Hi,
I've started this poll for ALL owners of the LG G Watch R.
The question is: does your G Watch R flicker after charging it to full 100% when you take it off the charger?
After selecting yes or no on this poll, can you check your build number on your watch and post it here?
If you post the info, please also note if your watch does flicker or not to keep the results clean.
something like this:
Does flicker:
Software version: 5.0.1
Build number: LWX48P
Serial starting with: 412KPGS0139XXX
or
Does not flicker:
Software version: 5.0.1
Build number: LWX48P
Serial starting with: 412KPGS0139XXX
What I'm trying to figure out by starting this poll, is if it's hardware related or not.
To check your build:
Go to "Settings" on your watch.
Then press "About".
in the about section you will find the following info:
Software version: 5.0.1 (This will change after a new update.)
Build number: LWX48P
Serial starting with: 412KPGS0139XXX (Just replace last 3 digits with XXX, we don't need to know your exact serial number.)
Above info is from my own LG G Watch R.
Thanks for participating
Treborov.
Results so far:
All watches posted so far have Build number: LWX48P. I wonder if there are other build numbers out there? If anyone has a different build number please post it here
Serial ranges: 410KP series, 411KP series and 412KP series.
Everyone so far is running software version 5.0.1 (Which is the latest update.)
Remarks by users about what might cause the flickering effect:
Screen brightness settings: 1x
(Google calendar event) notifications: 1x (Could be any notification because I had the same problem with multiple notifications that all tried to pup up at once)
Watchmaker app: 2x (installed on 2 watches that have the flickering effect.)
Hardware related:
Loose display ribbons: 1x
I have had the snow-crash in one and the flickering in my second watch, now on my third. that one seems all right at the moment. what makes me suspect hardware in stead of software is that the LG G, does not show this problem. and both are technically quite close related.
If my watch shows the flickering again, i will partake in your experiment, as i am quite curious as to what is causing this. I also noticed the much brighter flickering as brightness was down to 1.
As i read the posts concerning this problem, i also noticed that the part that flickers is not always the same, on my watch it was the lower half blinking, others have mentioned the upper half.
It still reminds me of what a led does when power goes below a certain threshold.
Good luck in your project!
RoosW said:
I have had the snow-crash in one and the flickering in my second watch, now on my third. that one seems all right at the moment. what makes me suspect hardware in stead of software is that the LG G, does not show this problem. and both are technically quite close related.
If my watch shows the flickering again, i will partake in your experiment, as i am quite curious as to what is causing this. I also noticed the much brighter flickering as brightness was down to 1.
As i read the posts concerning this problem, i also noticed that the part that flickers is not always the same, on my watch it was the lower half blinking, others have mentioned the upper half.
It still reminds me of what a led does when power goes below a certain threshold.
Good luck in your project!
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Thanks for leaving a comment, I did read all your comments in the other post about you sending your watch back to LG.
So you're on your third LG G Watch R now right? Not exchanged it for an LG G Watch?
If you got another Watch R. would you mind posting the build number?
Let's just hope your 3rd watch doesn't go all "disco" on you like the other two
Disco time haha. Half of the screen flickers, same as the OP explained. Really annoying, happened 2x already within 3 weeks of owning the watch
Does flicker:
Software version: 5.0.1
Build number: LWX48P
Serial starting with: 411KPZK0129XXX
Software : 5.0.1
Build : LWX48P
Serial starting with : 411KPPB
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So you're on your third LG G Watch R now right? Not exchanged it for an LG G Watch?
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I had a Pebble before i had an LG G, my wife now has that one, i decided to stay with the LG G R, because the recessed screen helps in preventing random contact with my sleeve (thus interrupting the music playing on my headset), and i like its looks a lot more then the LG G, the screen above the bezel like the 360 has, is why i did not got that one (besides the poor hardware and battery) until someone writes an app that kills the touchscreen until the crown is pushed once or say 2 times, all other options are just to annoying
Hmmm.. 2 days straight of flickering every morning when I tried to check the watch right after I wake up.
I noticed that after I restart the device, a Google calendar event notification will pop up. Then the flickering will stop
Looks like a Calendar Event notification bug in Android wear, could someone confirm this?
