still a priority and I almost forgot about it as I am so into ROMS.
Even so, Moto G for me is a big difference because I am coming from HTC One S with andreno 220 and 1.7ghz S3 processor (C2 version) but yes, the internal memory is still important.
Thanks to your responses, I will hold back from buying moto g for now and save some more cash to get the Xperia SP.
Thank you so much and God bless you for helping me )
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I'm not really sure where you live but Moto G 16GB is 199€ in my country, while I bought my XperiaSP for 159€. Maybe you wanna check Amazon and see what's the shipping cost to your country.
But yeah, I will wait and buy XperiaSP aswell, even if it's a little bit more expensive.
Now the thing is, would it be a great idea to move from HTC One S to Motorola G? Is it an upgrade or downgrade? Especially when it comes to camera and internal.
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Now the thing is, would it be a great idea to move from HTC One S to Motorola G? Is it an upgrade or downgrade? Especially when it comes to camera and internal.
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Here is the camera test from the 3 phones.
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=1&idPhone1=4574&idPhone2=5364&idPhone3=5831
I'd say that in terms of camera the 3 phones are equal. They do the job but it's nothing special. I can't make a difference between a picture taken with my MotoG and XperiaSP if I don't check the Megapixels. Outside you get really good pictures, while inside they are average. And from what I can see the HTC One S is in the exact same boat.
In terms of specs I don't think that MotoG will be much faster than HTC OneS, cause HTC still has good processor, while when it comes to GPU HTC has lower resolution, so it has to push less pixels with it's Adreno 225 against 720p with Adreno 305. I expect them to have close fps in games and benchmarks.
If you want an honest advice, here is what I'm going to do if I were you. I will go check for how much I can sell my HTC, if it covers half the price of my XperiaSP I will sell it and buy XperiaSP, just because it has better hardware (display, CPU, GPU) and it looks better than HTC OneS. If not just stick with the HTC.
Oh and battery. Motorola's battery is OK, but it can't last more than two days no matter what cause I use my phone ALOT. While XperiaSP I can handle two days of heavy use no problem, and I've seen people with 7 days of battery in stamina mode. When I go to sleep and put my Xperia in stamina mode it drops like 2% for 8 hours, it's insane!
So yeah. Basically do the math for yourself. See if your pocket can handle it and if "yes" go buy XperiaSP. The phone won't get much cheaper cause it's last year "mid-range" phone (it has the same hardware as Moto X which is last year "flagship" device like wtf?) which is better than this year "mid-range" phones.
ClarkOwen said:
I'm a ROM junkie and I change ROMs once a week.
By the looks of the ROM development of SP, it doesn't look like it has a lot of 4.4 KitKat and that means it will be late to get Android L.
If you were in my place, Would you go for hardware and have less ROM support or would you rather have a phone with great ROM support but with minimum specs (Moto G)?
Thanks
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I change ROMs every day,and am using the SP with joy.Sony is pooping on us ATM when it comes to the 4.4 update(i think we will get it tho),
but there is a 90% Xperia z2 port based on cm11,cm11,pa and pac for locked bootloaders,which is awesome.
Nah, Moto G is too underpowered for me...I mean seriously Quad 1.2? My XSP runs 1.7 and my Z1C runs on 2.2Ghz :/
I recommend SP, Moto G is an entry-level phone, built out of cheap plastic unlike SP's Aluminum body, Simply put SP can withstand day to day usage more than the other ( I don't mean Drop tests here, please use your brains )
Wait for Moto G2. Better specs at almost similar price. Releasing on september 5th. It might also have a sd card slot.
