So, my phone has to be encrypted to get corporate mail. Even though I have the silent boot up option checked it still makes a sound. I assume this is because when it first turns on it's not actually accessing my settings (It does the animation, asks for my pin and then "boots up" again) but I was wondering if anyone had any solutions.
Educated guess: the phone settings are stored in the /data partition which is the partition that's encrypted, so the settings can't be read at boot time. Disabling the boot sound would require root so it can be removed or replaced by silence I guess.
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So, my phone has to be encrypted to get corporate mail. Even though I have the silent boot up option checked it still makes a sound. I assume this is because when it first turns on it's not actually accessing my settings (It does the animation, asks for my pin and then "boots up" again) but I was wondering if anyone had any solutions.
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You might try Nine - Exchange ActiveSync email client. It allows the device administrator security policy to be applied to the application rather than the entire device, so full device encryption isn't required in order to use corporate exchange email.
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You might try Nine - Exchange ActiveSync email client. It allows the device administrator security policy to be applied to the application rather than the entire device, so full device encryption isn't required in order to use corporate exchange email.
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Does Nine sync your exchange calendar to the stock Sony calendar app?
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Does Nine sync your exchange calendar to the stock Sony calendar app?
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Yes, -- Email, Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, and Notes can all be synced. Stock calendar works, although I use Google Calendar app instead.
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Yes, -- Email, Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, and Notes can all be synced. Stock calendar works, although I use Google Calendar app instead.
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Have you ever used Touchdown? Any thoughts on Touchdown vs Nine?
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Touchdown works fine, but it hasn't been updated in a while and its user interface looks like it's from the 90s. I switched to Nine because it has a much nicer, modern interface and with the latest updates it also has some nice features Touchdown doesn't have. I'm using it in combination with Tasks & Notes because it's still lacking in that department although they're improving it constantly, both apps work very well together because they have a similar modern look and feel. Nine support is also very good, I once reported a small bug and it was fixed within 24 hours. I can really recommend it, we're using Zarafa with Z-Push and it works as good with it as it does with Exchange.
Any idea if Nine encrypts the application data when applying the security policy to the application level? Seems like a huge security liability if that's not the case.
I don't know, I'm using full system encryption (and Android L will do that by default).
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Any idea if Nine encrypts the application data when applying the security policy to the application level? Seems like a huge security liability if that's not the case.
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Yes, I believe that it does because it requires it's own application specific PIN which is probably used for the encryption key.
I emailed the support desk at Nine, and they responded (within 15 minutes at midnight!) that the cached and application data is not encrypted, but is in the plans. I bought the application anyways since the interface is so nice, but I look forward to when they get that implemented.
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I emailed the support desk at Nine, and they responded (within 15 minutes at midnight!) that the cached and application data is not encrypted, but is in the plans. I bought the application anyways since the interface is so nice, but I look forward to when they get that implemented.
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That's good to know, I just assumed the PIN was used for encryption but it looks like they require it only to satisfy the pin code requirement of the security policy.
I definitely like the interface and the active development. Since I started using Nine several months ago they've added Notes, Tasks, GAL photos, mark read on delete, etc., etc.
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Just downloaded and installed the new Touchdown update, that adds Push email.
I immediately paid for the license key after checking the program out.
Kickass App.
Not only does it give me push email for my exchange email, it also allows for multi-selecting emails for deletion.
Finally!!!.
Why Google couldn't have included this, is completely beyond me.
But when I evens ee what theme developers, as well as dxHome can do to chnage the look and feel of the phone, it seems to me that they did the bare minimum.
I still am hoping that future releases will see a much more smoother UI, and see some changes to add SOME eye candy to the Market and other pages.
As right now it's really quite drab and dreary.
Just like the original UI is very boring and bland.
I'm pretty certain the idea was, in fact, to do the bare minimum and then allow apps to extend the OS. It's good in thoery, but only once the apps start rolling in to fill the voids.
What I REALLY hope starts to happen is the ability to REMOVE stock apps once new ones start coming in. I already cant stand having both Mail and K9Mail, Messenging and K9SMS, COntacts and StarContact... that quickly bloats the app drawer and wastes memory.
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Just downloaded and installed the new Touchdown update, that adds Push email.
