Hi all I had unlocked my bootloader and root it and instakl cm10.2.1 after that I hate it my stock rom was the best so I relockef my bootloader and restore the stock but Bravia not working in album just in videos so what is the solution now and my friend have one with the same that I have the same customization can I backup the ta from his phone and put them on mine
Please help
Please all help me
You can't do anything if you didn't backup your TA partition. Your DRM keys are gone forever.
Do not restore anyone else's TA partition to your device. You will irreversibly and permanently hard brick it.
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So this is the end
And why I can't
Yes.
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kingvortex said:
Yes.
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Please dont say it
Even if my friends phone have the same Rom and same customization and from the same reseller
Don't do it unless you want to throw your phone in the trash. You will 100% brick it. I'm not just making this up.
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I'm sorry but how many times can I say this?
You absolutely, 100% cannot fix it.
The DRM keys that allow Bravia engine to work are permanently erased and you didn't make a backup. If you restore them from another device, you will destroy your phone.
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Hhhh sorry but im so disapointed I dropped my Samsung for sonys phone now back to Samsung you do everything with Samsung phone and when you use Odin restore stock rom every thing back like there is nothing happend just use triangle away
I sware in crying now oh common now the is no need for Sony stock rom going to cm11
The last questiom if they update our to android L do they will back ???
I doubt it.
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I doubt it.
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So there is a chance right cuts you doubt right?
NiceIceDice96 said:
The last questiom if they update our to android L do they will back ???
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They aren't going to get back after you haven't made any TA backup. You'll not be able to use „Sony PC Companion“ as well, as from your phone is with unlocked bootloader. Even if you have relocked it, it hasn't recovered your DRM keys, becouse they are being stored in your UNIQUE TA Backup.
Why can't you flash any other phone TA?
Becouse every phone has unique and different baseband, DRM keys and other keys which are checking when phone's booting up. If phone fails signatures checkpoint, it stops and doesn't start anymore. That's mean, then your phone is completely bricked and you are permanently screwed all things up.
What's differend between simple brick and DRM/TA brick?
In some cases, you CAN give another "live" to your phone, but in TA partition brick-up, - you can't unbrick it anyway anymore. It's just impossible and permanently. Becouse phone fails to check signatures and other stuff. As much as I know, you will be not able to use flashtool, either fastboot functions, becouse your phone won't go through the black screens, in conclusion - it just wont start anymore.
I think I've explained everything understandable.
Sorry if I made some mistakes (in language, either in some my explaination).
If i'm wrong, please correct me.
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So there is a chance right cuts you doubt right?
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OK, then I should have said no. The DRM keys will never come back. Ever. They might decide to let Bravia Engine work without them though, but who knows.
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kingvortex said:
OK, then I should have said no. The DRM keys will never come back. Ever. They might decide to let Bravia Engine work without them though, but who knows.
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Please but even if I send it to the factory to fix it
NiceIceDice96 said:
Please please please forgive me bur even if I send it to the factory to fix it
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They won't fix it, becouse you void warranty by unlocking your bootloader and even with relocking will not fix this issue, becouse at first what they will gonna do is check DRM keys, - is them in their right places. But don't worry, with unlocked bootloader you can use X-Reality instead, just browse for mods.
Seriously, if you did a modicum of research on the forums before unlocking your bootloader, you would have realised that the first thing to do after rooting is take a backup of your TA partition.
Had you done so, you would be able to restore your device to its pristine, original state any time with just a few mouse clicks.
You didn't, and are now paying the consequences.
It's no use cursing Sony, and saying Samsung is the be all and end all when it comes to flashing and returning to stock because that is untrue. In fact Samsung is the WORST in that regard, because as soon as you flash anything, you will trip the Knox "warranty void" e-fuse, which permanently DESTROYS a part of your hardware, and is irreversible. You can't even flash older firmware after that.
Give me Sony any day.
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Seriously, if you did a modicum of research on the forums before unlocking your bootloader, you would have realised that the first thing to do after rooting is take a backup of your TA partition.
Had you done so, you would be able to restore your device to its pristine, original state any time with just a few mouse clicks.
You didn't, and are now paying the consequences.
It's no use cursing Sony, and saying Samsung is the be all and end all when it comes to flashing and returning to stock because that is untrue. In fact Samsung is the WORST in that regard, because as soon as you flash anything, you will trip the Knox "warranty void" e-fuse, which permanently DESTROYS a part of your hardware, and is irreversible. You can't even flash older firmware after that.