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Nah, Moto G is too underpowered for me...I mean seriously Quad 1.2? My XSP runs 1.7 and my Z1C runs on 2.2Ghz :/
I recommend SP, Moto G is an entry-level phone, built out of cheap plastic unlike SP's Aluminum body, Simply put SP can withstand day to day usage more than the other ( I don't mean Drop tests here, please use your brains )
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Get your facts straight. Moto G runs on a Quad core processor while Xperia SP runs on a dual core processor. So Moto G isnt underpowered in any way, infact its much smoother and lag free compared to my xperia sp. I own both Moto G and Xperia SP and in my opinion, Moto G is a better deal. Although I would suggest OP to wait for the upcoming Moto G2.
Cortex A7 or A9 < XSP Krait 300
Like other phones based on Snapdragon 400,200
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Nah, Moto G is too underpowered for me...I mean seriously Quad 1.2? My XSP runs 1.7 and my Z1C runs on 2.2Ghz :/
I recommend SP, Moto G is an entry-level phone, built out of cheap plastic unlike SP's Aluminum body, Simply put SP can withstand day to day usage more than the other ( I don't mean Drop tests here, please use your brains )
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Cortex A7 or A9 < XSP Krait 300
Like other phones based on Snapdragon 400,200
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Stop fanboying. I have both and yes, SP is a bit faster but you cant actually feel it. The difference is when you play games, SP is way better in games.
About the build quality, MotoG is miles ahead of XperiaSP, like not even close! It looks and feels durable and it actually is. It has water resistance and Gorilla Glass 3.
Just call facts with their names, or if you're not sure then don't tell lies.
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Stop fanboying. I have both and yes, SP is a bit faster but you cant actually feel it. The difference is when you play games, SP is way better in games.
About the build quality, MotoG is miles ahead of XperiaSP, like not even close! It looks and feels durable and it actually is. It has water resistance and Gorilla Glass 3.
Just call facts with their names, or if you're not sure then don't tell lies.
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I myself also own a moto G and I understand where youre coming from but we sometimes have to look at all the other factors that come into play to make a decision. Heres my list;
MotoG;
-Durable for a longer period of time with resistance to almost everything most phones are vulnerable to such as water
-Running a decent processor for day to day use
-Battery life is a tad more than xsp
-Supported by Google
-Rom development may still continue despite hardware of MotoG
-Camera is on par at some points in time with the xsp
-Okish storage
Xperia SP
-Not as much protection
-Feels strong
-Better hardware specs
-Gaming oriented
-Decent battery life
-May get Rom development in the future due to specs
-Expandable storage
Thats all I think abt the xsp and moto g so yeah
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I myself also own a moto G and I understand where youre coming from but we sometimes have to look at all the other factors that come into play to make a decision. Heres my list;
MotoG;
-Durable for a longer period of time with resistance to almost everything most phones are vulnerable to such as water
-Running a decent processor for day to day use
-Battery life is a tad more than xsp
-Supported by Google
-Rom development may still continue despite hardware of MotoG
-Camera is on par at some points in time with the xsp
-Okish storage
Xperia SP
-Not as much protection
-Feels strong
-Better hardware specs
-Gaming oriented
-Decent battery life
-May get Rom development in the future due to specs
-Expandable storage
Thats all I think abt the xsp and moto g so yeah
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You just said, what I said in my first two posts at page one..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54939790&postcount=6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54940368&postcount=10
Moto g por todo
Moto G of course.
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Why are you telling that Xperia SP has better display?
SP has an old TFT screen and in the meanwhile Moto G has better ISP screen.
I think, Moto G is more supported and also plays smooth every strong games.
Moto G is an awesome choice with 16GB version.
I have a Moto G anyway.
Hi, I'm leaving my garbage Xperia Sola after 2 years of blood cry because of its horrible SoC, its horrible software and his horrible support. Now I'm very interested in buying this new Moto G 2014. I ha ve some question for people more expert than me.
1) Do you know when it is going to be released in Italy?
2) What are the pros of this phone (other then price)?
3) Which features are a little economic or can create some troubles?
Thank you in advance
1) It's already available.
I'll answer based on reviews...
2) Build quality, screen, camera, battery life, stock android, android l update guaranteed.