I immediately paid for the license key after checking the program out.
Kickass App.
Not only does it give me push email for my exchange email, it also allows for multi-selecting emails for deletion.
Finally!!!.
Why Google couldn't have included this, is completely beyond me.
But when I evens ee what theme developers, as well as dxHome can do to chnage the look and feel of the phone, it seems to me that they did the bare minimum.
I still am hoping that future releases will see a much more smoother UI, and see some changes to add SOME eye candy to the Market and other pages.
As right now it's really quite drab and dreary.
Just like the original UI is very boring and bland.
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I downloaded this over the weekend and tried to get it working with no luck. I tried both the 2007 and 2003 configuration, with and without it taking the server certificate. Both failed to work for me.
I wish I could get a working exchange software. Its the only thing missing from well almost from Android
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I downloaded this over the weekend and tried to get it working with no luck. I tried both the 2007 and 2003 configuration, with and without it taking the server certificate. Both failed to work for me.
I wish I could get a working exchange software. Its the only thing missing from well almost from Android
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I had a heck of a time getting it to work.
Untill I followed their PDF instructions to the letter.
And it worked immediatly.
Been using it since it was first released. Took me all of 3 minutes use to buy it back in November. I've been part of their beta program since then as well, and the 2.0 versions are just getting better and better.
I've been using it since initial release, then have been using beta builds, works great with pull and push for me. I'm on exchange 2003, support for the app is great, had few issues in early releases, worked with support and they resolved everything in no time.
overall great app, I've stopped using blackberry while ago.
How does the PUSH mail work
I have just installed the new version of Touchdown
it works perfectly, but how does the Push mail service work!!!
in a Blackberry the server updates the phone once a message arrives, but with touchdown no service is activated from the server, so how does the software do it??
Does it keep an internet connection open all the time? if so when my desktop is on and the message is downloaded directly to my Outlook, will it be able to get a copy before it is downloaded to my PC???
i have a limited data plan and that will make a big difference in my bytes consuption
Exchange Push and Touchdown
If you have not had push enabled previously, you will need to configure it from within you Exchange System Manager (Global Setting -> Mobile Services) and enable for your user account in the Active Directory Users and Computers App (Exchange Features - > Mobile Services). Once this is setup, you can follow the instruction provided by NitroDesk to validate and enable push support.
As messages are received by your exchange server, the server sends a message to your configured cellular providers messaging service - which basic sends a text message notification to your phone telling it that you have new mail on the server. The phone's email client then goes out to retrieve it. Operating this way avoids the need to have the email client continuously check the server for new email.
I hope this helps.
I currently have a problem with Touchdown inwhich the push services turn off soon after being enabled. Status goes from "Push Active" to "Push Off" on the main Touchdown screen. Does anyone have any words of wisdom?
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I currently have a problem with Touchdown inwhich the push services turn off soon after being enabled. Status goes from "Push Active" to "Push Off" on the main Touchdown screen. Does anyone have any words of wisdom?
Thx
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I had the same problem. First check under connection that you have your full e-mail address written. Then under advanced re sync your folders and then under connection try again the active sync. If you don't get an error message when checking for active sync it should work.
do you need to have a static IP on your ISP end in order for this to work?
I'm running exchange server 2003 and want to test TouchDown and hopefully switch off my bb.
Thanks
Can anyone suggest a fully featured exchange email client? The stock one is missing what i feel are two key features:
Search and auto correct
I like the UI and the full integration with stock contacts/calendar. Also, the stock one seems to run into security errors or other unknown reasons why it won't sync and i have to add and remove the account to get it working.
Touchdown seems slapped together for the tablets and wants me to confirm everything, which is very annoying. Also, it isn't integrated with the stock stuff.
I use Touchdown on my phone and my tablet. You only have to pay for it once and it loads on both. It works very well and has tons of features.
I know you said you did not like Touchdown, but that is what I use on my Xoom as well. I do not mind the layout and while quirky at times it still gets the job done better than the stock email client.
The two biggest problems I have with touchdown are that it isn't integrated with the rest of the android system (calendar/contacts) and that it constantly pops up little warning windows... why do I need a warning when I send an email? There are other little things about the layout that bother me, such as the email action buttons that are too small, the inability to delete an email right from the main screen, etc.
