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I am sort of new to the android os and have kind of taught myself through use of this website how to manipulate the os to help benefit its use. thanks to all of the great dev's that have spent there lesiure time doing what they love. I was just wondering if anyone of those great dev's would take the time to maybe help me out with this development stuff. i kind of wanna learn how to write even just a small free app that i could put on the market to maybe help someone else out. i would need to have a dev who is basically looking for an apprentice, someone like myself who is ( in short a guy with no life ) someone who loves the computer and loves his android phone. i suppose there may be a dev out there that is looking to help someone else out that wants to do what they do, so i will hit all the sites that i have been for the last couple months, wiki, androidspin, xda, google...etc for any info i can read about development and the android os. thanks in advance dev's hopefully someday i will be "cooking roms" for the community to use!
By now everyone knows the Droid X has an encrypted bootloader that is going to take a serious effort by the Android Developers to crack so we can load custom Rom's. What needs to be done is get Droid X phones into the hands of these developers so they can get to work. Pete(Bugless Beast) won the AllDroid contest so he has one and Birdman collected enough donations in just over a day to get a Droid X that he will have on 7/17. That's a start but I'd like for the Android community to pull together and lets get some donations to the developers, any amount helps $1, $2, $5 whatever the amount...skip the morning Dunkin Donuts, bagel, etc for one day and it will add up fast. I can continue to update this thread with new developers that can help us all by working on the Droid X as enough donations are collected so they can purchase their own phones. The developers create all the Roms, themes, etc for the rooting community to enjoy...lets make it a little easier for them to continue this development on all the new Android phones as they come to market.
I sent a few messages out to some developing teams and the first response back was from Cyanogen that the person he recommends is Koush. Once he has enough donations I can list another developer for us to donate to and help the rooting/unlocking cause.
Thanks to the Android community Koush should have a Droid X by Saturday to start hacking at that bootloader, I received numerous requests that a donation link be setup for ChevyNo1. I contacted Chevy to see if he was interested in helping hack the Droid X which he was. Here is a direct link for donations for him, you can check the link out over at his forums as well: http://ssandroid.com/
This is our chance, so lets start donating to ChevyNo1 for a Droid X, please put a note that the donation is for a DroidX: http://bit.ly/awetS5
If anyone would like to recommend a development team or developer let me know. Please spread the word, also you can let me know other Forums to post the same message.
A BIG THANKS TO BIRDMAN FOR ROOTING THE DROIDX
Man now you have me thinking about how much I miss Dunkin Donuts!! Sending you my donation tonight!! Good luck Dev's!
i saw what koush did with an incredible in a short period of time, donating to koush is def. a great idea, i will as soon as i can.
Just sent Koush $20
Whats the chance of Koush really being able to do anything? was he able to do with the milestone?
Riztnack said:
Whats the chance of Koush really being able to do anything? was he able to do with the milestone?
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I don't believe Koush has a Milestone. The idea of my post is to get Droid X phones into the developers hands as quickly as possible, just so everyone knows these donations are not going to me but directly to the developer and as of right now that is Koush. When enough people donate I can list another developer, if anyone has someone in mind please post it up and I can contact them to see if they want to develop on the Droid X. Someone asked Cyanogen about cracking the Droid X bootloader, his response was everything can be be hacked.
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his response was everything can be be hacked.
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Everything CAN be hacked, but that is irrelevant. Everyone knows there's no such thing as an uncrackable encryption algorithm and such, the question is, can it be done in a reasonable amount of time or will it get cracked three years after its release when no one has one anymore, lol
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I don't believe Koush has a Milestone. The idea of my post is to get Droid X phones into the developers hands as quickly as possible, just so everyone knows these donations are not going to me but directly to the developer and as of right now that is Koush. When enough people donate I can list another developer, if anyone has someone in mind please post it up and I can contact them to see if they want to develop on the Droid X. Someone asked Cyanogen about cracking the Droid X bootloader, his response was everything can be be hacked.
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I would like to know of something that Koush has hacked that is worth something, I feel that I am investing in something that I have no idea of the work he has done. Not only that, you have 7 posts on XDA..........I am concerned but interested in this.
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I would like to know of something that Koush has hacked that is worth something, I feel that I am investing in something that I have no idea of the work he has done. Not only that, you have 7 posts on XDA..........I am concerned but interested in this.
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Koush is responsible for Clockwork Recovery, which I believe (Droid X is my first Android phone) is an indispensable program when it comes to messing with custom roms.
Riztnack when I asked Cyanogen who on Team Douche would be the one that he recommends to try to hack the Droid X, his response was Koush. I think Cyanogen and Team Douche has hacked plenty of devices and provided alot to the Android community. I would like to see someone from Team Unrevoked working on the Droid X as well as others, by banding together with small donations we can make this happen.