3) Speakers are kinda weak, still using Snapdragon 400 and snapdragon 410 is already available.
Thank you for answers.
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1) It's already available.
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Really? In Western Europe Motorola site Moto G is Coming soon.
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Speakers are kinda weak
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Do you mean by loudness or by sound quality? In the latter case it wouldn't be a big problem for me.
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still using Snapdragon 400 and snapdragon 410 is already available.
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Snap 400 is a reliable proc, is there some other product with about same price that use Snap 410 for comparison?
Mons1990 said:
Thank you for answers.
Really? In Western Europe Motorola site Moto G is Coming soon.
Do you mean by loudness or by sound quality? In the latter case it wouldn't be a big problem for me.
Snap 400 is a reliable proc, is there some other product with about same price that use Snap 410 for comparison?
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It's already available in some european stores, like amazon.
I mean by sound quality, is poor, but i didn't test it myself.
Snap 400 uses A7 cores which makes it very slow compared to other SOCs, it's fast enough for now, but in the future i'm not sure. Snap 410 already uses new A53 cores which are a lot faster, efficient and supports 64-bit. The HTC Desire 510 comes with 410.
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Snap 400 uses A7 cores which makes it very slow compared to other SOCs, it's fast enough for now, but in the future i'm not sure. Snap 410 already uses new A53 cores which are a lot faster, efficient and supports 64-bit. The HTC Desire 510 comes with 410.
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I doubt that after Project Svelte in KitKat, they'd go back to a more cpu intensive way of operating. Android L having more animations, imo, will still be perfectly okay to run on a Snap 400, + ART Optimizations will also help. However, we can only wait and see :silly:
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I doubt that after Project Svelte in KitKat, they'd go back to a more cpu intensive way of operating. Android L having more animations, imo, will still be perfectly okay to run on a Snap 400, + ART Optimizations will also help. However, we can only wait and see :silly:
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I hope soo... They said i'll be easier on cpu and ram with ART, that's why i ordered this phone, i didn't spent an extra 130€ on the nexus 5 because of the battery.
how is the battery life?
MiguelPT said:
It's already available in some european stores, like amazon.
I mean by sound quality, is poor, but i didn't test it myself.
Snap 400 uses A7 cores which makes it very slow compared to other SOCs, it's fast enough for now, but in the future i'm not sure. Snap 410 already uses new A53 cores which are a lot faster, efficient and supports 64-bit. The HTC Desire 510 comes with 410.
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Thank you guy. I keep my Sola even if it sucks: this phone is too big and old.
Inviato dal mio Sony Xperia Tablet S attraverso l'app ufficiale xda-developers
Mons1990 said:
Thank you guy. I keep my Sola even if it sucks: this phone is too big and old.
Inviato dal mio Sony Xperia Tablet S attraverso l'app ufficiale xda-developers
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I wouldn't say it's old, but they could have updated the SoC...
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I wouldn't say it's old, but they could have updated the SoC...
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I know, that came from me. I think that for now we have to wait the Android L generation to know which phone is old and which is not; and usually my phones' life is of 2yrs or more, so I have to avoid to buy a phone and maybe 6 months later 1GB of ram become a ridiculous amount. I bought in 2011 a 512MB RAM phone, and now i have lots of troubles with it.
Let's see the price of Z1C at Christmas, when z3C will be already released.
I'm looking for a device to test android. I'm an iPhone user but always wanted to try the android world.
The other phones (htc m8, galaxy S5, xperia Z2) are too expensive in my country (damn taxes) and the low range devices are too underpowered and don't have a SD expansion (important to me).
I want a mid range phone to taste and if I decide to move to android I'll wait the Android L generation phones.
I don't play any games besides angry birds and boom beach. I do listen a lot of music (car Bluetooth) and GPS navigation (waze)
Maybe is the Moto G a good cost-benefit device?
