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To buy Xperia T or not?

Hello,
Im gonna buy Xperia T and due to that id like to ask few questions to its users:
1) Does it have any disadvantages you may let me know about? The disadvantages that might be noticable just after some time of usage?
2) Does it contain an earphones or a headset with microphone?
3) Is it able to automatically adjust display brightness depending on light (ie. darker inside building, lighter outside)?
4) What about the rubber layer on the back of the phone? Anyone noticed any problems with it? Does it peel?
5) If i root this phone, will i void the warranty? Will root give me the ability to remove useless for me applications?
Thanks in advance!

belliash said:
Hello,
Im gonna buy Xperia T and due to that id like to ask few questions to its users:
1) Does it have any disadvantages you may let me know about? The disadvantages that might be noticable just after some time of usage?
2) Does it contain an earphones or a headset with microphone?
3) Is it able to automatically adjust display brightness depending on light (ie. darker inside building, lighter outside)?
4) What about the rubber layer on the back of the phone? Anyone noticed any problems with it? Does it peel?
5) If i root this phone, will i void the warranty? Will root give me the ability to remove useless for me applications?
Thanks in advance!
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1- Notification led is very dim.
2- Yes.
3- Yes.
4- Some people have reported issues in that regard. I don't have a scratch on mine after almost five months, and I don't use any kind of case.
5- Rooting is not supposed to void the warranty. And being root you can obviously remove whatever app you want.

so, in your opinion, its worth buying?

belliash said:
Hello,
Im gonna buy Xperia T and due to that id like to ask few questions to its users:
1) Does it have any disadvantages you may let me know about? The disadvantages that might be noticable just after some time of usage?
2) Does it contain an earphones or a headset with microphone?
3) Is it able to automatically adjust display brightness depending on light (ie. darker inside building, lighter outside)?
4) What about the rubber layer on the back of the phone? Anyone noticed any problems with it? Does it peel?
5) If i root this phone, will i void the warranty? Will root give me the ability to remove useless for me applications?
Thanks in advance!
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buy Xperia T

One more question... How big is /data partition on stock firmware? This should be a place where you can install apps from market... Anyway it is on HTC devices, dunno what about xperias

belliash said:
so, in your opinion, its worth buying?
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Yes. I'm satisfied with it.
belliash said:
One more question... How big is /data partition on stock firmware? This should be a place where you can install apps from market... Anyway it is on HTC devices, dunno what about xperias
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2 GB I believe.

I'm gonna chime in and play a little devil's advocate, since I haven't been very satisfied with my XT.
1) Sound quality is pretty poor, despite the fact that most online reviewers say it's very good. It has a discernible hiss, which is even worse on CM. You also lose the only gimmick (bravia engine) that makes the screen not suck if you decide you want custom ROMs.
2) Yes. They're actually the best OEM headphones that I've ever had.
3) Yes. Every high-end android can do that.
4) Mine started peeling after two weeks of usage. I've gotten a gel case meanwhile. Get a white one if possible. White ones are glossy and don't have this issue.
5) Yes to the first question and also yes to the second one.
The internal partition is 2 gb like most phones.
Personal opinion: Get the Xperia T if you'd like proper future support from CM. If you don't want to complicate your life with ROMs, get something else, like the One X.

Unlocking your bootloader voids your warranty. Root itself does not (unless you are relying on unlocking your bootloader to root).

belliash said:
Hello,
Im gonna buy Xperia T and due to that id like to ask few questions to its users:
1) Does it have any disadvantages you may let me know about? The disadvantages that might be noticable just after some time of usage?
2) Does it contain an earphones or a headset with microphone?
3) Is it able to automatically adjust display brightness depending on light (ie. darker inside building, lighter outside)?
4) What about the rubber layer on the back of the phone? Anyone noticed any problems with it? Does it peel?
5) If i root this phone, will i void the warranty? Will root give me the ability to remove useless for me applications?
Thanks in advance!
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I have a TX, which is very similar to the T with only minimal design changes, so here's my take on it:
1) As the first guy said, dim notification led is also an issue with the TX. It's not unfathomable, but you'd wish it was brighter/stronger. Other than that, only the concave back is to be complained about a little bit, as it sometimes makes for a softer grip - but I'm saying that mostly based on taste, anyway.
2) Yes. Very quality earphones with microphone, as usual with Sony.
3) Certainly.
4) I've had mine for a little bit more than a month now, and the back rubber is like rock-solid so far - and that because I scratch it against my jeans a lot. No sign of peeling whatsoever yet.
5) As the answer above mine says, rooting only should not void your warranty - unlocking the bootloader will, and that's for almost every smartphone out there.
Hope it helps you make your choice, but if I were you, at this point, I'd wait and place my money on Xperia Z.

belliash said:
Hello,
Im gonna buy Xperia T and due to that id like to ask few questions to its users:
1) Does it have any disadvantages you may let me know about? The disadvantages that might be noticable just after some time of usage?
2) Does it contain an earphones or a headset with microphone?
3) Is it able to automatically adjust display brightness depending on light (ie. darker inside building, lighter outside)?
4) What about the rubber layer on the back of the phone? Anyone noticed any problems with it? Does it peel?
5) If i root this phone, will i void the warranty? Will root give me the ability to remove useless for me applications?
Thanks in advance!
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1) It does have slight disadvantages. The sound quality is poor. The internal speaker volume is lower than expected from a Sony device. Even the headphone volume cannot be cranked up enough. I always listen to it in maximum volume. My previous low end Galaxy Ace had much better sounds. The other VERY ANNOYING bug is the Walkman app bug. If you lock the screen while playing, the phone will not move onto the next track until you press the screen unlock button again. Very annoying, but this can be solved with a 3rd party player. Im disappointed that Sony has so many sound related problems.
2) Yes it does. These are pretty good ones. Not as good as my Sennheisers.
3) Yes I am very satisfied with the auto brightness feature.
4) The back peeling problem was only for a certain batch of TXs so you have nothing to worry about now, because as far as I know those phones were replaced if they were under warranty.
5) Yes root will void warranty, but you can always unroot it to get back the original warranty status. Rooting is the only way to remove unwanted apps.
A few other things, my Xperia T is very durable. I have splashed water on it, dropped it from chest height, (I' m 5'6) and there is not a single scratch. The camera is very impressive especially the autofocus.

if I were you I would wait and buy Sony Xperia Z..
Sony Xperia T now is a mid-range phone ! So its to expensive for a mid range phone.