I guess what I really want is Outlook on my android
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The two biggest problems I have with touchdown are that it isn't integrated with the rest of the android system (calendar/contacts) and that it constantly pops up little warning windows... why do I need a warning when I send an email? There are other little things about the layout that bother me, such as the email action buttons that are too small, the inability to delete an email right from the main screen, etc.
I guess what I really want is Outlook on my android
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You can disable the warning windows for sending/deleting emails. You can also delete emails from the main screen by long pressing on that email and hitting Delete, FYI.
Am also using TD on my Xoom. Don't love it (stock was prettier) but lack of Search on stock Xoom client is a killer. I'm probably going to return my Xoom this weekend and try to pickup a GT 10.1 in NYC next week...we'll see if it has a different client (doubt it but their KB is diff anyway).
+1 for touchdown, you do need to tweak a couple settings like mentioned above but the MAIN thing "I" like is that it allows me to keep my business email separate from my personal.
I have been using Touchdown since I first purchased my G1. When I bought the Xoom I was able to get the email app to work to synchorize my work emails and calendar. This was OK, but I soon went back to TD for two reasons:
1) Since I don't necessarily want to see work emails on days I don't work (4 day schedule), the ability to turn off push on a schedule is a real plus.
2) Keeping work email segregated from personal lets me keep my sanity.
After the 3.1 update I went back to TD. Nice to see the registration from when I used it on my G1 still worked. It's feature set is great. I really wish they would overhaul the UI...it's flat out fugly. If they made the app with some curb appeal, it could gain traction as a serious alternative.
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Hi Guys,
I am trying to find an email client which supports Microsoft Exchange / Activeysinc, and which can support multiple folders syncing. Right now i am using Note's stock email app, which is reasonable, but will only update the Inbox.
I however, have a large folder structure coupled with many server rules which automatically move the mails into their designated folder, so only updating the inbox is definetly not enough for me, because i can receive new emails in those folders but the mail client will not alert me when they arrive... instead, you have to go in each folder and update it manually, which is a real pain.
So, back to the original question: can you point me to an advanced email client who can do the above (automatically sync all folders and alert me when i receive new message in all of them, not only in inbox).
Many thanks in advance for your help!
regards,
devlin-ro
Moxier Mail. Not cheap for the priviledge but it does as you ask and has a trial so you can test it before you buy.
I really like Touchdown by NitroDesk. You can sync any folders you want, and works for not only email, but also other Exchange functions. It's kind of expensive, but I find it's often on sale at the Amazon app store.
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Have you tried k9 mail ?
thepartybeaver said:
I really like Touchdown by NitroDesk. You can sync any folders you want, and works for not only email, but also other Exchange functions. It's kind of expensive, but I find it's often on sale at the Amazon app store.
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I like touchdown except for a couple things:
One, in the sea of settings, there's no setting to have it default to classic view; I have to switch manually each time I open the app. I like the newer view except that in portrait mode most of the screen is wasted space. I want more emails shown.
Two, poor battery life. There were other contributors, but I disabled push, switching to polling once every 24 hrs, and better battery stats still showed a huge number of wake locks. So now I keep it frozen with titanium backup until I really need it, like doing a server search.
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One, in the sea of settings, there's no setting to have it default to classic view; I have to switch manually each time I open the app.
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I agree with you there. I currently have the version from the Android App store, which doesn't have that option for the view. I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one that couldn't find a way to turn it off.
I've been watching BetterBatteryStats, and I haven't had an issue with it using up my battery. Actually, K9 Mail is the one that kills mine.
Hi to all of you!
Many thanks for your replies. I actually tried Moxier and Touchdown, but I could not configure Moxier while Touchdown worked like a breeze... so I stayed with Touchdown. Currently I am using it in evaluation period and it looks ok to me (does what I need). I configured it to only update manually, so I did not see any issues with battery (so far, at least).
Once again, many thanks for the sugestions!
All the best,
Devlin-ro
Coming from iPhone, I love the hardware. But, OS still seems to have some glitches. My biggest issue right not is email. My work email provides IMAP push IDLE, and never had problem with iPhone having email pushed immediately into my inbox.
