WiFi Calling - Tmobile - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

WiFi Calling - Tmobile - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was wondering how wifi calling is going to work with the Nexus 6. Tmobile said that wifi calling is coming to the Nexus 6 early 2015 via an OTA update. Will the Nexus 6 from the play store also be able to receive this update and be able to use wifi calling?

raazman said:
I was wondering how wifi calling is going to work with the Nexus 6. Tmobile said that wifi calling is coming to the Nexus 6 early 2015 via an OTA update. Will the Nexus 6 from the play store also be able to receive this update and be able to use wifi calling?
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Since all the US carriers will have the same SKU, it's literally the exact same phone for all carriers. So there's no way they can tell where you purchased it, all the OTAs will be handled by Google.
What's likely happening is that Google is still finishing up the code for a generic wifi calling API (a lot of code is likely shared with VoLTE if I had to take a guess). When it detects a T-mobile SIM it will setup T-mobile's variant of wifi calling. Same for Sprint and any other carrier that rolls out wifi calling. So even if you aren't using T-mobile you'll get support for their wifi calling when that OTA is released. It just won't be activated unless you have a T-mobile SIM inserted.
It's going to be a similar case to support VoLTE on different carriers, since as of right now each implementation is incompatible with the others. It would be smart for Google to make a generic API for this so it's quicker/easier to add support for new carriers.

Ingenium13 said:
Since all the US carriers will have the same SKU, it's literally the exact same phone for all carriers. So there's no way they can tell where you purchased it, all the OTAs will be handled by Google.
What's likely happening is that Google is still finishing up the code for a generic wifi calling API (a lot of code is likely shared with VoLTE if I had to take a guess). When it detects a T-mobile SIM it will setup T-mobile's variant of wifi calling. Same for Sprint and any other carrier that rolls out wifi calling. So even if you aren't using T-mobile you'll get support for their wifi calling when that OTA is released. It just won't be activated unless you have a T-mobile SIM inserted.
It's going to be a similar case to support VoLTE on different carriers, since as of right now each implementation is incompatible with the others. It would be smart for Google to make a generic API for this so it's quicker/easier to add support for new carriers.
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Alright, that sounds pretty simple. Thanks!

On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5 by editing the Database file. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.

charesa39 said:
On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.
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I am on sprint and will get my N6 when it come out. I'm hoping they do the same for sprint as well for WiFi calling support. I know that on sprint they don't count against ur minutes or text... And sprint has unlimited LTE ...
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charesa39 said:
On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5 by editing the Database file. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.
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Why don't you use hangouts to call?

raazman said:
Why don't you use hangouts to call?
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I currently do on my N5. However, the quality is usually dependent on who I'm calling and where they are. It's rarely a problem on my end since I have really fast data connections at home and virtually anywhere I go. For example, my parents' WiFi router is in a bedroom at the opposite end of the house from where the living room is. So when I call them, even though I have a strong WiFi signal, their's isn't very good, so the call quality diminishes a bit. It would be great if I could use my WiFi signal and call their actual cell phone number (or house phone) so their is no drop in quality, without eating into my minutes.

Sprint has WiFi calling on some models already also so it's probably close to the same for all

charesa39 said:
I currently do on my N5. However, the quality is usually dependent on who I'm calling and where they are. It's rarely a problem on my end since I have really fast data connections at home and virtually anywhere I go. For example, my parents' WiFi router is in a bedroom at the opposite end of the house from where the living room is. So when I call them, even though I have a strong WiFi signal, their's isn't very good, so the call quality diminishes a bit. It would be great if I could use my WiFi signal and call their actual cell phone number (or house phone) so their is no drop in quality, without eating into my minutes.
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Use hangouts to place a call over Wi-Fi to their cell phones?

joshua.justice said:
Use hangouts to place a call over Wi-Fi to their cell phones?
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Don't you have to have a Google Voice number for that, which you have to pay for? The whole thing would be not having to pay anything more than what I'm paying now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hurting for minutes, but it would be nice to have free WiFi calling/minutes available if necessary.

charesa39 said:
Don't you have to have a Google Voice number for that, which you have to pay for? The whole thing would be not having to pay anything more than what I'm paying now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hurting for minutes, but it would be nice to have free WiFi calling/minutes available if necessary.
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It's free in the USA to call to landline.
Edit: https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3187125?hl=en

raazman said:
It's free in the USA to call to landline.
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WHAT?!?!?! I feel like my whole life has been a lie!!! Haha! But in all seriousness, I thought that was only for people with Google Voice numbers. But after doing a quick Google search, it looks like you only need a GV number to RECEIVE said calls. Wow. I feel so dumb right about now. Thanks for enlightening me, guys!

