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[Q] Moto X off contract?

I live in USA but do not have social security number because I am a student, (I am not a U.S. citizen) so I can not sign any contracts with carriers. I really want to buy Moto X and use it with AT&T, do you know if they are planning to sell it for full price?
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DarkVasyaK said:
I live in USA but do not have social security number because I am a student, (I am not a U.S. citizen) so I can not sign any contracts with carriers. I really want to buy Moto X and use it with AT&T, do you know if they are planning to sell it for full price?
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i literally just got back from the ATT store, they wouldn't sell it to me without an ATT account

The regular price is showing $579.99 on AT&T's web site. That is way too much for the phone considering the Nexus 4 is $350 and can be used on T-mobile without any contracts. If you really want this phone then I would say walk into a AT&T store and see what they can do. Even though you don't have a SSN there may be special exemptions for students.

That's really hard to consider Moto X over SGS4 Google Play edition considering the same price, and people say the camera is really bad
Will have to take a look at Moto X in store today
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DarkVasyaK said:
and people say the camera is really bad
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"people" say a lot.

anotherdroid said:
"people" say a lot.
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Look at the review samples or even the "photos" thread here in the X general forum.

You can sign the contracts without SSN, all you need to do is pay a $500 security deposit, they will return it to you within a year if you pay your monthly fee on time.

DarkVasyaK said:
I live in USA but do not have social security number because I am a student, (I am not a U.S. citizen) so I can not sign any contracts with carriers. I really want to buy Moto X and use it with AT&T, do you know if they are planning to sell it for full price?
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I went into my local AT&T this morning trying to buy one off contract. They couldn't get the transaction to process though so the manager called support and was told that Motorola/Google are not allowing the Moto X to be sold off contract at launch.

Yeah, they told me that they won't sell it off contract for the first month
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i bought mine sort of off-contract. but, instead a month-to-month "contract". pretty sure it would be pointless to buy this phone outright from AT&T. it's entirely locked down to AT&T. until someone proves otherwise, i'm unsure this "GSM" phone will work off their network.
i could be way off...

anotherdroid said:
i bought mine sort of off-contract. but, instead a month-to-month "contract". pretty sure it would be pointless to buy this phone outright from AT&T. it's entirely locked down to AT&T. until someone proves otherwise, i'm unsure this "GSM" phone will work off their network.
i could be way off...
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so how do I get them to do this? just say I want to use this month to month can I please buy this phone?

I'm on the $60 AT&T GoPhone plan. I was able to walk in buy one no commitment with no questions asked.

05GT said:
I'm on the $60 AT&T GoPhone plan. I was able to walk in buy one no commitment with no questions asked.
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did you pay full $579 retail?

fitchpuckman said:
did you pay full $579 retail?
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Yea,
I purchased it at full price. $579..

05GT said:
Yea,
I purchased it at full price. $579..
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awesome. thanks for the info!

unbelieveably it is vailable in Future shop, Canad off the contract. I got mine on the release day. Even the future shop sales rep was shocked that usually system would not allow him to sell outright at least for a month...

lensgrabber said:
The regular price is showing $579.99 on AT&T's web site. That is way too much for the phone considering the Nexus 4 is $350 and can be used on T-mobile without any contracts. If you really want this phone then I would say walk into a AT&T store and see what they can do. Even though you don't have a SSN there may be special exemptions for students.
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Not sure if you can get it without a contract, but I paid full price (I and under contract for another year and not yet eligible for an upgrade). I paid full retail, which in the store rang up as $540. Not sure why, since the web site shows $579.00, but I won't complain about saving $40.
BTW - the store I went to said they wont stock 32GB versions in store, they will need to be ordered online. I bought a black 16GB Moto X.

So if I walked into an AT&T store and buy their Moto X full price, will they let me unlock it to use it on T Mobile?

05GT said:
Yea,
I purchased it at full price. $579..
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That's cuz yous a bawlin' G.
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I Am Marino said:
So if I walked into an AT&T store and buy their Moto X full price, will they let me unlock it to use it on T Mobile?
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I called GoPhone customer service and they gave me the unlock code.

