[Q] Email not syncing (reproducible) - AT&T Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Coming from iPhone, I love the hardware. But, OS still seems to have some glitches. My biggest issue right not is email. My work email provides IMAP push IDLE, and never had problem with iPhone having email pushed immediately into my inbox.
Samsung or Android default email has been nothing but a headache. I've checked all the settings concerning sync include data usage > sync, etc, but the email will not sync. The funny thing is if I clear cash/data and reboot, reset the email account, PUSH will work for about 2-3 hours, then stops. It won't even pull by interval, and the only way to receive new email is to manually sync.
I've done it a number of times, and it always works for about a few hours, then simply stops. I've checked off peak schedule and any other settings that might interfere with push.
This is year 2013, and I cannot believe that a flagship android phone cannot push email consistently. This is true with my GMAIL as well. Is anyone else having the same issue? Doing a quick search, it seems like many people are having the same issue, and have given up. Having email pushed immediately is a very important feature for me, and I can't imagine android OS that's been around for many years hasn't figured this out. There seems to be no support from Samsungs's end.
If anyone can shed light, I'd really apprecaite it.

+1. I am using an LG G2 instead and all emails sync in real time with Push, no issues at all. However, on the N3 it just will not work, even after changing all the sync schedules and settings. If anyone know how to work around this, it would be awesome.

verendus said:
This is year 2013, and I cannot believe that a flagship android phone cannot push email consistently.
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Agreed. Mine shows the same symptoms. It's like amateur night at the clown college of software engineers.
verendus said:
There seems to be no support from Samsungs's end.
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Actually, it seems push email support is just a rumor, and Samsung denies it.
What an embarrassment.

I don't get why is there a Push option if it doesn't work.. I thought it was a bug.

I've heard good things about K9 mail client from the Play Store and it has push functionality.

verendus said:
Coming from iPhone, I love the hardware. But, OS still seems to have some glitches. My biggest issue right not is email. My work email provides IMAP push IDLE, and never had problem with iPhone having email pushed immediately into my inbox.
Samsung or Android default email has been nothing but a headache. I've checked all the settings concerning sync include data usage > sync, etc, but the email will not sync. The funny thing is if I clear cash/data and reboot, reset the email account, PUSH will work for about 2-3 hours, then stops. It won't even pull by interval, and the only way to receive new email is to manually sync.
I've done it a number of times, and it always works for about a few hours, then simply stops. I've checked off peak schedule and any other settings that might interfere with push.
This is year 2013, and I cannot believe that a flagship android phone cannot push email consistently. This is true with my GMAIL as well. Is anyone else having the same issue? Doing a quick search, it seems like many people are having the same issue, and have given up. Having email pushed immediately is a very important feature for me, and I can't imagine android OS that's been around for many years hasn't figured this out. There seems to be no support from Samsungs's end.
If anyone can shed light, I'd really apprecaite it.
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Not really helpful to your scenario, but I haven't had problems with push notifications using the baked in email client or with gmail.
Base email is tied via IMAP to an account on a webmail server I run.
Gmail is tied to my corporate google apps account.
Rooted on N900AUCUBMI1 baseband here.
Not that you should need a root to get this functionality, but maybe it would help?
Which baseband are you on? Maybe Push is broken in the newer build.

I've had trouble running stock on MI9, then rooted on MI1 and MI9. The type of email client doesn't seem to matter.