R: To buy Xperia T or not?
belliash said:
Hello,
Im gonna buy Xperia T and due to that id like to ask few questions to its users:
1) Does it have any disadvantages you may let me know about? The disadvantages that might be noticable just after some time of usage?
2) Does it contain an earphones or a headset with microphone?
3) Is it able to automatically adjust display brightness depending on light (ie. darker inside building, lighter outside)?
4) What about the rubber layer on the back of the phone? Anyone noticed any problems with it? Does it peel?
5) If i root this phone, will i void the warranty? Will root give me the ability to remove useless for me applications?
Thanks in advance!
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1 - the notification led is way too small and the battery
2 - yes
3 - yes
4 - no scratches and no peeling, I like the feeling when you hold the phone in your hands
5 - No about the warranty and yes you can remove any apps you wish
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Geo2160 said:
I'm gonna chime in and play a little devil's advocate, since I haven't been very satisfied with my XT.
1) Sound quality is pretty poor, despite the fact that most online reviewers say it's very good. It has a discernible hiss, which is even worse on CM. You also lose the only gimmick (bravia engine) that makes the screen not suck if you decide you want custom ROMs.
2) Yes. They're actually the best OEM headphones that I've ever had.
3) Yes. Every high-end android can do that.
4) Mine started peeling after two weeks of usage. I've gotten a gel case meanwhile. Get a white one if possible. White ones are glossy and don't have this issue.
5) Yes to the first question and also yes to the second one.
The internal partition is 2 gb like most phones.
Personal opinion: Get the Xperia T if you'd like proper future support from CM. If you don't want to complicate your life with ROMs, get something else, like the One X.
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It's not true what you say about the bravia engine. The BE only works for photo's and video's. For the rest the screen is the same
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thedisturbedone said:
1) It does have slight disadvantages. The sound quality is poor. The internal speaker volume is lower than expected from a Sony device. Even the headphone volume cannot be cranked up enough. I always listen to it in maximum volume. My previous low end Galaxy Ace had much better sounds. The other VERY ANNOYING bug is the Walkman app bug. If you lock the screen while playing, the phone will not move onto the next track until you press the screen unlock button again. Very annoying, but this can be solved with a 3rd party player. Im disappointed that Sony has so many sound related problems.
2) Yes it does. These are pretty good ones. Not as good as my Sennheisers.
3) Yes I am very satisfied with the auto brightness feature.
4) The back peeling problem was only for a certain batch of TXs so you have nothing to worry about now, because as far as I know those phones were replaced if they were under warranty.
5) Yes root will void warranty, but you can always unroot it to get back the original warranty status. Rooting is the only way to remove unwanted apps.
A few other things, my Xperia T is very durable. I have splashed water on it, dropped it from chest height, (I' m 5'6) and there is not a single scratch. The camera is very impressive especially the autofocus.
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I don't have the walkman bug, works fine. Sound is quit loud to.

r-l said:
It's not true what you say about the bravia engine. The BE only works for photo's and video's. For the rest the screen is the same
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What I said still stands. The screen is mediocre at best, and you lose the only thing that makes it decent in certain situations.

r-l said:
It's not true what you say about the bravia engine. The BE only works for photo's and video's. For the rest the screen is the same
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I don't have the walkman bug, works fine. Sound is quit loud to.
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Are you positive about the walkman bug? Because loads of other people have been complaining too? Which JB version are you using btw?

If you can get it at a good price then buy it.
I got it for £16 pm and love it, great looking phone and stands out from the crowd.
Every other phone looks like the bog standard boring design.
The screen is gorgeous and the phone feels good in hand considering its size.
I've had no issues with peeling, Sony said it was a faulty batch and is covered by warranty anyway.
The battery was great under ICS and is getting there under Jelly Bean.
The camera could be better and there is an issue with some SD cards ,
apart from that , it's excellent.

I got one more question:
Di you got feeling like there was a spring inside your phone? Eg. when you knock it side or when it is vibrating? How is your vibration?

anyone?