Give me Sony any day.
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Oh didn't knew Samsung is bad that much...
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androidfreak70 said:
Oh didn't knew Samsung is bad that much...
TapaTalked from my Xperia™ Z (C660²) running Dirty Unicorns ROM!
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Yep - pure evil
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1. until warranty
what is my phone lose?
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You loose nothing and gain freedom
On a serious note, you void your warranty, sort of. Means if something bad happened to your phone and the root cause of the failure is found to be due to software, it's not covered by warranty.
Btw, you will lose bravia engine as well but I think iirc there's a way to regain it, somebody posted that awhile back.
Root can give you more already, try root first.
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I've got one of these on order and was reading about the DRM keys needed for Bravia engine and the camera to work. Can I restore those keys with the TA backup program and still keep the bootloader unlocked? Really would put a damper on the flashing fun.
mas5acre said:
I've got one of these on order and was reading about the DRM keys needed for Bravia engine and the camera to work. Can I restore those keys with the TA backup program and still keep the bootloader unlocked? Really would put a damper on the flashing fun.
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If you restore TA back up, it automatically relocks the phone.
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If you restore TA back up, it automatically relocks the phone.
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So theres no way to flash just the keys huh....That kinda kills the modding scene, if someone doesn't find/create a work around. Losing the Bravia engine kinda sucks but that only works with Sony's video player, but losing the camera...that sucks. Sure there are other camera apps but I doubt they would have the software implementation of steady shot.
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So theres no way to flash just the keys huh....That kinda kills the modding scene, if someone doesn't find/create a work around.
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Well, if you're going to install custom rom, you'll have to forgo all the software-emulated Sony-specific features, like the BE engine, Bionz, etc.
Oh, btw, when you relock the phone, you gotta have the stock rom installed, other wise it's going to hardbrick your phone.
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Well, if you're going to install custom rom, you'll have to forgo all the software-emulated Sony-specific features, like the BE engine, Bionz, etc.
Oh, btw, when you relock the phone, you gotta have the stock rom installed, other wise it's going to hardbrick your phone.
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I'll test some roms eventally....I just hate proprietary software on a mostly open platform like android. If I screw it up and don't have the original rom installed and it's hardbricked, can I still recover with a ta backup?
I thought ta both relocked the phone and installed the original rom.
As for the Bionz engine, I've read some bad things about photos taken with the z1 having grain. Maybe losing it isn't such a bad thing.
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I'll test some roms eventally....I just hate proprietary software on a mostly open platform like android. If I screw it up and don't have the original rom installed and it's hardbricked, can I still recover with a ta backup?
I thought ta both relocked the phone and installed the original rom.
As for the Bionz engine, I've read some bad things about photos taken with the z1 having grain. Maybe losing it isn't such a bad thing.
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TA is just a partition, so you need to flash stock ROM before restoring.
Yeah, me too. I've been using CM for like 2 years, so I don't know what it's going to be like using stock roms/kernels. But I'm pretty sure I'll hate it, cus there's nothing I hate more than being stuck with old android versions. I'm already dreading when my Z1 arrives, it will be running 4.2.2. Such a downgrade from CM10.2.
I backed up TA！
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Well, if you're going to install custom rom, you'll have to forgo all the software-emulated Sony-specific features, like the BE engine, Bionz, etc.
Oh, btw, when you relock the phone, you gotta have the stock rom installed, other wise it's going to hardbrick your phone.
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I don't have the Xperia Z1 in hand to confirm, but if the software is built anything like the Xperia Z then you most certainly won't brick your device by flashing locked TA while on a custom kernel. At worst you might stop it from booting (wrong signature on kernel), but all you need to do then is stick it in flash mode and install a signed kernel image using FlashTool or somthing. Worst case, stick it in fastboot mode and unlock again.
Looking forward to cyanogen 10.2 on Xperia z1!
i did something very stupid.
i was gonna go back to factory settings.
to do that, i boot into custom recovery ( i forget the name but it has a purple background )
i was gonna click on wipe factory settings but accidently click on wipe to install new custom rom. and i resetarted my phone and now it wont boot.
when i put it on charge, it starts booting without i press the power button and it resets itself after sony logo comes up, and it is doing that until i unplug the charge cable.
when i plug it on computer, nothing happens even i push the power button..,
i cant enter fastboot
i cant enter custom recovery
i simply cant do anything..
anybody has any idea about waht to do ?
thx
anyone?
edit: nevermind. problem solved.. by throwing it on the wall..