Odd. I am using Gmail for a few mail accounts and get quick delivery and all works fine. I have not tried the baked in email client on my Note 3, but I use it (with exchange) on my Note 2 without issue.
I guess instant mail delivery on my personal accounts isn't that critical to me but I can feel your pain.
If you are rooted, have you disabled any apps even remotely related to email?
If you are using gmail, do you have IMAP enabled within the Web client?
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I am running everything stock. I haven't rooted it yet, but will eventually give it a go when the firmware matures a little.
I am able to get a quick delivery on GMAIL app. But, I think something is seriously broken with the stock email app. Most people will say that push is not a supported feature. But, it works for an hour or two, then it will stop working. Bigger issue is that it doesn't fetch emails reliably even with intervals set. The top status will say the last synced time, but the emails never arrive in my inbox until I load manually.
Given that Samsung cheated on the benchmarking score, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Samsung intentionally disabling push and pull feature. Just a guess. In fact, when I enable everything I used to run on iPhone (location service, bluetooth, wifi, google services, etc), N3 battery life falls pretty fast. I wonder if Samsung intentionally cropped polling for push to increase battery life.
Regardless, if push doesn't work property, this phone is not ready as a business tool. I spent the whole afternoon trying different combination, and I am about to give up. The only thing I haven't done is root, but I am not sure how that would affect the situation. I am also trying to find some sort of bug report page, but haven't found one.
This is a pretty major issue as my work requires immediate delivery of emails. I am keeping my fingers crossed until somebody crack this.

Spent the whole day resetting, deleting, adding account, playing with all sorts of sync settings, etc, and came to conclusion that the default email app is a horribly broken piece of junk. Keeping track of fetch interval and the stamp of the messages shows it cannot even pull the email on time from the server.
So I installed Evomail. What a difference! The app is beautifully designed, and has no problem pushing all my emails instantly. I am not sure if I am sold on the gesture thing as you can accidentally delete emails, but the icon has taken over the stock email on the bottom of the screen permanently for now. Wish Samsung would've done a better job on one of the email app.

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AIM/e-mail problems with AT&T Tilt

