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Which is the best US provider to use with the imported Diamond2?

Hey guys,
I was wondering, which one of the different US providers would you recommend to use with an imported unlocked diamond2?
I'm currently with AT&T, and I'm having a lot of issues to connect to MediaNet... For some unknown reason, the phone looses its connection:
- every single time after either a reboot or using wifi
- on time to time, randomly without any specific reason
My main concern being: it's a pain to get it back! It takes several reboot and retry to re-setup the data connection.
I was wondering if some of you have actually experience better result with other provider or even with AT&T... (note: i m on a pay-as-you-go plan for phone and data)
Thanks,
Kandjar

I, too, am using Diamond2 with ATT and I'm ok with it. Granted, I've given up trying to use MediaNet on this phone but not really missing it.

I'm on T-mobile with the $5.99 unlimited data (T-Mobile Web). It's now $9.99 Web2Go if you are starting a new contract with limited data. Everything is working fine and the other day I got my email working on the diamond2 through the $5.99 plan.
No connection problems at all.

Same here with T-Mobile and the T-Zones plan, my call quality is pretty good with no drops & edge has descent speeds.

Wow, ok, once my pay-as-you-go expired, I'll definitively check T-Mobile!
AT&T data plan is slow and not very stable for me...
The main reason I need it is: mails!
I got so addicted to the 'read mail everywhere' plan, it's scary... When it doesn't work, it's bugging the heck out of me
I found in the 'phone setting' that it's possible to change the baseband; so instead of having them set to 'auto', I'm trying to force them to be:
'gsm' and '1900+850' to see if there is any improvements.
In any case T-Mobile does sound a lot cheaper...
I m currently paying $100 for 400 minutes (good for a year) and $20/month for 100MB... That's about $30/months.
Thanks for the replies

wbaez0320 said:
Same here with T-Mobile and the T-Zones plan, my call quality is pretty good with no drops & edge has descent speeds.
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Edge on T-mo has really good speeds here in CO. That's why I don't mind not having 3G. Soon enough manufacturers will be making quadband 3g handsets. I hope.
Any who kandjar if you need help with the data settings if and when you switch to T-mo just post up. If you search google for T-mobile wireless configurator you can get the settings by selecting any WinMo phone in the list ut you have to change some things.
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Disregard that last part about the configurator. The D2 finds the settings automagically for you. But you still have to change 1 or 2 things so it'll work.

That's cool, thanks!
By the way: does the youtube app work with T-Mobile?
It doesn't seem to work at all with AT&T...
Or does it only work with 3g?

kandjar said:
That's cool, thanks!
By the way: does the youtube app work with T-Mobile?
It doesn't seem to work at all with AT&T...
Or does it only work with 3g?
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Youtube worked on my Diamond2 with ATT. I don't have a data package with ATT, but I have wifi in my complex and I can watch Youtube on the Wifi.
As well as sending/receiving emails.

True, I should have been a bit more explicit..
I also managed to get it to work through wifi...
I m just wondering if this work with data plan (through medianet ...)

kandjar said:
True, I should have been a bit more explicit..
I also managed to get it to work through wifi...
I m just wondering if this work with data plan (through medianet ...)
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Yes it works fine on T-mobile edge. Maybe AT&T edge is a bit slow? IDK? This is on T-zones might I add. Not T-mobiles full web service. Who needs that with opera available?