Update : It flickers again, no calendar event notification. Maybe this is a hardware problem
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Does flicker:
Software version: 5.0.1
Build number: LWX48P
Serial starting with: 410KPVH0010XXX
thought the 5.0.1 solve the flicker but it came back after few days
O.K. Update on my watch.
I did a factory reset yesterday on my LG G Watch R.
I haven't touched the watch as in, changing face plate installing software etc.
This morning when I took it off the charger it didn't start flickering like it did the last two days. (So it was working as it should.)
Things I had installed on my watch when it was flickering: (before factory reset)
Multi Calculator
Instaweather app.
Intellicom Watch faces app.
Luxury watch faces app.
WatchMaker free app.
Facer app.
After factory reset, the only thing that automatically popped up on my watch when I checked watch faces, was the Facer app. The rest of the apps wern't showing on my watch anymore.
However, I didn't uninstall those on my phone.
I uninstalled the Facer app on my phone.
After checking the Watch Face options this morning, all the installed programs are back on my watch.
It seems they all got synced again between my phone and my watch.
Maybe I checked to soon yesterday after the reset and these programs weren't synced yet.
I'll take a closer look after next factory reset.
Thanks everyone who has participated so far in this thread :good:
@unclebor
In your app list, we only have 1 common app installed.
I also installed watchmaker, and as far as I remember the flickering started after i installed that! I will uninstall watchmaker and delete the data folder because I already tried uninstalling it but the data folder was not deleted.
Hopefully this is the culprit, if not maybe this is a hardware issue.
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The flicker is most likely due to a loose display ribbon connector and stops after a while because the watch warms up, the connector expands and makes better contact, but it will remain intermittent since it's not pressed all the way in. You need to open the watch and press in all the connectors (there are 4) and the flicker will likely stop.
For the record, I'm on 5.0.1, LWX48P, 411KPSL0096XXX, no flicker.
Mine does the same with LWX48P. It happends since i started using it with always On screen. Can we return it and exchange to a new one? I like pebbles warranty since they have issues about flickering screens too. Returned and sent me a new one.
Since update 5.0.1 the display flickers sometimes after fully charged. Power off and power on the watch helps for me (no reboot!)
Software version: 5.0.1
Build number: LWX48P
Serial starting with: 410KPNY0036XXX
cheers
Manfred
Update on my watch day 2 after factory reset.
I took it off the charging cradle this morning and again, no flickering.
It seems the factory reset helped so far. (Crosses fingers.)
my current settings are:
Adjust Brightness = 4 (stock after reset)
Always-on screen = off
Face plate = suit
Installed apps:
Intellicom watchfaces (did not select any face plates after reset)
Luxery watchfaces (did not select any face plates after reset)
Watchmaker (did not select any face plates after reset)
InstaWeather (did not use this after reset)
I'm going to change one setting today, and that's the Adjust Brightness = 4 to Adjust Brightness = 1 and see what it will do tomorrow when I take if off the charger.
If indeed it flickers again tomorrow (which I surely hope it won't), I'll change the setting back to 4 and recharge it to 100% and check again.
After tomorrow (if the brightness setting isn't the issue), I'll put the brightness level back to 4 and select a 3rd party watch face.
Yes, this is going to be a slow testing process, because I want to check only after a whole night of charging to not manipulate the charging time.
When I can trigger the flickering process by changing some setting, I'll just recharge it on the fly. Check if I can make it "un-flicker" by undoing the last change I made on the watch.
if that doesn't help, uninstall the program that made it flicker in the first place and check after that. (if it's a 3rd party app and not a Google Wear 5.0.1 setting)
If that doesn't help, factory reset, one more night charging on default settings, if that doesn't make the watch flicker, re-install the program that caused it to flicker and retest the last procedure that triggered the "disco" effect.
Makes sense? LOL for me it does
I wish I had like 10 of these watches, would make the testing process go much faster.
Thanks again for everyone participating in this poll and posting serials and such :good:
It flickers again this morning without the watchmaker app. So that's not the culprit, really annoying, i will return this for warranty.