I have a new AT&T Tilt, straight out of the box with no modifications. I have it set up to track my Yahoo email account and my AIM account. However, both of them have big problems updating. On AIM, it takes almost a half-hour to receive or send a message after the message is actually sent. The email client is also telling me there are no new emails, even though I actually received emails in that account over four hours ago. I'm using the default IM client for AIM, because I have unlimited SMS with my plan, and I need to have AIM open all the time and be able to receive IMs even when the phone is asleep. I don't see why it should take this long regardless, considering I have three (or at least two) bars on EDGE at all times.
Does anyone else have this problem and/or know how to fix it, is possible? I need to be able to send and receive IMs and e-mails instantly at any time, and if the Tilt can't do that, then I need to find a different phone, which is a shame, because I really like the other features and the phone in general.
are you paying for your internet service?
Yes, I have a plan with unlimited data and SMS.
What is the deal with this phone? I just sent an email and it arrived over three hours later. I am required to have working email for my job, and this can hardly be considered working. What is wrong here? I don't see how all the other working professionals here can possibly be accepting of this and still consider it a good phone if it can't even handle simple email and IM. This is insane, considering no other phone offered by AT&T has this many useful features, and if I have to replace this phone it will certainly be a downgrade.
I don't think anyone else is having the same problems as you, which is why you're not finding anyone agree with your complaints.
Usually if you send an email and it arrives late, it's usually because of etiher the sending or receiving mail server, not because of the sending device. I have confidence that the email got from your phone to the email server just fine, and in a very reasonable amount of time.
Also, is there no 3G in your area?
AIM (instant messaging, not email) has always been delayed on all of the windows mobile devices I have used over the years (& on both Tmobile & at&t).
ATT is much faster than Tmob, but there is still a huge delay. That's why I stopped using IM'ing altogether.
As for emails, I set up an exchange email address on my website because for the last couple of weeks I have been unable to send or receive any emails through my AOL account. I have been going back & forth with AOL's tech support this whole time. My emails worked for a just one day during this whole time, & hasnt worked since! Whenever somebody emails me it tells them my mailbox is full even though I only have 29 emails! I erased all of the messages in my spam, sent & trash folders & still nothing. My AOL is what I have been using for many years for everything, its even on my website & all of my business card!
No as for the delayed messages, you may want to look into Push mail (using an exchange server). Do a search for it here & you'll see there are quite a few solutions (some free, some not). Push mail is essentially "instant" if you set it up that way & have decent reception.
I don't see how there could be problems with the email server, I'm using Yahoo mail, and I can send/receive emails fine with my PC, but if I email someone from my phone it take hours for them to get it, and if I receive an email, it takes hours for it to show up on the phone (though it still appears in my inbox instantly if I access it from my PC).
DJayRage, I'm not talking about delayed IMs, I'm talking about it would be FASTER for me to get in my car, drive across the state and tell them personally.
Also, I was told there was 3G in my area, but whenever I scan for service it auto-connects to EDGE, so I assume that's not the case.
I wish I could blame this on something other than my phone, but when it doesn't work, and nobody else is having this problem, I don't see what else there is to blame. Everything on my phone is stock. I'm using the Xpress mail thing or whatever it's called, and the 3-in-1 IM client that comes with the phone, so there aren't any 3rd party mods or anything that could be interfering.
Oh that may be your problem (Xpress mail). When I purchased my Tilt a couple of month's ago the ATT salesman told me not to use it because they've had nothing but problems with it. He wasn't specific, & I didn't ask what problems they were having. I use the built in mail app & that works fine for me. I get my Gmail, my Push mail & my AOL (when it's working) through there with no problems.
How do I do that? On the phone and in the instruction manual it said I needed to get the Xpress mail to check my yahoo mail. Also, do you think that using the built-in AIM client is what is causing the slowness, and that a 3-rd party app would work better?
Click on the envelope button on the button right hand side of your device. That opens up the default WM messaging application.
Once in there click menu - tools - new account. That's where you setup your accounts & options (since you want your emails sent & received as quickly as possible make sure to select "send & receive every 5 minutes". Also check off the the box in adanced settings that says "send mail when I click send" or something like that). Those options may drain your battery faster but that's about as quick as you can get emails, short of using a PC or setting up a Push Mail type account.
I never even opened up the manual that came with my Tilt. Any questions I had with my device I found answers for them here by searching (hint...)
Have you checked if you have 3G in your area?
I've yet to use the AIM app on my Tilt so I can't help you with that. Everytime I log-in to AIM I get random rappers spamming me trying to get me to check out their music.
How do I check if I have 3G in my area? Whenever I connect to the internet and it says searching for EDGE/3G, it always just connects to EDGE, so I assumed I don't get 3G. It's actually weird because other people have told me that we do get 3G around here.
Where are you located? You can check here to see if your area has 3G
http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/popUp_3g.jsp
DJayRage said:
Click on the envelope button on the button right hand side of your device. That opens up the default WM messaging application.
Once in there click menu - tools - new account. That's where you setup your accounts & options (since you want your emails sent & received as quickly as possible make sure to select "send & receive every 5 minutes". Also check off the the box in adanced settings that says "send mail when I click send" or something like that). Those options may drain your battery faster but that's about as quick as you can get emails, short of using a PC or setting up a Push Mail type account.
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When I push the envelope button, it brings me to the same thing it brings me for my old email account. There is no Tools option in the menu, and when I click the new account button on the screen, it gives me the same setup I went through to set up my current account after installing the xpress mail thing. There is also no option in the options menu for the s&r every 5 mins or the other thing, either.
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i use im+ for iming. Its realtime and im on edge network with T-Mobile and no delays.
as for the email... maybe your push setting is at every few hours?
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Sorry for the delayed response but I'm still not getting my aol emails, which is what I registered on here with. Can you install Capsure (free app that you will find here with a quick search) & send me a screen shot of what your email inbox looks like? I never used Xpress mail, but it sounds like Xpress Mail took over the Envelope button so it goes there instead of the WM6 Inbox (default).
You may try reassinging it start > settings > personal > buttons > (mine shows button 2 assigned to "messaging", what does yours show?).
PS my email address that you can send the screen shot to is rage at djayrage.com
By the way there's an ATT store by my job & the sales guys come into the building I work at all the time (dropping off phones to clients) so I asked one of the them the other day more details about Xpress Mail (this was the same guy that sold me my phone & told me NOT TO use Xpress Mail).
He said Xpress Mail fetches your emails, stores it somewhere on ATT's server's, & then eventually "pushes" it to your device. (Opposite operation for emails being sent). So that may be what is causing the lengthy delays. You may have new emails sitting in your email providers inbox, but they may not be on Xpress Mail's servers yet.
Just use the default Messaging application & cut out the middle man (Xpress Mail).
Well, it was set to messaging, so I guess it wasn't using Xpress Mail after all, regardless, I uninstalled Xpress Mail, deleted my email account, and added it again, so hopefully it will work better this time.
I will also try IM+ as well and see if it works better.
Any updates? How's your emails working now?