Lycamobile

If you haven't heard of LycaMobile...It's a T-Mobile MNVO..
My AHD is Carrier Unlocked so I can use AT&T or T-Mobile, I got tired of paying 45+taxes for StraightTalk (AT&T) since I am mostly on wifi and don't really need the speed when I am not...
so i bought an unlock code and switched to Ultramobile last month because of their 19$ plan but they only give you 50mb of data
that was an issue for me and I didn't want to pay 39$ for their unlimited 2g when I could get GoSmart for 35$...
The other day I learned Lyca has the same plan as Gosmart but for 29$ (unlimited talk,text and 2g)
I waited too long to port my number from Ultra and lost it....
I've had Lyca service less then 2 hours and so far the only problem I had is their porting process,
It wasn't as fast as it was for me when I ported from other companies....
I've ported my number to and from a few companies and it always took less then 10 hours
I stupidly assumed 12 hours would be enough this time aswell,
Anyway 29$ sounds like a great deal I just hope I don't end up having issues with their service,
I figured I'd let people in the AHD section know about Lyca and post updates if I have any problems.
Maybe others have had experience with Lycamobile .
Apn settings i use
Name:lycamobile
APN:data.lycamobile.com
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Proxy:Not set
Port:Not set
Username:lmus
Password:lmus
Server:Not set
MMSC:Not set
MMS port:Not set
Auth Type:Not set
Apn Type:Not set
Update: 8/4/13
I've had lyca for almost 7 days now and at first I was having signal issues at home and it made it hard to have long text messages it was annoying, texts would get stuck at sending but seems good now after i went to Holoblur from Liquidsmooth.
Originally i thought lyca went to unlimited 2g after the first 50mb but turns out it's 3g.
To to be sure i downloaded a 100mb video last night, at 1.5-2mb which seems to be my average data speed on lyca since day 1... anyway i'm still getting 1.5-2mb on speedtest.net today so Lyca is even more worth it for me now that i know it's unlimited 3g instead of a slow 2g..
I used to use testmy.net in the browser but for some reason after i flashed holoblur 0.9 last night testmy.net says Forbidden.
So at the moment the only issue I have with Lyca is that they don't have mms but i can live with that if my data speeds stay at at least 800kbs.
I also forgot to backup my contacts when i flashed holoblur 0.9 last night , I had 2 contacts i had added that day...I am lucky Lyca keeps a call log online.
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Sounds good. Although do they have any 3G plans.
I don't mind a 250mb 3G plan vs unlimited 2G

http://www.lycamobile.us/en/national-plans
It's a similar concept to T-Mobile's in that you get an allotment of 4G (3G) data and then it goes to 2G speed. Looks very interesting. Thinking of switching to their 1GB plan after I use up all my T-Mobile credit. The $20 credit for international calls is a winner for me. I assume there's no LTE,

I just saw a guy handing out lycamobile booklets, I told him have the service we talked a minute..I mentioned my plan and 2g ..he claimed it goes to 3g after that 50mb of 4g...I hope that's true. 3g is like up to 800kbs or something iirc...so that would be great.

That sounds like a pretty sweet phone plan. I might switch over to it once my contract ends. Do let us know if there are any problems you may run into.:good:

I've had lyca for almost 7 days now and at first I was having signal issues at home and it made it hard to have long text messages it was annoying, texts would get stuck at sending but seems good now after i went to Holoblur from Liquidsmooth.
And I hardly use data but i was pretty sure i had used more then 50mb, but to be sure i downloaded a 100mb video last night, at 1.5-2mb which seems to be my average data speed on lyca since day 1... anyway i'm still getting 1.5-2mb on speedtest.net today.. i used to use testmy.net but for some reason after i flashed holoblur 0.9 last night testmy.net says Forbidden.
So at the moment the only issue I have with Lyca is that they don't have mms but i can live with that if my data speeds stay at at least 800kbs.

1 month of service and I'm happy so far, feels like as time goes by my service becomes more stable. The first 2 weeks I was losing service often and had problems sending texts and had a few calls drop.. but been good the past week or so.

Gave them a try as well. I only used them temporarily to place international calls but the one time that I did it whle driving I didn't see any difference with the T-Mobile service. So far,
- Call quality to landlines in Europe was excellent.
- Call quality to cell phones in Europe was decent. On a single incidence the volume was too loud and it distorted. I don't think this was Lycamobile's problem.
- I can't get the online recharge to work. I enter all my info and at the end I get the message the transaction failed. I see the temporary authorization on my credit card, and it later goes away. I was only able to add credit by going to a local cell phone store.
- Customer service is in India. They are not allowed to request credit card information, so they couldn't do the recharge.
- Online customer service only got me the autorespond email and nothing after that.
- Calls (pay as you go) are charged at 20+ seconds longer than the call as timed by the phone itself.
- The sim card doesn't have the APN info for data. I didn't want to use data, so I didn't enter an APN.
- International roaming in Europe worked fine and at 46¢/min it beats AT&T and T-Mobile's $1.29, $1.39 or $1.79, and matches what European pay as you go carriers charge when roaming within Europe.
Given that I couldn't get any credit card to process on their website, I couldn't buy a sim card from their website either. One store sold them for $10, another for $5, and they go for 99¢ on eBay.
I think I'm going to try h2o next. Their $49/mo plans are very comparable: unlimited voice, domestic and international texts, 1GB data. Lycamoble gives $20 credit for international calls (1¢/min land-8¢/min cell in Europe) whereas h2o has unlimited landline (certain countries) and gives $40 credit for 20-30¢/min (in Europe) calls to cell phones. h2o also has mms but doesn't roam internationally.