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[Q] Moto X 2014 VZW no data during call

I had the original Moto X and just got the new Moto X 2014 on Tuesday. When i'm in the middle of a phone call i get a message saying data is unavailable. During the time of the call I'm on LTE and i never had this issue with the original Moto X. Why is it different with the new Moto X. does anyone know if there is a fix?

eugene8025 said:
I had the original Moto X and just got the new Moto X 2014 on Tuesday. When i'm in the middle of a phone call i get a message saying data is unavailable. During the time of the call I'm on LTE and i never had this issue with the original Moto X. Why is it different with the new Moto X. does anyone know if there is a fix?
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Data + Voice will not be available until Verizon releases Advanced Calling 1.0 apk. Will have to use VoLTE. See article here > http://phandroid.com/2014/09/20/verizon-moto-x-launch-without-simultaneous-voice-data/

cam30era said:
Data + Voice will not be available until Verizon releases Advanced Calling 1.0 apk. Will have to use VoLTE. See article here > http://phandroid.com/2014/09/20/verizon-moto-x-launch-without-simultaneous-voice-data/
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ahh i see.. thanks for the info! much appreciated!

How will this technology work if one is driving (i.e. calling being routed through the VoIP LTE) and then geographically falls outside of an LTE zone?
I can see how this technology causes frustration. I work in Sales and am constantly holding calls via Bluetooth while driving.

Comp625 said:
How will this technology work if one is driving (i.e. calling being routed through the VoIP LTE) and then geographically falls outside of an LTE zone?
I can see how this technology causes frustration. I work in Sales and am constantly holding calls via Bluetooth while driving.
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My understanding is that your call will only be via VOLTE if you are doing voice+data. Under this circumstance, your voice call will be dropped when you are no longer within range of LTE.

cam30era said:
My understanding is that your call will only be via VOLTE if you are doing voice+data. Under this circumstance, your voice call will be dropped when you are no longer within range of LTE. On the other hand, if it is voice only (without data), it will hand off to 3G.
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Incorrect.
Straight out if verizons faq. If you enable volte (advanced calling 1.0) and place any call from a 4g area it will *always* drop if the phone moves to a 3g area.
A call placed in a 3g area will continue on 3g if you move into a LTE area (not drop).
The only way to avoid drop calls is not enable volte. in which case your new moto x will never have voice and data simultaneously.

Restola said:
Incorrect.
Straight out if verizons faq. If you enable volte (advanced calling 1.0) and place a call from a 4g area it will *always* drop if the phone moves to a 3g area.
A call placed in a 3g area will continue on 3g if you move into a LTE area (not drop).
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Thanks for setting the record straight.

cam30era said:
Thanks for setting the record straight.
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Sure thing. Verizon is not advertising that fact very well. Its frustrating because they don't have 100% LTE coverage. I will drop calls pulling into my driveway once volte is turned on...

Restola said:
Sure thing. Verizon is not advertising that fact very well. Its frustrating because they don't have 100% LTE coverage. I will drop calls pulling into my driveway once volte is turned on...
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They can stick volte, right up their a$$, its complete garbage, only works between 2 volte phones, drops calls. Yet the went ahead and gimped this device in some kind of thoughtless preparation for the half baked volte plan. Thanks Verizon for ruining data during calls. Idiots!

neh4pres said:
They can stick volte, right up their a$$, its complete garbage, only works between 2 volte phones, drops calls. Yet the went ahead and gimped this device in some kind of thoughtless preparation for the half baked volte plan. Thanks Verizon for ruining data during calls. Idiots!
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HD voice and instant video calls will only work between two volte devices. However all calls will be transmitted as data once you enable volte in your account and on your phone.

Another reason to never activate the steaming heap. Head to the country side, and data goes in and out swapping towers and landing in 1x at times. Yet in those areas regular voice services work fine. So it would be a huge downgrade for me and most people I know. Verizon is plain stupid for pulling the trigger on this. Thanks for the info, I know even better to steer clear now.

And they complained
during the switch from AMPS to CDMA, too.

So this is a very serious issue about the x2 Vzw phone?
Is this a deal breaker?

aviwdoowks said:
So this is a very serious issue about the x2 Vzw phone?
Is this a deal breaker?
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I've read that all new vzw phones will work like this. Curious to know if the note 4 has the two radios or will also rely on volte like the iPhone 6 and new Moto x do.

[Q] Wifi Calling-Is it possible to change something

My wife has poor service at her work and it seems that wifi calling/texting is blocked through the network there as it works everywhere else. The IT guy is a **** and no help. The texting part is more important., but is there a way to change the outgoing port to another that may be unblocked? I'm newer to tmobile so I'm not familiar with exactly how it works yet. I believe she is getting an error reg99 when she is on the network there. Any help or advice is much appreciated since I'm my household IT guy and I'm tired of hearing about it!