Gmail push mail thoughts.

OK folks, does anyone have any recommendations for Gmail push mail for the Kaiser?
Gmail App: Either adding this to your phone, or using it online on your phone seems to work well, but, unless I'm an idiot, there is no push--you have to check your e-mail manually. That kinda kills it.
emoze: http://www.emoze.com/en/get/index.asp. This is a neat little app that you install on your phone, and it seems to log you into a server that checks your Gmail (or Yahoo, whatever) and then pushes whatever it finds there to your phone. However, this seems relatively buggy and unreliable. One, if it works when you send an email, not long after it will download that sent email to your phone and tell you you have an email. Two, it wants to fiddle with your activesync settings which don't seem to work too well.
mobiPush: At http://www.mobiPush.com. Well, this seems unreliable, or at least, slow as hell. Now, being used to text messages, maybe the speed is normal for push mail, I don't know. Oddly enough, it won't connect to the internet when I have my USB cable plugged in, even though I have "Allow wireless connections" checked in activesync.
mail2web live: http://services.mail2web.com/FreeServices/. I have no idea, I haven't tried it.
Does anyone have any thoughts on these? Other suggestions? Want to point out my glaring errors? Feel free, and thanks!
Do you have issues w/ Imap? I have mine setup to check every 15 or 30 minutes and only keep 3 days of messages on my phone so it doesn't get too cluttered. I dont have the issue of sending an email and having the sent message show up as new when using this manner either. Just a thought/suggestion.
My gmail pushes to kaiser perfectly fine...
It's an option in Gmail you have to set.
Seven
http://community.seven.com/main.php
this pushes email great for me
fiddelm3742 said:
Do you have issues w/ Imap? I have mine setup to check every 15 or 30 minutes and only keep 3 days of messages on my phone so it doesn't get too cluttered. I dont have the issue of sending an email and having the sent message show up as new when using this manner either. Just a thought/suggestion.
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I just found that and set it up, thank you!
What I'm trying to avoid is having the phone check for email, and it seems that with Gmail IMAP you have to tell the phone to check at whatever intervals you want.
redsrule2500 said:
My gmail pushes to kaiser perfectly fine...
It's an option in Gmail you have to set.
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Where exactly do you see this option?
redsrule2500 said:
My gmail pushes to kaiser perfectly fine...
It's an option in Gmail you have to set.
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When you say it's "an option in Gmail you have to set," can you be more specific?
It seems that by setting up IMAP the phone has to check, Gmail isn't pushing mail to the phone automatically, is it? There doesn't seem to be a reason for the phone to check if Gmail is pushing.
Thoughts? And thank you!
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Where exactly do you see this option?
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I second that.
What the 2 guys before me said.
Gmail itself seems curiously silent about this one. Especially because it would be a MASSIVE boon to their business...
Bueller? Anyone? Anyone?
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mobiPush: At http://www.mobiPush.com. Well, this seems unreliable, or at least, slow as hell. Now, being used to text messages, maybe the speed is normal for push mail, I don't know. Oddly enough, it won't connect to the internet when I have my USB cable plugged in, even though I have "Allow wireless connections" checked in activesync.
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As it turns out, the USB issue was a different issue all together. That's just Activesync being kinda crappy. D'oh!
That doesn't make mobiPush suddenly awesome, just that it had nothing to do with them. Heh.
what about Flexmail? It has IMAP IDLE support which will function like push email. If you set up the Gmail IMAP account under the program, it should automatically notify you when new emails are received.
Check the Hacking and Development area for ImapPusherService. I haven't gotten it to work on mine yet, but others have had good success. It isn't perfect, but as long as you don't SR very often it should work no problem. Downside, if you do a SR you have to relaunch the program and reenter your username and password.