Lyca sends free sims. And the first time I called customer support the person sounded Indian but every time after that I have gotten customer support from the UK.

skuly said:
Lyca sends free sims. And the first time I called customer support the person sounded Indian but every time after that I have gotten customer support from the UK.
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Sims are free but they charge $7 for shipping and handling.

diamond12 said:
Sims are free but they charge $7 for shipping and handling.
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Oh thats new..there wasn't a shipping fee ...but you can get them for a dollar or less from amazon or eBay .

Updates:
- Online recharge works for me now
- Lycamoble responded via email that calls are billed from the time the call is placed (including ring time)

skuly said:
Oh thats new..there wasn't a shipping fee ...but you can get them for a dollar or less from amazon or eBay .
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yeah i also get mine for free about a month ago, happy w the service so far! :good::good:

They did end up losing some text messages for me. I confirmed that these were sent as SMS and not MMS.
Also, they automatically put me on the $39 plan without me doing so, when I added $40 credit in my account. Even though I requested to cancel the auto-renew and got the confirmation text, I still got a text on the renewal date that there were insufficient funds to renew my plan.
Other annoyances:
There is no voicemail integration. I never got the voicemail notification icon when I had voicemail. They sent a text message instead. Also, the voicemail service number did not get automatically integrated and I had to program it myself.
My number did not show in the phone info screen. Instead it showed +10000000000.

diamond12 said:
They did end up losing some text messages for me. I confirmed that these were sent as SMS and not MMS.
Also, they automatically put me on the $39 plan without me doing so, when I added $40 credit in my account. Even though I requested to cancel the auto-renew and got the confirmation text, I still got a text on the renewal date that there were insufficient funds to renew my plan.
Other annoyances:
There is no voicemail integration. I never got the voicemail notification icon when I had voicemail. They sent a text message instead. Also, the voicemail service number did not get automatically integrated and I had to program it myself.
My number did not show in the phone info screen. Instead it showed +10000000000.
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I also noticed international SMS plan doesn't work or I'm using some other APN settings. Can anyone confirm?
I'm using Google voice so MMS is no big deal for me actually. I don't use anyways lol.
I also don't what why the number appears like that but they have a dial up combination that shows the number on your screen, I guess it was *613#
And my phone always shows R (stands for roaming) and doesn't show the data speed letter like 4g 3g etc
Did anyone have the same issue too?
Note: I currently break my Atrix HD these were the issues I faced when it was working.
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I used the 29$ plan for a few months and it was good service, i hardly use my phone so i stopped using a plan a few months ago and i had like 17$ on my account, atm it's only down to $8, at 2c per min ,since i don't text i am only paying a few $ a month for my service.

legendnexus said:
I also noticed international SMS plan doesn't work or I'm using some other APN settings. Can anyone confirm?
And my phone always shows R (stands for roaming) and doesn't show the data speed letter like 4g 3g etc
Did anyone have the same issue too?
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I didn't have either of these issues.

diamond12 said:
I didn't have either of these issues.
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Can you share your APN settings?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

I switched to Spot Mobile yesterday so I can't see on my phone now but I had the recommended settings on the Lycamobile page:
APN: data.lycamobile.com
Username: lmus
Password: plus
APN Type: default,supl,admin,dun
Everything else blank.

Hi all,
does anyone using Lycamobile UK with ZOPO ZP700 ?
I can not get internet working with this phone (android 4.2)
I have set all as it should be but with no result.
Thanks for the info

WiFi Calling - Tmobile

I was wondering how wifi calling is going to work with the Nexus 6. Tmobile said that wifi calling is coming to the Nexus 6 early 2015 via an OTA update. Will the Nexus 6 from the play store also be able to receive this update and be able to use wifi calling?

raazman said:
I was wondering how wifi calling is going to work with the Nexus 6. Tmobile said that wifi calling is coming to the Nexus 6 early 2015 via an OTA update. Will the Nexus 6 from the play store also be able to receive this update and be able to use wifi calling?
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Since all the US carriers will have the same SKU, it's literally the exact same phone for all carriers. So there's no way they can tell where you purchased it, all the OTAs will be handled by Google.
What's likely happening is that Google is still finishing up the code for a generic wifi calling API (a lot of code is likely shared with VoLTE if I had to take a guess). When it detects a T-mobile SIM it will setup T-mobile's variant of wifi calling. Same for Sprint and any other carrier that rolls out wifi calling. So even if you aren't using T-mobile you'll get support for their wifi calling when that OTA is released. It just won't be activated unless you have a T-mobile SIM inserted.
It's going to be a similar case to support VoLTE on different carriers, since as of right now each implementation is incompatible with the others. It would be smart for Google to make a generic API for this so it's quicker/easier to add support for new carriers.