You can't do anything to change the port.
Does her phone have coverage if she leaves it in her car? She could do that and use MightyText on her desktop (if not blocked by dickish IT guy) to enable text messaging.

Bubba Fett said:
My wife has poor service at her work and it seems that wifi calling/texting is blocked through the network there as it works everywhere else. The IT guy is a **** and no help. The texting part is more important., but is there a way to change the outgoing port to another that may be unblocked? I'm newer to tmobile so I'm not familiar with exactly how it works yet. I believe she is getting an error reg99 when she is on the network there. Any help or advice is much appreciated since I'm my household IT guy and I'm tired of hearing about it!
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Try this
http://www.techooligan.com/2014/07/how-to-fix-reg99-unable-to-connect.html?m=1
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S

I wouldn't recommend that procedure seeing as your wifi calling works at other locations.

Yea I tried that. The odd thing is works at home so it almost has to be a work/network issue. I'm confused on why it would be a reg99 error though. I belive thats related to 911 address issues. Tmobile has sent 2 updates to her sim card but no change.

rcobourn said:
I wouldn't recommend that procedure seeing as your wifi calling works at other locations.
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I actually started with that process, and Tmobile updated her sim, but same thing. I was hoping there was a APN change or something to change the outgoing direction. I was unaware that wifi texting uses specific ports or maybe they block all uncommon ports on their network. It sucks cause she had a paid for unlocked ATT s4 but the service was crappy. We upgraded for the wifi calling feature and it still doesnt work. I appreciate the help.

It's take your signal booster to work day.
Have her call Tmobile and get one.
Eg
"My signals no good."
Plug it in out of site. "Behind a plant."
Have her not log into the WiFi at work.

Installing outside (non-corporate) equipment at a lot of companies is a major NON and usually grounds for a trip to HR.

Cellular repeater?

Android_Monsters said:
Cellular repeater?
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Thats an idea. They are about 100 bucks right? Passing it by HR first is definitely a good idea. Its a shame there are so many road blocks for this to work. In this case it is not necessarily Tmobiles fault. The tools are there to overcome the issue. For what its worth, I'll dig deep into options and report back in case someone else has this issue. Thanks

Bubba Fett said:
Thats an idea. They are about 100 bucks right? Passing it by HR first is definitely a good idea. Its a shame there are so many road blocks for this to work. In this case it is not necessarily Tmobiles fault. The tools are there to overcome the issue. For what its worth, I'll dig deep into options and report back in case someone else has this issue. Thanks
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You don't pay for the LTE booster, you just pay a $25 deposit until you return it and they will give it back to you. If you break it or damage it, you will pay about $100+
I have one in my room, I get full bar in my living room and 10-20 mbps but in my room I get 0 signal (they said my room is at the edge of the lte tower and edge of a 2g tower which sucks) So I tried the wifi calling router they have, didn't do any better than my regular router because my room is far from it, so I returned it.
Now that I have an LTE booster, it helped it a lot. Some days I get full LTE bars and 10mbps which is rare, most of the time it shows full LTE signal and 1.20 to 1.50 mbps, sometimes it gives me a 4g signal with slow speeds.
At the end of the day, it's t mobiles network that is the problem (I can't complain because my sister is paying for my bill and paying for my Note 4) Even with wifi calling, I would get voicemails and find out someone called me and my phone didn't even ring or give a notification. Same with an LTE booster, T mobile has great service outside the house but the only problem I have is inside buildings

btort1 said:
You don't pay for the LTE booster, you just pay a $25 deposit until you return it and they will give it back to you. If you break it or damage it, you will pay about $100+
I have one in my room, I get full bar in my living room and 10-20 mbps but in my room I get 0 signal (they said my room is at the edge of the lte tower and edge of a 2g tower which sucks) So I tried the wifi calling router they have, didn't do any better than my regular router because my room is far from it, so I returned it.
Now that I have an LTE booster, it helped it a lot. Some days I get full LTE bars and 10mbps which is rare, most of the time it shows full LTE signal and 1.20 to 1.50 mbps, sometimes it gives me a 4g signal with slow speeds.
At the end of the day, it's t mobiles network that is the problem (I can't complain because my sister is paying for my bill and paying for my Note 4) Even with wifi calling, I would get voicemails and find out someone called me and my phone didn't even ring or give a notification. Same with an LTE booster, T mobile has great service outside the house but the only problem I have is inside buildings
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Thats a great idea. I will look into that. Thank you.

I wonder if would be possible to set google voice account and send messages to that number (google voice) while she is on wifi.
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Lol WiFi at work does mean that all of data is potentially able to be packet sniffed, I.T. dept love to packet capture, lol its their job. Have you tried VPN if the work network would allow?