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Why don't you guys return the watch? Sod the testing the watch was not designed to flicker! When I get mine on Xmas day, if it flickers.. Back it goes
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There's a reply on the other thread, he returned it ang LG fixed it. But flickering still persist. So looks like LG doesn't really know how to fix this. But I sent mine for warranty.
No official statement from LG regarding this issue.
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wicked1683 said:
There's a reply on the other thread, he returned it ang LG fixed it. But flickering still persist. So looks like LG doesn't really know how to fix this. But I sent mine for warranty.
No official statement from LG regarding this issue.
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Here are my 2 cents about the flickering on the watch:
Quick summary,
Got the watch (day 1), it was fully charged 100% when I turned it on, paired it and played with the stock settings and options.
Didn't flicker the first morning after full charge (day 2).
I played with it a lot, installed apps, changed face plates, (Also tried out some MOMO 360 face plates through the 3rd party app to see what they looked like on this G Watch R, didn't like them, chose another one), played with the weather app..etc.
Flickered after full charge! (day 3).
Played with it a bit, didn't really pay attention to the flickering because it was working normally after a reboot, just thought it was annoying. However put it in the back of my head for the next morning to check.
Flickered after full charge! (day 4).
Thought it was pretty annoying and checked the web for possible solutions and if other people had the same problem with this "disco effect".
After reading the threads here, I decided to do some testing myself.
I did reset my watch to factory settings.
Didn't flicker after full charge (day 5).
Didn't flicker after full charge (day 6).
Changed display settings to brightness level 1 (was on 4).
If the watch was broken, hardware related, the flickering effect would be there all the time right? (Broken = broken, no matter what the settings).
If it was a loose wire, it wouldn't only flicker after charging. (Unless the watch heats up to a certain level on the charger which would cause a bad connection in the watch itself which makes it flicker only after recharge.)
Therefore I think it's either software related OR the combination between the brightness/always-on settings and hardware.
There might be something in one of the installed (3rd party?) apps OR in the brightness/Always-on settings that triggers the "disco" on your watch.
Maybe if the brightness level is put below stock settings, there is a condenser that regulates the screen brightness? (Going to put this to the test.)
IF tomorrow morning my watch flickers, I know it's the hardware that can't cope with the low brightness setting. If not, I'm going to change the brightness back up to 4 and install a 3rd party watch face.
I still think, because Dersie changed his brightness settings through another app, it is software related.
if it was hardware related, it would always flicker after recharge, no matter which app you use to dim the screen. (condenser/hardware goes all stressed when it has to power up the screen in dimmed mode).
It's like searching for a needle in the haystack, but hey.... I like finding needles in haystacks.
It gotten worse! After charging I decided to turn it off, I slept, when I woke up I turned it on, then seconds later flickering happends. Restarted it, but still the same. I turned it off for a couple of times. Until I decided to just leave it on until flickering dissapears. Did factory reset but still the same. Sick and tired of this, $300 watch and its defective I dont wanna deal with this everyday, Im gonna return it to newegg since they have 30 day return/replacement warranty. But my watch has a lil dent on the bezel already. I hope they still accept it.
unclebor said:
I still think, because Dersie changed his brightness settings through another app, it is software related.
if it was hardware related, it would always flicker after recharge, no matter which app you use to dim the screen. (condenser/hardware goes all stressed when it has to power up the screen in dimmed mode).
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Mine started flicking after 4 weeks, batt at 42% 2 day after charged, on a table since 1H, so no movement to move hardware screen connector, no after full charge. No issue the last 2 days after using brigntness setup with SWApp....
condenser problem is maybe a way for the problem. It happen only from screen OFF to ON for me, never when screen is already ON for awhile. So only after condenser can be not charged.
Time to let you guys know about what's going on with my watch.
Didn't have much time to post anything the last couple of days :/
All I can say is, so far so good.
The last 3 days it didn't flicker at all.
I am running a 3rd party watch face now, brightness settings set to 1. No flickering after full recharge.
I don't know what caused it in the first place.
Maybe it was a MOTO 360 face watch I tried on my watch to see what it looked like, I don't know.
I will do some more testing after these busy days at the end of the year.
I will post again in this thread when the flickering returns or when I find out how to trigger it.