What's the process to using this phone on ATT?

Hi I want to buy this phone, unlock it and use it for ATT.
I heard you cannot buy this phone off contract and that you must have a service with them. I hear people are just signing up for the service for one day and then cancel the day after.
Can someone explain how they did it?

pham818 said:
Hi I want to buy this phone, unlock it and use it for ATT.
I heard you cannot buy this phone off contract and that you must have a service with them. I hear people are just signing up for the service for one day and then cancel the day after.
Can someone explain how they did it?
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Pay full price for phone up front and buy the smallest package. After 40 days cancel the service. Some stores will sell it out right without a plan, but you will have to do some searching and calling. I had to go to 3 different stores before I found one that would sell it out right.

I read LTE and 4G dont work so well when you take it back to ATT. I read somewhere.

chong67 said:
I read LTE and 4G dont work so well when you take it back to ATT. I read somewhere.
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Results vary. Some say it works just as good

My LTE works perfect on AT&T.

My unlocked T Mobile Note 4 running on AT&T.

chong67 said:
I read LTE and 4G dont work so well when you take it back to ATT. I read somewhere.
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I thought the same thing. This is not the case with the Note 4. It was an issue with the Note 3 and previous devices in my experience.

martinezma99 said:
My unlocked T Mobile Note 4 running on AT&T.
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Who did you use to unlock it? im looking to pick one up and i'd rather not have to wait for tmobiles unlocking terms.

If you buy the phone out right you can unlock asap

bigmase23 said:
If you buy the phone out right you can unlock asap
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There's been conflicting reports about that.

I bought the phone outright. Paid $30 or so to cellunlocker to get an unlock code. Popped in AT&T sim and off I went. Still need to cancel Tmo service.

taphius said:
There's been conflicting reports about that.
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When you purchase the phone outright you now it and can unlock it.

I bought my Note 4 outright and purchased the lowest priced package I could. I unlocked it the first day I received it, inserted my sim card from Consumer Cellular and was up and running. However, I read that T-Mobile can and have blacklisted the IMEI of phones that don't comply with their terms of service. Since I didn't read the fine print when I bought the phone and service, I decided it would be prudent to go ahead and meet the 40 service requirement to get an unlock code (although the phone is already unlocked) rather than take a chance and have some T-Mobile manager with a Napoleonic complex blacklist the phone. Then I would be out of $800.00. I asked the customer care representative about blacklisting the phone if I didn't meet the 40 day requirement and she said it was possible. I wasn't willing to take that chance. I will pony up an additional $80.00 + dollars to have peace of mind.

cartertucker said:
I bought the phone outright. Paid $30 or so to cellunlocker to get an unlock code. Popped in AT&T sim and off I went. Still need to cancel Tmo service.
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Thanks

I preordered, got phone Monday the 13th.
I unlocked with cellunlocker.net 4 days later.
Been using it on AT&T since last friday. Called and canceled tmobile same day.
Easy as that.
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bigmase23 said:
When you purchase the phone outright you now it and can unlock it.
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Right but you make it sound like every T-Mobile store or reseller will sell you a phone outright with absolutely zero commitment of any kind like you walked in to buy a pack of gum or bought a nexus from google play store. There are conflicting reports about zero commitment purchases. The safer bet seems to be walking in with the understanding that you may have to agree to a month-to-month or prepaid contract that you can cancel a day or more later.

