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Hello,
Im gonna buy Xperia T and due to that id like to ask few questions to its users:
1) Does it have any disadvantages you may let me know about? The disadvantages that might be noticable just after some time of usage?
2) Does it contain an earphones or a headset with microphone?
3) Is it able to automatically adjust display brightness depending on light (ie. darker inside building, lighter outside)?
4) What about the rubber layer on the back of the phone? Anyone noticed any problems with it? Does it peel?
5) If i root this phone, will i void the warranty? Will root give me the ability to remove useless for me applications?
Thanks in advance!
belliash said:
Hello,
Im gonna buy Xperia T and due to that id like to ask few questions to its users:
1) Does it have any disadvantages you may let me know about? The disadvantages that might be noticable just after some time of usage?
2) Does it contain an earphones or a headset with microphone?
3) Is it able to automatically adjust display brightness depending on light (ie. darker inside building, lighter outside)?
4) What about the rubber layer on the back of the phone? Anyone noticed any problems with it? Does it peel?
5) If i root this phone, will i void the warranty? Will root give me the ability to remove useless for me applications?
Thanks in advance!
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1- Notification led is very dim.
2- Yes.
3- Yes.
4- Some people have reported issues in that regard. I don't have a scratch on mine after almost five months, and I don't use any kind of case.
5- Rooting is not supposed to void the warranty. And being root you can obviously remove whatever app you want.
so, in your opinion, its worth buying?
belliash said:
Hello,
Im gonna buy Xperia T and due to that id like to ask few questions to its users:
1) Does it have any disadvantages you may let me know about? The disadvantages that might be noticable just after some time of usage?
2) Does it contain an earphones or a headset with microphone?
3) Is it able to automatically adjust display brightness depending on light (ie. darker inside building, lighter outside)?
4) What about the rubber layer on the back of the phone? Anyone noticed any problems with it? Does it peel?
5) If i root this phone, will i void the warranty? Will root give me the ability to remove useless for me applications?
Thanks in advance!
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buy Xperia T
One more question... How big is /data partition on stock firmware? This should be a place where you can install apps from market... Anyway it is on HTC devices, dunno what about xperias
belliash said:
so, in your opinion, its worth buying?
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Yes. I'm satisfied with it.
belliash said:
One more question... How big is /data partition on stock firmware? This should be a place where you can install apps from market... Anyway it is on HTC devices, dunno what about xperias
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2 GB I believe.
I'm gonna chime in and play a little devil's advocate, since I haven't been very satisfied with my XT.
1) Sound quality is pretty poor, despite the fact that most online reviewers say it's very good. It has a discernible hiss, which is even worse on CM. You also lose the only gimmick (bravia engine) that makes the screen not suck if you decide you want custom ROMs.
2) Yes. They're actually the best OEM headphones that I've ever had.
3) Yes. Every high-end android can do that.
4) Mine started peeling after two weeks of usage. I've gotten a gel case meanwhile. Get a white one if possible. White ones are glossy and don't have this issue.
5) Yes to the first question and also yes to the second one.
The internal partition is 2 gb like most phones.
Personal opinion: Get the Xperia T if you'd like proper future support from CM. If you don't want to complicate your life with ROMs, get something else, like the One X.
Unlocking your bootloader voids your warranty. Root itself does not (unless you are relying on unlocking your bootloader to root).
belliash said:
Hello,
Im gonna buy Xperia T and due to that id like to ask few questions to its users:
1) Does it have any disadvantages you may let me know about? The disadvantages that might be noticable just after some time of usage?
2) Does it contain an earphones or a headset with microphone?
3) Is it able to automatically adjust display brightness depending on light (ie. darker inside building, lighter outside)?
4) What about the rubber layer on the back of the phone? Anyone noticed any problems with it? Does it peel?
5) If i root this phone, will i void the warranty? Will root give me the ability to remove useless for me applications?
Thanks in advance!
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I have a TX, which is very similar to the T with only minimal design changes, so here's my take on it:
1) As the first guy said, dim notification led is also an issue with the TX. It's not unfathomable, but you'd wish it was brighter/stronger. Other than that, only the concave back is to be complained about a little bit, as it sometimes makes for a softer grip - but I'm saying that mostly based on taste, anyway.
2) Yes. Very quality earphones with microphone, as usual with Sony.
3) Certainly.
4) I've had mine for a little bit more than a month now, and the back rubber is like rock-solid so far - and that because I scratch it against my jeans a lot. No sign of peeling whatsoever yet.
5) As the answer above mine says, rooting only should not void your warranty - unlocking the bootloader will, and that's for almost every smartphone out there.
Hope it helps you make your choice, but if I were you, at this point, I'd wait and place my money on Xperia Z.
belliash said:
Hello,
Im gonna buy Xperia T and due to that id like to ask few questions to its users:
1) Does it have any disadvantages you may let me know about? The disadvantages that might be noticable just after some time of usage?
2) Does it contain an earphones or a headset with microphone?
3) Is it able to automatically adjust display brightness depending on light (ie. darker inside building, lighter outside)?
4) What about the rubber layer on the back of the phone? Anyone noticed any problems with it? Does it peel?
5) If i root this phone, will i void the warranty? Will root give me the ability to remove useless for me applications?
Thanks in advance!
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1) It does have slight disadvantages. The sound quality is poor. The internal speaker volume is lower than expected from a Sony device. Even the headphone volume cannot be cranked up enough. I always listen to it in maximum volume. My previous low end Galaxy Ace had much better sounds. The other VERY ANNOYING bug is the Walkman app bug. If you lock the screen while playing, the phone will not move onto the next track until you press the screen unlock button again. Very annoying, but this can be solved with a 3rd party player. Im disappointed that Sony has so many sound related problems.
