So I was just wondering if any of you think it's worth upgrading to the Pixel XL for only $240 as Verizon is giving a deal this Black Friday. Should I stick with my N6 until next year or take the offer?
Or if anyone has a better upgradeable phone which supports CDMA
aroy97 said:
So I was just wondering if any of you think it's worth upgrading to the Pixel XL for only $240 as Verizon is giving a deal this Black Friday. Should I stick with my N6 until next year or take the offer?
Or if anyone has a better upgradeable phone which supports CDMA
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It will cost $240 ? If so you could buy it and flip it for at least $600+
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It will cost $240 ? If so you could buy it and flip it for at least $600+
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The catch is I have to sign a 2 year contract which I actually have no problem with, but I'm sure they're going to notice that the device isn't active on my account since I sold it.
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The catch is I have to sign a 2 year contract which I actually have no problem with, but I'm sure they're going to notice that the device isn't active on my account since I sold it.
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You need to add the total price of the 2 year contract to the price of the new device.
Than estimate the costs using your N6 for 2 years without that contract.
Can be helpful to make a decision.
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You need to add the total price of the 2 year contract to the price of the new device.
Than estimate the costs using your N6 for 2 years without that contract.
Can be helpful to make a decision.
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well my N6 is already paid off, so it would just be the extra $10/month added to my bill for the next 2 years.
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The catch is I have to sign a 2 year contract which I actually have no problem with, but I'm sure they're going to notice that the device isn't active on my account since I sold it.
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I have Sprint so I also have CDMA as well so it is an issue finding good phones. The 2 year contact you sign with Verizon is basically a service agreement, meaning you are going to use their service for another 2 years before you have the ability to just bail. Afterwards it goes month to month, at least with Sprint. With Sprint anyways, the phone isn't an issue, assuming the 2 year contract is a purchase not a lease which I suspect it is. For example, my brother signed a 2 yr contract with Sprint, got a Galaxy, then broke it after a year from dropping it too much. He is using some old phone he bought used. No problem. I just got a Nexus 5X after having my Nexus 6 for just one year. Sprint hasn't called either of us demanding why our phones are not being used. We just agreed legally to use their service for another 2 years. If you don't plan on leaving Verizon anyways the contract is negligible. It's just that if you get rid of the pixel and something happens to your Nexus 6, you will be on your own until the 2 yr contract is up.
I've been looking at the Pixel XL new in box like yours would be and they are going for a lot right now given that they are sold out. I highly suggest you look at eBay. New Pixel XL in a box are being priced at $900+
You could buy it at $240 , sell it even at a slightly mark up at $825, then keep the $585. That's very cheap esp for the XL.....
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You need to add the total price of the 2 year contract to the price of the new device.
Than estimate the costs using your N6 for 2 years without that contract.
Can be helpful to make a decision.
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The OP likely is going to keep using Verizon's service anyways whether he buys the Pixel or not. The only difference is if he wanted to leave Verizon or plans to then the contract would lock him in until its over. In the US, most people who are on the major networks (AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, T-Mobile) generally stay with their carrier, there isn't a lot of movement.......the cheap pre-paid, lower tier networks is a different story................
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............ the 2 yr contract is up.
.......the cheap pre-paid, lower tier..
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Thx for the info. In the Netherlands and probably in more EU-countries we have 'sim only contracts'.
Buying a device yourself and a sim only contract is mostly cheaper.
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well my N6 is already paid off, so it would just be the extra $10/month added to my bill for the next 2 years.
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240 + (24 * 10) is the real price you have to pay for the Pixel.
That's cheap compared with prices here in the Netherlands. (Still > $1000,- for a Pixel XL).
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So I was just wondering if any of you think it's worth upgrading to the Pixel XL for only $240 as Verizon is giving a deal this Black Friday. Should I stick with my N6 until next year or take the offer?
Or if anyone has a better upgradeable phone which supports CDMA
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Keep in mind the Verizon Pixel XL has a locked bootloader. I believe it's a terrible deal because of that, and you could do just as well simply by buying a 6P from Amazon between Black Friday and the end of the year.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Keep in mind the Verizon Pixel XL has a locked bootloader. I believe it's a terrible deal because of that, and you could do just as well simply by buying a 6P from Amazon between Black Friday and the end of the year.
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well there is a tool released to unlock the bootloader of a Verizon Pixel device (dePixel8). But it could be possible that a future update may force-lock the bootloader again, which is something to think about I guess.