TechnRom said:
Lol WiFi at work does mean that all of data is potentially able to be packet sniffed, I.T. dept love to packet capture, lol its their job. Have you tried VPN if the work network would allow?
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I had considered that but I'm not really familiar with enough. I didn't know if it would work. Doesn't it also slow down the internet speeds depending on the service? If her work was close enough I would try one of the network sniffer apps to see how things were working but I'm not even sure yet what ports are strictly for wifi texts and how it differs from calling.

darekz said:
I wonder if would be possible to set google voice account and send messages to that number (google voice) while she is on wifi.
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We do just gmail eachother if its important, but texts from other people is the concern. If she doesn't go out for lunch, when she leaves its a incoming text explosion sometimes. Rarely is it an important text but you never know.

Like I said give a try to google voice. When using google voice you can send and receive texts on your desktop too.
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Urbane 2 LTE - Subcarriers

Hello just got a U2, At&t, what Sims have people been able to successfully use on it besides the att&t? Would like to connect mine cheaply. Anyone tried Mint or Project Fi?

I just got today my U2 ATT unlocked, I put in an ATT SIM and a T-Mobile SIM and both worked, and both showing LTE, although ATT held onto LTE more often, T-Mobile went down to HSPA+ or HSPA as I moved around deeper indoors.

Red pocket works for voice and text, but not data. I'm waiting on a Truphone sim to arrive as I've heard this works across the board.
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notamoosen said:
Red pocket works for voice and text, but not data. I'm waiting on a Truphone sim to arrive as I've heard this works across the board.
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I've had Truphone for a year with no issues. It should work. I tried Ting and H2O originally but had the same issue of no data. Probably an APN settings issue.

notamoosen said:
Red pocket works for voice and text, but not data. I'm waiting on a Truphone sim to arrive as I've heard this works across the board.
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I've also now ordered Truphone SIM.
I only have had my UB2 about 2 days and still learning, but know enough I think the Truphone incoming-centric cost structure probably is a good part of the solution. Thanks for advising Truphone works inside the UB2

mward1995 said:
I've had Truphone for a year with no issues. It should work. I tried Ting and H2O originally but had the same issue of no data. Probably an APN settings issue.
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Thanks for the Truphone tip, I got it and I been averaging about 2MB/day so 18c/day = $5 / month extrapolation, and so I'd struggle to find anything lower cost. What I learned is the LTE really drains battery life, about 25%/hour, vs 5%/hour on BT tether, so the idea I can spend all day out just with the UB2 is not viable so I'd be using for brief traveling light situations, popping down shops, walking the dog, that sort of thing. Around here AT&T is the best coverage. One thing i've learned however is the UB2 for some reason will lose the BT and Wifi connection and so connect to LTE so causing some demand, so I've had to disable cellular and manually enable when I intend to go away from the phone with just the UB2, that should lower my monthly cost to significantly less than $5 extrapolation.
My UB2 would be become more useful once AW2 and Android Pay comes out then it really becomes me single device to head to the local supermarket.

I use H2O Wireless for voice. Prepaid, minimum $10 for 90 days. Calls are something like 5¢ per minute, same for data & SMS. I turned data off, though, because the watch keeps hitting the data connection, running the balance down.

roebling said:
I use H2O Wireless for voice. Prepaid, minimum $10 for 90 days. Calls are something like 5¢ per minute, same for data & SMS. I turned data off, though, because the watch keeps hitting the data connection, running the balance down.
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Right, what I also found the watch keeps hitting the cellular data connection, when there is no good reason, I'd be near Wifi all the time and at most it moves from BT to Wifi but it seems to not go to Wifi, it seems to go LTE if the BT is hiccup.
So the UB2's option for cellular is very dumb, it only allows on/off, I can't say, disable LTE for data but keep the SIM on for incoming calls. So that means I must take specific action when I leave the phone behind, which is to enable cellular.

I guess data is on, it's reporting on & I don't see a setting to turn it off.
I leave my phone on 24/7: cellular on, WiFi on, Bluetooth on, data on (apparently). But I sent a text message from a Google Voice account to my watch 5 minutes ago & the watch hasn't received it so I don't know. I don't want data on it, except WiFi, so it's not been a problem for me. Bill's about $3 a month & I have coverage everywhere so I love it.
Just checked & the SMS test message did go through. Didn't alert so I didn't know it until I looked for it. Guess the volume's down.

mward1995 said:
I've had Truphone for a year with no issues. It should work. I tried Ting and H2O originally but had the same issue of no data. Probably an APN settings issue.
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Yes, the APN couldn't be modified from the watch. I am not sure if there is a small tool so that we can modify it from the paired phone.