2) Yes it does. These are pretty good ones. Not as good as my Sennheisers.
3) Yes I am very satisfied with the auto brightness feature.
4) The back peeling problem was only for a certain batch of TXs so you have nothing to worry about now, because as far as I know those phones were replaced if they were under warranty.
5) Yes root will void warranty, but you can always unroot it to get back the original warranty status. Rooting is the only way to remove unwanted apps.
A few other things, my Xperia T is very durable. I have splashed water on it, dropped it from chest height, (I' m 5'6) and there is not a single scratch. The camera is very impressive especially the autofocus.
if I were you I would wait and buy Sony Xperia Z..
Sony Xperia T now is a mid-range phone ! So its to expensive for a mid range phone.
R: To buy Xperia T or not?
belliash said:
Hello,
Im gonna buy Xperia T and due to that id like to ask few questions to its users:
1) Does it have any disadvantages you may let me know about? The disadvantages that might be noticable just after some time of usage?
2) Does it contain an earphones or a headset with microphone?
3) Is it able to automatically adjust display brightness depending on light (ie. darker inside building, lighter outside)?
4) What about the rubber layer on the back of the phone? Anyone noticed any problems with it? Does it peel?
5) If i root this phone, will i void the warranty? Will root give me the ability to remove useless for me applications?
Thanks in advance!
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1 - the notification led is way too small and the battery
2 - yes
3 - yes
4 - no scratches and no peeling, I like the feeling when you hold the phone in your hands
5 - No about the warranty and yes you can remove any apps you wish
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Geo2160 said:
I'm gonna chime in and play a little devil's advocate, since I haven't been very satisfied with my XT.
1) Sound quality is pretty poor, despite the fact that most online reviewers say it's very good. It has a discernible hiss, which is even worse on CM. You also lose the only gimmick (bravia engine) that makes the screen not suck if you decide you want custom ROMs.
2) Yes. They're actually the best OEM headphones that I've ever had.
3) Yes. Every high-end android can do that.
4) Mine started peeling after two weeks of usage. I've gotten a gel case meanwhile. Get a white one if possible. White ones are glossy and don't have this issue.
5) Yes to the first question and also yes to the second one.
The internal partition is 2 gb like most phones.
Personal opinion: Get the Xperia T if you'd like proper future support from CM. If you don't want to complicate your life with ROMs, get something else, like the One X.
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It's not true what you say about the bravia engine. The BE only works for photo's and video's. For the rest the screen is the same
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thedisturbedone said:
1) It does have slight disadvantages. The sound quality is poor. The internal speaker volume is lower than expected from a Sony device. Even the headphone volume cannot be cranked up enough. I always listen to it in maximum volume. My previous low end Galaxy Ace had much better sounds. The other VERY ANNOYING bug is the Walkman app bug. If you lock the screen while playing, the phone will not move onto the next track until you press the screen unlock button again. Very annoying, but this can be solved with a 3rd party player. Im disappointed that Sony has so many sound related problems.
2) Yes it does. These are pretty good ones. Not as good as my Sennheisers.
3) Yes I am very satisfied with the auto brightness feature.
4) The back peeling problem was only for a certain batch of TXs so you have nothing to worry about now, because as far as I know those phones were replaced if they were under warranty.
5) Yes root will void warranty, but you can always unroot it to get back the original warranty status. Rooting is the only way to remove unwanted apps.
A few other things, my Xperia T is very durable. I have splashed water on it, dropped it from chest height, (I' m 5'6) and there is not a single scratch. The camera is very impressive especially the autofocus.
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I don't have the walkman bug, works fine. Sound is quit loud to.
r-l said:
It's not true what you say about the bravia engine. The BE only works for photo's and video's. For the rest the screen is the same
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What I said still stands. The screen is mediocre at best, and you lose the only thing that makes it decent in certain situations.
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It's not true what you say about the bravia engine. The BE only works for photo's and video's. For the rest the screen is the same
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I don't have the walkman bug, works fine. Sound is quit loud to.
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Are you positive about the walkman bug? Because loads of other people have been complaining too? Which JB version are you using btw?
If you can get it at a good price then buy it.
I got it for £16 pm and love it, great looking phone and stands out from the crowd.
Every other phone looks like the bog standard boring design.
The screen is gorgeous and the phone feels good in hand considering its size.
I've had no issues with peeling, Sony said it was a faulty batch and is covered by warranty anyway.
The battery was great under ICS and is getting there under Jelly Bean.
The camera could be better and there is an issue with some SD cards ,
apart from that , it's excellent.
I got one more question:
Di you got feeling like there was a spring inside your phone? Eg. when you knock it side or when it is vibrating? How is your vibration?
anyone?
Yes it's normal, .....unless you hear it go boing
Let me start by saying that I am an avid HTC fan. Been using all HTC flagship devices..but now I feel its time for a change. I love the One, especially the speakers and the feel of the device, but the camera is really bad. So now I was thinking of moving to the Z1...but before I do..I have couple of queries
1. Custom ROM: I ALWAYS use custom ROMS and I am not too impressed with the choices. Either way, since I have no control over which ROM version I am going to get, I was wondering if there are bootloader lock issues, or other things I should be concerned about? Do I really need to unlock boot loader before I install a custom ROM?