I was just going to say the same thing having read this thread last night but not replied. ImapPusherService is what you're after. Very fast and works well. It's going to be THE software for pushing email to windows mobile.
FYI if you haven't got it working you should dump the tracking file and send it to the developer but before you do this try putting recent: before your username like this recent:username
and here's the link
http://www.codeplex.com/ImapPusherService
BTW Seven in my experience is poor. Use it if you want an email client that doesn't push but simply checks for email every 5 minutes and takes up memory. Oh wait. pocket outlook does this without taking up extra memory!
cheese74 said:
what about Flexmail? It has IMAP IDLE support which will function like push email. If you set up the Gmail IMAP account under the program, it should automatically notify you when new emails are received.
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Thanks for the heads up, I'll have to check into this, as it ain't free. I must say that gives me a bit more confidence as I bought Pocket Informant recently. That program goes a bit overboard, but it does what they say it will do.
Gracias.
knmwt15000 said:
I was just going to say the same thing having read this thread last night but not replied. ImapPusherService is what you're after. Very fast and works well. It's going to be THE software for pushing email to windows mobile.
FYI if you haven't got it working you should dump the tracking file and send it to the developer but before you do this try putting recent: before your username like this recent:username
and here's the link
http://www.codeplex.com/ImapPusherService
BTW Seven in my experience is poor. Use it if you want an email client that doesn't push but simply checks for email every 5 minutes and takes up memory. Oh wait. pocket outlook does this without taking up extra memory!
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what do you mean check for email every 5 minutes? seven isn't push?
Why use an app? go to your Gmail page and enable pop ( under settings ) Works great for me. I have mine saving 1 weeks worth of emails on the phone, automatically downloading all attachments, as well as updating every 5 minutes.... Never had an issue. I use my gmail rather than my blackberry email from work because the Kaiser handles mail SOOOOOO much better with attachments.
I am using Flexmail as well and found it the best solution so far for push Gmail. Setup was relatively easy and I like the advanced folder management options that Flexmail provides. Also, html formatting is a big plus.
I tried Seven, mobipush, emoze, and mail2web. All of them had some disadvantages such as bulky background client, slow receive/send, instability with other apps, and 3rd party reply-to address (mail2web). Flexmail is well worth the cost as it connects to the Gmail imap servers directly and I typically receive emails in my phone within 10 seconds of it actually appearing on Gmail web-mail.
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what do you mean check for email every 5 minutes? seven isn't push?
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In my experience it is not. I set it up and intermittently sent test emails to my address. Got new mail exactly every 5 mins....
knmwt15000 said:
I was just going to say the same thing having read this thread last night but not replied. ImapPusherService is what you're after. Very fast and works well. It's going to be THE software for pushing email to windows mobile.
FYI if you haven't got it working you should dump the tracking file and send it to the developer but before you do this try putting recent: before your username like this recent:username
and here's the link
http://www.codeplex.com/ImapPusherService
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Thanks for the heads up on this one. As a plus: it's Free, and that's brilliant. It's small, doesn't use up much space, memory, et cetera. However, it only seems to work intermittently, and that's just not worth the trouble.
posted in DCD'd Titan Rom 3.2.5 ROM as well....
Don't know where the error is. Reflashed 3.2.5 three times, same error. Just to put it out there.... anyone using the beta program Seven for pushing email?
Gmail worked before but will not connect from the Gmail shortcut from the login screen. Yahoo and Hotmail shortcuts work fine. Went in to "Other Pop Accounts" and added Gmail there and worked fine.
Note: No issues at all regarding this with 3.2.3

Email hangs on "disconnecting"