Ingenium13 said:
Since all the US carriers will have the same SKU, it's literally the exact same phone for all carriers. So there's no way they can tell where you purchased it, all the OTAs will be handled by Google.
What's likely happening is that Google is still finishing up the code for a generic wifi calling API (a lot of code is likely shared with VoLTE if I had to take a guess). When it detects a T-mobile SIM it will setup T-mobile's variant of wifi calling. Same for Sprint and any other carrier that rolls out wifi calling. So even if you aren't using T-mobile you'll get support for their wifi calling when that OTA is released. It just won't be activated unless you have a T-mobile SIM inserted.
It's going to be a similar case to support VoLTE on different carriers, since as of right now each implementation is incompatible with the others. It would be smart for Google to make a generic API for this so it's quicker/easier to add support for new carriers.
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Alright, that sounds pretty simple. Thanks!

On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5 by editing the Database file. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.

charesa39 said:
On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.
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I am on sprint and will get my N6 when it come out. I'm hoping they do the same for sprint as well for WiFi calling support. I know that on sprint they don't count against ur minutes or text... And sprint has unlimited LTE ...
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charesa39 said:
On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5 by editing the Database file. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.
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Why don't you use hangouts to call?

raazman said:
Why don't you use hangouts to call?
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I currently do on my N5. However, the quality is usually dependent on who I'm calling and where they are. It's rarely a problem on my end since I have really fast data connections at home and virtually anywhere I go. For example, my parents' WiFi router is in a bedroom at the opposite end of the house from where the living room is. So when I call them, even though I have a strong WiFi signal, their's isn't very good, so the call quality diminishes a bit. It would be great if I could use my WiFi signal and call their actual cell phone number (or house phone) so their is no drop in quality, without eating into my minutes.

Sprint has WiFi calling on some models already also so it's probably close to the same for all

charesa39 said:
I currently do on my N5. However, the quality is usually dependent on who I'm calling and where they are. It's rarely a problem on my end since I have really fast data connections at home and virtually anywhere I go. For example, my parents' WiFi router is in a bedroom at the opposite end of the house from where the living room is. So when I call them, even though I have a strong WiFi signal, their's isn't very good, so the call quality diminishes a bit. It would be great if I could use my WiFi signal and call their actual cell phone number (or house phone) so their is no drop in quality, without eating into my minutes.
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Use hangouts to place a call over Wi-Fi to their cell phones?

joshua.justice said:
Use hangouts to place a call over Wi-Fi to their cell phones?
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Don't you have to have a Google Voice number for that, which you have to pay for? The whole thing would be not having to pay anything more than what I'm paying now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hurting for minutes, but it would be nice to have free WiFi calling/minutes available if necessary.

charesa39 said:
Don't you have to have a Google Voice number for that, which you have to pay for? The whole thing would be not having to pay anything more than what I'm paying now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hurting for minutes, but it would be nice to have free WiFi calling/minutes available if necessary.
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It's free in the USA to call to landline.
Edit: https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3187125?hl=en

raazman said:
It's free in the USA to call to landline.
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WHAT?!?!?! I feel like my whole life has been a lie!!! Haha! But in all seriousness, I thought that was only for people with Google Voice numbers. But after doing a quick Google search, it looks like you only need a GV number to RECEIVE said calls. Wow. I feel so dumb right about now. Thanks for enlightening me, guys!

[Q] Wifi Calling-Is it possible to change something

My wife has poor service at her work and it seems that wifi calling/texting is blocked through the network there as it works everywhere else. The IT guy is a **** and no help. The texting part is more important., but is there a way to change the outgoing port to another that may be unblocked? I'm newer to tmobile so I'm not familiar with exactly how it works yet. I believe she is getting an error reg99 when she is on the network there. Any help or advice is much appreciated since I'm my household IT guy and I'm tired of hearing about it!

You can't do anything to change the port.
Does her phone have coverage if she leaves it in her car? She could do that and use MightyText on her desktop (if not blocked by dickish IT guy) to enable text messaging.