Yes it's normal, .....unless you hear it go boing

[Q] In-depth questions and queries

Hello guys.
I'm a long time reader but a new member.
Almost two months ago, my HTC One V was stolen by pickpockets in a crowded Mumbai train.
Since then, I was looking to buy a new phone. Soon, phones like Xperia M and L caught my eye. While I was browsing to phones, I saw Xperia SP, and the bang for the buck it gave, made me decide that this might be the phone I might buy.
Now, as I was looking and going through stuff, I came to know a lot of the cons of the phone, while pros outnumber the cons, the cons were quite important in this case. I've gone through a lots of threads and have known a lot, but some questions remain. Hence, I'm asking some questions in order to solve my queries and give a better view about it. Wish to get proper replies.
1. What version is the Indian variant. C5302, C5303 or C5306.
2. Lots of people say it's heavy. How do you feel about it.
3. GSM Arena wasn't happy with the loudspeaker, does it ring loudly? I see all the phones having a speaker in the back, causing it to ring very quietly.
4. Now an important one. On my HTC One V, I had an option to move apps to SD card. As I was browsing, through the forums, I came to know that it's not possible anymore without rooting. And rooting is something I do not prefer as of now (I had huge plans for One V, but unfortunetely, it was stolen before I decided to root it after the warranty was over).
On One V, I was having loop boot problem after moving the files to the SD card, however, that's not an issue here. Thing is, on One V, I had used AppMgr III (App 2 SD) to move my apps to SD card.
So now is my question. Will App 2 SD work without rooting? Has anyone tried using it without rooting? The Apps 2 SD page mentions this:
Move apps function may not work on your device as manufacture removes the function of moving apps to SD from Android system (not support: S4, S DUOS, Note2, Tab 2, L5-L9, OneX, 7-10" tablet)
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Does this apply to Xperia devices too?
This is very much a concerning thing to me, as 5.8 GB isn't a lot if one likes gaming.
5. Has the lack of sufficient space, just 5.8 GB, ever caused concerns for you?
6. Again, important one. How bad is the WiFi? I live in a 1BHK house in a suburb. While I mostly use WiFi (and internet for that matter) near my router and PC situated in the hall, my One V never did well for reaching the bedroom, something I was expecting SP to do well until I came to know about the problem.
Same situation here, I do not prefer to root my phone. Can the WiFi be fixed in any other way? Different channel / mode?
7. Does the WiFi fixes available here actually fix your WiFi? After using the fixes available, is it comparable to other phones' / laptops' reception? What do you think, it's software problem or hardware problem?
8. Do you expect Sony to fix the WiFI problem in in future?
9. People who have rooted then flashed their phones to latest Android should not having any WiFi problems right?
10. I remember some version of iPhone having grip of death for WiFi. Do you guys think SP's bad WiFi reception is due to this?
11. Now the camera. I've seen enough photos / graphs to say that Xperia SP probably has the worst smartphone camera I've seen. Comparing it to my HTC One V, One V was like godsent camera phone. So what to you guys think, is the camera something that is acceptable or just total deal breaker?
I personally do not have any use for the camera. However, my sister is a big camera selfie lover. While I see that the camera takes some beautiful vivid pictures outside, my use the camera would be mostly indoors.
From what I can understand is that the camera is over-compressing the images? I've seen photos very in-depth and have concluded that, one, SP pictures lack details, two, have lots of noise.
Those who wanna compare it on GSM Arena, don't use to ISO chart, see the camera on the color poster: gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=3&idPhone1=5364&idPhone2=5363&idPhone3=5375.
Compare it something like HTC One V and see the difference of quality of images.
While I've photoshopped and removed noise from the pictures I've found from the internet, from Xperia SP, I don't know if it's worth it, so I'm confused.
12. I've read some users saying that they tried 3rd party camera apps like ProCapture and they immediately saw that Xperia SP started taking great pictures. Can you say the same for yourself? Has anyone tried doing such?
13. Have people who have rooted / flashed SP to latest Android see any improvements in the camera?
14. What do you think. Is Xperia SP's crappy camera about hardware quality of the camera or the software?
15. Do you, being realist here, expect Sony to fix the camera with an update?
16. Now about rooting. Will rooting void the warranty? I read somewhere that if you do not unlock the bootloader, you do not void the warranty. Is it possible to just root the phone without unlocking the bootloader without flash it?
17. Noob question. Do you receive updates if you have rooted the phone? If yes, lets say, I made changes to the WiFi file, and then I updated the phone, will the root stay? If not, will the changes made to the file stay?
18. Now about the CPU. I know the phones are moving very faster these days. However, I'm making a big investment if I buy Xperia SP. So SP being so powerful of a phone it is, do you expect it to stay good to play generally powerful games for lets say, next 4 years? I'm not a person who likes changing his phone every year or two, nor do I have money to do that.
19. Some people are reporting screen touch issues when charging or when putting on desk. It is said to be fixed, is it true?
20. I compared the phone to Galaxy S3 and found that S3 had more contrast ratio when playing videos, however, Xperia SP seemed more bright, what to you guys think?
21. How is the front camera? I don't care about the resolution, but clear enough for video calling?
22. Any other problems / things anyone feels worth mentioning?
That's pretty much it for the phone, however, I have more questions.
23. I'm willing to squeeze out more money for a better phone like Xperia ZR, Galaxy S3 and such. However, they have their own problems. Like, S3 is nowhere to be compared with Xperia SP as SP's graphics is top-end.
As for ZR. I have two problems with it, one small, one big. The small one being people calling it's loudspeaker muffed and the big one being it not being Gorilla Glass. To understand what I'm concerned about it, see this: youtube.com/watch?v=4GzYnDnZDRg and this: youtube.com/watch?v=Q2qdwsFd-Qw. It shows that ZR screen is neither tough / shatter-proof nor, thanks to the sheet, scratch proof. And removing the sheet means warranty void. I've seen that even Xperia Z has the same thing, which makes me think how people manage with this?
24. What alternative phones to SP price range (Rs. 20500 to 22500 here - $330 to $360) or Galaxy S3 / ZR price range (Rs. 26500 here - $425) do you guys recommend?
25. Is the phone worth it? Will you recommend it to me?
Anyway, sorry for huge post. As so many days of sadness for the loss of my HTC One V, I'm asking this, so please bear with me. All these questions have been churning in my mind from almost month and a half now.
Any help with the questions will be greatly appreciated.

1- I don't know, It could be the 5303 or 5302
2-Yes, its heavier than the Z and ZL at 155 grams
3-Ring volume its OK, better than my previous phone (Xperia pro)
4-No. You cant move apps to the external microSD without root.
5-The internal storage its just for apps, the external for media. Its enough but could be better
6-I've never had problems with the Wi-Fi the last 5-6 months with my SP
7-They are just placeboes
8-I dont think so
9-????????????
10-Could be the metal used on the frame, If thats the reason the Z1 may have similar problems
11-Mediocre photo camera, my old pro (neo,ray and arc similar) took better pictures. Video recording is OK. You may want to use another camera app
12-Even Instagram's camera takes better pictures
13-I haven't seen any improvements
14-Could be both
15-May or may not be fixed when 4.3 arrives
16-In many countries, rooting voids the warranty...but just keep a copy of the STOCK, ORIGINAL firmware and flash it before taking it to a service shop. Bootloader unlock may void the warranty, Its better to ask before doing it because it cannot be undone. Dont worry about flashing, on a Sony phone its very easy
17-Yes, you may receive updates but you will lose the root access. Sometimes Update Service refuses to update if the phone is rooted, sometimes not. After unlockin the bootloader you cant use official sony tools, just flashtool.
18.I'm sorry to hear that...I made a huge investment on my SP too, but electronics, specifically smartphones are not designed or built to last. They are disposable. Right now its a good phone...but next year will be obsolete.
19-I had that issue. I dont know if there is a fix for that, but I tried disabling the glove mode and it seems to stop the touch issues
20-Screen isn't that great, cant compare to LED screens
21-Z and ZL have better front cameras. The one in the SP is still as bad as the one you will find on a 2011 phone
22-Phone overheats, that makes some people feel uncomfortable, up to 47 degrres celcius when playin real racing 3. No big deal for me
23-??????
24-I live in Mexico.
25-Yes, it will be a good phone for the next 12-18 months. After that time you will have to buy a new one.