Too bad my LG urbane 2 is being tortured atm. Will update when I get it back.
For the record, it's 200mb free each month plus calling and texting.
My total cost was $1

Drops77 said:
Too bad my LG urbane 2 is being tortured atm. Will update when I get it back.
For the record, it's 200mb free each month plus calling and texting.
My total cost was $1
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Couldn't set up APN for the Freedompop SIM card, did you?

My watch is being repaired, other places say the same. Hopefully 2.0 will bring some configuration.

Drops77 said:
My watch is being repaired, other places say the same. Hopefully 2.0 will bring some configuration.
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Unfortunately I don't think that option is available yet on 2.0 either.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidWear/comments/604p4w/any_payasyougo_sims_work_with_gsm_watches/

I didn't spot any cellular configuration options in AW2 DP

@moderator please apply lg-urbane-2 tag.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-urbane-2

damiloveu said:
Couldn't set up APN for the Freedompop SIM card, did you?
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I couldnt either. US mobile did work for me with no issue. I might try truphone, US mobile is $9 a month hopefully can average lower for the watch with truphone pay per use.

So now that 2.0 is out, I got the truphone Sim but it's not working. Any tips?

Drops77 said:
So now that 2.0 is out, I got the truphone Sim but it's not working. Any tips?
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it worked before 2.0 but not after? Or first time trying the SIM? What's not working, cellular and data?

USA Carrier Test[Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Google Fi]

This is the first time I have ever posted anything so please excuse the lack of formatting or "neatness."
First of all I want to say that every test I have done was done for a period of 3 days with each of these carriers. The test involved taking the cell phone to the city(Raleigh, NC) to a more rural area(literally anywhere not Raleigh) to test for signal strength differences, voice, and sms. Also, the phone I used is the North American model not the tencent model.
The reason I even did this is because I do not want let go of my Verizon SIM card(I still won't but there is a different reason why at the end)
OK so with that being said let's talk FUNCTIONALITY: ASUS(I have a screenshot of this) is telling me to read in between the lines and that they will push for VoLTE and VoWIFI with USA Carriers AFTER they shut down their 2g/3g Services. However right now VOLTE & VOWIFI DO NOT WORK WITH ANY CARRIER IN THE USA. The closest thing you can get to VOWIFI/VOLTE.
Verizon: Full 4G Support, Data speed and reliability FAR exceed that of AT&T or T-Mobile in RURAL areas of NC. VOICE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES DO NOT WORK ON VERIZON. If you absolutely need to stick to Verizon I have a functional work-around but it does take some time to set up(at the end of post)
AT&T: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON AT&T. If you are not tied to any carrier, I would recommend using AT&T or the best MVNO it has: Good2GO. It is on par with T-Mobile in the city, and also works fine in rural areas.
T-Mobile: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON T-Mobile. I do not recommend this unless you only live in the city and only stay in the city. Rural areas are a no-go for T-Mobile in NC(if you want more specific about which rural areas were tested lmk, but this is mostly central NC)
So I came from Verizon. What is holding me there or why would I recommend you keep it? Well, if you have a current family plan on Verizon with unlimited data, you may want to consider this too, although it is inconvenient.
Reasons to keep Verizon: Unlimited 4G LTE Data plan or an MVNO from Verizon all offer the *MOST RELIABLE* 4G LTE connection. This means that there will rarely be a place without 4G LTE on. The next best thing is AT&T, and although you may not get 4G in as many places as Verizon, it is pretty damn close. Bonus from AT&T is you can actually make calls and text, but wait.... what about 100% Verizon?
IF you reached this spot it is because you want to know the ONLY currently FUNCTIONAL workaround for this problem with no VOLTE VOWIFI or Calls or texts. The solution is to set up call forwarding to a free google voice number from the my verizon app. While you are there, you may as well want to bookmark a webpage in chrome or your browser of choice for text messages. Verizon offers a free service where you can check your texts online. This was originally intended for looking at texts on your computer, but who said you can't use it on your phone?
However, I, cannot stand the idea of being in an emergency where the 4G signal from verizon is too low to make a google voice call, and that I NEED to call someone. Therefore what I am doing is the following: Setting up the Verizon workaround for forwarding calls to the google number, setting up the text message workaround on verizon, and STILL getting an emergency $10/mo AT&T MVNO plan that has unlimited text and calls(Good2go mobile).
other AT&T MVNO's charge way more for that feature by the way. I am usually always travelling, so the amount of times I will be without 4G LTE from any carrier(T-mobile, AT&T, or Verizon) is increased exponentially. I need that backup failsafe with the AT&T MVNO.
With that being said though, if you're wondering why I didn't mention google fi, it is because this sim card 100% did not work at all in this cell phone. I tried changing the APN's and everything else under the sun but it simply did not work. Big bummer since I was hoping this would be my next daily driver for a carrier.
If there is anything else you're interested in let me know. I've had the phone for a good week now so I'm pretty comfy with the way it works and other small things.