Bubba Fett said:
My wife has poor service at her work and it seems that wifi calling/texting is blocked through the network there as it works everywhere else. The IT guy is a **** and no help. The texting part is more important., but is there a way to change the outgoing port to another that may be unblocked? I'm newer to tmobile so I'm not familiar with exactly how it works yet. I believe she is getting an error reg99 when she is on the network there. Any help or advice is much appreciated since I'm my household IT guy and I'm tired of hearing about it!
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Try this
http://www.techooligan.com/2014/07/how-to-fix-reg99-unable-to-connect.html?m=1
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S

I wouldn't recommend that procedure seeing as your wifi calling works at other locations.

Yea I tried that. The odd thing is works at home so it almost has to be a work/network issue. I'm confused on why it would be a reg99 error though. I belive thats related to 911 address issues. Tmobile has sent 2 updates to her sim card but no change.

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I wouldn't recommend that procedure seeing as your wifi calling works at other locations.
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I actually started with that process, and Tmobile updated her sim, but same thing. I was hoping there was a APN change or something to change the outgoing direction. I was unaware that wifi texting uses specific ports or maybe they block all uncommon ports on their network. It sucks cause she had a paid for unlocked ATT s4 but the service was crappy. We upgraded for the wifi calling feature and it still doesnt work. I appreciate the help.

It's take your signal booster to work day.
Have her call Tmobile and get one.
Eg
"My signals no good."
Plug it in out of site. "Behind a plant."
Have her not log into the WiFi at work.

Installing outside (non-corporate) equipment at a lot of companies is a major NON and usually grounds for a trip to HR.

Cellular repeater?

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Cellular repeater?
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Thats an idea. They are about 100 bucks right? Passing it by HR first is definitely a good idea. Its a shame there are so many road blocks for this to work. In this case it is not necessarily Tmobiles fault. The tools are there to overcome the issue. For what its worth, I'll dig deep into options and report back in case someone else has this issue. Thanks

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Thats an idea. They are about 100 bucks right? Passing it by HR first is definitely a good idea. Its a shame there are so many road blocks for this to work. In this case it is not necessarily Tmobiles fault. The tools are there to overcome the issue. For what its worth, I'll dig deep into options and report back in case someone else has this issue. Thanks
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You don't pay for the LTE booster, you just pay a $25 deposit until you return it and they will give it back to you. If you break it or damage it, you will pay about $100+
I have one in my room, I get full bar in my living room and 10-20 mbps but in my room I get 0 signal (they said my room is at the edge of the lte tower and edge of a 2g tower which sucks) So I tried the wifi calling router they have, didn't do any better than my regular router because my room is far from it, so I returned it.
Now that I have an LTE booster, it helped it a lot. Some days I get full LTE bars and 10mbps which is rare, most of the time it shows full LTE signal and 1.20 to 1.50 mbps, sometimes it gives me a 4g signal with slow speeds.
At the end of the day, it's t mobiles network that is the problem (I can't complain because my sister is paying for my bill and paying for my Note 4) Even with wifi calling, I would get voicemails and find out someone called me and my phone didn't even ring or give a notification. Same with an LTE booster, T mobile has great service outside the house but the only problem I have is inside buildings

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You don't pay for the LTE booster, you just pay a $25 deposit until you return it and they will give it back to you. If you break it or damage it, you will pay about $100+
I have one in my room, I get full bar in my living room and 10-20 mbps but in my room I get 0 signal (they said my room is at the edge of the lte tower and edge of a 2g tower which sucks) So I tried the wifi calling router they have, didn't do any better than my regular router because my room is far from it, so I returned it.
Now that I have an LTE booster, it helped it a lot. Some days I get full LTE bars and 10mbps which is rare, most of the time it shows full LTE signal and 1.20 to 1.50 mbps, sometimes it gives me a 4g signal with slow speeds.
At the end of the day, it's t mobiles network that is the problem (I can't complain because my sister is paying for my bill and paying for my Note 4) Even with wifi calling, I would get voicemails and find out someone called me and my phone didn't even ring or give a notification. Same with an LTE booster, T mobile has great service outside the house but the only problem I have is inside buildings
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Thats a great idea. I will look into that. Thank you.

I wonder if would be possible to set google voice account and send messages to that number (google voice) while she is on wifi.
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Lol WiFi at work does mean that all of data is potentially able to be packet sniffed, I.T. dept love to packet capture, lol its their job. Have you tried VPN if the work network would allow?