If I can find out anything else about the "disco effect" on the G Watch R series on other sites, I'll post a link here.
I'm sure this isn't over yet, I guess I am just lucky at the moment that it doesn't flicker.
However, knowing hardware /software it will probably come back since I already experienced the affect on this watch.
Hello all,
Today it's the third day with my LG Watch R. All in all I like it very much, although I think that the usability of the Samsung Gear 2 Neo (which I had before) is slightly better. After three days of using, I experienced some annoying bugs. Maybe it's just my fault, so maybe you are able to help me?
1. Sometimes the Watch doesn't receive any notifications. In this case my phone (Galaxy S 5) is blinking green because I received a Whatsapp message, but I got no notification on my watch...
2. Sometimes my watch doesn't vibrate, when I get a notification. (Although it worked before)
3. I don't understand, when the notification will be displayed in "fullscreen" and when it's just a small card on the display of the watch. I liked it very much on my Gear 2 Neo, that the notification are displayed in fullscreen while vibrating. Sometimes the LG Watch R does it similar, but the most of the time it only displays it as a card.
4. I can't turn the watch off, while charging it??
5. A Facer watchface stucks after several seconds. It only goes on, when I touch the monitor. Then it stucks again.
6. Is there a wear App, with which I'm able to read whatsapp messages at any time (and not only when I get a notification)?
7. Whatsapp again: Sometimes I see the pictures someone sent me in the background, sometimes not. I'm never able to see them as a real picture on the display at all.
I would be very happy, if someone is able to help me in some points. Maybe there are more people having these problems?
Many thanks in advance!!
Welcome to the Wear World
Same for me, my SW2 is more usefull than my LG-R and very very ..... better for all notifications. Notification are not the the highlight of wear.
Completely right Dersie, AWear has a very long way to go.
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1. It only happens to me with WhatsApp ... not always though
2. Never happened .. maybe the vibration was weak and you've missed it.
3. The notification that will be pushed by the phone (like a message) will be first displayed full screen for few seconds, then it will become small for you to pick up when you want. The GNow cards that are informational only (stocks, weather) are generated by the GNow daemon in the watch itself (based on your GNow activity on the watch) and those will be displayed directly as small, informal cards.
4. The watch face is turning black by itself if the watch is not moving (I have no idea if it's related also to the horizontal position). This behaviour is independent of the charging status. So, leave it laying down on the table and you will see that it will go into a save power mode by itself (also when you put it to charge). Is taking few minutes to get into that state.
5.That is a purely Facer problem. Not watch's fault. I've bought Facer as well as WatchMaker and both had hiccups. Watchmaker is my option so far and is my daily driver for weeks, w/o any problem.
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7. Works for me but I saw it depends on the size of the picture (the large ones take more to be transferred via BT on the watch, for viewing).
S-Treffi said:
Hello all,
Today it's the third day with my LG Watch R. All in all I like it very much, although I think that the usability of the Samsung Gear 2 Neo (which I had before) is slightly better. After three days of using, I experienced some annoying bugs. Maybe it's just my fault, so maybe you are able to help me?
1. Sometimes the Watch doesn't receive any notifications. In this case my phone (Galaxy S 5) is blinking green because I received a Whatsapp message, but I got no notification on my watch...
2. Sometimes my watch doesn't vibrate, when I get a notification. (Although it worked before)
3. I don't understand, when the notification will be displayed in "fullscreen" and when it's just a small card on the display of the watch. I liked it very much on my Gear 2 Neo, that the notification are displayed in fullscreen while vibrating. Sometimes the LG Watch R does it similar, but the most of the time it only displays it as a card.
4. I can't turn the watch off, while charging it??
5. A Facer watchface stucks after several seconds. It only goes on, when I touch the monitor. Then it stucks again.
6. Is there a wear App, with which I'm able to read whatsapp messages at any time (and not only when I get a notification)?
7. Whatsapp again: Sometimes I see the pictures someone sent me in the background, sometimes not. I'm never able to see them as a real picture on the display at all.
I would be very happy, if someone is able to help me in some points. Maybe there are more people having these problems?
Many thanks in advance!!