As cachanilla86 answer almost everything.
for Q9. No - most of the sp suffers from wifi problems. whether rooted or not...
for Q23 Check S4 or xperia Z ultra...

1. Don’t know either
2. Yes its heavy, a manly phone
3. The loudspeaker is fine, may not be the loudest on earth but it’s fine.
4. Apps to SD is a contentious issue – the official line is that Google don’t like external SD cards and from Jelly Bean onwards it was no longer part of any Android builds. It’s the same with hardware navigation buttons, Google would prefer them to be on the screen soft keys. However manufacturers can do what they want – Samsung does what it likes and still uses hardware buttons and has tweaked their builds to allow app to sd. Sony haven’t had hardware nav buttons for some time now and perhaps their love for DRM makes them sympathetic to the idea of stopping users from moving apps around.
Anyway, it doesn’t work without rooting, hell it doesn’t work in the normal sense when you ARE rooted – hopefully a nice CM build will come along and resolve the situation for us.
5. Yes and no – it would be nice to install loads of games without a care, but I only really play one ‘big’ game at a time. Rooting can help too because you can move the data portions of big games to an external sd card with folder mount.
6. Range is excellent for me, the authentication process can take ages though, I had the same problem with my 2011 xperia – when the phone is trying to connect to the router signal strength seems to drop and I think you get into a loop of the phone thinking the wifi is too weak to connect to and it swaps to data, the signal goes up again and you try to connect but the same thing happens again. With my 2011 device most custom kernels, especially ones that were cm10 based, connection was instant – this is almost certainly a software issue.
There is talk that the most modern routers don’t have as many issues.
7. The fix that works best for me is the one that changes the level at which the phone decides the wifi reception is so bad it has to swap to data – the range is and has always been great for me, better than other devices in my house.
8. There have been 3 build versions of the phone so far – I’ve always had to apply the tweak. Don’t think Sony regard it as a problem.
9. There are no custom roms out there that provide the latest version of android, they are all based on 4.1.2. There should be a 4.2 build from FreeXperia at some point and a 4.3 build from some independent developers, but there is no ETA for either of these builds. This is not to say that the developers of existing custom roms haven’t tweaked wifi so it works better.
10. As I said, I’m certain it’s a software issue.
11. The camera’s auto mode is pretty poor in conditions which are less than optimum – you can take a nice photo if you mess with settings BUT in my opinion this is missing the point. If I want to mess with settings I’ll use a proper camera, I just want to take quick snaps with my phone in situations where I didn’t necessarily think I’d need to bring a camera. For the SP (and other Sony phones) the camera doesn’t support this type of spontaneous photography very well.
12. Haven’t heard of procapture, thanks for the tip
13. See my previous comments – the only builds available for the SP are 4.1.2 based.
14. Hope it’s the software – I’m no expert, but people talk about too much processing/compression.
15. I had a 2011 xperia with 8MP and the camera on the SP is not significantly better – I don’t think Sony believe that it’s a problem.
16. Unless the apps/mods/roms you install after root cause hardware damage, you can always just flash a stock rom – so warranty should be unaffected. Of course if you are unable to flash a stock rom because of hardware damage…
17. You do receive updates if you’re rooted. Historically if you updated OTA you kept root, via the PC meant you lost it.
18. The smart phone market is moving so fast that I doubt any phone out today will be able to play the most demanding games from 4 years time without any trouble. The latest iphone has 64 bit architecture and this will soon follow for android. Similarly, I imagine that graphics chips are upgraded once or twice a year – so you might be as many as 8 cycles behind what is considered top of the range. The SP is a midrange phone, with some flag ship properties.
19. There are still some touch issues in my opinion, though this is improving build to build.
20. Don’t know about the S3 – the XP screen is fine though, not mind blowing, but in no sense bad or embarrassing.
21. Fine for video calling, perfect in fact. OK for selfies if close up. Do not use for anything else – as mentioned it would only be an average FC for a 2011 device.
22. Not really you’ve been very thorough
That's pretty much it for the phone, however, I have more questions.
23. Don’t think the S3 is better, the S4 mini is better in my opinion ONLY if you can live with a smaller screen. If you can stretch to the ZR do it.
My last xperia didn’t have gorilla glass – I used screen protectors and after 18 months of use I sold it to a recycling company for the maximum stated value (so they regarded it's condition as perfect). Any phone with a large screen is more vulnerable to being broken than one with a small screen. Most days on the underground and on buses I see people with busted screens - usually S3s, S4s and iphones - but I guess this is because they are the most common phones.
24. The choice for me was this or the S4 mini – I prefer Sony phones though and the bigger screen was the deal breaker. You could wait for the new Nexus, maybe a month to go? This was my plan, but my network provider offered me an early upgrade to move to 4G and I couldn’t say no.
25. The phone is definitely worth it – I’m not mad on photography and am rooted, so can get around the storage issue. After that it has most of the really important flag ship stuff, the things that you need, rather than eye scrolling or the ability to take it swimming, and the user experience is great.

Thanks for the answers guys.
After this, I'm more unsure about SP.
Now, I'm considering ZR or ZL, as both are priced similar here.

DKT27 said:
Thanks for the answers guys.
After this, I'm more unsure about SP.
Now, I'm considering ZR or ZL, as both are priced similar here.
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Unsure too as well now lol.
Might have to look for alternatives to SP with better camera for same price.

King p1n said:
Unsure too as well now lol.
Might have to look for alternatives to SP with better camera for same price.
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If camera is a priority, then Xperia M has a good camera. However, you may not find any phone with such a powerful processor and graphics card, 720p screen and other features at this price.

I read all the questions wont be answering all, but I'll suggest you to go with XPERIA ZR (Don't go for ZR if you gona be using some mods or different ROM's as ZR is a low legacy device and many don't own it so there are no good devs for ZR) or ZL or either Nexus 4 also about rooting you can root any phone it doesn't voids warranty and also removing the scratch-proof sheet on ZR can be removed it doesn't voids warranty.