I always use the same name on any Forum/Twitter, I am active for the most part on DroidForums but some moderators/people are rubbing me the wrong way lately. Type FSRBIKER into Google, you can see I am involved in plenty of places....my Ebay name is Xterra so you can check that as well.
BTW I don't have a Droid X, I might if it can be hacked but I did donate and will to each developer that is working on it.
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Koush is responsible for Clockwork Recovery, which I believe (Droid X is my first Android phone) is an indispensable program when it comes to messing with custom roms.
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In addition, Koush is the individual responsible for porting Cyanogenmod to the original Droid - and he has maintained that port since the beginning...
Koush donations
I know Koush and Team Douche can do this, donation will go out tonight!
thanks
I sent a few messages out to some developing teams and the first response back was from Cyanogen that the person he recommends is Koush. Koush sent me the Paypal account info below for donations that will go to buying a Droid X. Once he has enough donations I can list another developer for us to donate to and help the rooting/unlocking cause.[/SIZE]
This is our chance, so lets start donating to Koush for a Droid X: [email protected]
Its Sent thanks in advance!
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Riztnack said:
I would like to know of something that Koush has hacked that is worth something, I feel that I am investing in something that I have no idea of the work he has done. Not only that, you have 7 posts on XDA..........I am concerned but interested in this.
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Makes me giggle:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
http://www.absolutelyandroid.com/the-man-who-rooted-the-g1-an-interview-with-koush/
Read up, Koush is an Android king like Cyanogen
might wanna buy this guy a phone
b16a2smith I have an sbf, who wants to test it?
b16a2smith Please RT. SBF on hand for #DroidX Bootloader 26.01 need testers.
dont know if its for real or not tho just wanted to share , maybe there is hope
found it here http://mobile.twitter.com/b16a2smith
This smells fishy.
MOD's I dont think it is right for some random person to post a paypal address that is somehow tied to a well known and respected dev. I see no reason why Koush could not have made this post himself.
Plus, the paypal address I have used in the past to donate to koush and the one listed here dont match, not that koush cant have two paypal addressess....but.....
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This smells fishy.
MOD's I dont think it is right for some random person to post a paypal address that is somehow tied to a well known and respected dev. I see no reason Koush could not have made this post himself.
Plus, the paypal address I have used in the past to donate to koush and the one listed here dont match, not that koush cant have two paypal addressess....but.....
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True, we can wait however long until he can do so, right??
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This smells fishy.
MOD's I dont think it is right for some random person to post a paypal address that is somehow tied to a well known and respected dev. I see no reason why Koush could not have made this post himself.
Plus, the paypal address I have used in the past to donate to koush and the one listed here dont match, not that koush cant have two paypal addressess....but.....
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The MOD's have verified this is Koush's account, if unsure you can verify it with Koush on Twitter. The thread was locked while the MOD's verified this information, maybe they can make everyone at ease and post it here again.
The intention of my post was not directed at any particular developer but the developer community in general. I am simply trying to get the ball rolling and presented an organized way of helping to get the Droid X into the developers hands as fast as possible. If anyone has any other suggestions please post up.
very nice idea!
P.I.M.P.
Koush is a def a pro! Look at this kid...
Hi all,
This is my first post, although I have been following the group for a long time. My post is motivated by the observation that a massive imbalance exists, particularily in the Legend development community.
There is a huge mass of non-contributing users badgering a small group of hard-working developers, whilst free-loading off the many hours they spend trying to improve the Legend for all of us. (BTW - I'm not pointing any fingers that don't equally apply to myself!) The value of the hours they are putting in is huge, and the return amounts only to the occational humble click of a thanks button.
I have written to the XDA owners and proposed that they implement a system whereby users can donate to a specific thread, and that each month the proceeds of thoses donations are distributed to posters according to the distribution of new "thanks" clicks to them. Unfortunately I have not heard anything in reply, so in the meantime I propose that we start here in the Legend development forum in a less systematic way.
For example; all of us eagerly following ogo2's thread on his Alpha rom should support how we can. We have all heard BlaYO's hesitance to get too involved in that he needs another Legend to do development work on, as he can't render his own out of service for days on end. Absolutely fair point. I would suggest that all active developers in here create a donation account somewhere so that the rest of us ungrateful, free-loading scavengers (again, myself included, and meant in the most positive way! ) can contribute.
Let's get BlaYO a second development Legend, or ogo2 some resources on Linux compilation etc. It's the least we can do, even if we are just selfishly offering to help them, help us
It would not take much, and I am quite certain that anyone who can afford a Legend can also afford to donate $10-20 now and then. What a small price to pay for all the hours that our devs spend working to bring all of us the latest and greatest. Let's give something back!
There were a bunch of users that actually donated to my PayPal account (a few months ago I didn't believe this could happen by the way).