2. I read that the camera doesnt work if the bootloader is unlocked..is this still true? If yes, then how do you guys manage?
3. I read the speakers arent that great (and no comparison to the HTC one), but how is the headphone sound? I read that these devices use the same audio chipset and I know PureX audio (or something like that is great) is available. What is the general view?
4. Do I really need to get a case? (I HATE cases...just kills the beauty of the device!)
Appreciate your comments/remarks.
aidicula said:
Let me start by saying that I am an avid HTC fan. Been using all HTC flagship devices..but now I feel its time for a change. I love the One, especially the speakers and the feel of the device, but the camera is really bad. So now I was thinking of moving to the Z1...but before I do..I have couple of queries
1. Custom ROM: I ALWAYS use custom ROMS and I am not too impressed with the choices. Either way, since I have no control over which ROM version I am going to get, I was wondering if there are bootloader lock issues, or other things I should be concerned about? Do I really need to unlock boot loader before I install a custom ROM?
2. I read that the camera doesnt work if the bootloader is unlocked..is this still true? If yes, then how do you guys manage?
3. I read the speakers arent that great (and no comparison to the HTC one), but how is the headphone sound? I read that these devices use the same audio chipset and I know PureX audio (or something like that is great) is available. What is the general view?
4. Do I really need to get a case? (I HATE cases...just kills the beauty of the device!)
Appreciate your comments/remarks.
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hi i am also htc fan had htc one replaced it for z1 due to purple tint issue
1)at the moment unlocking bootloader causes camera to break and sony might solve this issue in future
2)at this moment happy with the stock and some roms which can be flashed with locked bootloader
3)as compared to htc one not that much great
4)it depends on u r use i found no need of case
I can't comment on any of the ROM questions as I haven't gone in to that yet, but for the others...
Headphone sound is excellent. I bluetooth mine to some Sony MDR1BT's and the quality is very good. Very negligible difference between BT and cable operation. I have a few sets of high end cans and the quality is right up there. Can't say what the cheap earbuds are like that you get with the phone as I haven't taken them out of the packaging!
With the case, I'm 100% with you on that one, I hate cases on phones. However, the anti shatter film that they put on the front and back scratches ridiculously easy. Easier than most screen protectors I've used (also not a big fan of those either). The glass is meant to be very durable, but the film on top is not. I'd recommend a tempered glass set, pretty sure you can get them for the front and back.
Camera will break if you try to unlock, rooting and installing Xperia roms however are fine
Also I am really mad about the camera quality...
You should also know that you won't be having a lot of choices in rom and mode department, if you come from HTC (like me) you will feel a giant hole in Z1 threads...
Speaker is not going to be pleasing in anyway but you should know that this is a waterproof phone, so shouldn't be having high expectations, and finally I don't use cases and this phone really doesn't need one so no worries there
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But for some reason I like the Z1 better than the One
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aidicula said:
Let me start by saying that I am an avid HTC fan. Been using all HTC flagship devices..but now I feel its time for a change. I love the One, especially the speakers and the feel of the device, but the camera is really bad. So now I was thinking of moving to the Z1...but before I do..I have couple of queries
1. Custom ROM: I ALWAYS use custom ROMS and I am not too impressed with the choices. Either way, since I have no control over which ROM version I am going to get, I was wondering if there are bootloader lock issues, or other things I should be concerned about? Do I really need to unlock boot loader before I install a custom ROM?
2. I read that the camera doesnt work if the bootloader is unlocked..is this still true? If yes, then how do you guys manage?
3. I read the speakers arent that great (and no comparison to the HTC one), but how is the headphone sound? I read that these devices use the same audio chipset and I know PureX audio (or something like that is great) is available. What is the general view?
4. Do I really need to get a case? (I HATE cases...just kills the beauty of the device!)
Appreciate your comments/remarks.
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Hi mate
1. We have, for now, just a few custom ROMs, based on CM (PAC) or based on stock which is better solution for now - because we still have camera problem when we unlock bootloader.
And, yes, if you want custom ROM based on CM or anything else except stock you have to unlock bootloader because you have to flash custom kernel and it's possible to flash kernels only when you unlock bootloader.
2. Yes, camera will broke if you unlock bootloader, for now.
But, as you could see, few guys claims that have informations that Sony is already working on it.
Also, what's important is to backup TA numbers before you unlock bootloader.
On custom ROM you can't use X-Reality and you'll lost any chance to get it back even when you go nack to stock - if you haven't backup TA.
You have great tutorials for that.
3. Speaker is good enough.
You have MODs and you don't have to unlock bootloader to flash that MOD.
But headphones that you get with your phone are great - sound is deep and the base is strong and clear.
If you are using professional headphones you'll get even better sound.
4 Absolutely agree with that statement.
Z1 is beautiful device and it would be shame to put "condom" over it.
I bought front and back screen protectors (follies) and just ordered rubber frame for it.
You can buy rubber or metal frame that looks awesome and protect device but your device isn't covered with case and it's perfectly visible.
I would definitely recommed Z1.
I had few Xperia devices (I still have them) and I can say Z1 is the best device I ever had.
Elegant, fast and beautiful.
And....as we are on 4.2.2 and are very, very satisfied, you can just imagine how happy we will be when we get Kitkat for it
Sent from my Z1
Also coming from the HTC One to the Z1 and this is my first Sony, it seemed like the logical choice and it's certainly the best phone for me at the moment anyway, it beats the competition in my eyes.