The last time the bootloader on a Verizon device was bypassed, it was the Galaxy S4. Verizon's next update patched the hole that allowed people to do that. While I admit forgetting about dePixel8, it's a virtual lock that Verizon will patch the flaw that allows the bootloader to be unlocked on their next update, when they decide to release it.
That's the other bad thing about getting a Verizon Pixel/Pixel XL. You're at the mercy of Verizon for updates, not Google.
Unlock it, flash the google factory image and disable ota updates to be sure. Assuming you can get it before Google patches the bypass.
Assuming it can be unlocked.
It's up to the OP what he wants to do. However, he needs to be aware of the potential pitfalls of purchasing a device from a carrier on contract. The locked bootloader with the potential of not being able to unlock it and carrier interference with the updates are but two of them. Getting a phone from a carrier for a reduced price is never a good deal. Buying direct is better.
Verizon. Bootloader policy. Possible bloatware (its Verizon do it's impossible to believe something shady won't be in there). Pricing. Nuff said...
I saw this promo. I'd pass. Usually the benefit of a contract is to get the immediate savings right away while forfeiting the ability to move carriers. Here you sign a contract, pay out the a$$ upfront, then get a trickle benefit over 2 yrs. I'd just get a 6p over black friday if you'd like to switch.
It's a good price. But I opted to finance through project Fi instead. I'm not a heavy data user so my monthly is about the same as a contract would be with Verizon. Verizon's service is arguably better but I'm satisfied with Fi, and I really like how well it works internationally, making it a better value to me. Plus I'm not confident that Verizon will release timely updates.
Once you unlock it using DePixel8, you flash google factory images and there's no way Verizon can relock it with future updates.
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Once you unlock it using DePixel8, you flash google factory images and there's no way Verizon can relock it with future updates.
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maybe, but back when I had a S5 and needed tech support for it to get it replaced, Verizon representative notified me over the phone that they wont do anything as they were able to see that I wasn't on a stock ROM and that I was rooted. Although the representative just told me to reflash the stock ROM and keep it unrooted and to call back the next day.
Nonetheless I'm sure they will be able to do the same with my Pixel and void my warranty, best to just buy it from Google directly and avoid all of that crap.
Thanks everyone for your input and advice
The 10$ price is for the 32gb Pixel only, which is a good price. The 128gb Pixel is 15$ * 24mo, the 32gb XL is 20$ * 24mo and the 128gb XL is 25$ * 24mo.
There's still a savings to be had on all variants however not enough of a savings on the 128gb XL version for me, I was actually hesitating giving to my unlimited to get two 128gb XL version if it was 240$ a phone, not the case.
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Nonetheless I'm sure they will be able to do the same with my Pixel and void my warranty, best to just buy it from Google directly and avoid all of that crap.
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It's indeed 'better' to buy a phone separately from the provider. Here (Netherlands) we have many people paying too much, because the 2-year contact automatically continues. Many forget to change the contract after 2 years.
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I called AT&T to do my part in the campaign to unlock the bootloader of the Vivid. The CSA seemed to understand our issue (wanting root/not wanting CIQ). I told her that these were the issues that needed to be resolved before I would upgrade when I am due late 2012. She (out of nowhere) asked if there were any other devices that I was interested in that were capable of root and didn't have CIQ. When I mentioned that my wife had an Inspire, she quickly asked if I was interested in an upgrade today. (I am using a rooted Aria). I told her that I didn't want to pay the higher price for a device since I am not due for an upgrade for several months. She offered to send me an Inspire, to arrive in 2 weeks if I want. Renew the contract for 2 years and it's mine. "Free"
Wow...
Nice try...if I do this, I am going to miss out on great pricing for some of the better Android devices yet to come. Or is this my last chance to get an HTC device with an unlocked bootloader? Should I bite?
No way, wait for the G Nex to hit AT&T
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I called AT&T to do my part in the campaign to unlock the bootloader of the Vivid. The CSA seemed to understand our issue (wanting root/not wanting CIQ). I told her that these were the issues that needed to be resolved before I would upgrade when I am due late 2012. She (out of nowhere) asked if there were any other devices that I was interested in that were capable of root and didn't have CIQ. When I mentioned that my wife had an Inspire, she quickly asked if I was interested in an upgrade today. (I am using a rooted Aria). I told her that I didn't want to pay the higher price for a device since I am not due for an upgrade for several months. She offered to send me an Inspire, to arrive in 2 weeks if I want. Renew the contract for 2 years and it's mine. "Free"
Wow...
Nice try...if I do this, I am going to miss out on great pricing for some of the better Android devices yet to come. Or is this my last chance to get an HTC device with an unlocked bootloader? Should I bite?