The best way i can think to explain it is as follows:
A few people have reported that they were able to buy it outright without service. Though many have been denied that option.
Some have implied that Tmobile then unlocked it.
A moderately safe assumption is that you can buy it with service, unlock it via third party service, and cancel your tmobile service the second u get your unlock code. This comes with the gray area of region locking and having to activate it on tmobile first to remove the region lock pior to unlocking. This can be a lengthy discussion, you might not care about region locking, I'll leave it at that, but read into it. I went this route, activated on tmobile for 4 days, then unlocked and cancelled. I say assumption because people are worried about blacklisting and T.O.S.
The most cautious method would be to wait out your 40 days per Tmobile T.O.S., in addition to the time it takes for them to send your unlock code, pay applicable fees, then cancel.
Hope this clears up the options a bit.
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T-Mobile has the IMEI of phone they sell you in their records. I confirmed it when I called them and they read it to me for confirmation purposes. They sold the phone to you and they know everything about it. Guaranteed. If their records show the phone being used on another carrier without it being activated with them or unlocked by them then they can blacklist the IMEI of the phone. That phone will then be an $800.00 paperweight. They have done it before and a quick Google search will prove it. I'm not saying they will since that seems to be an unknown, but they can and the owner of the phone will have no recourse. I sure don't want to wake up one day and find out that my $800.00 phone is dead. I might very well be wrong, but I am not willing to take that chance after paying $800.00 for the phone. I'll pay for the 40 days of service.

I just bought my Note 4 full price from AT&T after calling about 30 stores in my area and finding one store with one black model in stock. I ended up paying less than full price because of some computer error that rung up the phone $749.99 instead of $825.99. They charged me the difference so I only paid $825 outright, after taxes. All in all, I saved almost $50 (difference in tax from $750 to $825). I still feel like it is ridiculous though that the AT&T model is $80 more expensive than TMo. Is it worth buying a TMO Note 4 with their baseball discount ($30 off) and trying to unlock it to use it on AT&T? Sorry for my long comment/question.

Bought mine from swappa in a sealed pack. Opened the phone, went to Cellunlocker.com and within 10 min had my unlock code. Works great on ATT

Nexus 6 Verizon?

So I spoke to a Motorola rep who says the nexus 6 is coming to Verizon I guess the 65 million dollar question is... Will it be bootloader locked anyone have any insight into this?

Virus1x said:
So I spoke to a Motorola rep who says the nexus 6 is coming to Verizon I guess the 65 million dollar question is... Will it be bootloader locked anyone have any insight into this?
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to be a nexus, it has to have the option to unlock the bootloader. so, to answer your question, which is supposed to go into q&a, not general.. no, wont be bootloader locked. but, in the same idea, it can be sim locked. which no one knows, except verizon.
edit.. got moved to q&a

This is the first thread I've seen about this device on Verizon, good work op!
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akellar said:
This is the first thread I've seen about this device on Verizon, good work op!
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lol thank you

Does it really matter? Verizon doesn't have any information in regards to a Nexus 6 release, if you want the phone, you would just purchase it from Motorola/Play Store/etc already and not count on Verizon to offer the phone. It'll work on Verizon network anyways.

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zephiK said:
Does it really matter? Verizon doesn't have any information in regards to a Nexus 6 release, if you want the phone, you would just purchase it from Motorola/Play Store/etc already and not count on Verizon to offer the phone. It'll work on Verizon network anyways.
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Can someone enlighten me how purchasing Nexus 6 from Google is a viable option for Verizon? I understand you just need the chip, but plan-wise, there are no cheaper plans which remove the price of the phone in the plan, right? In other words, you can get the phone working, but aren't you still paying their high monthly rates?

pdeck33 said:
Can someone enlighten me how purchasing Nexus 6 from Google is a viable option for Verizon? I understand you just need the chip, but plan-wise, there are no cheaper plans which remove the price of the phone in the plan, right? In other words, you can get the phone working, but aren't you still paying their high monthly rates?
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Welcome to Verizon......

simms22 said:
to be a nexus, it has to have the option to unlock the bootloader. so, to answer your question, which is supposed to go into q&a, not general.. no, wont be bootloader locked. but, in the same idea, it can be sim locked. which no one knows, except verizon.
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Well actually we do know it won't be sim locked, Verizon can't legally sim lock a phone that uses their LTE network.
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Can someone enlighten me how purchasing Nexus 6 from Google is a viable option for Verizon? I understand you just need the chip, but plan-wise, there are no cheaper plans which remove the price of the phone in the plan, right? In other words, you can get the phone working, but aren't you still paying their high monthly rates?
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Yeah but that goes for any phone you would buy from Verizon. You can save money if you know what you're doing. I got the droid turbo subsidized on launch day, sold it on craigslist and bought a note 4 for cheaper on craigslist the same day. Then I did it again to get the nexus. Technically I spent less than $100 to use those three phones since the end of October (when the turbo launched).