RuchRha said:
I read all the questions wont be answering all, but I'll suggest you to go with XPERIA ZR (Don't go for ZR if you gona be using some mods or different ROM's as ZR is a low legacy device and many don't own it so there are no good devs for ZR) or ZL or either Nexus 4 also about rooting you can root any phone it doesn't voids warranty and also removing the scratch-proof sheet on ZR can be removed it doesn't voids warranty.
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Thanks for the answer.
I might not use any mods or ROMs as of now.
ZR and ZL seem to be priced same here. So I'm leaning towards ZL.
As for Nexus 4, it's good but no microSD card support and ZL seems better.
Thanks again for the rooting issue. However, I read that rooting requires one to change ROMs or something? I'm very much a noob in this so no idea.
About the glass and the scatter proof sheet. One, I want to know whether the glass is actually tough enough to challenge Gorilla Glass or is even near it. I'm scared for the phone hitting the ground and the expensive screen breaking. As for the warranty, see this. The only reason to remove the sheet is, that it's cloth and scratch magnet, which can be fixed by by scratch guard I think.

DKT27 said:
Thanks for the answer.
I might not use any mods or ROMs as of now.
ZR and ZL seem to be priced same here. So I'm leaning towards ZL.
As for Nexus 4, it's good but no microSD card support and ZL seems better.
Thanks again for the rooting issue. However, I read that rooting requires one to change ROMs or something? I'm very much a noob in this so no idea.
About the glass and the scatter proof sheet. One, I want to know whether the glass is actually tough enough to challenge Gorilla Glass or is even near it. I'm scared for the phone hitting the ground and the expensive screen breaking. As for the warranty, see this. The only reason to remove the sheet is, that it's cloth and scratch magnet, which can be fixed by by scratch guard I think.
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You don't need any ROM's for rooting, there are many rooting toolkits by DooMLoRD which easily roots a device, and the shatter proof glass is pretty strong (I feel far better than gorilla), my phone has felt many time (XPERIA Z) and nothing happened except a few scratches on the body but nothing on screen or back and I also have removed the scratch proof sheet and I mostly do so with all my XPERIA's it does not voids warranty.

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If camera is a priority, then Xperia M has a good camera. However, you may not find any phone with such a powerful processor and graphics card, 720p screen and other features at this price.
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on a 5mp now on Galaxy Nexus and its not too great either and i see the Xperia M has a 5 MP also.
Hate the way Sony skimped on the front cam to only VGA, especially If I finally getting involved in snapchatting and what not it wont be great
I've heard people throw the 8mp camera and software in the same sentence, Im guessing its not the software that causing bad quality images?

[Q] Moving from HTC One to Z1 (Questions!)

Let me start by saying that I am an avid HTC fan. Been using all HTC flagship devices..but now I feel its time for a change. I love the One, especially the speakers and the feel of the device, but the camera is really bad. So now I was thinking of moving to the Z1...but before I do..I have couple of queries
1. Custom ROM: I ALWAYS use custom ROMS and I am not too impressed with the choices. Either way, since I have no control over which ROM version I am going to get, I was wondering if there are bootloader lock issues, or other things I should be concerned about? Do I really need to unlock boot loader before I install a custom ROM?
2. I read that the camera doesnt work if the bootloader is unlocked..is this still true? If yes, then how do you guys manage?
3. I read the speakers arent that great (and no comparison to the HTC one), but how is the headphone sound? I read that these devices use the same audio chipset and I know PureX audio (or something like that is great) is available. What is the general view?
4. Do I really need to get a case? (I HATE cases...just kills the beauty of the device!)
Appreciate your comments/remarks.

aidicula said:
Let me start by saying that I am an avid HTC fan. Been using all HTC flagship devices..but now I feel its time for a change. I love the One, especially the speakers and the feel of the device, but the camera is really bad. So now I was thinking of moving to the Z1...but before I do..I have couple of queries
1. Custom ROM: I ALWAYS use custom ROMS and I am not too impressed with the choices. Either way, since I have no control over which ROM version I am going to get, I was wondering if there are bootloader lock issues, or other things I should be concerned about? Do I really need to unlock boot loader before I install a custom ROM?
2. I read that the camera doesnt work if the bootloader is unlocked..is this still true? If yes, then how do you guys manage?
3. I read the speakers arent that great (and no comparison to the HTC one), but how is the headphone sound? I read that these devices use the same audio chipset and I know PureX audio (or something like that is great) is available. What is the general view?
4. Do I really need to get a case? (I HATE cases...just kills the beauty of the device!)
Appreciate your comments/remarks.
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hi i am also htc fan had htc one replaced it for z1 due to purple tint issue
1)at the moment unlocking bootloader causes camera to break and sony might solve this issue in future
2)at this moment happy with the stock and some roms which can be flashed with locked bootloader
3)as compared to htc one not that much great
4)it depends on u r use i found no need of case

I can't comment on any of the ROM questions as I haven't gone in to that yet, but for the others...
Headphone sound is excellent. I bluetooth mine to some Sony MDR1BT's and the quality is very good. Very negligible difference between BT and cable operation. I have a few sets of high end cans and the quality is right up there. Can't say what the cheap earbuds are like that you get with the phone as I haven't taken them out of the packaging!
With the case, I'm 100% with you on that one, I hate cases on phones. However, the anti shatter film that they put on the front and back scratches ridiculously easy. Easier than most screen protectors I've used (also not a big fan of those either). The glass is meant to be very durable, but the film on top is not. I'd recommend a tempered glass set, pretty sure you can get them for the front and back.