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Not a chance.... you have been able to get the inspire almost free on contract forever. Wait for something better.
gtkansan said:
Not a chance.... you have been able to get the inspire almost free on contract forever. Wait for something better.
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I got my son's Inspire for Free at Target 6 weeks ago.
Important to point out that I am in the middle of a 2 year contract. An upgrade so far from my contract end date typically makes one ineligible for discounts on new equipment, right?
Also...are we sure that the G Nex will have an unlocked bootloader and no CIQ?
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Important to point out that I am in the middle of a 2 year contract. An upgrade so far from my contract end date typically makes one ineligible for discounts on new equipment, right?
Also...are we sure that the G Nex will have an unlocked bootloader and no CIQ?
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nexus phones are specifically made with bootloaders you can unlock easily. since the verizon one comes with bloat we can assume, if at&t subsidizes it in their store, not through the nexus website, that it will have some at&T specific apps also.
but the phone will allow u to disable them just like u can on verizon
If they said that they'd send you an Inspire with no contractual obligation, I'd have been thinking "Wow, great!". Add the two-year wrinkle to it, and you are swiftly drop-kicked back to the reality that AT&T sucks.
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nexus phones are specifically made with bootloaders you can unlock easily. since the verizon one comes with bloat we can assume, if at&t subsidizes it in their store, not through the nexus website, that it will have some at&T specific apps also.
but the phone will allow u to disable them just like u can on verizon
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We can also argue now that the latest Google phone isn't a nexus anymore. Carriers like Verizon are ruining products.
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Inspire is a great device. Loved it, but I'd hold out.
Do you think the american Nexus 6 will be unlocked even when bought on contract? Sometime similar to how all Verizon's devices come unlocked??
The Nexus has never been locked even on carrier subsidy. But Verizon does things in mysterious ways....
HTC One M8
I hope not. I'd like to be able to buy this on carrier subsidy as I'm due for an upgrade and would like to not have to pay full price. Don't plan on moving off AT&T anytime soon, so yeah. But if the device is bootloader locked on subsidy I'll be pretty frustrated.
I'm betting it'll be just like any other subsidized phone. I doubt they'll lock the bootloader but carrier lock I'd bet on.
I'll blow a gasket if AT&T locks it down as I too have been due for a upgrade for years and since ive decided not to jump ship then I might as well get something out of it by buying a subsidized phone.
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I hope AT&T doesn't lock the bootloader so I can get one on the Next program :good:
Att.Fan1982 said:
I hope AT&T doesn't lock the bootloader so I can get one on the Next program :good:
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Locking a Nexus bootloader is sacrilege. I highly doubt that would be the case. Verizon didn't even lock the bootloader on the GNex when they had it. Can't speak for carrier locking though, as after that GNex debacle, I buy my phones off-contract.
what is the benefit of buying phone from carrier vs google store? granted carrier will subsidizes upfront cost of the phone. is there any other benefits when buying from carrier over google store?
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what is the benefit of buying phone from carrier vs google store? granted carrier will subsidizes upfront cost of the phone. is there any other benefits when buying from carrier over google store?
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Subsidized phones are cheaper. Its why programs like Jump and T-Nobiles 'no contract' pricing is a scam.
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Subsidized phones are cheaper. Its why programs like Jump and T-Nobiles 'no contract' pricing is a scam.
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Exactly. Same thing with ATT if you buy it unlocked(google play, no contract) then you simply pay $15/month if your on mobile share plan. If you take a two contract(subsidiy) then you pay $40/month. If you do ATT next you pay a lease fee of $30 dollars or so monthly plus the $15. So its more expensive monthly but you can pay the phone off when you want.
So two yr vs unlocked, $40-$15=$25(the difference). So $25/month x 24 months=$600(roughly price of phone.
In short, its the same thing, they always get their money, its just over what period they get it, you still pay. If you have the money buy it from google play, and have a cheaper monthly bill.
it will eventually be unlocked
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it will eventually be unlocked
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If it's not sold unlocked, its not a Nexus.
I know some of you said something about carrier unlock. So does anyone here know what the chances are that AT&T unlocks the carrier lock so that we can get OTA updates just like the unlocked version from the Play Store?
Trying to avoid paying $649 all of once, so if I can get the same phone from AT&T while making installments using Next, that would be awesome.
I'm assuming that the carrier phone be the same exact phone as the unlocked one, only difference being carrier lock.
I've owned three nexus phone gnex nexus 4 and 5 not one has been carrier locked
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"Nexus phones are always sold at a much cheaper price than other flagship phones."
Time's are changing...hopefully you're right though.