I got mine yesterday. Performs just as well if not slightly faster than my NEXUS 4 (in terms of responsiveness). Limited memory can be a problem if you run multiple (memory intensive) apps simultaneously. When I run facebook app and chrome, it'll sometimes kick FB off memory, but it takes 2 sec to reload so not a big deal for me. Speakers are decent IMO. They are loud and distort at high volume, but knocking the volume down 2-3 steps help. Screen quality is very good and the gamut is similar to TV standard (~72% NTSC from what I can tell). The only quibble I found is stiffness of the buttons.
If you have any questions feel free to ask.
PS: I prefer SP 400 cos A7 is still more efficient than Cortex-A53. Also, ART should boost performance even further. I only wish the new Moto had 1.5 GB of RAM instead of 1.
MOTO G 2nd Generation Unboxing And Honest Review
http://youtu.be/7_iJYCZ-BGI
Mons1990 said:
I know, that came from me. I think that for now we have to wait the Android L generation to know which phone is old and which is not; and usually my phones' life is of 2yrs or more, so I have to avoid to buy a phone and maybe 6 months later 1GB of ram become a ridiculous amount. I bought in 2011 a 512MB RAM phone, and now i have lots of troubles with it.
Let's see the price of Z1C at Christmas, when z3C will be already released.
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Why are you comparing a 179$ phone with a 400$ phone? I don't understand why a lot of people compare a less than 200$ phone with a 400$ phone.
You should compare the new Moto X with Xperia Z1C, then it would be a fair comparison.
I like stock android and moto features but it looks like the z3 is better when it comes to specs. which one do you prefer?
Better in terms of what specs? Both have the same Snapdragon 801 2.5GHz processor, same amount of RAM. The Moto X in its favor has a 1080p AMOLED display, a larger 5.2in screen, stock android, and customizability. The Z3 Compact in its favor has a slightly larger battery (2600 mah vs 2300 mah), a greater battery life, a microSD slot, and a waterproof (vs splash resistant) design. All I will say is that if you're looking for updates, there's no question that the Moto X wins out as it is already on 5.0. The Z3 Compact will likely receive it early next year. There's also the fact that the Moto additions such as Display, Assist, and Voice aren't available anywhere else. Your choice depends on whether you prefer battery life, a waterproof design, and a microSD slot above stock android, fast updates, hardware customizability, and a higher resolution screen.
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Better in terms of what specs? Both have the same Snapdragon 801 2.5GHz processor, same amount of RAM. The Moto X in its favor has a 1080p AMOLED display, a larger 5.2in screen, stock android, and customizability. The Z3 Compact in its favor has a slightly larger battery (2600 mah vs 2300 mah), a greater battery life, a microSD slot, and a waterproof (vs splash resistant) design. All I will say is that if you're looking for updates, there's no question that the Moto X wins out as it is already on 5.0. The Z3 Compact will likely receive it early next year. There's also the fact that the Moto additions such as Display, Assist, and Voice aren't available anywhere else. Your choice depends on whether you prefer battery life, a waterproof design, and a microSD slot above stock android, fast updates, hardware customizability, and a higher resolution screen.
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yes but which phone do you think has a better investment, future proof and overall?
The Moto X is in another league compared to the Z3 Compact, build quality alone sees to that.
A better comparison would be with the Z3 proper.
If by future proofing you mean updates, then there's only 1 answer to that: Moto X. You've seen by now how quickly the Moto X got the updates to KitKat and to Lollipop. Sony can never be as fast as that simply because they choose to put their UI on the phone, which, unless it undergoes some plastic surgery when their 5.0 update rolls out, looks extremely boring and dated. I've had a Z2 before, and trust me, its UI got tiring after a while, especially when you see all the little places where the system lags in comparison to stock android (try pressing on the multitasking button with the X and the Z2/Z3 side by side, you'll see what I mean).