joshm.1219 said:
Well actually we do know it won't be sim locked, Verizon can't legally sim lock a phone that uses their LTE network.
Yeah but that goes for any phone you would buy from Verizon. You can save money if you know what you're doing. I got the droid turbo subsidized on launch day, sold it on craigslist and bought a note 4 for cheaper on craigslist the same day. Then I did it again to get the nexus. Technically I spent less than $100 to use those three phones since the end of October (when the turbo launched).
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OK, I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something like how T-Mobile's charges less for their plans if you pay monthly for the full price of the phone. I even looked into their prepaid plans, and they're almost more expensive than the subsidized ones... Do you receive any discount on their Edge plan if you supply your own phone? Sorry if this is a little off-topic.

pdeck33 said:
OK, I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something like how T-Mobile's charges less for their plans if you pay monthly for the full price of the phone. I even looked into their prepaid plans, and they're almost more expensive than the subsidized ones... Do you receive any discount on their Edge plan if you supply your own phone? Sorry if this is a little off-topic.
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Oh no, that's because T-Mobile doesn't technically subsidize the devices, although obviously you pay less overall.
I'm not sure about a BYOD policy with the Edge plan, but I do know it's a very costly plan for what it is. As I mentioned, a little wheeling and dealing can get you a new device whenever you want for a whole lot cheaper.

pdeck33 said:
OK, I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something like how T-Mobile's charges less for their plans if you pay monthly for the full price of the phone. I even looked into their prepaid plans, and they're almost more expensive than the subsidized ones... Do you receive any discount on their Edge plan if you supply your own phone? Sorry if this is a little off-topic.
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If you supply your own phone for Verizon the monthly charge for that line is $15 not $40 (the price on contract). This only applies if you are not currently in a 2 year contract. You have to call them and they will switch it to $15 for the line which is the same price as if you had edge. The price for data remains the same.

Yet another useless thread :good:. First it's Verizon reps, now Motorola reps, what's next? Reported, hope it gets closed.

If there is any further questions about the N6 on Verizon please use this existing discussion thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-released-verizon-february-26th-t2992071 Nexus 6 released on Verizon February 26th ?
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Worth Upgrading to Pixel XL $240?

So I was just wondering if any of you think it's worth upgrading to the Pixel XL for only $240 as Verizon is giving a deal this Black Friday. Should I stick with my N6 until next year or take the offer?
Or if anyone has a better upgradeable phone which supports CDMA

aroy97 said:
So I was just wondering if any of you think it's worth upgrading to the Pixel XL for only $240 as Verizon is giving a deal this Black Friday. Should I stick with my N6 until next year or take the offer?
Or if anyone has a better upgradeable phone which supports CDMA
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It will cost $240 ? If so you could buy it and flip it for at least $600+

mikeprius said:
It will cost $240 ? If so you could buy it and flip it for at least $600+
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The catch is I have to sign a 2 year contract which I actually have no problem with, but I'm sure they're going to notice that the device isn't active on my account since I sold it.

aroy97 said:
The catch is I have to sign a 2 year contract which I actually have no problem with, but I'm sure they're going to notice that the device isn't active on my account since I sold it.
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You need to add the total price of the 2 year contract to the price of the new device.
Than estimate the costs using your N6 for 2 years without that contract.
Can be helpful to make a decision.