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I know some of you said something about carrier unlock. So does anyone here know what the chances are that AT&T unlocks the carrier lock so that we can get OTA updates just like the unlocked version from the Play Store?
Trying to avoid paying $649 all of once, so if I can get the same phone from AT&T while making installments using Next, that would be awesome.
I'm assuming that the carrier phone be the same exact phone as the unlocked one, only difference being carrier lock.
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I would like to avoid paying $649 as well by using my AT&T upgrade (no plans to leave so may as well take the discount)...however I won't buy a "compromised" Nexus. Worst case scenario I'll buy a S5, Note 4, or even iPhone 6 on contract and then sell it on eBay to make up for paying the full $649 for the Nexus 6.
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"Nexus phones are always sold at a much cheaper price than other flagship phones."
Time's are changing...hopefully you're right though.
I would like to avoid paying $649 as well by using my AT&T upgrade (no plans to leave so may as well take the discount)...however I won't buy a "compromised" Nexus. Worst case scenario I'll buy a S5, Note 4, or even iPhone 6 on contract and then sell it on eBay to make up for paying the full $649 for the Nexus 6.
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But what if it's not comprimised? I mean if you can change it to be exactly like the one you can buy from the Play Store, what really is the difference? Big IFs because we don't know enough right now, but I mean I would be certainly fine with turning into a "Play Store Edition" if I have the ability to do so.
If I can't, then yeah, I'm definitely not buying one from AT&T. I'd rather just get it straight from the Play Store and just pay the full $649 up front.
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But what if it's not comprimised? I mean if you can change it to be exactly like the one you can buy from the Play Store, what really is the difference? Big IFs because we don't know enough right now, but I mean I would be certainly fine with turning into a "Play Store Edition" if I have the ability to do so.
If I can't, then yeah, I'm definitely not buying one from AT&T. I'd rather just get it straight from the Play Store and just pay the full $649 up front.
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If it's not compromised, then it's a no-brainer for me to buy the cheaper one.
If it's compromised but still possible to change it to be almost exactly like the one from Google, then it's just a question of do I prefer to workaround the compromise or is it simply easier to buy the Google version and then use the contract to buy then sell a flagship phone on eBay to recoup the difference.
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If it's not compromised, then it's a no-brainer for me to buy the cheaper one.
If it's compromised but still possible to change it to be almost exactly like the one from Google, then it's just a question of do I prefer to workaround the compromise or is it simply easier to buy the Google version and then use the contract to buy then sell a flagship phone on eBay to recoup the difference.
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Makes sense.
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I hope AT&T doesn't lock the bootloader so I can get one on the Next program :good:
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You do know the Next program is a complete and utter scam, right?
http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/16/4528404/att-next-phone-upgrade-plans-a-huge-ripoff
http://www.phonearena.com/news/AT-T-Next-scam-youre-paying-twice-and-ETO-is-a-better-option_id45379
http://www.inquisitr.com/1170157/att-next-and-phone-upgrades-the-smart-scam/
http://www.imore.com/att-makes-next-plans-easier-get-still-not-good-value-they-should-be
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You do know the Next program is a complete and utter scam, right?
http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/16/4528404/att-next-phone-upgrade-plans-a-huge-ripoff
http://www.phonearena.com/news/AT-T-Next-scam-youre-paying-twice-and-ETO-is-a-better-option_id45379
http://www.inquisitr.com/1170157/att-next-and-phone-upgrades-the-smart-scam/
http://www.imore.com/att-makes-next-plans-easier-get-still-not-good-value-they-should-be
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True but what difference would it make if I, for example, bought the phone from AT&T at full price to avoid the two year contract and next program? I'll still end up paying the $20 or so a month of the subsidiary cost of a two year contract phone. You still end up paying almost double the price of the phone through AT&T's lovely loyalty customer gets f***ed program. Now let's say you're the financially smart guy that decides to buy the phone elsewhere and just use AT&T's service, you may save $100-150 on the cost of the device(which is a significant savings) BUT you still end up paying that $20 or so a month in subsidiary cost over the life of your service. Either way you look at it, you, the customer gets F****D! ☺
So I spoke to a Motorola rep who says the nexus 6 is coming to Verizon I guess the 65 million dollar question is... Will it be bootloader locked anyone have any insight into this?
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So I spoke to a Motorola rep who says the nexus 6 is coming to Verizon I guess the 65 million dollar question is... Will it be bootloader locked anyone have any insight into this?
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to be a nexus, it has to have the option to unlock the bootloader. so, to answer your question, which is supposed to go into q&a, not general.. no, wont be bootloader locked. but, in the same idea, it can be sim locked. which no one knows, except verizon.
edit.. got moved to q&a
This is the first thread I've seen about this device on Verizon, good work op!