TechnRom said:
Lol WiFi at work does mean that all of data is potentially able to be packet sniffed, I.T. dept love to packet capture, lol its their job. Have you tried VPN if the work network would allow?
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I had considered that but I'm not really familiar with enough. I didn't know if it would work. Doesn't it also slow down the internet speeds depending on the service? If her work was close enough I would try one of the network sniffer apps to see how things were working but I'm not even sure yet what ports are strictly for wifi texts and how it differs from calling.

darekz said:
I wonder if would be possible to set google voice account and send messages to that number (google voice) while she is on wifi.
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We do just gmail eachother if its important, but texts from other people is the concern. If she doesn't go out for lunch, when she leaves its a incoming text explosion sometimes. Rarely is it an important text but you never know.

Like I said give a try to google voice. When using google voice you can send and receive texts on your desktop too.
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Urbane 2 LTE not working

Hello All I purchased a refurbished Urbane 2 LTE (W200A) from here .
I put in a T-Mobil SIM but it will not work, under SIM status says out of service, T-Mobil checked the IMEI # and says it is fine but might be carrier locked?
Any thoughts/ideas on this issue?
Cheers,

rweddy1 said:
Hello All I purchased a refurbished Urbane 2 LTE (W200A) from here .
I put in a T-Mobil SIM but it will not work, under SIM status says out of service, T-Mobil checked the IMEI # and says it is fine but might be carrier locked?
Any thoughts/ideas on this issue?
Cheers,
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Welcome! I've had mine now about 2 weeks.
I bought an UB2 which was unlocked.
I had the same problem. Reboot the watch made it work in my case.
I have a T-Mobile and ATT SIMs. The ATT SIM worked right away, the T-Mobile would not work right away but rebooting the watch made it work. Now that could have been coincidence, say T-Mobile takes a while before it lets an unknown IMEI into its network?
Hopefully that fixes it for you.
Next, I spent a time experimenting, moving around with the ATT and T-Mobile SIMs. I found the lack of the lower frequency bands meant it often ends up easily offline, not even 2G, that problem was more common on T-Mobile than it was on ATT.
I also found when using LTE the battery is pretty bad, whilst BT or Wifi tethered to the mobile I lose about 5% an hour, so does a reasonable job of lasting through the day, on LTE I was losing 25% an hour so 4 hours. Once I learned that, meant I'd not really be away from my phone for long periods, so I now know its more for brief periods when not having the phone is helpful. The classic use case would be running,, or short bike rides. Therefore I'd be really using it in case someone was to phone me (I use Google Voice), so given the ATT network benefit, I got a Truphone SIM which is free for incoming calls, and I use Hangouts for texting which uses less $ than sending a text. I also after having the Truphone SIM for some days learned the UB2 easily often loses the BT and Wifi signal and goes to LTE and so I was being charged for "accidental" use so I disable UB2 cellular altogether and enable when I deliberately are going without my phone.
$190 + shipping is a little high, you normally can get in the $180-$185 total including shipping on ebay. There is one for $172 but they charged state tax making it nearly $200, but I got this one for $185 and worked fine looks as-new in a slightly tatty box.

nigelhealy said:
Welcome! I've had mine now about 2 weeks.
I bought an UB2 which was unlocked.
I had the same problem. Reboot the watch made it work in my case.
I have a T-Mobile and ATT SIMs. The ATT SIM worked right away, the T-Mobile would not work right away but rebooting the watch made it work. Now that could have been coincidence, say T-Mobile takes a while before it lets an unknown IMEI into its network?
Hopefully that fixes it for you.
Next, I spent a time experimenting, moving around with the ATT and T-Mobile SIMs. I found the lack of the lower frequency bands meant it often ends up easily offline, not even 2G, that problem was more common on T-Mobile than it was on ATT.
I also found when using LTE the battery is pretty bad, whilst BT or Wifi tethered to the mobile I lose about 5% an hour, so does a reasonable job of lasting through the day, on LTE I was losing 25% an hour so 4 hours. Once I learned that, meant I'd not really be away from my phone for long periods, so I now know its more for brief periods when not having the phone is helpful. The classic use case would be running,, or short bike rides. Therefore I'd be really using it in case someone was to phone me (I use Google Voice), so given the ATT network benefit, I got a Truphone SIM which is free for incoming calls, and I use Hangouts for texting which uses less $ than sending a text. I also after having the Truphone SIM for some days learned the UB2 easily often loses the BT and Wifi signal and goes to LTE and so I was being charged for "accidental" use so I disable UB2 cellular altogether and enable when I deliberately are going without my phone.
$190 + shipping is a little high, you normally can get in the $180-$185 total including shipping on ebay. There is one for $180 but they charged state tax making it nearly $200, but I got this one for $185 and worked fine looks as-new in a slightly tatty box.
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Thanks for the feedback, I have rebooted many time and tried several sim cards., according to T-Mobil the IMEI is good for their network.
I got this for $169 so pretty good deal IMO.