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1. The App needs to support it (or at least use a compatible notification type) - I also use a handful of apps that don't work (most notably those that have persistent notification to keep service alive and just change the content - this will not work with Wear)
2. For me it works flawlessly, but it's possible the watch "misses" a notification for some reason. Some apps also don't vibrate until you dismiss a previous notification from them.
3. Not sure what you mean, but card behaviour depends in part on the watchface you use - try Pujie or Watchmaker, it can be customized on both
4. Yes, this is impossible, the watch will always turn on. Maybe you can try charging it in recovery or bootloader, but that would burn the screen. You can put it in airplane mode while on charge, though. Also, if you have "Mute connected phone" selected, this will be disabled while on the charger, so no need to worry about missing something. Why would you want to do that, anyway?
5. This is normal, there are two modes for watchfaces - the "active" mode where everything is moving and shining, and "ambient" which is a lighter mode to save battery life - you want this mode to light up as few pixels as possible and there are no animations - you want this Avoid watch faces that have thick non-moving elements (like a center of a crown) - best is just a thin font with digital clock.
6&7. I don't use whatsapp, but this mostly depends on whatsapp and less on the watch.
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Hi all,
First of all thank you very much for your answers so far!
1.
@ro_explorer: Yes, thats right, it's mostly whatsapp, but I think I experienced also this problem on e-mails
@Zviratko: I see. But it's very confusing in the first days of using the watch
I uninstalled Mini Launcher for Wear yesterday und now I don't have any missed notifications. Maybe it has something to do with Mini Launcher and Lollipop?
2.
See point 1. After uninstalling it, the watch vibrates as it should.
3.
This is the point I still don't understand. For example on my Samsung Gear 2 a notification stay in fullscreen for 5 seconds and then the watch is shown again and I can see this notification in the notifications tab. It's very random on my LG Watch R, when the notification is being showed in full screen (not a "big" card, it was full screen, like swiping to this card).
But, also here, I never saw a fullscreen notification after uninstalling Mini Launcher?!
4. Now I understand this behavior! In important things like showing notifications the watch seems so stupid but in this case, the watch is very smart. Hurray! :laugh:
5. Okay, I will try watchmaker then, thanks! @ro_explorer
7. I see, that makes sense. Maybe I was just too fast for the watch. By the way: Are the pictures on your watch in good quality @ro_explorer ? Mine are looking like 50x50 pixels or something like this
It's very sad, that the wear system still needs so much to develop. I thought it is stable, like the Gear 2 was (c'mon, it's Samsung, normally they are not the kings in developing..). Hopefully it will change in the next months, when the iwatch arrives the stores. I love the design of the watch and don't want to miss it, but these bugs and problems are driving me crazy :crying:
Hi,
I have just added a "make notifications vibration stronger" feature in last SWApp Launcher Wear version:
https://plus.google.com/+CyrilPreiss0/posts/CUX1DsHCTTw
Hi there
About a week ago I received the notification that there's an update available for my moto x. I charged it to the max and then ran the update. However, it seems like it didn't update properly because there are several annoying things happening with my phone ever since.
- Ambient display not deactivate-able - it'll keep showing up.
- no gestures working except for "twist for Quick Capture"
- moto x display function is not working properly (no message-preview on the standby-screen when holding a finger onto the message icon - just black & yes, the option is activated)
- phone gets unusually warm frequently
- phone doesn't run smoothly anymore
- phone feels as if I had a fake "lollipop-like launcher" running on top of a kitkat phone which causes all these things.
I contacted motorola support which was unable to help me beyond the help for imbeciles (have you tried activating the moto display option/waiving option, factory-reset, etc), they reached out to me via twitter after a complaint on it and I shot this video for them, showing how dysfunctional my phone is.: **edit** new user here, cannot link to the vid
Initially, the moto support did not even watch the video - lol.
The factory reset via the phone's settings did work - it deleted everything (data, pics, etc) but it did not solve any of the mentioned problems above. In fact, it feels even worse. Now I am kind of at my wits' end.