Camera will break if you try to unlock, rooting and installing Xperia roms however are fine
Also I am really mad about the camera quality...
You should also know that you won't be having a lot of choices in rom and mode department, if you come from HTC (like me) you will feel a giant hole in Z1 threads...
Speaker is not going to be pleasing in anyway but you should know that this is a waterproof phone, so shouldn't be having high expectations, and finally I don't use cases and this phone really doesn't need one so no worries there
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But for some reason I like the Z1 better than the One
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aidicula said:
Let me start by saying that I am an avid HTC fan. Been using all HTC flagship devices..but now I feel its time for a change. I love the One, especially the speakers and the feel of the device, but the camera is really bad. So now I was thinking of moving to the Z1...but before I do..I have couple of queries
1. Custom ROM: I ALWAYS use custom ROMS and I am not too impressed with the choices. Either way, since I have no control over which ROM version I am going to get, I was wondering if there are bootloader lock issues, or other things I should be concerned about? Do I really need to unlock boot loader before I install a custom ROM?
2. I read that the camera doesnt work if the bootloader is unlocked..is this still true? If yes, then how do you guys manage?
3. I read the speakers arent that great (and no comparison to the HTC one), but how is the headphone sound? I read that these devices use the same audio chipset and I know PureX audio (or something like that is great) is available. What is the general view?
4. Do I really need to get a case? (I HATE cases...just kills the beauty of the device!)
Appreciate your comments/remarks.
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Hi mate
1. We have, for now, just a few custom ROMs, based on CM (PAC) or based on stock which is better solution for now - because we still have camera problem when we unlock bootloader.
And, yes, if you want custom ROM based on CM or anything else except stock you have to unlock bootloader because you have to flash custom kernel and it's possible to flash kernels only when you unlock bootloader.
2. Yes, camera will broke if you unlock bootloader, for now.
But, as you could see, few guys claims that have informations that Sony is already working on it.
Also, what's important is to backup TA numbers before you unlock bootloader.
On custom ROM you can't use X-Reality and you'll lost any chance to get it back even when you go nack to stock - if you haven't backup TA.
You have great tutorials for that.
3. Speaker is good enough.
You have MODs and you don't have to unlock bootloader to flash that MOD.
But headphones that you get with your phone are great - sound is deep and the base is strong and clear.
If you are using professional headphones you'll get even better sound.
4 Absolutely agree with that statement.
Z1 is beautiful device and it would be shame to put "condom" over it.
I bought front and back screen protectors (follies) and just ordered rubber frame for it.
You can buy rubber or metal frame that looks awesome and protect device but your device isn't covered with case and it's perfectly visible.
I would definitely recommed Z1.
I had few Xperia devices (I still have them) and I can say Z1 is the best device I ever had.
Elegant, fast and beautiful.
And....as we are on 4.2.2 and are very, very satisfied, you can just imagine how happy we will be when we get Kitkat for it
Sent from my Z1

Also coming from the HTC One to the Z1 and this is my first Sony, it seemed like the logical choice and it's certainly the best phone for me at the moment anyway, it beats the competition in my eyes.
As for my reaction to the Z1 and it's performance, well i couldn't be happier, i'm not knocking the One, i think it's a fantastic phone and I would still recommend it to anyone.
I'm running a custom rom on my Z1 at the moment, Monx rom and it's superb, i've got CRT off animation and various tweaks by using xposed mod, i'm also running the google launcher from the Nexus 5 and all in all it's a great combination.
Audio, screen, camera, build quality, battery life, functionality and performance are all top notch, well worth the upgrade.
The bootloader isn't an issue as you can still flash custom rom's.

dladz said:
Also coming from the HTC One to the Z1 and this is my first Sony, it seemed like the logical choice and it's certainly the best phone for me at the moment anyway, it beats the competition in my eyes.
As for my reaction to the Z1 and it's performance, well i couldn't be happier, i'm not knocking the One, i think it's a fantastic phone and I would still recommend it to anyone.
I'm running a custom rom on my Z1 at the moment, Monx rom and it's superb, i've got CRT off animation and various tweaks by using xposed mod, i'm also running the google launcher from the Nexus 5 and all in all it's a great combination.
Audio, screen, camera, build quality, battery life, functionality and performance are all top notch, well worth the upgrade.
The bootloader isn't an issue as you can still flash custom rom's.
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I wasn't very happy with my xperia x10 because of the updates, so I decided to give sony one more try, I come from HTC One to Z1 (Bell C6906), all I can say is very disappointed, the phone is heavy and more bulkier for a 5" screen hard to operate with one hand, speaker is lousy even compared to my old S3, camera is okay but not what it seems to be 20mp, the whites on website is yellowish even with brightness to high compare to the htc with auto brightness (but I don't have the yellow tint on the device) viewing angles are bad I just tilt the phone 10 degress and the color is washed out, I have to look at the device straight on, I keep my htc one any day over the z1, waterproof is just another gimmick, the phone software/hardware is buggy, it reboots randomly and I was on my 2 DOA replacement, finally sold the Z1 I hope sony can learn from their mistakes and make a better device on their next flagship but for now im staying away from their device because all those problems