rweddy1 said:
Thanks for the feedback, I have rebooted many time and tried several sim cards., according to T-Mobil the IMEI is good for their network.
I got this for $169 so pretty good deal IMO.
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$169, excellent, just the link you gave says $190 now.
So I'd say from my experience where I live (northen California) that ATT would be a better bet for the UB2's bands. It may be the case T-mobile's frequencies in your area are not overlapping the very limited bands of the UB2. T-Mobile's primary band is 12 which the UB2 doesn't have. In my case if i were outdoors i could get LTE but indoors it would go to 2G. ATT however tended to stay on LTE more often when indoors.
The other option is yours is locked. I don't know how to tell if its locked. What does SIM status (settings, cellular, SIM status) say? My working UB2 shows Network: Truphone (what I have inserted presently) Signal strength: -112dBm 29 asu , Network type: LTE , service state in service,, roaming: not roaming, network state disconnected (as I'm on my BT to my phone). When I swipe down from watch face it shows as 1 or 2 LTE bars.
When I came across some lower priced units they were in fact locked, I saw units for $170 but in fact locked, and I was told you could buy an unlock code on ebay. A quick search now indicates you can buy for about $8

I've yet to actually see a LGU2 that is locked. Some sellers assume they are but they usually aren't. I purchased mine directly from AT&T and it was never locked. The same for the Sport. Others have purchased from AT&T and used them on other providers. I guess it's possible for used watches that were activated on AT&T to be locked? Not sure though.
As far as battery usage on LTE, could it be a weak signal causing the problem? Without cellular on I use about 3%-4% an hour and when it's on I use around 5%-7% an hour. Of course if I take calls it will drain faster, but just idling doesn't affect it too much. I also set my preferred network to 3G because HSPA speeds are plenty fast enough for me and more readily available with strong signals in my area. I only exceed the 25% drainage per hour when I'm tracking runs with GPS. I have 3G on, bluetooth headphones for music and GPS tracking during runs. I can use 35% an hour running.
I only use 3G when I run so I haven't tested the data usage when i'm connected by BT. Most of the time 3G is off. I don't have GV and forward my calls to the watch during runs. I don't give out the watch's number so I don't have a reason to leave it on.

OK I have this working now, I had to mess with settings a few times and disconnected BT for LTE to come up.
Now the only issue is when making calls now, if I try to make a call via watch, the call drops almost instantly, the cellular connections drops and I have to reboot to watch to get LTE to work again.

rweddy1 said:
OK I have this working now, I had to mess with settings a few times and disconnected BT for LTE to come up.
Now the only issue is when making calls now, if I try to make a call via watch, the call drops almost instantly, the cellular connections drops and I have to reboot to watch to get LTE to work again.
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I think T-Mobile and UB2 aren't good bed fellows. I'm thinking you drop down from LTE when making a call and its really reluctant to go back to LTE.
What happens if you change from LTE preferred to say 2G or 3G preferred?

Got T Mobile APNs loaded?

Yes but is works but very sporadically, according to seller below, anyone have there phone working with add on account?
"The issue is not with the device it’s trying to use the device with Tmobile’s wearables add on. The device can be used as a standalone device as a new line with t-mobile, but if you are trying to use the wearables add on plan that won’t work.."

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Yes but is works but very sporadically, according to seller below, anyone have there phone working with add on account?
"The issue is not with the device it’s trying to use the device with Tmobile’s wearables add on. The device can be used as a standalone device as a new line with t-mobile, but if you are trying to use the wearables add on plan that won’t work.."
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That sounds fair. If it was a specific wearables T-Mobile plan you'd have to get a specific T-Mobile device. Mine worked on T-Mobile when move the SIM from my phone to the UB2. What I'm finding is the UB2 drops BT and then tends to go to LTE before Wifi and it pulls some data when no good reason, so disable cellular and enable cellular when standalone, lowers the bill.
I did phone up T-Mobile about wearables, I was considering the Samsung Gear S3, but it was plain bad value, they wanted $15/month to add a wearable, well the UB2's capabilities struggle to pull more than a few MB/day because otherwise it drains battery too much and it gets very hot and disconnects too often to use it for many calls. There are much better plans out there. I'm on Truphone which is based on ATT and mostly disable cellular when have my phone with me and enable when I leave the phone. I'm extrapolating about $5/month.