ZyroSS said:
This is the first time I have ever posted anything so please excuse the lack of formatting or "neatness."
First of all I want to say that every test I have done was done for a period of 3 days with each of these carriers. The test involved taking the cell phone to the city(Raleigh, NC) to a more rural area(literally anywhere not Raleigh) to test for signal strength differences, voice, and sms. Also, the phone I used is the North American model not the tencent model.
The reason I even did this is because I do not want let go of my Verizon SIM card(I still won't but there is a different reason why at the end)
OK so with that being said let's talk FUNCTIONALITY: ASUS(I have a screenshot of this) is telling me to read in between the lines and that they will push for VoLTE and VoWIFI with USA Carriers AFTER they shut down their 2g/3g Services. However right now VOLTE & VOWIFI DO NOT WORK WITH ANY CARRIER IN THE USA. The closest thing you can get to VOWIFI/VOLTE.
Verizon: Full 4G Support, Data speed and reliability FAR exceed that of AT&T or T-Mobile in RURAL areas of NC. VOICE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES DO NOT WORK ON VERIZON. If you absolutely need to stick to Verizon I have a functional work-around but it does take some time to set up(at the end of post)
AT&T: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON AT&T. If you are not tied to any carrier, I would recommend using AT&T or the best MVNO it has: Good2GO. It is on par with T-Mobile in the city, and also works fine in rural areas.
T-Mobile: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON T-Mobile. I do not recommend this unless you only live in the city and only stay in the city. Rural areas are a no-go for T-Mobile in NC(if you want more specific about which rural areas were tested lmk, but this is mostly central NC)
So I came from Verizon. What is holding me there or why would I recommend you keep it? Well, if you have a current family plan on Verizon with unlimited data, you may want to consider this too, although it is inconvenient.
Reasons to keep Verizon: Unlimited 4G LTE Data plan or an MVNO from Verizon all offer the *MOST RELIABLE* 4G LTE connection. This means that there will rarely be a place without 4G LTE on. The next best thing is AT&T, and although you may not get 4G in as many places as Verizon, it is pretty damn close. Bonus from AT&T is you can actually make calls and text, but wait.... what about 100% Verizon?
IF you reached this spot it is because you want to know the ONLY currently FUNCTIONAL workaround for this problem with no VOLTE VOWIFI or Calls or texts. The solution is to set up call forwarding to a free google voice number from the my verizon app. While you are there, you may as well want to bookmark a webpage in chrome or your browser of choice for text messages. Verizon offers a free service where you can check your texts online. This was originally intended for looking at texts on your computer, but who said you can't use it on your phone?
However, I, cannot stand the idea of being in an emergency where the 4G signal from verizon is too low to make a google voice call, and that I NEED to call someone. Therefore what I am doing is the following: Setting up the Verizon workaround for forwarding calls to the google number, setting up the text message workaround on verizon, and STILL getting an emergency $10/mo AT&T MVNO plan that has unlimited text and calls(Good2go mobile).
other AT&T MVNO's charge way more for that feature by the way. I am usually always travelling, so the amount of times I will be without 4G LTE from any carrier(T-mobile, AT&T, or Verizon) is increased exponentially. I need that backup failsafe with the AT&T MVNO.
With that being said though, if you're wondering why I didn't mention google fi, it is because this sim card 100% did not work at all in this cell phone. I tried changing the APN's and everything else under the sun but it simply did not work. Big bummer since I was hoping this would be my next daily driver for a carrier.
If there is anything else you're interested in let me know. I've had the phone for a good week now so I'm pretty comfy with the way it works and other small things.
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Did you try CDMA_Less on Verizon?

tech_head said:
Did you try CDMA_Less on Verizon?
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Yes, didn't work

So this is all true for the international version, but not for the Tencent edition. Tencent version only supports bands 1-4 and pretty much nothing else. Those are the old school bands for AT&T and TMobile, so signal is ok but not great. Indoors TMobile is pretty bad with the Tencent phone, whereas I get fantastic signal with my OnePlus 7 pro in the same places on TMobile.
Damn shame, other than that the rog2 is better in every way and I'm going to miss it dearly but I've got a 1 year old and not having a cell signal at home or work is not an option.

cyagl643 said:
Are there any other downsides, because im thinking even if going overseas you can use it like Vowifi because as long as you have some kind of connection via wifi or data you should get calls and texts via the app.
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I'm considering this method as well. I'm a trucker, so network coverage is a deal breaker for which carrier I use, and no one comes close to Verizon. My big concern now is how 911 would work. I know I couldn't do it via Google Voice, but I'm wondering if the phone would default back to the phone radio and seek out a usable network. I know cell phones are required be able to make 911 calls from any available network in the U.S, even if not activated with a carrier. So would the phone make a 911 call via AT&T or TMO?
If I go through with it, I may do it a slightly different way. I have a spare line I could cancel. Instead, I may activate the ROG II to that one, then port my existing number to GV. That way I could use GV but as my current number. I figure that would be easiest on those with my contact info.