As for my reaction to the Z1 and it's performance, well i couldn't be happier, i'm not knocking the One, i think it's a fantastic phone and I would still recommend it to anyone.
I'm running a custom rom on my Z1 at the moment, Monx rom and it's superb, i've got CRT off animation and various tweaks by using xposed mod, i'm also running the google launcher from the Nexus 5 and all in all it's a great combination.
Audio, screen, camera, build quality, battery life, functionality and performance are all top notch, well worth the upgrade.
The bootloader isn't an issue as you can still flash custom rom's.
dladz said:
Also coming from the HTC One to the Z1 and this is my first Sony, it seemed like the logical choice and it's certainly the best phone for me at the moment anyway, it beats the competition in my eyes.
As for my reaction to the Z1 and it's performance, well i couldn't be happier, i'm not knocking the One, i think it's a fantastic phone and I would still recommend it to anyone.
I'm running a custom rom on my Z1 at the moment, Monx rom and it's superb, i've got CRT off animation and various tweaks by using xposed mod, i'm also running the google launcher from the Nexus 5 and all in all it's a great combination.
Audio, screen, camera, build quality, battery life, functionality and performance are all top notch, well worth the upgrade.
The bootloader isn't an issue as you can still flash custom rom's.
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I wasn't very happy with my xperia x10 because of the updates, so I decided to give sony one more try, I come from HTC One to Z1 (Bell C6906), all I can say is very disappointed, the phone is heavy and more bulkier for a 5" screen hard to operate with one hand, speaker is lousy even compared to my old S3, camera is okay but not what it seems to be 20mp, the whites on website is yellowish even with brightness to high compare to the htc with auto brightness (but I don't have the yellow tint on the device) viewing angles are bad I just tilt the phone 10 degress and the color is washed out, I have to look at the device straight on, I keep my htc one any day over the z1, waterproof is just another gimmick, the phone software/hardware is buggy, it reboots randomly and I was on my 2 DOA replacement, finally sold the Z1 I hope sony can learn from their mistakes and make a better device on their next flagship but for now im staying away from their device because all those problems
dawen said:
I wasn't very happy with my xperia x10 because of the updates, so I decided to give sony one more try, I come from HTC One to Z1 (Bell C6906), all I can say is very disappointed, the phone is heavy and more bulkier for a 5" screen hard to operate with one hand, speaker is lousy even compared to my old S3, camera is okay but not what it seems to be 20mp, the whites on website is yellowish even with brightness to high compare to the htc with auto brightness (but I don't have the yellow tint on the device) viewing angles are bad I just tilt the phone 10 degress and the color is washed out, I have to look at the device straight on, I keep my htc one any day over the z1, waterproof is just another gimmick, the phone software/hardware is buggy, it reboots randomly and I was on my 2 DOA replacement, finally sold the Z1 I hope sony can learn from their mistakes and make a better device on their next flagship but for now im staying away from their device because all those problems
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The Z1 is a stellar phone, the only problem at the moment is development, however once the camera / bootlock issue is fixed i believe that will turn around, don't get me wrong i loved my HTC, but you really can't compare a last gen phone to a next gen phone and that's what these two are, regardless of how old they are, the 800 is the newest hardware available and if you want to compare it to another device then you should only compare it to another 800 (note 3 and G2) pitting it against the HTC One is a little like bringing a knife to a gun fight, it's going to lose.
As for the screen, I have to agree with you in terms of visibility, but then again i don't hold my phone on a slant when i use it so hardly anything to write home about.
As for the Camera, there is a manual mode so I suggest you look into using that properly before you judge it, simply using the automatic option is going to give you an 8MP picture with lots of features turned on to make it look as good as possible, hardly something a person with knowledge of a decent camera would do.
The bugs you mentioned are literally software issues which will be ironed out with further updates and as i said before once the camera / bootlock issue is sorted i have every confidence that they will be rectified.
As for the bulkiness, i actually like the size, i do have quite big hands so i guess it fits me, I did use the phone in the shop before i bought it so i knew it would work ok, i guess you should have done the same before commiting, bit of a rookie mistake in all fairness.
The speaker is a bit of a come down from the HTC One's boom sound speakers but in terms of loudness and with active equalizers on both, i think you'll find that the Z1's speaker isn't half bad and with them both playing infront of me you could hear both, the HTC didn't exactly drown out the sound of the Z1 so again I believe you should spend a little time tweaking your phone to get the most out of it.
The yellowish tint you describe I actually can't say that I have noticed it, but it's possible that your eyes are playing tricks on you as you've come from one screen to another entirely, check out an s3 compared to the HTC One and you'll see that the One appears to be washed out, but this is just a different screen, not worse or better, different people like different things.
Anyway, none of this matters because by all accounts you've sold your phone now, I just find it strange that you would go out and buy one and then find out all the things that you could have summarized in a shop ?
Either way, good luck with whatever phone you pick next, for me and a lot of others, the Z1 is the best of the bunch at the moment, so it's either Samsung's note 3 or the G2, and I do believe that both of those phones aren't without issues and definitely a pair of large phones if using it with one hand was an issue on the Z1.
PS: Lastly, the water proof casing for me is superb, I can use the phone in the rain (i live in the UK) for me it's a great feature and not a gimmick as you say, the last thing you need is something going wrong with your phone, only for the company to tell you it's water damaged even though you have never got the bugger wet before.