NLBeev said:
You need to add the total price of the 2 year contract to the price of the new device.
Than estimate the costs using your N6 for 2 years without that contract.
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well my N6 is already paid off, so it would just be the extra $10/month added to my bill for the next 2 years.

aroy97 said:
The catch is I have to sign a 2 year contract which I actually have no problem with, but I'm sure they're going to notice that the device isn't active on my account since I sold it.
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I have Sprint so I also have CDMA as well so it is an issue finding good phones. The 2 year contact you sign with Verizon is basically a service agreement, meaning you are going to use their service for another 2 years before you have the ability to just bail. Afterwards it goes month to month, at least with Sprint. With Sprint anyways, the phone isn't an issue, assuming the 2 year contract is a purchase not a lease which I suspect it is. For example, my brother signed a 2 yr contract with Sprint, got a Galaxy, then broke it after a year from dropping it too much. He is using some old phone he bought used. No problem. I just got a Nexus 5X after having my Nexus 6 for just one year. Sprint hasn't called either of us demanding why our phones are not being used. We just agreed legally to use their service for another 2 years. If you don't plan on leaving Verizon anyways the contract is negligible. It's just that if you get rid of the pixel and something happens to your Nexus 6, you will be on your own until the 2 yr contract is up.
I've been looking at the Pixel XL new in box like yours would be and they are going for a lot right now given that they are sold out. I highly suggest you look at eBay. New Pixel XL in a box are being priced at $900+
You could buy it at $240 , sell it even at a slightly mark up at $825, then keep the $585. That's very cheap esp for the XL.....
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You need to add the total price of the 2 year contract to the price of the new device.
Than estimate the costs using your N6 for 2 years without that contract.
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The OP likely is going to keep using Verizon's service anyways whether he buys the Pixel or not. The only difference is if he wanted to leave Verizon or plans to then the contract would lock him in until its over. In the US, most people who are on the major networks (AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, T-Mobile) generally stay with their carrier, there isn't a lot of movement.......the cheap pre-paid, lower tier networks is a different story................

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............ the 2 yr contract is up.
.......the cheap pre-paid, lower tier..
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Thx for the info. In the Netherlands and probably in more EU-countries we have 'sim only contracts'.
Buying a device yourself and a sim only contract is mostly cheaper.
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well my N6 is already paid off, so it would just be the extra $10/month added to my bill for the next 2 years.
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240 + (24 * 10) is the real price you have to pay for the Pixel.
That's cheap compared with prices here in the Netherlands. (Still > $1000,- for a Pixel XL).

aroy97 said:
So I was just wondering if any of you think it's worth upgrading to the Pixel XL for only $240 as Verizon is giving a deal this Black Friday. Should I stick with my N6 until next year or take the offer?
Or if anyone has a better upgradeable phone which supports CDMA
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Keep in mind the Verizon Pixel XL has a locked bootloader. I believe it's a terrible deal because of that, and you could do just as well simply by buying a 6P from Amazon between Black Friday and the end of the year.

Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Keep in mind the Verizon Pixel XL has a locked bootloader. I believe it's a terrible deal because of that, and you could do just as well simply by buying a 6P from Amazon between Black Friday and the end of the year.
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well there is a tool released to unlock the bootloader of a Verizon Pixel device (dePixel8). But it could be possible that a future update may force-lock the bootloader again, which is something to think about I guess.

The last time the bootloader on a Verizon device was bypassed, it was the Galaxy S4. Verizon's next update patched the hole that allowed people to do that. While I admit forgetting about dePixel8, it's a virtual lock that Verizon will patch the flaw that allows the bootloader to be unlocked on their next update, when they decide to release it.
That's the other bad thing about getting a Verizon Pixel/Pixel XL. You're at the mercy of Verizon for updates, not Google.

Unlock it, flash the google factory image and disable ota updates to be sure. Assuming you can get it before Google patches the bypass.

Assuming it can be unlocked.
It's up to the OP what he wants to do. However, he needs to be aware of the potential pitfalls of purchasing a device from a carrier on contract. The locked bootloader with the potential of not being able to unlock it and carrier interference with the updates are but two of them. Getting a phone from a carrier for a reduced price is never a good deal. Buying direct is better.