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This is the first thread I've seen about this device on Verizon, good work op!
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lol thank you
Does it really matter? Verizon doesn't have any information in regards to a Nexus 6 release, if you want the phone, you would just purchase it from Motorola/Play Store/etc already and not count on Verizon to offer the phone. It'll work on Verizon network anyways.
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Does it really matter? Verizon doesn't have any information in regards to a Nexus 6 release, if you want the phone, you would just purchase it from Motorola/Play Store/etc already and not count on Verizon to offer the phone. It'll work on Verizon network anyways.
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Can someone enlighten me how purchasing Nexus 6 from Google is a viable option for Verizon? I understand you just need the chip, but plan-wise, there are no cheaper plans which remove the price of the phone in the plan, right? In other words, you can get the phone working, but aren't you still paying their high monthly rates?
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Can someone enlighten me how purchasing Nexus 6 from Google is a viable option for Verizon? I understand you just need the chip, but plan-wise, there are no cheaper plans which remove the price of the phone in the plan, right? In other words, you can get the phone working, but aren't you still paying their high monthly rates?
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Welcome to Verizon......
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to be a nexus, it has to have the option to unlock the bootloader. so, to answer your question, which is supposed to go into q&a, not general.. no, wont be bootloader locked. but, in the same idea, it can be sim locked. which no one knows, except verizon.
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Well actually we do know it won't be sim locked, Verizon can't legally sim lock a phone that uses their LTE network.
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Can someone enlighten me how purchasing Nexus 6 from Google is a viable option for Verizon? I understand you just need the chip, but plan-wise, there are no cheaper plans which remove the price of the phone in the plan, right? In other words, you can get the phone working, but aren't you still paying their high monthly rates?
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Yeah but that goes for any phone you would buy from Verizon. You can save money if you know what you're doing. I got the droid turbo subsidized on launch day, sold it on craigslist and bought a note 4 for cheaper on craigslist the same day. Then I did it again to get the nexus. Technically I spent less than $100 to use those three phones since the end of October (when the turbo launched).
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Well actually we do know it won't be sim locked, Verizon can't legally sim lock a phone that uses their LTE network.
Yeah but that goes for any phone you would buy from Verizon. You can save money if you know what you're doing. I got the droid turbo subsidized on launch day, sold it on craigslist and bought a note 4 for cheaper on craigslist the same day. Then I did it again to get the nexus. Technically I spent less than $100 to use those three phones since the end of October (when the turbo launched).
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OK, I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something like how T-Mobile's charges less for their plans if you pay monthly for the full price of the phone. I even looked into their prepaid plans, and they're almost more expensive than the subsidized ones... Do you receive any discount on their Edge plan if you supply your own phone? Sorry if this is a little off-topic.
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OK, I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something like how T-Mobile's charges less for their plans if you pay monthly for the full price of the phone. I even looked into their prepaid plans, and they're almost more expensive than the subsidized ones... Do you receive any discount on their Edge plan if you supply your own phone? Sorry if this is a little off-topic.
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Oh no, that's because T-Mobile doesn't technically subsidize the devices, although obviously you pay less overall.
I'm not sure about a BYOD policy with the Edge plan, but I do know it's a very costly plan for what it is. As I mentioned, a little wheeling and dealing can get you a new device whenever you want for a whole lot cheaper.
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OK, I just wanted to make sure I'm not missing something like how T-Mobile's charges less for their plans if you pay monthly for the full price of the phone. I even looked into their prepaid plans, and they're almost more expensive than the subsidized ones... Do you receive any discount on their Edge plan if you supply your own phone? Sorry if this is a little off-topic.
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If you supply your own phone for Verizon the monthly charge for that line is $15 not $40 (the price on contract). This only applies if you are not currently in a 2 year contract. You have to call them and they will switch it to $15 for the line which is the same price as if you had edge. The price for data remains the same.
Yet another useless thread :good:. First it's Verizon reps, now Motorola reps, what's next? Reported, hope it gets closed.
If there is any further questions about the N6 on Verizon please use this existing discussion thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-released-verizon-february-26th-t2992071 Nexus 6 released on Verizon February 26th ?
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I would like to order a Samsung Note 8 from Samsungs website, but unsure whether to order the unlocked version or the T Mobile version. Pros cons? I am on T Mobile USA.
Delete, question already asked, cheers. and sorry.