Just my two cents.
dladz said:
The Z1 is a stellar phone, the only problem at the moment is development, however once the camera / bootlock issue is fixed i believe that will turn around, don't get me wrong i loved my HTC, but you really can't compare a last gen phone to a next gen phone and that's what these two are, regardless of how old they are, the 800 is the newest hardware available and if you want to compare it to another device then you should only compare it to another 800 (note 3 and G2) pitting it against the HTC One is a little like bringing a knife to a gun fight, it's going to lose.
As for the screen, I have to agree with you in terms of visibility, but then again i don't hold my phone on a slant when i use it so hardly anything to write home about.
As for the Camera, there is a manual mode so I suggest you look into using that properly before you judge it, simply using the automatic option is going to give you an 8MP picture with lots of features turned on to make it look as good as possible, hardly something a person with knowledge of a decent camera would do.
The bugs you mentioned are literally software issues which will be ironed out with further updates and as i said before once the camera / bootlock issue is sorted i have every confidence that they will be rectified.
As for the bulkiness, i actually like the size, i do have quite big hands so i guess it fits me, I did use the phone in the shop before i bought it so i knew it would work ok, i guess you should have done the same before commiting, bit of a rookie mistake in all fairness.
The speaker is a bit of a come down from the HTC One's boom sound speakers but in terms of loudness and with active equalizers on both, i think you'll find that the Z1's speaker isn't half bad and with them both playing infront of me you could hear both, the HTC didn't exactly drown out the sound of the Z1 so again I believe you should spend a little time tweaking your phone to get the most out of it.
The yellowish tint you describe I actually can't say that I have noticed it, but it's possible that your eyes are playing tricks on you as you've come from one screen to another entirely, check out an s3 compared to the HTC One and you'll see that the One appears to be washed out, but this is just a different screen, not worse or better, different people like different things.
Anyway, none of this matters because by all accounts you've sold your phone now, I just find it strange that you would go out and buy one and then find out all the things that you could have summarized in a shop ?
Either way, good luck with whatever phone you pick next, for me and a lot of others, the Z1 is the best of the bunch at the moment, so it's either Samsung's note 3 or the G2, and I do believe that both of those phones aren't without issues and definitely a pair of large phones if using it with one hand was an issue on the Z1.
PS: Lastly, the water proof casing for me is superb, I can use the phone in the rain (i live in the UK) for me it's a great feature and not a gimmick as you say, the last thing you need is something going wrong with your phone, only for the company to tell you it's water damaged even though you have never got the bugger wet before.
Just my two cents.
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In real life everyday use you don't notice a huge difference between snapdragon 800 to 600 speed unless you are a benchmark freak, The HTC One doesn't washed out compared to the S3, you can notice the display on the HTC one a lot whiter and more sharper than the S3, I still have both devices maybe u are a defective One? I have tried the camera in 20mp manual mode play around w the ISO and EV setting I still think its not a 20mp camera phone more of a 13, i was able to test the g2 is felt nicely in a single hand use but is the power and volume key in the back is just not so good, I wish I could try the Z1 device here in Canada I went to many shops they don't even have a demo display if they did I would've tested it before I commited buy. As you can read in the forum not everyone z1 device is waterproof when its submerged in water and why a company dont cover water damage on their warranty, if a device is certified waterproof why not warranty it, I'm not saying Z1 is a bad device but the viewing angle is just deal breaker for me since my phone mostly on a table at work I don't always hold the device dead on
I'm personally using a One and bought my wife a Z1. The Z1 is pretty snappy but the screen viewing angles (while sharing video with someone) and sound is a disappointment compared to the One. The water proofing is top notch (tested thoroughly because of the 6 month accidental damage warranty). Anyone invested in the HTC Sense experience will face a few issues initially especially with migrating from the excellent contacts/ phone application in Sense phones. My wife is now using a purchased app to manage her contacts, ex-dialer or something. Z1's running stock rooted with Xposed.
And like others have already pointed out, ROM dev is pretty scarce on the Z1.
Try the 4.4 launcher and other apps on the z1, simply brilliant.
The OK Google voice activation is quality, works perfect an i've even got a scouse accent.
Cool Can U Give Me Link To Those Apps From Where You've Downloaded !
Zafar7777 said:
Cool Can U Give Me Link To Those Apps From Where You've Downloaded !
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Here you go
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2506595
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Hi, Just got me a shiny new xperia z3c. yay. Other than the fragility of the sandwich glass and possible camera being slightly sub par, my main concern is root. Coming from a htc one with viper installed, and using exposed and xprivacy I'm use to rooting. But with all the info flying about, I'm a little confused, even after searching through and reading posts.
I don't mind the stock sony rom (23.0.A.2.93, no updates to .105 found by updater as yet) on EE uk network, though Id like to remove some bloatware.
My main question is. Can I flash a stock rom and have root? has this been done? or is the bootloader/drm still the main issue. I need xprivacy running asap.
Thx all.
There is a root method posted by Doomlord in the Original Development sub forum but it does require an unlocked bootloader which results in the loss of DRM keys. If you don't mind losing the proprietary post processing algorithms then you can go ahead and unlock then root. Users have done this and installed Xposed plus modules.
Re: software version. I'm on build .105 and am on 3 UK, though I'm not sure if the provider has any influence on software updates. I guess it could do if your phone is locked to EE, I bought mine unlocked and put my 3 sim in.
wingsfortheirsmiles said:
There is a root method posted by Doomlord in the Original Development sub forum but it does require an unlocked bootloader which results in the loss of DRM keys. If you don't mind losing the proprietary post processing algorithms then you can go ahead and unlock then root. Users have done this and installed Xposed plus modules.