nigelhealy said:
That sounds fair. If it was a specific wearables T-Mobile plan you'd have to get a specific T-Mobile device. Mine worked on T-Mobile when move the SIM from my phone to the UB2. What I'm finding is the UB2 drops BT and then tends to go to LTE before Wifi and it pulls some data when no good reason, so disable cellular and enable cellular when standalone, lowers the bill.
I did phone up T-Mobile about wearables, I was considering the Samsung Gear S3, but it was plain bad value, they wanted $15/month to add a wearable, well the UB2's capabilities struggle to pull more than a few MB/day because otherwise it drains battery too much and it gets very hot and disconnects too often to use it for many calls. There are much better plans out there. I'm on Truphone which is based on ATT and mostly disable cellular when have my phone with me and enable when I leave the phone. I'm extrapolating about $5/month.
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So T-Mobile's wearable plan is $5 per month, but if it wont work on my UB2 then might as well be $15...

rweddy1 said:
So T-Mobile's wearable plan is $5 per month, but if it wont work on my UB2 then might as well be $15...
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You were quoted differently from me, I'm on a T-Mobile family plan, usually $20/month adding phone, asked to add a wearable, told $15. You were told $5?
Regardless if its $5, $15, $20, the UB2 can't pull much LTE through given its battery.

nigelhealy said:
You were quoted differently from me, I'm on a T-Mobile family plan, usually $20/month adding phone, asked to add a wearable, told $15. You were told $5?
Regardless if its $5, $15, $20, the UB2 can't pull much LTE through given its battery.
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Yes you are correct, after doing more research on this the $5 plan only will work with Samsung Gear S3, the LG Urbane requires a additional phone line like you were told...
So rather than pay the extra $$ per month, I will just pull my SIM out of my phone & us it in my watch if needed. I have tested this and it work perfectly.

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Yes you are correct, after doing more research on this the $5 plan only will work with Samsung Gear S3, the LG Urbane requires a additional phone line like you were told...
So rather than pay the extra $$ per month, I will just pull my SIM out of my phone & us it in my watch if needed. I have tested this and it work perfectly.
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I moved existing Sims to learn of UB2 capabilities. The rotating rear cover will lose waterproof seal if you rotate it off often.
AW2 has its weakenesses now but not expect after a couple of performance tuning releases it will improve the standalone capability, of which one of which is a backup phone if you phone breaks//lost so having a PAYG sim to fall back on is a useful safety net.

Actually seal is just like any watch, keep it lubed with silicon and replace it every year or 2 depending on climate.
What is this other carrier you using ? I do like the idea of a back up, just not for more than $5 a month.

rweddy1 said:
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What is this other carrier you using ? I do like the idea of a back up, just not for more than $5 a month.
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Truphone.
Disable cellular most of the time as otherwise it will pull data for no good reason even when near phone. Then when you want to use standalone then enable cellular. Optional is forward calls from phone. I give out Google Voice number and tick the Truphone number when I want to leave the phone behind. GV turns texts into data in Hangouts. If I do this then the UB2 costs about 9 to 27 cents per day when cellular enabled. Screenshot of the May costs so far. You can extrapolate to a small monthly cost. Notice the free incoming calls, so if someone phones me when I go without my mobile.
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nigelhealy said:
Truphone.
Disable cellular most of the time as otherwise it will pull data for no good reason even when near phone. Then when you want to use standalone then enable cellular. Optional is forward calls from phone. I give out Google Voice number and tick the Truphone number when I want to leave the phone behind. GV turns texts into data in Hangouts. If I do this then the UB2 costs about 9 to 27 cents per day when cellular enabled. Screenshot of the May costs so far. You can extrapolate to a small monthly cost. Notice the free incoming calls, so if someone phones me when I go without my mobile.
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Thank you for the advice, I will give them a go.
Cheers,

I do not think its any issue with the wearables thing on Tmobile. Not with this device at least. I'm all good here with mine , I did encounter this issue but it was a galaxy tab S Lte that was mobile data only , no calling / Sms features or radio so it would not connect to Tmobile.

@moderator please move this thread to the new forum we have for the Urbane 2
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-urbane-2