It's taken me a while but now I am convinced that no matter if I have my Fuze connected to charger or not, every morning is it hung up on email "disconnecting" and I usually have to soft boot. Sometimes I can change applications, sometimes it won't let me, to cause the email program to resume. I have it set to periodically check my email every 2 hours, and it does get some email, but then hangs and doesn't get the rest until I can un-hang it. Anyone know what the problem is? I'm using the original ROM. TIA
Solution?
Did you ever find a solution for this?? I am having the same problem...
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Joao
No.
The only thing I can do is whenever I want to get email is to either reboot or sometimes I can force is to disconnect, select a different email account and try to log in.
May be,just may be, you have a 'bad' email(s) in your inbox. It affect the sync process.
I once had this problem with my windowslive live account, I cleaned my inbox and I wz able to sync normally.
This is just a probablilty,,,
Xue v.2 said:
May be,just may be, you have a 'bad' email(s) in your inbox. It affect the sync process.
I once had this problem with my windowslive live account, I cleaned my inbox and I wz able to sync normally.
This is just a probablilty,,,
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Not likely. This has been going on for over 5 months, and I only store mail for 3 days. Sometimes I have to delete the account completely from the Fuze, and start over new. Then it will work for a while. Very frustrating, especially coming from Blackberrys which worked flawlessly for over 5 years.
by the mean 'inbox' i meant about server inbox,,,
well, blackberry sell its email service since 5 years ago, while WinMo OS introduced this pushmail service like,,, a year?
but still, we HTC owner deserve more
HTC: when beauty meets intelligence and power,
Blackberry: email, email, email, email, and prestige,,, LoL
(I'm an iPhone and BB hater LoL LoL, a lot of ppl in my country bought those devices only for its prestige,,,sigh)
Xue v.2 said:
by the mean 'inbox' i meant about server inbox,,,
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I know you meant server inbox. But, if I make a new, identical account, it works, even though I make no changes to the server, so I do not think it is anything on the server.
Xue v.2 said:
well, blackberry sell its email service since 5 years ago, while WinMo OS introduced this pushmail service like,,, a year?
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I am not using any "push mail" service. I simply have the HTC poll the different email servers to see if there is any email at a preset periodic time. It usually "hangs" on the same account, even though I have two accounts on the same server. But, I do poll the "problem account" more frequently than the other account, so it may just be the law of probabilities. In any case it is quite frustrating, especially since is seems you and I are the only ones with this problem.
Actually, my problem is a bit different than yours, my phone was never 'give up' on retreiving emails from google and yahoo (which use IMAP4 idle connection). It just has an issue with live account sync.
And the problem was solved (by cleaning my live inbox)
I googled about this winlive issue, and turned out I have lots of comrades LoL