Re: software version. I'm on build .105 and am on 3 UK, though I'm not sure if the provider has any influence on software updates. I guess it could do if your phone is locked to EE, I bought mine unlocked and put my 3 sim in.
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Thanks for the reply. I may just wait a short while to see if the bootloader issue can be solved. I know it will, just not when. Though after reading through the process, the drm keys are saved, but I'm still a tad bit reluctant yet.
Oh, mine is a contract phone, so I assume it maybe locked to EE, hence no update on the firmware until they release one.
As I said, surprisingly I do like sony's android layer edit, tho some tweaks are required. I was use to a fair bit coming from venom roms, but not bad. I've read some bashing on how old the layout looks.
I've read a lot more about the fragility of the rear and front glass and manufacturers of such glass, has got me worried. I will need to buy a case, but will ruin the look of the phones nice design. Why cant they make a stronger phone..grrrr Waste of R&D time when you put a case on a phone.
Yes I'd be patient. Lots of users are asking when this will be available but we have to give the devs time to get their hands on the device and then to cook up the good stuff, be they other root exploits or custom ROMs. I prefer the AOSP look personally but Sony's skin isn't that bad and has good bits like the power saving modes and FM radio support.
I also share your concern over the device's hardiness, especially over how easy it is to scratch the back glass. At present I'm using a slim terrapin case: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...200_QL40&qid=1413234393&sr=8-1#ref=mp_s_a_1_1 with the matte front screen protector provided in the retail box. I'll use these until some 9H front and back glass protector sets come out as that's what I liked on my z1c.
wingsfortheirsmiles said:
Yes I'd be patient. Lots of users are asking when this will be available but we have to give the devs time to get their hands on the device and then to cook up the good stuff, be they other root exploits or custom ROMs. I prefer the AOSP look personally but Sony's skin isn't that bad and has good bits like the power saving modes and FM radio support.
I also share your concern over the device's hardiness, especially over how easy it is to scratch the back glass. At present I'm using a slim terrapin case: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B00...200_QL40&qid=1413234393&sr=8-1#ref=mp_s_a_1_1 with the matte front screen protector provided in the retail box. I'll use these until some 9H front and back glass protector sets come out as that's what I liked on my z1c.
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I also have the terrapin case & stock matte.. Holding up well so far :thumbup:
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To all z3 compact users out there, I wanna ask something before buying this phone.
First, how's the screen? Do you think sony really put an effort on those glasses? If I buy one I would really put a case on it and glass protectors to make it safer but glass is glass. It can shatter with one fall and I know this phone is really slippery.
Second, I know the camera is fantastic in good lightings, however my concern is in the front camera. I've been searching through the internet for front camera samples but I kept on seeing the rear camera samples. I've seen front camera from iphones and it is fantastic but I'm not a fan of iOS and I really dont have the bucks for those iphones. Can you guys please take a shot from the front camera? From good lightings to bad ones and add some comments for the front camera if you like.
Third, how you guys can manage the 16gb internal? Because I've heard that Kitkat doesnt allow you to write in your SD card. And I know there's a root to fix that but I've also heard that rooting can kill the camera quality. I just wish google fixed this in lollipop because they are slowly becoming apple. I am planning to put a lot of games in this powerhouse phone.
This is my first high-end smartphone so I'm really curious of this issues. Im coming from a SGY so I know a bit of rooting but I dont know those bootloader and DRM keys stuffs.
You can help a lot of people who also have a lot of questions regarding this factors. Those will help us a lot in deciding.
1. The nylon bumper corners will really help to improve durability and shocks from corner drops. Xperia screens in general have a good track record on toughness, notwithstanding the reports from some users of spontaneous cracking without drops (faulty units) and scratches. As you're putting a case on it anyway, slippiness shouldn't be an issue.
2. Like the back camera, it's fine in good lighting but quality drops off quite a bit in low light, and of course there's no forward flash. This is especially bad when using Face In mode for some reason.
3. You won't be putting a lot of large games on this device. Yes, it sucks and Sony should have moved on from 16GB by now.
1. The phone is not that slippery, it has the advantage, that you can wash it with water. It was feeling little bit uncomfortable in my hands after first few days, however I got used to the phone and now one handed operation is not a problem.
2. Every product has its faulty units. I think, this phone suffers from loud complains of several users. You should check your retailer, support or whatever you'll be getting your phone from, for this kind of problem, if it can be handled as warranty case.
3. I keep my music / pictures / videos od SD card, games I play are mostly games for PSX emulator (tekken3 e.g.), and I don't have currently any modern huge games installed. You don't need really root, and if you do, this device might be not the one you pick, because there are better ones in this department.
overall it's a nice phone to play around with, I shot like 1000 pictures (not even kidding), in 8 days, because it's camera is fast and snappy and has many features to explore.
ghtop said:
1. The nylon bumper corners will really help to improve durability and shocks from corner drops. Xperia screens in general have a good track record on toughness, notwithstanding the reports from some users of spontaneous cracking without drops (faulty units) and scratches. As you're putting a case on it anyway, slippiness shouldn't be an issue.
2. Like the back camera, it's fine in good lighting but quality drops off quite a bit in low light, and of course there's no forward flash. This is especially bad when using Face In mode for some reason.
3. You won't be putting a lot of large games on this device. Yes, it sucks and Sony should have moved on from 16GB by now.
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Oh yes, I forget about the nylons. Is it easily scratch by anything? That's the only one I hate in z3c if comparing the z3c and z1c. But reviews said that its a good thing that sony put that thing on the phone.