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anyone?
edit: nevermind. problem solved.. by throwing it on the wall..
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which custom ROM? Is your booloader locked or unlocked?
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which custom ROM? Is your booloader locked or unlocked?
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was unlocked. but not really important anymore.. i was so angry that i just throw it on the wall..
i know i shold have waited a bit more but could not help it.. its dead now. thx anyway..
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Wow. You probably could have fixed it in about 5 minutes by flashing a stock rom with Flashtool.
Oh well. Make sure you buy a different device to replace it. This one is obviously too much trouble for you.
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Wow. You probably could have fixed it in about 5 minutes by flashing a stock rom with Flashtool.
Oh well. Make sure you buy a different device to replace it. This one is obviously too much trouble for you.
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i tried it. it did not work.. it was reseting itself after flashing the stock rom too.
I take it you did a full wipe when flashing?
In any case, you probably did yourself a favour.
If you're the type of person to smash an expensive piece of electronics beyond repair when you're having problems with it, perhaps you shouldn't be flashing mods to your devices. Use this knowledge in future.
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I take it you did a full wipe when flashing?
In any case, you probably did yourself a favour.
If you're the type of person to smash an expensive piece of electronics beyond repair when you're having problems with it, perhaps you shouldn't be flashing mods to your devices. Use this knowledge in future.
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well. u r right.. what can i say. it just happened in a matter of time.. i regret it but cant bring it back. and im very very sorry for that i've done.
There was really no need. If people read the forum they'd see its almost impossible to kill your phone with any option in recovery.
Accidently wiping system is like swapping out the hard drive in your PC. Of course it won't boot, but with the right software and 5 minutes you can get it installed again.
All you needed to do was get it into flashmode (nothing shows on screen) by holding volume down and plugging in usb, then flash anything you want using flash tool.
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I have been reading alot in this forum and i get the feeling its about 50/50 that you will break the Z1, Obviously it's not 50/50. But i get that feeling. I have been rooting and doing stuff on Samsung phones and i never ever bricked any phone. But with this phone it feels like dark territory.
Can someone enlighten me what people are doing wrong that bricks the phone so easily?
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I have been reading alot in this forum and i get the feeling its about 50/50 that you will break the Z1, Obviously it's not 50/50. But i get that feeling. I have been rooting and doing stuff on Samsung phones and i never ever bricked any phone. But with this phone it feels like dark territory.
Can someone enlighten me what people are doing wrong that bricks the phone so easily?
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Flash wrong kernel
Restore TA-partition from some other device
schickel said:
Flash wrong kernel
Restore TA-partition from some other device
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Flashing wrong kernel only softbricks your phone right?
And restoring another TA-Partition hardbricks?
Hard brick:
- Flash other phones TA
- Flash other phones bootloader
All other things shouldn't cause a hard brick unless you really screw it
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Hard brick:
- Flash other phones TA
- Flash other phones bootloader
All other things shouldn't cause a hard brick unless you really screw it
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So as long as i double check everything and have common sense it should be alright at all times?
And how do i check exactly what model i have? I have seen a few models Z1F Z1, 6903, 6907.
Its all Rookie mistakes.
as long as you know what your are doing and not rushing, your phone should never brick.
Plus most of the bricks you hear about happened because people were installing Stock rom. if you are interested in AOSP roms then you dont have to worry.
is only happened when people used the flashtool to reinstall the kernel and baseband.
Back up the TA and Use flashtool carefully. thats all.
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Its all Rookie mistakes.
as long as you know what your are doing and not rushing, your phone should never brick.
Plus most of the bricks you hear about happened because people were installing Stock rom. if you are interested in AOSP roms then you dont have to worry.
is only happened when people used the flashtool to reinstall the kernel and baseband.
Back up the TA and Use flashtool carefully. thats all.
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I'm not sure i follow you, installing stock rom? Why would that brick?
And i'm mostly interested in kernels
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I'm not sure i follow you, installing stock rom? Why would that brick?