Its a dual sim phone. Why not have Verizon and a GSM MVPN? Straight talk has some call only plans for $20/month.

bruciebabie1963 said:
Its a dual sim phone. Why not have Verizon and a GSM MVPN? Straight talk has some call only plans for $20/month.
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And what happens when the gsm(3g) gets turned off in beginning of 2020? Asus seriously f'd up not allowing volte.

homerunbm33 said:
So I have att and really would like to get this phone but concerned about any possible issues(for example no band 14 and 30) . Did you have any issues with service with att? I'm considering the rog, op7t or pixel 4. Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
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No, I had no real issues with AT&T, it's the reason I'm getting my 2nd sim to be an MVNO for this phone. 1 Carrier only AT&T is simply the best overall for this phone. If we say Verizon is 100% 4G LTE strength/reliabililty, then AT&T is like 90%, while AT&T is 60%. This is of course in more rural areas. In the city it matters not if you have AT&T or T-Mobile...

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The Verizon idea sounds like a great workaround because you can also download the My Messages app at the play store and it works the same as the website. The only downside, and correct me if Im wrong would be when calling people they would see your google number and not your real cell number. Are there any other downsides, because im thinking even if going overseas you can use it like Vowifi because as long as you have some kind of connection via wifi or data you should get calls and texts via the app.
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I'm afraid you can't use the app it just doesn't work I tried this... maybe it'll work for you though? Otherwise yes, they would get a call from another number(the google number) and they can call either your google number or verizon number and both will work. it's more of there so you don't inconvenience your contacts, but you should probably tell them you simply switched to (google number) and to just call/text there if you're sticking to verizon only, imo.
otherwise yes the app itself only needs data it doesnt matter if you grab data from ethernet(works), 4G, or wifi...

Mr_Mooncatt said:
I'm considering this method as well. I'm a trucker, so network coverage is a deal breaker for which carrier I use, and no one comes close to Verizon. My big concern now is how 911 would work. I know I couldn't do it via Google Voice, but I'm wondering if the phone would default back to the phone radio and seek out a usable network. I know cell phones are required be able to make 911 calls from any available network in the U.S, even if not activated with a carrier. So would the phone make a 911 call via AT&T or TMO?
If I go through with it, I may do it a slightly different way. I have a spare line I could cancel. Instead, I may activate the ROG II to that one, then port my existing number to GV. That way I could use GV but as my current number. I figure that would be easiest on those with my contact info.
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Technically speaking 911 SHOULD work, but I'm not about to get in trouble trying that one out LOL. I have a backup emergency cell phone line for those emergencies since I also, cannot stand not being able to have that option even if the chances are slim. I am also keeping Verizon because it simply has the strongest 4G signal of the USA carriers that I tested, however AT&T isn't too far behind it's definitely good, just not great. AT&T gets calls and texts by default too so theres that as well lol

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Its a dual sim phone. Why not have Verizon and a GSM MVPN? Straight talk has some call only plans for $20/month.
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This is exactly what I did. I purchased a plan $10/mo for unlimited calls/texts through Good2go mobile, an AT&T MVNO...

ZyroSS said:
This is exactly what I did. I purchased a plan $10/mo for unlimited calls/texts through Good2go mobile, an AT&T MVNO...
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I may consider this as well. I'll likely run it Verizon only with the work around and see how it goes before adding a second SIM.
As for 911, I think I may be able to contact a local 911 operator and see what info I can glean from them.
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I did find this, which includes some info both on how 911 works with un-activated phones, and how to make a test call.
https://www.911.gov/frequently_asked_questions.html

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I'm afraid you can't use the app it just doesn't work I tried this... maybe it'll work for you though? Otherwise yes, they would get a call from another number(the google number) and they can call either your google number or verizon number and both will work. it's more of there so you don't inconvenience your contacts, but you should probably tell them you simply switched to (google number) and to just call/text there if you're sticking to verizon only, imo.
otherwise yes the app itself only needs data it doesnt matter if you grab data from ethernet(works), 4G, or wifi...
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I mean I tried the app on the current phone I have with wifi calling off and airplane mode on, and had someone text me and I got it.