Samsung or Android default email has been nothing but a headache. I've checked all the settings concerning sync include data usage > sync, etc, but the email will not sync. The funny thing is if I clear cash/data and reboot, reset the email account, PUSH will work for about 2-3 hours, then stops. It won't even pull by interval, and the only way to receive new email is to manually sync.
I've done it a number of times, and it always works for about a few hours, then simply stops. I've checked off peak schedule and any other settings that might interfere with push.
This is year 2013, and I cannot believe that a flagship android phone cannot push email consistently. This is true with my GMAIL as well. Is anyone else having the same issue? Doing a quick search, it seems like many people are having the same issue, and have given up. Having email pushed immediately is a very important feature for me, and I can't imagine android OS that's been around for many years hasn't figured this out. There seems to be no support from Samsungs's end.
If anyone can shed light, I'd really apprecaite it.
+1. I am using an LG G2 instead and all emails sync in real time with Push, no issues at all. However, on the N3 it just will not work, even after changing all the sync schedules and settings. If anyone know how to work around this, it would be awesome.
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This is year 2013, and I cannot believe that a flagship android phone cannot push email consistently.
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Agreed. Mine shows the same symptoms. It's like amateur night at the clown college of software engineers.
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There seems to be no support from Samsungs's end.
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Actually, it seems push email support is just a rumor, and Samsung denies it.
What an embarrassment.
I don't get why is there a Push option if it doesn't work.. I thought it was a bug.
I've heard good things about K9 mail client from the Play Store and it has push functionality.
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Coming from iPhone, I love the hardware. But, OS still seems to have some glitches. My biggest issue right not is email. My work email provides IMAP push IDLE, and never had problem with iPhone having email pushed immediately into my inbox.
Samsung or Android default email has been nothing but a headache. I've checked all the settings concerning sync include data usage > sync, etc, but the email will not sync. The funny thing is if I clear cash/data and reboot, reset the email account, PUSH will work for about 2-3 hours, then stops. It won't even pull by interval, and the only way to receive new email is to manually sync.
I've done it a number of times, and it always works for about a few hours, then simply stops. I've checked off peak schedule and any other settings that might interfere with push.
This is year 2013, and I cannot believe that a flagship android phone cannot push email consistently. This is true with my GMAIL as well. Is anyone else having the same issue? Doing a quick search, it seems like many people are having the same issue, and have given up. Having email pushed immediately is a very important feature for me, and I can't imagine android OS that's been around for many years hasn't figured this out. There seems to be no support from Samsungs's end.
If anyone can shed light, I'd really apprecaite it.
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Not really helpful to your scenario, but I haven't had problems with push notifications using the baked in email client or with gmail.
Base email is tied via IMAP to an account on a webmail server I run.
Gmail is tied to my corporate google apps account.
Rooted on N900AUCUBMI1 baseband here.
Not that you should need a root to get this functionality, but maybe it would help?
Which baseband are you on? Maybe Push is broken in the newer build.
I've had trouble running stock on MI9, then rooted on MI1 and MI9. The type of email client doesn't seem to matter.
Odd. I am using Gmail for a few mail accounts and get quick delivery and all works fine. I have not tried the baked in email client on my Note 3, but I use it (with exchange) on my Note 2 without issue.
I guess instant mail delivery on my personal accounts isn't that critical to me but I can feel your pain.
If you are rooted, have you disabled any apps even remotely related to email?
If you are using gmail, do you have IMAP enabled within the Web client?
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I am running everything stock. I haven't rooted it yet, but will eventually give it a go when the firmware matures a little.
I am able to get a quick delivery on GMAIL app. But, I think something is seriously broken with the stock email app. Most people will say that push is not a supported feature. But, it works for an hour or two, then it will stop working. Bigger issue is that it doesn't fetch emails reliably even with intervals set. The top status will say the last synced time, but the emails never arrive in my inbox until I load manually.
Given that Samsung cheated on the benchmarking score, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Samsung intentionally disabling push and pull feature. Just a guess. In fact, when I enable everything I used to run on iPhone (location service, bluetooth, wifi, google services, etc), N3 battery life falls pretty fast. I wonder if Samsung intentionally cropped polling for push to increase battery life.