Limeybastard said:
I would like to order a Samsung Note 8 from Samsungs website, but unsure whether to order the unlocked version or the T Mobile version. Pros cons? I am on T Mobile USA.
Delete, question already asked, cheers. and sorry.
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I ordered mine from Samsung.com and my biggest pro was the $425.00 discount for prior Note 7 owners. I also have a S8+ and from what I've heard the unlocked version doesn't have wifi calling but I might be wrong.
No real cons for grabbing the unlocked version other than native video calling will not work on the unlocked version. Promptness of updates from T-Mobile vs Samsung direct is also something to consider. I'm speaking from the point of view of a stock T-Mobile N8 vs an unlocked N8.
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I ordered mine from Samsung.com and my biggest pro was the $425.00 discount for prior Note 7 owners. I also have a S8+ and from what I've heard the unlocked version doesn't have wifi calling but I might be wrong.
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I dont qualify for the discount,. The dumb asses as Samsung just emailed saying the Unlocked version aint gonna ship until October, whereas my wifes T Mobile version will be Sept 14. Cocksuckers, maybe I should just order the T mobile version? BTW all in good faith on my side
pros are the discount but you can also buy the tmo variant from Samsung as well. I almost bought an unlocked one from Samsung but I found out if you buy the carrier variant from Samsung, Tmobile can unlock from the day you receive it even if its financed through Samsung. Now I am betting it will be like s7 and s8 to where you can odin/adb the unlocked firmware onto the tmo device to get rid of the carrier bloat.
now the unlocked normally doesn't mean that much to me because I plan on staying with TMO anyway but I really want a Deep sea blue when it becomes available so I need to resell the one o have. I would wait until the blue is released but I cant pass up the note 7 discount. since I can unlock the TMO device on day 1, it will be easier to sell when it comes to that point. I believe all the snap dragon phones are built the same just have different software per carrier. so If my TMO device is sim unlocked, I can flash the stock Verizon firmware and will look/work just like a stock Verizon device(lte bands, apps etc).
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I dont qualify for the discount,. The dumb asses as Samsung just emailed saying the Unlocked version aint gonna ship until October, whereas my wifes T Mobile version will be Sept 14. Cocksuckers, maybe I should just order the T mobile version? BTW all in good faith on my side
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If you don't qualify for the discount, and you're going to TMo, and you're getting 2 Notes, forget buying from Samsung, get the BOGO from T-Mobile instead.
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If you don't qualify for the discount, and you're going to TMo, and you're getting 2 Notes, forget buying from Samsung, get the BOGO from T-Mobile instead.
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I read about that, but I dont want to get another line of service and all the credit debit T mobile shennanigans.
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I read about that, but I dont want to get another line of service and all the credit debit T mobile shennanigans.
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Ok, because you didn't qualify for the discount, it's just weird you're willing to pay full price (and lose $900+) and stick with Samsung. For the TMo deal, the downside for that is adding and keeping a line and having to resell the 2nd phone. If you're keeping to lines anyway (you can port one of your numbers to the new line and cancel the current one where it came from) and you wanted 2 phones anyway. The only downside in your case would be paying in full for 2 phones and waiting a few months to get the second phone's refund (prepaid card) to come in.
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Ok, because you didn't qualify for the discount, it's just weird you're willing to pay full price (and lose $900+) and stick with Samsung. For the TMo deal, the downside for that is adding and keeping a line and having to resell the 2nd phone. If you're keeping to lines anyway (you can port one of your numbers to the new line and cancel the current one where it came from) and you wanted 2 phones anyway. The only downside in your case would be paying in full for 2 phones and waiting a few months to get the second phone's refund (prepaid card) to come in.
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Ive currently got 4 lines on my simple choice unlimited plan. Two of the lines are "free" when they did the promo last year, I only pay tax on each of the two free lines.
Its my understanding that to get the BOGO Note 8 from tmo , I would need to buy one on EIP and ADD another line for the "free" note 8 to my account?
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Ive currently got 4 lines on my simple choice unlimited plan. Two of the lines are "free" when they did the promo last year, I only pay tax on each of the two free lines.
Its my understanding that to get the BOGO Note 8 from tmo , I would need to buy one on EIP and ADD another line for the "free" note 8 to my account?
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Yes, that's correct. Is anyone using the "free" extra lines? If no one is, maybe cancel one of them now, add the line for the promo, then cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. If all 4 lines are in use, I'm not sure if what the line limit for Simple Choice, but I believe you can go up to 8. If that's the case, add a fifth line and cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. The downside to this is you might lose the bill credits for one of the free lines, but $10 a month extra is less than $930 for a free Note 8. Since you're buying 2 Notes anyway from Samsung, just get the 2 Notes on EIP with T-mobile and and pay them off in full once you receive the prepaid card (you can pay one off WITH the prepaid card so you don't have to worry about how to spend it), or keep them on EIP if you were planning to finance with Samsung.