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I wasn't very happy with my xperia x10 because of the updates, so I decided to give sony one more try, I come from HTC One to Z1 (Bell C6906), all I can say is very disappointed, the phone is heavy and more bulkier for a 5" screen hard to operate with one hand, speaker is lousy even compared to my old S3, camera is okay but not what it seems to be 20mp, the whites on website is yellowish even with brightness to high compare to the htc with auto brightness (but I don't have the yellow tint on the device) viewing angles are bad I just tilt the phone 10 degress and the color is washed out, I have to look at the device straight on, I keep my htc one any day over the z1, waterproof is just another gimmick, the phone software/hardware is buggy, it reboots randomly and I was on my 2 DOA replacement, finally sold the Z1 I hope sony can learn from their mistakes and make a better device on their next flagship but for now im staying away from their device because all those problems
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The Z1 is a stellar phone, the only problem at the moment is development, however once the camera / bootlock issue is fixed i believe that will turn around, don't get me wrong i loved my HTC, but you really can't compare a last gen phone to a next gen phone and that's what these two are, regardless of how old they are, the 800 is the newest hardware available and if you want to compare it to another device then you should only compare it to another 800 (note 3 and G2) pitting it against the HTC One is a little like bringing a knife to a gun fight, it's going to lose.
As for the screen, I have to agree with you in terms of visibility, but then again i don't hold my phone on a slant when i use it so hardly anything to write home about.
As for the Camera, there is a manual mode so I suggest you look into using that properly before you judge it, simply using the automatic option is going to give you an 8MP picture with lots of features turned on to make it look as good as possible, hardly something a person with knowledge of a decent camera would do.
The bugs you mentioned are literally software issues which will be ironed out with further updates and as i said before once the camera / bootlock issue is sorted i have every confidence that they will be rectified.
As for the bulkiness, i actually like the size, i do have quite big hands so i guess it fits me, I did use the phone in the shop before i bought it so i knew it would work ok, i guess you should have done the same before commiting, bit of a rookie mistake in all fairness.
The speaker is a bit of a come down from the HTC One's boom sound speakers but in terms of loudness and with active equalizers on both, i think you'll find that the Z1's speaker isn't half bad and with them both playing infront of me you could hear both, the HTC didn't exactly drown out the sound of the Z1 so again I believe you should spend a little time tweaking your phone to get the most out of it.
The yellowish tint you describe I actually can't say that I have noticed it, but it's possible that your eyes are playing tricks on you as you've come from one screen to another entirely, check out an s3 compared to the HTC One and you'll see that the One appears to be washed out, but this is just a different screen, not worse or better, different people like different things.
Anyway, none of this matters because by all accounts you've sold your phone now, I just find it strange that you would go out and buy one and then find out all the things that you could have summarized in a shop ?
Either way, good luck with whatever phone you pick next, for me and a lot of others, the Z1 is the best of the bunch at the moment, so it's either Samsung's note 3 or the G2, and I do believe that both of those phones aren't without issues and definitely a pair of large phones if using it with one hand was an issue on the Z1.
PS: Lastly, the water proof casing for me is superb, I can use the phone in the rain (i live in the UK) for me it's a great feature and not a gimmick as you say, the last thing you need is something going wrong with your phone, only for the company to tell you it's water damaged even though you have never got the bugger wet before.
Just my two cents.

dladz said:
The Z1 is a stellar phone, the only problem at the moment is development, however once the camera / bootlock issue is fixed i believe that will turn around, don't get me wrong i loved my HTC, but you really can't compare a last gen phone to a next gen phone and that's what these two are, regardless of how old they are, the 800 is the newest hardware available and if you want to compare it to another device then you should only compare it to another 800 (note 3 and G2) pitting it against the HTC One is a little like bringing a knife to a gun fight, it's going to lose.
As for the screen, I have to agree with you in terms of visibility, but then again i don't hold my phone on a slant when i use it so hardly anything to write home about.
As for the Camera, there is a manual mode so I suggest you look into using that properly before you judge it, simply using the automatic option is going to give you an 8MP picture with lots of features turned on to make it look as good as possible, hardly something a person with knowledge of a decent camera would do.
The bugs you mentioned are literally software issues which will be ironed out with further updates and as i said before once the camera / bootlock issue is sorted i have every confidence that they will be rectified.
As for the bulkiness, i actually like the size, i do have quite big hands so i guess it fits me, I did use the phone in the shop before i bought it so i knew it would work ok, i guess you should have done the same before commiting, bit of a rookie mistake in all fairness.
The speaker is a bit of a come down from the HTC One's boom sound speakers but in terms of loudness and with active equalizers on both, i think you'll find that the Z1's speaker isn't half bad and with them both playing infront of me you could hear both, the HTC didn't exactly drown out the sound of the Z1 so again I believe you should spend a little time tweaking your phone to get the most out of it.
The yellowish tint you describe I actually can't say that I have noticed it, but it's possible that your eyes are playing tricks on you as you've come from one screen to another entirely, check out an s3 compared to the HTC One and you'll see that the One appears to be washed out, but this is just a different screen, not worse or better, different people like different things.
Anyway, none of this matters because by all accounts you've sold your phone now, I just find it strange that you would go out and buy one and then find out all the things that you could have summarized in a shop ?
Either way, good luck with whatever phone you pick next, for me and a lot of others, the Z1 is the best of the bunch at the moment, so it's either Samsung's note 3 or the G2, and I do believe that both of those phones aren't without issues and definitely a pair of large phones if using it with one hand was an issue on the Z1.
PS: Lastly, the water proof casing for me is superb, I can use the phone in the rain (i live in the UK) for me it's a great feature and not a gimmick as you say, the last thing you need is something going wrong with your phone, only for the company to tell you it's water damaged even though you have never got the bugger wet before.
Just my two cents.
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In real life everyday use you don't notice a huge difference between snapdragon 800 to 600 speed unless you are a benchmark freak, The HTC One doesn't washed out compared to the S3, you can notice the display on the HTC one a lot whiter and more sharper than the S3, I still have both devices maybe u are a defective One? I have tried the camera in 20mp manual mode play around w the ISO and EV setting I still think its not a 20mp camera phone more of a 13, i was able to test the g2 is felt nicely in a single hand use but is the power and volume key in the back is just not so good, I wish I could try the Z1 device here in Canada I went to many shops they don't even have a demo display if they did I would've tested it before I commited buy. As you can read in the forum not everyone z1 device is waterproof when its submerged in water and why a company dont cover water damage on their warranty, if a device is certified waterproof why not warranty it, I'm not saying Z1 is a bad device but the viewing angle is just deal breaker for me since my phone mostly on a table at work I don't always hold the device dead on

I'm personally using a One and bought my wife a Z1. The Z1 is pretty snappy but the screen viewing angles (while sharing video with someone) and sound is a disappointment compared to the One. The water proofing is top notch (tested thoroughly because of the 6 month accidental damage warranty). Anyone invested in the HTC Sense experience will face a few issues initially especially with migrating from the excellent contacts/ phone application in Sense phones. My wife is now using a purchased app to manage her contacts, ex-dialer or something. Z1's running stock rooted with Xposed.
And like others have already pointed out, ROM dev is pretty scarce on the Z1.

Try the 4.4 launcher and other apps on the z1, simply brilliant.
The OK Google voice activation is quality, works perfect an i've even got a scouse accent.

Cool Can U Give Me Link To Those Apps From Where You've Downloaded !

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Cool Can U Give Me Link To Those Apps From Where You've Downloaded !
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Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506595

Thanks Btw Another Question That Ok Google Thing (Whatever We Call) Can i Run This In My Another Cell ?

Should I buy this phone?