How to push email

I've been pulling my hair out looking around for how exactly to have emails pushed to the G1. I have both K9 Email for Yahoo and the stock Gmail app for Gmail that I'm trying to get it pushed on.
How the hell do I get this working?? I see no options ANYWHERE to do it, but upon Googling it, everyone seems all happy and excited that it -can- push emails. But, NONE OF THESE PLACES EXPLAINS HOW! I don't care if they're glad it can or not, I want to know HOW to do it. Google themselves don't even mention it.
Can somebody please explain how to push emails before I lose my mind and possibly all my hair??
Thanks in advance
what the hell are you talking about?
You automatically get all emails from the account you registered your g1 with pushed to your device if u did not manually disable it in settings. Via thhe mentioned G(oogle)Mail application!
You can also use the suppiled email app that comes pre installed on the phone. Works with all the major emails except those from an exchange server.
That mail isn't exactly pushed, from what I understand pushed emails to be. Pushed is immediately sending a notification once email is received, the one in Google mail and K-9 has timed when it checks the source email.
Not even SMS are really PUSHED to your device. It is how it is. Use it and shut up.
How shall it technical work to push something to your device ? It is impossible .. The intervalls for sms/calls are just much shorter.. thats why mobiles drain so much battery even in standby.. and the intervall for gmail to check new emails is shorter than 1minute .. i dunno how much is it but it's near to instant
Proxin said:
I've been pulling my hair out looking around for how exactly to have emails pushed to the G1. I have both K9 Email for Yahoo and the stock Gmail app for Gmail that I'm trying to get it pushed on.
How the hell do I get this working?? I see no options ANYWHERE to do it, but upon Googling it, everyone seems all happy and excited that it -can- push emails. But, NONE OF THESE PLACES EXPLAINS HOW! I don't care if they're glad it can or not, I want to know HOW to do it. Google themselves don't even mention it.
Can somebody please explain how to push emails before I lose my mind and possibly all my hair??
Thanks in advance
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You do have an exchange account? POP3/web mail can't be pushed
Not even SMS are really PUSHED to your device. It is how it is. Use it and shut up.
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yes they are...
Proxin said:
That mail isn't exactly pushed, from what I understand pushed emails to be. Pushed is immediately sending a notification once email is received, the one in Google mail and K-9 has timed when it checks the source email.
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The GMail client does not "check" the source email, it uses a proprietary version of IMAP IDLE (push) technology. It is indeed pushed to your phone, when "Sync" is enabled. However, K9 and the stock email app do not provide IMAP IDLE support at this time, so there is no way to set that up. K9 has it on the To-Do list. I don't know about you, but the instant my account that is set up with the Gmail client on the phone gets an email - my phone notifies me, sometimes it is faster then a desktop client. And, I assure you that it is not constantly sending out requests checking in for mail on the server, that would be poor coding on Google's part and waste a lot of their resources.
So, to answer your concerns directly.
The GMail client IS what is referred to as "Push" email.
The K9 and stock Email clients are currently not capable of "Push" email.
bassbox said:
Not even SMS are really PUSHED to your device. It is how it is. Use it and shut up.
How shall it technical work to push something to your device ? It is impossible .. The intervalls for sms/calls are just much shorter.. thats why mobiles drain so much battery even in standby.. and the intervall for gmail to check new emails is shorter than 1minute .. i dunno how much is it but it's near to instant
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How about doing some reading before sticking your foot further into your throat.
IMAP IDLE - how it works.
It is very efficient.
"This means that an active client will always be kept up to date. The IDLE command deals with the situation where the client has no more requests to make. The server responds to the idle command when there is a new message (or messages) which indicates to the client that there are new messages. "
as i said it .. the g1 "pings" the server all the time ..
bassbox said:
as i said it .. the g1 "pings" the server all the time ..
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You're still looking for a clue, almost getting there
In case of push mail your phone does NOT poll for new mails: The mailserver will notify your phone when new mail is available. Yes your phone sends an idle command, but nothing happens after that: The connection is just left open and when there is new mail the server will send it.
bassbox said:
"This means that an active client will always be kept up to date. The IDLE command deals with the situation where the client has no more requests to make. The server responds to the idle command when there is a new message (or messages) which indicates to the client that there are new messages. "
as i said it .. the g1 "pings" the server all the time ..
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I think you are grasping the concept, but the semantics are lost on you.
It works like this:
1. Client connects to server, does it's initial check-in, and handles new requests.
2. Client sends IDLE command to server, telling the server that it is still active, but not actively sending requests.
3. Client sits IDLE (no more data is transmitted from client to server unless an action takes place on the CLIENT requiring transmission - ie, an email is sent).
4. Server receives a new message.
5. Server sends a packet to the Client (knowing where it is located based on the open - yet IDLE connection).
6. Client responds to the packet and is subsequently transmitted the message.
See how many times I used the word IDLE - get the picture? As long as you know what IDLE means, you will understand how efficient this is. Here is a quote from that page I posted a link to:
Phone. For older phones there could be an issue of increased battery usage due to holding the connection open. This is unlikely to be a problem on a modern phone.
Another practical problem is that current phone networking technology will lose IP network connectivity from time to time, and this will need to be automatically re-established, and the IMAP connection re-established if this is lost due to a long network failure.
In summary, the overall IMAP IDLE architecture has good performance.
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Whoo HOO! Another GIRL on the forum! Go ZEE ZEE! And, she's CUTE, too!
Anyway, back to the subject at hand.
Proxin - I believe (although I could be wrong) what is going on is that you don't have the Gmail as your primary mail account - the one that everyone sends email to.
I only lately began to use Gmail. So, I have three email addresses that are set to forward to the Gmail account. The time it takes for these email to be forwarded and received by Gmail is the only lag I experience at all.
If you are using Gmail's "fetcher" feature to fetch email from other accounts... I have seen up to 30 minutes before each "fetch." So, it can take awhile. In which case I suggest that you go to any primary accounts that you have and set them to forward your email to your Google account and see if that decreases the delay.
Touchdown by exchange is the best email push app on g1 currently. But its not free . if u wanna sync contacts u can do that during the trial period
I just got my g1 Monday and all my contacts were on a server and I was discouraged that I could sync google or my g1 contacts with the exchange server. I then tested every app in the marketplace i could find and couldn't get any to sync contacts except Touchdown.
ExchangeIt worked fine after I figured out how to use it. Most of the other apps only work for Microsoft Server 2007 so they weren't compatible.
B-Eazy said:
Touchdown by exchange is the best email push app on g1 currently. But its not free . if u wanna sync contacts u can do that during the trial period
I just got my g1 Monday and all my contacts were on a server and I was discouraged that I could sync google or my g1 contacts with the exchange server. I then tested every app in the marketplace i could find and couldn't get any to sync contacts except Touchdown.
ExchangeIt worked fine after I figured out how to use it. Most of the other apps only work for Microsoft Server 2007 so they weren't compatible.
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Touchdown rocks, and is worth the money.
Even the Exchange support in the upcoming cupcake is lame, as ig works with a lame email client.