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Yes, that's correct. Is anyone using the "free" extra lines? If no one is, maybe cancel one of them now, add the line for the promo, then cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. If all 4 lines are in use, I'm not sure if what the line limit for Simple Choice, but I believe you can go up to 8. If that's the case, add a fifth line and cancel it once the prepaid card comes in. The downside to this is you might lose the bill credits for one of the free lines, but $10 a month extra is less than $930 for a free Note 8. Since you're buying 2 Notes anyway from Samsung, just get the 2 Notes on EIP with T-mobile and and pay them off in full once you receive the prepaid card (you can pay one off WITH the prepaid card so you don't have to worry about how to spend it), or keep them on EIP if you were planning to finance with Samsung.
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The two "free" lines, If I cancel one, then the other will be charged as normal, that was part of their promo terms and conditions. Or I could just cancel both. However, the lines are useful for me , since one is also used in a Tab S2 international version for voice and data. I remember their prepaid card shennagins, it took T mobile about 9 weeks until I got mine when they did that promo to pay off my ATT contract back when I joined tmo a few years ago. I had to pay ATT about 800$ or so, then after 9 weeks I got a mastercard from T Mobile. Luckily I had the cash at the time to pay off the ATT termination fees , else it would have gone into collections. Left a bad taste in my mouth. As did T mobiles last promo, in respect of the two free lines I got. It took them 6 months to fix billing issues, meaning I was charged $40 per each of those 2 free lines for that duration before credits kicked in. Was terrible. Hence I dont trust T Mobile nor their promos anymore.
I currently have my account and bill the way I like it. Hence getting the phones from Samsung and leaving T Mobile and their devices EIP, JOD shennanigans clear LOL
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The two "free" lines, If I cancel one, then the other will be charged as normal, that was part of their promo terms and conditions. Or I could just cancel both. However, the lines are useful for me , since one is also used in a Tab S2 international version for voice and data. I remember their prepaid card shennagins, it took T mobile about 9 weeks until I got mine when they did that promo to pay off my ATT contract back when I joined tmo a few years ago. I had to pay ATT about 800$ or so, then after 9 weeks I got a mastercard from T Mobile. Luckily I had the cash at the time to pay off the ATT termination fees , else it would have gone into collections. Left a bad taste in my mouth. As did T mobiles last promo, in respect of the two free lines I got. It took them 6 months to fix billing issues, meaning I was charged $40 per each of those 2 free lines for that duration before credits kicked in. Was terrible. Hence I dont trust T Mobile nor their promos anymore.
I currently have my account and bill the way I like it. Hence getting the phones from Samsung and leaving T Mobile and their devices EIP, JOD shennanigans clear LOL
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Yeah, at this point it's up to you whether it's worth all that time and effort to get a free phone.
harveydent said:
Yeah, at this point it's up to you whether it's worth all that time and effort to get a free phone.
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I was just reading that thread on slickdeals, damn got a head ache reading that . I was considering getting an iphone for trade in or a GS5, but aint worth the hassles or risks for me.:silly:
Is the unlocked version from Samsung an exynos/international version, is it just a unlocked snapdragon U version?
I want an exynos version for rooting and developer supported ROMs????
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Is the unlocked version from Samsung an exynos/international version, is it just a unlocked snapdragon U version?
I want an exynos version for rooting and developer supported ROMs????
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The US (SIM) Unlocked version, is Qualcomm Snapdragon powered.
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Amd4life said:
Is the unlocked version from Samsung an exynos/international version, is it just a unlocked snapdragon U version?
I want an exynos version for rooting and developer supported ROMs????
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Do you think it will be locked down tight for root or do you think they will be able to get root since you can get it unlocked???
DMK1111 said:
Do you think it will be locked down tight for root or do you think they will be able to get root since you can get it unlocked???
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The bootloader is the same locked one on all the Snapdragon models. Unlocked means carrier SIM unlocked, so you can use it with any SIM card that fits.
I ended up saying screw it and ordering an Exynos version because I hate not being able to customize an expensive piece of property that is entirely mine.
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The bootloader is the same locked one on all the Snapdragon models. Unlocked means carrier SIM unlocked, so you can use it with any SIM card that fits.
I ended up saying screw it and ordering an Exynos version because I hate not being able to customize an expensive piece of property that is entirely mine.