I'd personally object to such a system for various reasons, the main one being complication of something which is a pretty simple in fact: You like the work of someone, you donate (or buy).
Moreover, there are a few CM developers whose work on their device (which happens to use an msm7227 chipset) directly influences the Legend too and therefore my work as well. They are not active in the Legend forum though.
So what I basically want to say: There's a lot of work going on – not hours but weeks – which you might never see because these almost unmoderated boards here are full of you-name-it and every CM developer I know pretty much dislikes XDA for that very reason.
You don't see us (40+ developers) working, but that doesn't mean we aren't.
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Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
ali ba said:
Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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Is this meaning that the new CM7s will have the new kernel?
By the way, what was modified in the kernel source so the tiwlan didn't compile normaly?
I don't need a new Legend, I just need some peace...
There you go
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I don't need a new Legend, I just need some peace...
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Peace be with you
Hmmm... OK, I get that my proposal could have some shortcomings, however the intent is good. It's great to hear that users donated to your Paypal, Ali Ba, perhaps other devs should just publish Paypal details too, and users can direct donations to where they feel they are most deserved?
It is not meant to be fair compensation for the numerous hours spent, as the basic principles of community development should still be the driving force. It could, however, be a token of appreciation from those unable to contribute in any other way.
I can't help but feel that there would be more devs involved with more and faster progress as a consequence, if only there was a little reward in there too. Surely that would be in everybodies interest.
In any event, I offer my thanks to all the devs here, and I would be happy to back that up with a contribution, should you decide to go that way
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Ah, and by the way, I've been busy too, so tiwlan on 2.6.35 is almost finished.
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I was working on getting wl12xx driver working with 2.6.32 kernel but I didn't succeed yet. Is there a reason not to switch to wl12xx driver instead? It also provides soft AP support int the same driver.
Regarding donations, it would be nice if I could donate you via Google checkout.
Thanks.
Yea leave Blay0 alone man, He's getting enough hassle on the Alpha thread as it is! people say they'd like to help then just request more things like a2sd,overclocked kernel etc.If you know anything about linux try helping by trying to build drivers for the last 2 bits (i.e Bluetooth,wifi)
I must say also that there were individuals who offered me donations which I respectfully refused and instead apoint those guys to their nearest charity. I'm not doing this for money (I make money doing other things) I'm just doing it coz I like to know how things work and I always like to learn new things. So if I become bored those donations definitely won't convince me to keep on doing it.
Don't you guys ever think that I'm doing all this for you! Noooope! I'm doing it for me and my own satisfaction. Yes, that's right I'm actualy a selfish, egoistic basterd but in a process of achieving my own goals (which are also inspired by some of your suggestions) I'm really happy if someone else learn something from me. They are few but it doesn't matter... they will definitelly pass on their knowledge and that's important coz I believe knowledge is universal and must be available to anyone willing to accept it and you cannot charge for that.
Don't kidd yourselves, this Legend thingie will be among us at most for another year and then it will get its successors and its community will become even smaller and eventually it will be disbanded and some of us will find new projects, learnig new thing and again passing on all the gained knowledge.
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Don't kidd yourselves, this Legend thingie will be among us at most for another year.
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A whole year is an optimistic approach
The main problem in the development of the HTC Legend is the device itself. It's a rare phone, and pretty much a very small group of people is using it. That also makes the group of talented developers thinner. Look at the Hero or SGS forums topic/post count. Sure - most of them are retarded, and previously answered questions, but still folks in the dev section are coding some crazy and amazing stuff. That's because those devices where popular and successful. The HTC Legend was ment to be the successor of the HTC Hero, but this ain't gonna happen. Nobody will remember this phone in a year or two. That's of course HTCs fault, not ours.
Also mentioning all the request, demands and stupid questions in the dev forum - this forum is not that bad
Go check the Nexus S section. For example the NexusSense topic (my girlfriend got a Nexus so I'm somewhat interested). Now that's pure fukcin massacre out there
Greets!
Sent from my HTC Legend using XDA Premium App
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A whole year is an optimistic approach
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Agreed, I thought Legend was a kickass sucessor, but very few people actually bought it...I've deserted to Desire S, but I think that's a very similar case so far anyways...
But back on topic: The thing is, everyone has an interest in what he's doing and unless he has a gain from that work he wouldn't be doing it But the idea of donating is noble ofcourse
Let's support our developers by not asking stupid and obvious questions, using search button, hitting that freakin' "thanks" button as often as we can, and most importantly by using our own brains to gain even more from their work
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Let's support our developers by not asking stupid and obvious questions, using search button, hitting that freakin' "thanks" button as often as we can, and most importantly by using our own brains to gain even more from their work
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Amen! (10char )
Agree with the great Dr!