I'm coming from a Galaxy S3 running CM11. I don't use my phone for anything super crazy. I like to take pictures, I run/skate with it using the GPS, listen to music, browse the web, message, phone calls. I don't really watch video or movies much. It seems like this is the best phone for me, but I can't tell if all the hubbub about broken backs, cracks, camera issues, whatever, are real or just exaggerated. The only thing that makes me question is the issues with rooting and how it messes with some of the phone's functions. I love using TiBu and Xposed, but that's really all I use root for, and could probably live without them, if needed.
Anyone want to help an indecisive guy decide on his next phone?
Thanks!

slicetwo said:
I'm coming from a Galaxy S3 running CM11. I don't use my phone for anything super crazy. I like to take pictures, I run/skate with it using the GPS, listen to music, browse the web, message, phone calls. I don't really watch video or movies much. It seems like this is the best phone for me, but I can't tell if all the hubbub about broken backs, cracks, camera issues, whatever, are real or just exaggerated. The only thing that makes me question is the issues with rooting and how it messes with some of the phone's functions. I love using TiBu and Xposed, but that's really all I use root for, and could probably live without them, if needed.
Anyone want to help an indecisive guy decide on his next phone?
Thanks!
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I went from someone that roots every device on day 1 and flash nightlies to rooting only for Xposed Gravity Box and Titanium Backup on my Moto X, which then made me run stock software and Xposed/TB on my Nexus 7. After having this phone for just over a week I can say I don't really miss Xposed GB and I really do like Sony's UI. I do hope to have root someday for Titanium and possibly to use GSAM Battery app(or similar) to find any misbehaving(wakelock) apps if needed.
That being said I don't think I've been happier with a phone than the Z3 Compact, best battery life(by far), best camera(by far), perfect size imo and Sony added some useful and fun apps imo. I do have a TPU case and just installed a Glass Screen protector, I always use a case and love glass screen protectors so that gives me some added protection. I'm hoping some of the bigger case manufacturers start making some cases to offer more choices, but in reality I always end up with a good TPU case in the end. Magnetic charging is a big plus, couple that with Wifi file transfer if needed and you really never have to open the ports.
If you are buying from Sony US site you can get further discounts by being a student or I heard say your buying it for a student, as well as a $100 credit for opening/using a Sony Visa. I bought from Clove and imported to the US, I had a great transaction and wouldn't hesitate to order from them again in the future.

Awesome! Thanks for the advice. I take it you've had none of the weird problems people speak of?

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Awesome! Thanks for the advice. I take it you've had none of the weird problems people speak of?
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Please note that only the people with problems come complain on the forums, the majority that has no problems, is just waiting for root, etc.

slicetwo said:
I'm coming from a Galaxy S3 running CM11. I don't use my phone for anything super crazy. I like to take pictures, I run/skate with it using the GPS, listen to music, browse the web, message, phone calls. I don't really watch video or movies much. It seems like this is the best phone for me, but I can't tell if all the hubbub about broken backs, cracks, camera issues, whatever, are real or just exaggerated. The only thing that makes me question is the issues with rooting and how it messes with some of the phone's functions. I love using TiBu and Xposed, but that's really all I use root for, and could probably live without them, if needed.
Anyone want to help an indecisive guy decide on his next phone?
Thanks!
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I used to be big into rooting, and I'd always be flashing a new ROM and kernel at least once a week. I ordered my z3c as soon as Clove had it available for pre-order, and I've been very happy with it since then. Initially, my battery life wasn't exactly living up to all the hype (I was getting roughly 4 hours SOT with ~15 hours off the charger); per someone's suggestion in one of the threads on xda, I wiped my phone and reinstalled the firmware using the Sony PC Software. Since then, I've been getting 6+ hours SOT with over 2 days off the charger. Haven't had any issues with the camera (granted, the front camera isn't amazing), but for what you're going to be using it for, I'm sure you'll be fine. Ultimately, it's your decision - however, I say get it!

Question about bootloaders

Hey, I'm thinking about getting this phone, but could use some clarification. Could I in some way achieve unlocked bootloaders starting with the latest version? As in, if I were to buy the phone now, would I have any chance of being locked out of installing a custom recovery and rom? I'm coming from a galaxy s4 and am kind of paranoid because of how the bootloaders are impossible to unlock past a certain firmware.
Thanks in advance, sorry if it's a dumb question

Unlocking the bootloader is not very difficult, but for this device it comes with a high price: you will lose important camera functions, such as noise reduction. Rooting and installing custom recoveries is relatively easy. Hence several Sony roms have been customized since they can be run without unlocking the bootloader. An example is SLiMM. I don't think there is much development going on for non-stock based roms like cm for the Z3C.

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Unlocking the bootloader is not very difficult, but for this device it comes with a high price: you will lose important camera functions, such as noise reduction. Rooting and installing custom recoveries is relatively easy. Hence several Sony roms have been customized since they can be run without unlocking the bootloader. An example is SLiMM. I don't think there is much development going on for non-stock based roms like cm for the Z3C.
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Seems like a pretty solid phone then, I'll probably pick it up. Thanks for the clarification!

Well 'solid' is not the first description that comes to my mind, because actually the device is somewhat fragile. The back is made of glass, so it can easily crack (sometimes spontaneously). Also the front and back can come loose. Fortunately Sony service is generally good. So check your warranty.

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Well 'solid' is not the first description that comes to my mind, because actually the device is somewhat fragile. The back is made of glass, so it can easily crack (sometimes spontaneously). Also the front and back can come loose. Fortunately Sony service is generally good. So check your warranty.
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Thanks for the warning, I did a little research and saw that spontaneous cracking was a big issue, sometimes rendering the phone inoperable. Would you say that a decent case and screen protector would fix the fragility issue? If so which? And would you still recommend the phone?
Thanks in advance

I love the Z3C because it is the only small high end phone with lots of development. I protect it with a glass protector on the front and the back and a Compact Puro case.

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I love the Z3C because it is the only small high end phone with lots of development. I protect it with a glass protector on the front and the back and a Compact Puro case.
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That was my train of thought but all this news about breaking kind of freaked me out. Thanks a lot for the input, I miss the size of older sliders and windows phones so I'm definitely going for this one.