I uploaded a screen capture onto imgur here : *edit* (attached)
I am afraid I will have to flash a rom manually but am afraid to F it up and brick my beloved moto :S which is why I am reaching out to you guys here at XDA. Thank you for reading this post and taking your time to help.
best
There's only one gesture right?
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Hi there
About a week ago I received the notification that there's an update available for my moto x. I charged it to the max and then ran the update. However, it seems like it didn't update properly because there are several annoying things happening with my phone ever since.
- Ambient display not deactivate-able - it'll keep showing up.
- no gestures working except for "twist for Quick Capture"
- moto x display function is not working properly (no message-preview on the standby-screen when holding a finger onto the message icon - just black & yes, the option is activated)
- phone gets unusually warm frequently
- phone doesn't run smoothly anymore
- phone feels as if I had a fake "lollipop-like launcher" running on top of a kitkat phone which causes all these things.
I contacted motorola support which was unable to help me beyond the help for imbeciles (have you tried activating the moto display option/waiving option, factory-reset, etc), they reached out to me via twitter after a complaint on it and I shot this video for them, showing how dysfunctional my phone is.: **edit** new user here, cannot link to the vid
Initially, the moto support did not even watch the video - lol.
The factory reset via the phone's settings did work - it deleted everything (data, pics, etc) but it did not solve any of the mentioned problems above. In fact, it feels even worse. Now I am kind of at my wits' end.
I uploaded a screen capture onto imgur here : *edit* (attached)
I am afraid I will have to flash a rom manually but am afraid to F it up and brick my beloved moto :S which is why I am reaching out to you guys here at XDA. Thank you for reading this post and taking your time to help.
best
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Are there more gestures?
Flick to Capture and
flick to switch between front and back cameras (from 5.1)
are the 2 gestures i know....
for Notifications in Display
check whether "Hide Notification Details" remains unchecked.
Ambient Display I havent tried...
No idea about other issues...
nijom said:
Are there more gestures?
Flick to Capture and
flick to switch between front and back cameras (from 5.1)
are the 2 gestures i know....
for Notifications in Display
check whether "Hide Notification Details" remains unchecked.
Ambient Display I havent tried...
No idea about other issues...
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i am not sure but i think its because you are in factory mode. power down your phone. and select normal power up. Hope it helps
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i am not sure but i think its because you are in factory mode. power down your phone. and select normal power up. Hope it helps
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was that meant for me?
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was that meant for me?
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Sorry. It was for OP. my bad
I am a new owner of an Lg G watch Urbane 1st edition. I have researched about screen burn in before I bought the watch and decided that it wouldn't be that horrible because of the built in burn in protection. However I am still not convinced because of claims that if a certain watch face uses to wide object the screen moving around won't move that object enough for the pixel to turn off and rest. Any of you have a good general rule of thumb what to look out for when downloading watch faces? There are some cool ones out there but could I for example use ones that have colour in them even in dimmed mode? Or should I use ones that don't? What watch faces do you use that isn't too simple but hasn't caused burn in for you?
I own the same watch and I've never had any burn in issues. I use the always on option all day and faces with big numbers and never noticed that effect (okay maybe once, but maybe it was just that one face). So as far as I'm concerned you don't need to worry about that when hunting for new faces. I use all kinds of both simple high contrast faces and very busy image based too. I'm happy that they look great and don't give me any issues. Now, have you experienced burn in or were you just curious about it?
I just got my watch yesterday and already see faint burn it... I know that is common with OLED screens.. but I want to be sure I do not do permanent damage.. I would be interested to hear what you all do to help prevent it ?
I see a setting in Developer Mode that (PREVENT BURN IN) but when I enable it.. it says "will be effective after reboot" but when I reboot it turns off... ?
I have also purchased a pre-owned LG watch urbane from ebay. It just arrived to me yesterday and I have noticed the burn in issue which has some text saying "Android wear has stopped working". This is visible when screen is bright but not visible in ambient mode and darker themes.
well luckily my faint burn in has gone away.. the biggest help was turing off Always On Display... i'm not sure if this would have been a perminent issue since i'm sure LG had this in mind when they setup the OLED display.. but I know it bugs me to see shadow images on the screen... plus I do like the lengthened battery life having it off.. 50% at the end of the day is great