Regardless, if push doesn't work property, this phone is not ready as a business tool. I spent the whole afternoon trying different combination, and I am about to give up. The only thing I haven't done is root, but I am not sure how that would affect the situation. I am also trying to find some sort of bug report page, but haven't found one.
This is a pretty major issue as my work requires immediate delivery of emails. I am keeping my fingers crossed until somebody crack this.
Spent the whole day resetting, deleting, adding account, playing with all sorts of sync settings, etc, and came to conclusion that the default email app is a horribly broken piece of junk. Keeping track of fetch interval and the stamp of the messages shows it cannot even pull the email on time from the server.
So I installed Evomail. What a difference! The app is beautifully designed, and has no problem pushing all my emails instantly. I am not sure if I am sold on the gesture thing as you can accidentally delete emails, but the icon has taken over the stock email on the bottom of the screen permanently for now. Wish Samsung would've done a better job on one of the email app.
I love the idea of OK Google Now, but have been told that it won't work if you are running an Exchange email account. Apparently, when you talk to it, you have to manually unlock the screen before it will do its thing.
Here's my question. Is there a way to disable the lock screen, so OGN can work hands free?
Thanks in advanc.
Use touchdown for exchange instead of native email app... even if it didn't do this I would recommend it.. Best exchange integration since leaving Blackberry..
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johnmolino said:
Use touchdown for exchange instead of native email app... even if it didn't do this I would recommend it.. Best exchange integration since leaving Blackberry..
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Do you, in fact, know whether Touchdown doesn't require a lock screen?
Thanks.
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Do you, in fact, know whether Touchdown doesn't require a lock screen?
Thanks.
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Touchdown has it's own pin screen separate from the phones lock screen. So it still fulfills the Exchange requirements without locking up your phone.
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Touchdown has it's own pin screen separate from the phones lock screen. So it still fulfills the Exchange requirements without locking up your phone.
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So, "OK, Google Now," will work hands-free without having to manually unlock the Moto X if I use Touchdown?
BTW, I'm buying a Moto X tomorrow, thus the questions.
Much appreciated.
On the topic of the email client and Exchange Active Sync, the only OK Google Now function that works with a PIN or password lock screen is to make phone calls. I have the Moto X with an Exchange account set up using the default client and all I can do hands free at the lock screen is make phone calls. I'm no expert but one would think an Exchange Active Sync policy to enforce a lock screen PIN or password is determined by the account set up and not by the email application used. Just my 2 cents...
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So, "OK, Google Now," will work hands-free without having to manually unlock the Moto X if I use Touchdown?
BTW, I'm buying a Moto X tomorrow, thus the questions.
Much appreciated.
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Touchdown sets up its own little sandbox that all the activesync policies will be applied to. So you can use the rest of the phone without locking if you choose. There are also Exchange policy bypass solutions out there if you have root.
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Touchdown sets up its own little sandbox that all the activesync policies will be applied to. So you can use the rest of the phone without locking if you choose. There are also Exchange policy bypass solutions out there if you have root.
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I found that I could select None in the Security settings to bypass the lockscreen. So, now I can just say OK, Google Now and everything works flawlessly.
Problem solved!
For those who have enforced security settings, like me, selecting None, or anything your IT guys don't allow, won't be an option. In that case you can root, install Xposed, and then one of the Exchange security bypass modules within Xposed. If you already have the security restrictions in place, remove and re-add the Exchange account from your phone.
I went through all this just so I could use a NFC Skip tag in my car's holder with Google Now. I still use a PIN as only an idiot would walk around with a completely unlocked phone all the time.
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I use the stock Exchange app and don't love the restrictions that it put son my device (because it takes the functionality of the phone away). I looked at Touchdown as a replacement, but it doesn't seem to integrate the calendar. I don't really care much about reading my email on my phone, I mostly just delete stuff I don't need or see if there is something real urgent to go to my PC for.
What I do value a lot from it is my calendar. I have my Outlook calendar synced as well and it merges with my Google calendar (and my girlfriend's Google calendar) in my agenda widget on my home screen.
That said, are there any good apps (free or pay) that can do an Exchange calendar only, and potentially don't require the same restrictions as the full setup? OR, can I get the calendar from Touchdown to integrate into my Google Calendar app/agenda widget somehow?
I suspect it probably isn't possible, but I'd love if it was.