Verizon. Bootloader policy. Possible bloatware (its Verizon do it's impossible to believe something shady won't be in there). Pricing. Nuff said...

I saw this promo. I'd pass. Usually the benefit of a contract is to get the immediate savings right away while forfeiting the ability to move carriers. Here you sign a contract, pay out the a$$ upfront, then get a trickle benefit over 2 yrs. I'd just get a 6p over black friday if you'd like to switch.

It's a good price. But I opted to finance through project Fi instead. I'm not a heavy data user so my monthly is about the same as a contract would be with Verizon. Verizon's service is arguably better but I'm satisfied with Fi, and I really like how well it works internationally, making it a better value to me. Plus I'm not confident that Verizon will release timely updates.

Once you unlock it using DePixel8, you flash google factory images and there's no way Verizon can relock it with future updates.

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Once you unlock it using DePixel8, you flash google factory images and there's no way Verizon can relock it with future updates.
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maybe, but back when I had a S5 and needed tech support for it to get it replaced, Verizon representative notified me over the phone that they wont do anything as they were able to see that I wasn't on a stock ROM and that I was rooted. Although the representative just told me to reflash the stock ROM and keep it unrooted and to call back the next day.
Nonetheless I'm sure they will be able to do the same with my Pixel and void my warranty, best to just buy it from Google directly and avoid all of that crap.
Thanks everyone for your input and advice

The 10$ price is for the 32gb Pixel only, which is a good price. The 128gb Pixel is 15$ * 24mo, the 32gb XL is 20$ * 24mo and the 128gb XL is 25$ * 24mo.
There's still a savings to be had on all variants however not enough of a savings on the 128gb XL version for me, I was actually hesitating giving to my unlimited to get two 128gb XL version if it was 240$ a phone, not the case.

aroy97 said:
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Nonetheless I'm sure they will be able to do the same with my Pixel and void my warranty, best to just buy it from Google directly and avoid all of that crap.
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It's indeed 'better' to buy a phone separately from the provider. Here (Netherlands) we have many people paying too much, because the 2-year contact automatically continues. Many forget to change the contract after 2 years.

T Mobile Note 8 or Unlocked version from Samsung USA website?

I would like to order a Samsung Note 8 from Samsungs website, but unsure whether to order the unlocked version or the T Mobile version. Pros cons? I am on T Mobile USA.
Delete, question already asked, cheers. and sorry.

Limeybastard said:
I would like to order a Samsung Note 8 from Samsungs website, but unsure whether to order the unlocked version or the T Mobile version. Pros cons? I am on T Mobile USA.
Delete, question already asked, cheers. and sorry.
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I ordered mine from Samsung.com and my biggest pro was the $425.00 discount for prior Note 7 owners. I also have a S8+ and from what I've heard the unlocked version doesn't have wifi calling but I might be wrong.

No real cons for grabbing the unlocked version other than native video calling will not work on the unlocked version. Promptness of updates from T-Mobile vs Samsung direct is also something to consider. I'm speaking from the point of view of a stock T-Mobile N8 vs an unlocked N8.

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I ordered mine from Samsung.com and my biggest pro was the $425.00 discount for prior Note 7 owners. I also have a S8+ and from what I've heard the unlocked version doesn't have wifi calling but I might be wrong.
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I dont qualify for the discount,. The dumb asses as Samsung just emailed saying the Unlocked version aint gonna ship until October, whereas my wifes T Mobile version will be Sept 14. Cocksuckers, maybe I should just order the T mobile version? BTW all in good faith on my side

pros are the discount but you can also buy the tmo variant from Samsung as well. I almost bought an unlocked one from Samsung but I found out if you buy the carrier variant from Samsung, Tmobile can unlock from the day you receive it even if its financed through Samsung. Now I am betting it will be like s7 and s8 to where you can odin/adb the unlocked firmware onto the tmo device to get rid of the carrier bloat.
now the unlocked normally doesn't mean that much to me because I plan on staying with TMO anyway but I really want a Deep sea blue when it becomes available so I need to resell the one o have. I would wait until the blue is released but I cant pass up the note 7 discount. since I can unlock the TMO device on day 1, it will be easier to sell when it comes to that point. I believe all the snap dragon phones are built the same just have different software per carrier. so If my TMO device is sim unlocked, I can flash the stock Verizon firmware and will look/work just like a stock Verizon device(lte bands, apps etc).