I used the Z3c for about 10-days before I sold it and got my leather backed Moto X. The Z3c is a decent phone, but it feels so delicate, and the super slippery glass front and back made me feel like I was going to drop it all the time. The speakers are horrible, supposedly from the waterproofing, but they sounded very muffled. My Moto X, even compared to 1st gen, has a wonderful sound quality, and is plenty loud enough. The flaps on the side (Z3c) are not very attractive, and it seemed like over time would get very tedious to use. One cool feature though is the addition of the magnetic charging port (like on a MacBook), but it was pretty fiddly to get it to seat right, and didn't play well with my car dock. The Z3c screen is really bright and clear and could easily be seen in direct sunlight, and the camera is leagues ahead of the MotoX despite having dozens of camera filter modes to wade through. On paper the Z3c comes out ahead of the Moto X, but as far as usability, ease of use, feel in the hand, build quality, and pure(ish) android the Moto X is a much better phone. And, one more thing, one you get used to the Moto's active display, driving mode, and always listening stuff it's really hard to live without.
Pretty different phones. I think the compact is more similar to the 2013 Moto X (screen size and resolution). I would take a compact over a 2013 X. The new 2014 X compares much more closely to the full Z3. I looked at a Z2 a while back, and it felt a lot bigger in the hand than the 2014 Moto X. I don't think it was really that much bigger, but the appearance in the hand was. If you are all in the Sony experience, have a PS4 and all that, then the Z3 could be cool - but for a straight-up clean Android experience phone, I would go Moto X. Now, the Z4 looks to be pretty cool with an 810 and Sony's new camera hardware. About 6 months out.
I happen to own both a Moto X and a z3 compact. I love love love my z3 compact. Best battery life I've seen on any phone that I have owned and I own at least 6 or 7 different phones per year. Both the Moto X and the z3 compact feel really good in the hand. I was using my z3 compact as my daily driver until 5.0 dropped in the Moto X. I will be switching back to it when lollipop drops on it. I really did not expect to like the device as much as I have. I raved about the device so much to my co-workers at swappa that two of them went out and bought the phone. The skin on the sony is not bad at all either. I think both are great phones but I will admit my z3 compact is my favorite. I buy and sell phones all the time and my z3 compact is one I don't even consider selling.. And I love the device so much that I got square trade on it just in case something happens to it.. My 2 other current phones and any of my tablets do not have square trade.. Only my z3 compact. If running stock Android and the latest version of Android is important to you then I would say stay with the Moto X. If you want a perfect size device, with a great camera and don't mind waiting for Sony for lollipop and want a phone with amazing battery life (with heavy use I get over a day and a half with very minimal usage I've gotten 4 days!) I really am impressed with that device.. Much more than I thought I'd be. You can't really lose either way honestly.
I'm thinking to buy this phone but really confused ....can anyone write a small review of it and how is the development community
Typing this answer from my ZUK Z1 that I have been using since the last 3 months. Before using this phone, I used the MI3 for little over one year after which the motherboard got faulty and it would have costed a bomb to replace it, so thought of buying a new phone instead. I reviewed a lot of phones for one month before zeroing in on the Z1. He is a small review of the device.
Build*- The build quality of the phone is great. I am using the space grey model which has a matte finish at the back. The back has a subtle curve which helps to have a firm grip on the phone. However, I feel you'd still need a back cover as the phone is slim and could slip off from your hand easily.
Chipset*- Coming to the chipset, the Z1 uses a nearly 2.5 yrs old Snapdragon 801 which was a major factor for me choosing this device. I had used the 800 with my MI3 and the performance was phenomenal. Not even once in my year long heavy usage have I faced a single instance of lag or stutter and no matter what I threw at it, it simply knocked it out of the park. So I was looking for a phone that would have the 800 or a similar processor. The 801 is a flagship 32 bit chipset but can chew up any new low end 64 bit chipset like the 410 or 615 easily. The performance on the Z1 is overall smooth with occasional stutters. I still think the 800 was slightly better in terms of performance but there are many things to consider here, so I'd rank the 801 along the same lines as 800. In fact, the 801 excels in some areas which I will get to shortly. So performance wise, Z1 is top notch.