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My wife got her note 8 two days ago. I like it but I have a Pixel XL and have all my custom stuff on it. We were both victims of the Note 7 fiasco! She went iPhone 7 I went Pixel. She hates her iPhone so jumped on the note 8... Bouncing all over the house all happy again. They offered us $400.00 off if we turn in a phone like I have a Galaxy 5 I can still keep my pixel and get the note 8 so I might just do it.
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...06/oneplus-6t-tmobile-us-android-phone-report
Well this is interesting news and great for us T-Mobile customers.
The big question that remains is... will the T-Mobile version have a bootloader that can't be unlocked? If so, the deal is off. However, if the bootloader on the T-Mobile version is unlockable, this may be a great option for those of us on T-Mobile. It will allow me to sell the OP6 and pickup the 6T through my carrier, with no up-front cost, using my active 'JUMP! On Demand' program.
Pretty excited to see how this pans out. But I'll remain perfectly happy with my OP6, in the mean time.
What would be the difference between carrier and international unlock phone?
The bootloader would most likely stay unlocked. Due to the open betas it does and os previews. T-Mobile doesn't lock the devices it's the phone maker. And it's also the warrenty. Us has rule that if the bootloader is unlocked the warrenty is void. But OnePlus give you the tools to fix your device and doesn't void your warrenty if you unlock.
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What would be the difference between carrier and international unlock phone?
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That's still up in the air. It will come down to whether or not the bootloader is unlockable on the T-Mobile version. But, as joemossjr mentioned, it's unlikely that the T-Mobile variant of the 6T would prevent you from unlocking the bootloader, considering it goes against everything we know and love with previous/current OnePlus phones. But, time will tell.
It would be nice to be able to get the phone on my JoD. Of course I might have to wait as I just got the red OP6
Read about this today... definitely has my attention! The 6T spec's sound awesome...
It will definitely be network locked.
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I'm excited about this, but also curious about what changes will be made for the 6t. We may see an even bigger bump than from the 5 to the 5t, as this will be huge opportunity for OnePlus. What do you guys think?
I want to know what optimized for the carriers network means. Does that mean the unlocked version you get from OP won't be the same you pick up from T-mobile?
They both would have band 71 (the 6 does) so what are they optimizing?
I definitely want to take advantage of band 71 since my 5T isn't capable. Just curious to see the differences in the 2.
If the carrier version truly is better somehow, as long as it stayed the same price & didn't include bloat ware, I'd be tempted.
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This is horrible news. This is going to ruin op devices. They are going to get ready more expensive they are going to require you to buy a plan that your locked into for years. This will make it harder to get op devices in the future as well since they will do credit checks and all that to see if your even eligible. I hope this doesn't happen. The whole point of these phones is being unlocked already.
se7ensde said:
This is horrible news. This is going to ruin op devices. They are going to get ready more expensive they are going to require you to buy a plan that your locked into for years. This will make it harder to get op devices in the future as well since they will do credit checks and all that to see if your even eligible. I hope this doesn't happen. The whole point of these phones is being unlocked already.
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LOL don't panic! Geez.
#1 there are no contracts for T-mobile and hasn't been for about 4 years or so.
#2 It will require a credit check if you do a payment plan over 24 months instead of buying it outright.
#3 You can STILL just buy the phone FROM OnePlus. They aren't only selling it through OnePlus. Buying through T-mobile will just allow you to make payments if you can't or don't want to pay in full upfront.
People actually use Tmobile???
dgunn said:
People actually use Tmobile???
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Are you trying to be sarcastic?
Lol
dgunn said:
People actually use Tmobile???
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People still use AT&T?
People still use Smartphones?! [emoji50]
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sn0warmy said:
People still use AT&T?
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People actually use Tmobile???
Liking our tmobile $30. 5 gig plan's for the last 5 years.
Am I the only one who doesn't trust an American Cellular Provider to NOT completely destroy the software before they offer the phone and then delay standard updates for six months to a year? I think OnePlus would have been better off negotiating with Best Buy and making Amazon an official retailer (hell Walmart is an option too here).
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Am I the only one who doesn't trust an American Cellular Provider to NOT completely destroy the software before they offer the phone and then delay standard updates for six months to a year? I think OnePlus would have been better off negotiating with Best Buy and making Amazon an official retailer (hell Walmart is an option too here).
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Out off all the carriers. T-Mobile is the best one not to add a bunch of crap to it. Historically they don't do much to the overall software.
Everyone needs to relax, geez....[emoji849][emoji41]
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6T ~ T-Mobile :laugh:
Did a speed test in Henderson, nv today. T-Mobile