Limeybastard said:
I dont qualify for the discount,. The dumb asses as Samsung just emailed saying the Unlocked version aint gonna ship until October, whereas my wifes T Mobile version will be Sept 14. Cocksuckers, maybe I should just order the T mobile version? BTW all in good faith on my side
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If you don't qualify for the discount, and you're going to TMo, and you're getting 2 Notes, forget buying from Samsung, get the BOGO from T-Mobile instead.

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If you don't qualify for the discount, and you're going to TMo, and you're getting 2 Notes, forget buying from Samsung, get the BOGO from T-Mobile instead.
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I read about that, but I dont want to get another line of service and all the credit debit T mobile shennanigans.

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I read about that, but I dont want to get another line of service and all the credit debit T mobile shennanigans.
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Ok, because you didn't qualify for the discount, it's just weird you're willing to pay full price (and lose $900+) and stick with Samsung. For the TMo deal, the downside for that is adding and keeping a line and having to resell the 2nd phone. If you're keeping to lines anyway (you can port one of your numbers to the new line and cancel the current one where it came from) and you wanted 2 phones anyway. The only downside in your case would be paying in full for 2 phones and waiting a few months to get the second phone's refund (prepaid card) to come in.

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Ok, because you didn't qualify for the discount, it's just weird you're willing to pay full price (and lose $900+) and stick with Samsung. For the TMo deal, the downside for that is adding and keeping a line and having to resell the 2nd phone. If you're keeping to lines anyway (you can port one of your numbers to the new line and cancel the current one where it came from) and you wanted 2 phones anyway. The only downside in your case would be paying in full for 2 phones and waiting a few months to get the second phone's refund (prepaid card) to come in.
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Ive currently got 4 lines on my simple choice unlimited plan. Two of the lines are "free" when they did the promo last year, I only pay tax on each of the two free lines.
Its my understanding that to get the BOGO Note 8 from tmo , I would need to buy one on EIP and ADD another line for the "free" note 8 to my account?

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Ive currently got 4 lines on my simple choice unlimited plan. Two of the lines are "free" when they did the promo last year, I only pay tax on each of the two free lines.
Its my understanding that to get the BOGO Note 8 from tmo , I would need to buy one on EIP and ADD another line for the "free" note 8 to my account?
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Yes, that's correct. Is anyone using the "free" extra lines? If no one is, maybe cancel one of them now, add the line for the promo, then cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. If all 4 lines are in use, I'm not sure if what the line limit for Simple Choice, but I believe you can go up to 8. If that's the case, add a fifth line and cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. The downside to this is you might lose the bill credits for one of the free lines, but $10 a month extra is less than $930 for a free Note 8. Since you're buying 2 Notes anyway from Samsung, just get the 2 Notes on EIP with T-mobile and and pay them off in full once you receive the prepaid card (you can pay one off WITH the prepaid card so you don't have to worry about how to spend it), or keep them on EIP if you were planning to finance with Samsung.