[Q] Gmail Exchange Setup

Hey all,
just upgraded from a Note2 to the Xperia Z.
I've been trying to setup my Exchange email for over an hour without success,
I've got it setup on the note2 working fine and notifying when mails are coming in. So settings seem right, but it won't budge on the Xperia Z, I know google talked about ending support for Exchange, but surely if it's working on my current phone, why not work on my new phone?
Settings being used.
EMAIL ADDRESS:
*****@gmail.com
-->
DOMAIN\USERNAME:
\*****
*I've tried
\*****@gmail.com
\*****@googlemail.com
\*****@gmail.com\
\*****@googlemail.com\
\*****@gmail.com
\*****@googlemail.com
\*****@gmail.com\
\*****@googlemail.com\
google\*****@gmail.com
google\*****@googlemail.com
google\*****@gmail.com\
google\*****@googlemail.com\
PASSWORD:
*****
SERVER:
m.google.com
*I've tried
google.com
USE SECURE CONNECTION:
Yes
*i've tried
No
ACCEPT ALL SSL CERTS:
NO
*i've tried
Yes
i've tried everything i can think of, while my other phone is quite happily notifying me of emails coming in, i really don't understand what i'm doing wrong here, surely Google aren't stopping my new phone, but allowing my old phone? If so thats a bit rubbish.
Any and all help welcome, thanks
Luke.
Same here. I have switched to android 2 weeks ago from iphone. On iphone i was getting e-mail notifications from google instantly when message was received on google server for few last years. Now it is not so good. I have checked now set up instructions for google sync and it says that it is for Google apps for business, education and government users. It was free for all before. It is free for all old users though but it seems that when you switch phones while using same gmail account, it does not transfer. Notifications on my ipad are still instant.
Why do you use exchange instead of the Gmail app?
Dsteppa said:
Why do you use exchange instead of the Gmail app?
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One reason especially on my old Samsung was that it displayed emails in a better format, as gmail used to have a stupid limit to the zoom meaning i had to scroll left to right on emails and it was bloody annoying. Also i find Exchange is near instant on arrival, while gmail is anywhere from instant to 5 minutes late.
If this is the scheme of new phones no longer working on exchange i'm pretty pissed off with google.
LBTaylor1984 said:
If this is the scheme of new phones no longer working on exchange i'm pretty pissed off with google.
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Yes it is. I cannot post links. Google "Google drops Exchange ActiveSync support"

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