Is the shots from the front cam noisy?
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1. The phone is not that slippery, it has the advantage, that you can wash it with water. It was feeling little bit uncomfortable in my hands after first few days, however I got used to the phone and now one handed operation is not a problem.
2. Every product has its faulty units. I think, this phone suffers from loud complains of several users. You should check your retailer, support or whatever you'll be getting your phone from, for this kind of problem, if it can be handled as warranty case.
3. I keep my music / pictures / videos od SD card, games I play are mostly games for PSX emulator (tekken3 e.g.), and I don't have currently any modern huge games installed. You don't need really root, and if you do, this device might be not the one you pick, because there are better ones in this department.
overall it's a nice phone to play around with, I shot like 1000 pictures (not even kidding), in 8 days, because it's camera is fast and snappy and has many features to explore.
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About the storage sir, your emulator is in the internal and the games are in the sd card? Is it possible? Thanks. :good:
That is correct, I keep the saved games and everything on internal storage and game images on the external. The application (FPSe) scans the whole /storage folder on startup, where both, internal and external memory are mounted.
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That is correct, I keep the saved games and everything on internal storage and game images on the external. The application (FPSe) scans the whole /storage folder on startup, where both, internal and external memory are mounted.
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What about the nylon sides? Is it scratch magnet?
No. The back side gets scratched too easy however even it's glass. THe sides are fine and giving the phone a comfortable grip.
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No. The back side gets scratched too easy however even it's glass. THe sides are fine and giving the phone a comfortable grip.
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They sides are also very nice to the touch, it feels MUCH more pleasant than metal.
I'm curious about 1 point:
He mentions root causing loss of camera quality. I thought it was the bootloader that caused this? I require root but I do not require an unlocked bootloader, so confirmation on this would be great.
Zurginator said:
I'm curious about 1 point:
He mentions root causing loss of camera quality. I thought it was the bootloader that caused this? I require root but I do not require an unlocked bootloader, so confirmation on this would be great.
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Actually root is directly propotional to unlock bootloader
U cant root without unlocking bootloader till now...there is no other simple way to root xperia z3c...and unlocking boorloader loses drm keys which result in lose of camera quality as well as future updates..sony has done this in kitkat....kind of rediculous coz I also want root like everbody else in this community...most of the functions and apps are not delicious without rooting android device
Thanks everyone for replying. I'm gonna buy this phone. I hope mine's without issues. :good:
ffaaiissaall said:
Actually root is directly propotional to unlock bootloader
U cant root without unlocking bootloader till now...there is no other simple way to root xperia z3c...and unlocking boorloader loses drm keys which result in lose of camera quality as well as future updates..sony has done this in kitkat....kind of rediculous coz I also want root like everbody else in this community...most of the functions and apps are not delicious without rooting android device
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So you can root without unlocking the bootloader but not now? Thats a good news!
So there aren't any exploits at the moment? Anyone looking into it? Development forums are a bit empty.
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Thanks everyone for replying. I'm gonna buy this phone. I hope mine's without issues. :good:
So you can root without unlocking the bootloader but not now? Thats a good news!
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Yes, in theory you should be able to root it without unlocking the bootloader and screwing all that other stuff up. Unfortunately Nobody's figured out how yet though.
My wife is gonna beat me down but I'm sick of this Droid turbo. I'm aware the 5 will be out within the next few months or so and will wait to get a 5t when that comes avail.
For this new phone anything I should do to prep?
How is the durability?
Picked up a default case from one plus. Should that be fine? Or should I consider an otterbox.
Looking forward to loading a rom on it.
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You better buy a helmet, and strap yourself in, because this phone is gonna blow you away!
No, seriously, I wouldn't say there is anything special you need to do, to prepare. Since you stated you are going to put a custom ROM on the phone, do the usual due diligence and read the general process on unlocking the bootloader, flash TWRP, etc. (plus you probably want to read up on dm-verity and understand what it is). But most of that is not too different from modding other Android devices - and you may in fact find it's even easier with the 3T (as Oneplus seems to be very friendly to the mod community).
Know how to flash the stock update files (return to stock), etc. I always read for at least an hour or 2 when getting a new phone. To me, that is the basic required research. And heck, it's fun to read about your new toy.
Other than that, you already bought a case, and the phone usually comes with a screen protector (although reports vary on whether it comes with a plastic or tempered glass protector). But you may want to research if you want a particular screen protector.
Other than that, the phone will arrive, just throw in your SIM, and you should be good to go. Well, on that note if you are using a smaller carrier (or buying version not specific to your region, etc) read up on whether you will need to manually input the APN.
You may even be pleasantly surprised at the stock ROM. It's amazing clean, to the point that some folks are calling the phone the spiritual successor to the Nexus line (since the Pixel basically priced itself out of any such comparison).
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How is the durability?
Picked up a default case from one plus. Should that be fine? Or should I consider an otterbox.
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Well, I suppose that depends on how rough you are with your phone, and what level of protection you prefer. I'm take reasonably good care of my phones. I don't baby them, but I don't abuse them either. Keep it in my pocket, with the official bamboo case, and it gives me sufficient protection. But the default cases are thin, and really more for just preventing scratches; and don't give any protection from impacts, drops, etc.. If you want impact protection, go for something else.
I can only speak to the durability after about 3 months, as that is how long I've had mine. With the official bamboo base, and the plastic screen protector it came with, the phone itself still looks virtually as good as new.
redpoint73 said:
You better buy a helmet, and strap yourself in, because this phone is gonna blow you away!