UI*- The Z1 runs on Cyanogen 12 based on Android 5.1 (lollipop). The OS is highly customizable and gives you a stock android experience. There is no bloatware on the OS. The COS 13 was supposed to be released for ZUK Z1 but it hasn't been released yet (not sure if it ever will be). However the CyanogenMod 13 based on Android 6 is available for the Z1.
Display*- The Z1 has a 5.5 inch full HD IPS LCD panel. Even though it's not as sharp and vivid as an AMOLED screen, but it is quite good. The colors are vibrant and the viewing angles are also good.
RAM and Storage*- The Z1 comes with 3 GB of RAM and 64 GB internal of which around 58 GB is available to the user. OTG is supported.
Camera*- 13 MP rear and 8 MP front shooters. It has Optical Image Stabilization and the images come out to be pretty good in outdoors and even under artificial lightning.
Heating*- Heating is a big concern for smartphone users these days. Surprisingly, the Z1 has minimal heating when compared to its peers, like the Moto G4 plus, which can heat upto 46C and above with extensive usage (20-30 mins). However, with the Z1, even with over an hour of gaming, I haven't noticed any significant heating issues. The MI3 used to heat more than the Z1 and this is where I think the 801 wins over the 800. Also with calls of over 20 mins, I haven't noticed any heating at all. However, be forewarned that many users have reported abnormal heating with their Z1 devices, so I guess that I just got lucky here.
Gaming*- Played Mortal Kombat X and Dead Trigger 2 and faced little to no lag at all. With MK X, I faced very little stutter at times, but most people won't even notice it. Overall, gaming is very smooth on the Z1. Even heavy games like Asphalt 8 and Nova 3 will run smooth.
Call Quality*- Very good. Haven't faced any issues with call quality, however the reception over 4G in my area is not so strong.
Battery*- 4100 mAh battery, which would easily last for 1.5 to even 2 days with moderate usage. Charging time takes around 2 hrs.
Some things that the Z1 lacks:
1. NFC
2. IR blaster.
3. Box doesn't come with earphones.
4. Front flash
Overall, I feel that the Z1 is a good device that you can buy within a budget of 15K rupees.
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How does the development scenario feel like to you? There aren't a lot of ROMs currently. What's the possibility of this getting Nougat (via CM14)?
Also, what would you recommend? This or the SD 650 powered Redmi Note 3?
Can we draw out the real differences between X Performance and XZ. I bought the X Performance already and now I feel I should have waited for the XZ.
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from what i gathered they are the same except the laser auto focus, everything else is just software improvements, i have an x performance dual and i love it, didn't even mod it yet cause its just amazing,
I also have X performance and I love it the camera is just limited on new 275 heat isn't a issue like 227 so they need to add 4k back to camera and unlock options so it's not just 8mp. Other then that I love it would like root on lb cause my carrier locks bl but all amd all I'm pretty happy replaced my Z3 with x performance but still carry Z3 cause I have cyberian camera on z3
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I like the looks of the X performance, and I might pickup the X compact, I like the lite blue color one, may be I can use the X compact as a spare phone, Have no intention of getting the XZ.
What made me recommend the performance was holding the XA (same body size) in my hand at best buy yesterday. It's the perfect size with the 5" screen and small bezels.
The diff in size is just mm. Screen is 0.2 inches bigger on XZ where X Performance has 13 ppi more
Camera, proc, ram is identical on both devices.
The XZ has a 2900 mAh battery, 200 more than the X has The XZ also has a USB-C connector !!
Camera controls are a bit better as it has more manual settings, ISO and shutter speed.
I have used my X performance for some time and waiting for the XZ to arrive any day )
The X Compact was to much plastic fantastic to my taste :-O
Either way, they are all very good devices!