And i'm mostly interested in kernels
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btw stock i mean rom based on sony roms. many poeple are interested in those. including myself
the sony roms are built around different versions of phone means different baseband and if your are using lte and install european phone version rom your lte can stop working thus u install baseband for your phone from flashtool.
if you interested in kernel you should be good. install any kernel for z1. they all are same.
but confirm that though. it never cause issue for me
omar300 said:
btw stock i mean rom based on sony roms. many poeple are interested in those. including myself
the sony roms are built around different versions of phone means different baseband and if your are using lte and install european phone version rom your lte can stop working thus u install baseband for your phone from flashtool.
if you interested in kernel you should be good. install any kernel for z1. they all are same.
but confirm that though. it never cause issue for me
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So what you are saying is, people tend to brick the phone by flashing a stock rom not meant for the specific model?
And by doing this and the lte stops working, this is only a semi brick right? Redoing the right FW restores the phone and LTE support in this case without any real harm done?
I think i have a 6903 model.
99% of bricking is because of user mistakes.
Double read everything and make sure you understand what you can flash depending on bootloader status.
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So what you are saying is, people tend to brick the phone by flashing a stock rom not meant for the specific model?
And by doing this and the lte stops working, this is only a semi brick right? Redoing the right FW restores the phone and LTE support in this case without any real harm done?
I think i have a 6903 model.
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thats not bricking. thats just losing lte or 4g feature. easily can be fixed by installing right baseband from ftf file.
read the developers note in first post. most roms come with 6903/6902 baseband version. in middle of installation you can pick your phone.
so you wont run into that trouble anyways.
Always read the instructions in first post by developer of rom.
same goes for any device even if its a nexus and unbrickable.
what you read about is when sony made some deep changes and people didnt know about it.
now its clearly mentioned in instructions.
i was one of those who bricked the phone. sony replaced the motherboard for my phone no charges.
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thats not bricking. thats just losing lte or 4g feature. easily can be fixed by installing right baseband from ftf file.
read the developers note in first post. most roms come with 6903/6902 baseband version. in middle of installation you can pick your phone.
so you wont run into that trouble anyways.
Always read the instructions in first post by developer of rom.
same goes for any device even if its a nexus and unbrickable.
what you read about is when sony made some deep changes and people didnt know about it.
now its clearly mentioned in instructions.
i was one of those who bricked the phone. sony replaced the motherboard for my phone no charges.
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And you just told them that it wouldn't boot up and you had no idea what could have caused it?
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And you just told them that it wouldn't boot up and you had no idea what could have caused it?
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Yes. Be creative with excuses. Lol
Hi guys,
I want to root my device using the guide posted on this forum, but I'm not sure how I would go about restoring it to factory state to regain my warranty in case I need to send the phone for repairs. I previously had a One M7 and the whole process of rooting and flashing stuff was child's play, but it seems much more difficult with the xperia, espeically there seem to be nowere near as much guides and resources.
Has any of you done what I'm asking about? Is it even possible? This question is literally the only thing holding me back from rooting the phone, as the uselessness of my SD card is starting to seriously annoy me and the fact that we were promised the lollipop update in February and it's still not here nearly halfway through March.
Use Sony PC Companion to flash back to completely stock.
seklerek said:
Hi guys,
I want to root my device using the guide posted on this forum, but I'm not sure how I would go about restoring it to factory state to regain my warranty in case I need to send the phone for repairs. I previously had a One M7 and the whole process of rooting and flashing stuff was child's play, but it seems much more difficult with the xperia, espeically there seem to be nowere near as much guides and resources.
Has any of you done what I'm asking about? Is it even possible? This question is literally the only thing holding me back from rooting the phone, as the uselessness of my SD card is starting to seriously annoy me and the fact that we were promised the lollipop update in February and it's still not here nearly halfway through March.
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Firstly downgrade to a rootable firmware(ftf) using Flashtool. Then root. Backup TA partition (most important step). After this, even if you unlock bootloader, your TA partition is safe. After that if you want to restore warranty you may go back to the rootable firmware using Flashtool and then root and restore the TA partition. Viola you have your warranty back. Restoring the TA partition locks the bootloader and gives back the DRM keys and so you get your warranty.you may even flash the firmware all over to unroot (just to be on the safe side)
DO NOT UNLOCK BOOTLOADER BEFORE BACKING UP TA PARTITION OF YOU CARE ABOUT WARRANTY
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