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Yes, that's correct. Is anyone using the "free" extra lines? If no one is, maybe cancel one of them now, add the line for the promo, then cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. If all 4 lines are in use, I'm not sure if what the line limit for Simple Choice, but I believe you can go up to 8. If that's the case, add a fifth line and cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. The downside to this is you might lose the bill credits for one of the free lines, but $10 a month extra is less than $930 for a free Note 8. Since you're buying 2 Notes anyway from Samsung, just get the 2 Notes on EIP with T-mobile and and pay them off in full once you receive the prepaid card (you can pay one off WITH the prepaid card so you don't have to worry about how to spend it), or keep them on EIP if you were planning to finance with Samsung.
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The two "free" lines, If I cancel one, then the other will be charged as normal, that was part of their promo terms and conditions. Or I could just cancel both. However, the lines are useful for me , since one is also used in a Tab S2 international version for voice and data. I remember their prepaid card shennagins, it took T mobile about 9 weeks until I got mine when they did that promo to pay off my ATT contract back when I joined tmo a few years ago. I had to pay ATT about 800$ or so, then after 9 weeks I got a mastercard from T Mobile. Luckily I had the cash at the time to pay off the ATT termination fees , else it would have gone into collections. Left a bad taste in my mouth. As did T mobiles last promo, in respect of the two free lines I got. It took them 6 months to fix billing issues, meaning I was charged $40 per each of those 2 free lines for that duration before credits kicked in. Was terrible. Hence I dont trust T Mobile nor their promos anymore.
I currently have my account and bill the way I like it. Hence getting the phones from Samsung and leaving T Mobile and their devices EIP, JOD shennanigans clear LOL

Limeybastard said:
The two "free" lines, If I cancel one, then the other will be charged as normal, that was part of their promo terms and conditions. Or I could just cancel both. However, the lines are useful for me , since one is also used in a Tab S2 international version for voice and data. I remember their prepaid card shennagins, it took T mobile about 9 weeks until I got mine when they did that promo to pay off my ATT contract back when I joined tmo a few years ago. I had to pay ATT about 800$ or so, then after 9 weeks I got a mastercard from T Mobile. Luckily I had the cash at the time to pay off the ATT termination fees , else it would have gone into collections. Left a bad taste in my mouth. As did T mobiles last promo, in respect of the two free lines I got. It took them 6 months to fix billing issues, meaning I was charged $40 per each of those 2 free lines for that duration before credits kicked in. Was terrible. Hence I dont trust T Mobile nor their promos anymore.
I currently have my account and bill the way I like it. Hence getting the phones from Samsung and leaving T Mobile and their devices EIP, JOD shennanigans clear LOL
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Yeah, at this point it's up to you whether it's worth all that time and effort to get a free phone.

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Yeah, at this point it's up to you whether it's worth all that time and effort to get a free phone.
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I was just reading that thread on slickdeals, damn got a head ache reading that . I was considering getting an iphone for trade in or a GS5, but aint worth the hassles or risks for me.:silly:

Is the unlocked version from Samsung an exynos/international version, is it just a unlocked snapdragon U version?
I want an exynos version for rooting and developer supported ROMs????

Amd4life said:
Is the unlocked version from Samsung an exynos/international version, is it just a unlocked snapdragon U version?
I want an exynos version for rooting and developer supported ROMs????
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The US (SIM) Unlocked version, is Qualcomm Snapdragon powered.
Sent from my Samsung SM-N935S using XDA Labs

Amd4life said:
Is the unlocked version from Samsung an exynos/international version, is it just a unlocked snapdragon U version?
I want an exynos version for rooting and developer supported ROMs????
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Do you think it will be locked down tight for root or do you think they will be able to get root since you can get it unlocked???

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Do you think it will be locked down tight for root or do you think they will be able to get root since you can get it unlocked???
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The bootloader is the same locked one on all the Snapdragon models. Unlocked means carrier SIM unlocked, so you can use it with any SIM card that fits.
I ended up saying screw it and ordering an Exynos version because I hate not being able to customize an expensive piece of property that is entirely mine.

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The bootloader is the same locked one on all the Snapdragon models. Unlocked means carrier SIM unlocked, so you can use it with any SIM card that fits.
I ended up saying screw it and ordering an Exynos version because I hate not being able to customize an expensive piece of property that is entirely mine.
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My wife got her note 8 two days ago. I like it but I have a Pixel XL and have all my custom stuff on it. We were both victims of the Note 7 fiasco! She went iPhone 7 I went Pixel. She hates her iPhone so jumped on the note 8... Bouncing all over the house all happy again. They offered us $400.00 off if we turn in a phone like I have a Galaxy 5 I can still keep my pixel and get the note 8 so I might just do it.