Hey, so I've tried everything I read online to forward my calls to Google voice. I have Verizon. I've tried both *72 and *73. I've made sure to not have any forwarding set up on GV so I'm not in an infinite forwarding loop. But no matter what, it seems the calls straight to GV voicemail. Is there something I'm missing? I've also tried it with my Verizon number linked and after I deleted it. Any help would be much appreciated. thank you

Drkstover said:
Hey, so I've tried everything I read online to forward my calls to Google voice. I have Verizon. I've tried both *72 and *73. I've made sure to not have any forwarding set up on GV so I'm not in an infinite forwarding loop. But no matter what, it seems the calls straight to GV voicemail. Is there something I'm missing? I've also tried it with my Verizon number linked and after I deleted it. Any help would be much appreciated. thank you
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I called Verizon and had them forward my calls to my GV # and it works fine.

AVJ1221 said:
I called Verizon and had them forward my calls to my GV # and it works fine.
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What app are you using for GV calls? Google Voice app doesn't ring for me...

ram4ufriends said:
What app are you using for GV calls? Google Voice app doesn't ring for me...
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Try restarting your phone. Sometimes GV gets buggy for some unknown reason. I also have Hangouts and Hangouts dialer downloaded so Google assistant can make calls when I ask. I believe GV can dial out through dialer as well.
And make sure to allow GV and any other calling app you're using to auto start in your phone settings.

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This is exactly what I did. I purchased a plan $10/mo for unlimited calls/texts through Good2go mobile, an AT&T MVNO...
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How is Good2go working for you?
Any problems in calls/texts?
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Unable to get wi-fi calling activated on Straight Talk network

Just got my Pixel 5 today and in reading up on it I discovered it has wi-fi calling capabilities. While this wasn't something I was actively looking for, it would be nice to have as the finished basement of our new house doesn't really get cellular signals, and even the rest of the house doesn't have the greatest cellular connection.
I do have wi-fi all throughout the house though, so if I could enable this feature it would be a bonus. I'm on Straight Talk, using the AT&T towers, and I'm just wondering if anyone has had any luck getting this feature activated with them. I've tried using their automated tool to see if the phone is capable, but it's telling me no. I don't see any options looking through the phone settings, and looking around on the ST site they don't mention the Pixel 5 in their FAQ section.
So is this phone feature only available on certain carriers? Do I need to get an updated SIM from Straight Talk (the one I'm using I've had for about 4-5 years or so)? Any help would be appreciated.

AT&T is very particular about what devices can use VoLTE and VoWIFI. i've found occasional workarounds, but for the most part you need an AT&T branded device for those features. AT&T has a running list of provisioned devices.
I'm afraid you are probably out of luck on this.

Too bad to hear this. Luckily, I've been surprised to find that I'm able to actually make and receive calls, at least in the main living area of the basement, so everything worked out okay in the end.

I can't promise you that it will work but from experience I'm pretty sure ..... If you can get customer support at ATT to provision your account for wifi calling AND put a dummy IMEI in your acct from a device that does wifi calling (one that is whitelisted by ATT) the wifi calling will work ..
I have done this many many times. The dummy IMEI had actually never been needed with pixel devices though, for me

jcrompton said:
I can't promise you that it will work but from experience I'm pretty sure ..... If you can get customer support at ATT to provision your account for wifi calling AND put a dummy IMEI in your acct from a device that does wifi calling (one that is whitelisted by ATT) the wifi calling will work ..
I have done this many many times. The dummy IMEI had actually never been needed with pixel devices though, for me
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Would that even work in my case though, since I'm not an AT&T customer? I have Straight Talk, which is using the AT&T bands/towers, but I'm not technically with AT&T.

Geese1 said:
Would that even work in my case though, since I'm not an AT&T customer? I have Straight Talk, which is using the AT&T bands/towers, but I'm not technically with AT&T.
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Not sure if calling Straight talk sand using an IMEI from a phone that normally does wifi calling with ATT would work or not. Go to an att and copy the IMEI of a demo phone then call straight talk and switch to that phone

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Not sure if calling Straight talk sand using an IMEI from a phone that normally does wifi calling with ATT would work or not. Go to an att and copy the IMEI of a demo phone then call straight talk and switch to that phone
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I may have to try that if it really starts becoming a problem. Surprisingly, as I mentioned above, I can actually make and receive calls in the main part of the basement. Maybe because it is the house above us, and not mostly the garage/solid cement like in the other portion where I was having trouble before, I'm not sure. It's pretty much just storage rooms in that section of the basement anyway, although that is where the internet comes in and the modem is located (the house is fully wired for internet, so I have a switch that feeds out from the basement to go throughout the house). Only time it would really become a concern is if I have to be on the phone with our internet provider while simultaneously working on the router or modem. Barring that, the phone seems to work fine throughout the majority of the basement, which wasn't what I was expecting.

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