PLUS This is a General thread so should be in the general section.....Threads should go into the right forums for a start! Hate to think how many threads there are in the wrong place :/
Well gentlemen I hate to say this but, I just canceled the rest of my contract with my carrier Cincinnati Bell. I have bought a Samsung Galaxy Touch 4G from Sprint. If anybody would like my two still functional Huawei Ascend X phones I will give them to you, If you are willing to pay for and arrange shipping somehow. My Patches that i have posted for the for softkeys, I give to the community to continue if needed, hopefully I left good enough instructions for anybody to follow. Good luck in the future.
Serge
Wow thanks for all your contributions you made :good:
We are running a donation for XDA American Dev Randomblame, he has kindly said he would help out where he can if he had a X6. It would be awesome if XDA member nayneshdev who is running the collection give you the funds already collected and you forward the X6 onto randomblame? just a suggestion :cyclops:
Your X6 would be more suitable than the proposed new Cherry Mobile X6 for randomblame as its 850Mhz and he could utilize the 3G.
anyways enjoy the new samsung.. cheers again for all your help
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Wow thanks for all your contributions you made :good:
We are running a donation for XDA American Dev Randomblame, he has kindly said he would help out where he can if he had a X6. It would be awesome if XDA member nayneshdev who is running the collection give you the funds already collected and you forward the X6 onto randomblame? just a suggestion :cyclops:
Your X6 would be more suitable than the proposed new Cherry Mobile X6 for randomblame as its 850Mhz and he could utilize the 3G.
anyways enjoy the new samsung.. cheers again for all your help
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Absolutely correct, I am very happy to give the donations, but the problem is that the community looks very dried cause so far i have only been able to collect approx $41. It has been around 10 days since then. Sergekarol may please advise the amount so that we can revise the sum and see if we can reach it.
Thank you so very much for your contribution on this forum, mate and good luck with your new device. Good choise, wish I had one too!
# My dog is my avatar.
@sergekarol, Welcome to the family of Samsung, I myself currently running on SGS2 i777 from AT&T
@Sarge ... what is your expectation in term of price inclusive shipping charges
@all member : if want to keep spirit on.... for this mobile then we can donate .... so that we can send a mobile to randomblame who promise to contribute in his way ... so start donating to naynesh so he will arrange to do transfer money.
Epic 4G Touch? Seems familiar
@all. FB0 variant was very good phone for exploring android system. You can increase your skill with this device freely. Keep spirit guys. All of you can be developers of this amazing device :thumbup:
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ardX said:
Epic 4G Touch? Seems familiar
@all. FB0 variant was very good phone for exploring android system. You can increase your skill with this device freely. Keep spirit guys. All of you can be developers of this amazing device :thumbup:
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Thanks for lifting our spirits. Since you say that all of us can be developers then i think you will not mind sharing your method of developing from source. It is indeed true that our device is almost brick proof. So a detailed step by step guide will be very appreciated. And thankx for everything and the first working Jb.
I wish that we can negotiate Serge's fone with the bucks that we have.
Come on Serge, let's keep the party rollin.
Thanks.
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Thanks for lifting our spirits. Since you say that all of us can be developers then i think you will not mind sharing your method of developing from source. It is indeed true that our device is almost brick proof. So a detailed step by step guide will be very appreciated. And thankx for everything and the first working Jb.
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Guide for building from source? There're many of it in the web. Especially XDA. In my thread mentioning one of it. I think you not yet to try it? Right? Cause its very easy. Just simple command everywhere. You'll surprised how easy it is. But, the hard part was fixing bugs
My style of fixing feature was googling. Yeah, you're not wrong. Google has it all. Just how to make best query to get best answer. All android forum and github is best place to get it. Almost code in android was similar, same SOC give most similarity. So, it's just about your skill of googling, your logic of android and small skill of coding. Thats it
Just do it
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We appreciate the current developers that are working on getting LiquidSmooth and Cyanogenmod to run on our devices. Personally, I feel that if we had at least one or two developers who have done longtime/extensive work with Android devices; would make our little community an extremely happy bunch and help our current developers out extremely as there are a few hiccups that they are trying to sort themselves as dedicated devs.
I understand that everyone can be tied up on a consistent and heavy basis but if its not too much to ask from the community; I would like to request someone of higher knowledge in this to take a look at helping us get at least one fully functional AOSP/AOKP/CM/Para/Omni/Liquid etc. ROM of the latter on our devices or at least throw a few patches to the developers on our side.
We really appreciate the time and effort you all put into the work that you so heartfully give and put out there for us and we thank you sincerely.
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This would be amazing, especially with the work on LiquidSmooth being halted, without a booting release, This phone is a "mid-range flagship" so I thought it would be a more popular device. :/
I believe your answer lies within the thread linked below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738971