No, seriously, I wouldn't say there is anything special you need to do, to prepare. Since you stated you are going to put a custom ROM on the phone, do the usual due diligence and read the general process on unlocking the bootloader, flash TWRP, etc. (plus you probably want to read up on dm-verity and understand what it is). But most of that is not too different from modding other Android devices - and you may in fact find it's even easier with the 3T (as Oneplus seems to be very friendly to the mod community).
Know how to flash the stock update files (return to stock), etc. I always read for at least an hour or 2 when getting a new phone. To me, that is the basic required research. And heck, it's fun to read about your new toy.
Other than that, you already bought a case, and the phone usually comes with a screen protector (although reports vary on whether it comes with a plastic or tempered glass protector). But you may want to research if you want a particular screen protector.
Other than that, the phone will arrive, just throw in your SIM, and you should be good to go. Well, on that note if you are using a smaller carrier (or buying version not specific to your region, etc) read up on whether you will need to manually input the APN.
You may even be pleasantly surprised at the stock ROM. It's amazing clean, to the point that some folks are calling the phone the spiritual successor to the Nexus line (since the Pixel basically priced itself out of any such comparison).
Well, I suppose that depends on how rough you are with your phone, and what level of protection you prefer. I'm take reasonably good care of my phones. I don't baby them, but I don't abuse them either. Keep it in my pocket, with the official bamboo case, and it gives me sufficient protection. But the default cases are thin, and really more for just preventing scratches; and don't give any protection from impacts, drops, etc.. If you want impact protection, go for something else.
I can only speak to the durability after about 3 months, as that is how long I've had mine. With the official bamboo base, and the plastic screen protector it came with, the phone itself still looks virtually as good as new.
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Thank you for the reply
Have been reading up about it. Pretty much researched between the pixel and s8 and the oneplus. Couldn't pass up the price over the hardware. Figured I would hand it off to the wife when the 5t comes on as long as my experience is good with the 3.
I did read their was support issues with the 2 series after the 3 came out. Hopefully oneplus continues support somewhat when the 5 comes out. I do understand that they want to keep costs down and would want people to move to the newer hardware though.
I am pretty good at Maintaining phones but in the second year of owning my turbo, I literally dropped it about one and half feet and the unbreakable screen broke. ? first ever time dropping it too!
You did give me some great ideas for reading. I read up on the unbrick post and have downloaded the latest stock firm from oneplus. I've never dealt with dmverity before, so definitely checking that out. Ive noticed Magick has that option but never checked that box though.
For unlocking I would think going into bootloader (fastboot), could simply just run the unlock command right?
Anyways, thanks again!
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I did read their was support issues with the 2 series after the 3 came out. Hopefully oneplus continues support somewhat when the 5 comes out.
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That is what we all hope. History hasn't been kind to Oneplus on this point. But it's practically a startup company. So who knows how this may change going forward.
Worst case, the dev community will keep this device alive for years to come, through custom ROMs. It's currently the most active device on XDA, so I feel good on this point.
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For unlocking I would think going into bootloader (fastboot), could simply just run the unlock command right?
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That is correct. The phone will be wiped when you unlock, but that is pretty typical, so probably not news to you.
There is also a slightly annoying warning screen that will come up every time you boot the phone, saying the bootloader is unlocked. It comes up for 5 seconds, or you can press the power button to bypass it. No way to be completely rid of this warning screen, without relocking the bootloader (which you should not do with TWRP, root, etc. or you will soft brick).
Short story, the bootloader warning screen is something you live with, if you want to run with a modded phone (TWRP, root, custom ROM, etc.).
Everything on the 3T in my eyes is 10/10
OOS is my favourite Stock Os I have came across, yes pixel owners have pure stock and on the dot security updates but OOS offers the same experience with some extra customisation and flair.
Screen is great for the size, welcome to AMOLED. Yes it is a pentile display but it has no impact on daily use or image quality unless you come from a qHD. If you find the colour to punchy turn on sRGB.
Audio is pretty dam good through headphones even from the bottom speaker I was surprised that it had some depth. Pocketnow on YouTube has a great review on audio performance.
Performance well it is now the second fastest Chip but it will fly with everything but I will say try Blu-spark kernel and be blown away, 6GB of ram gives peace of mind if you have every app open and chrome tab insane that nothing with redraw upon opening.
Camera performance is where I would say it loses a point but not the actual sensor but more of the post processing as any still shot will look gorgeous, but it struggles with movement so if you like to take photos of kids or animals it will be luck of the draw. My tip is hold the shutter and take a chain of pictures with auto HDR disabled.
Charging is blazing fast I no longer charge overnight by the time I get up and ready I have plenty to go a day and more.
I was first very dubious of this phone when I ordered it as I came from Galaxy S3, Xperia Z2, Z3 and then Z3+ which destroyed my Sony loyalty. When I opened the great looking box and picked up my 3T I was like WOW and will stay with this brand till the day comes they piss me off. Some excellent craftsmanship that makes you want to keep it naked I know some OP2 owners got upset at the short support but I have always been into flashing and tweaking and they are not short of some great official ROMs. So that is my take a bit much but worth giving it a good shout and please stay away from oneplus's official forum as it is full of s***. :good:
the phone is great, well built, good battery, fantastic signal strength, I have not had any camera issues it does what I expect of it. the menu is a little different to stock so finding some settings is a learning process.
What I don't like is the alert slider with no way to turn it off or disable it also the customer support is unfortunately still terrible but community support is great.