Urbane 2 LTE not working - LG Watch Urbane

Urbane 2 LTE not working - LG Watch Urbane

Hello All I purchased a refurbished Urbane 2 LTE (W200A) from here .
I put in a T-Mobil SIM but it will not work, under SIM status says out of service, T-Mobil checked the IMEI # and says it is fine but might be carrier locked?
Any thoughts/ideas on this issue?
Cheers,

rweddy1 said:
Hello All I purchased a refurbished Urbane 2 LTE (W200A) from here .
I put in a T-Mobil SIM but it will not work, under SIM status says out of service, T-Mobil checked the IMEI # and says it is fine but might be carrier locked?
Any thoughts/ideas on this issue?
Cheers,
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Welcome! I've had mine now about 2 weeks.
I bought an UB2 which was unlocked.
I had the same problem. Reboot the watch made it work in my case.
I have a T-Mobile and ATT SIMs. The ATT SIM worked right away, the T-Mobile would not work right away but rebooting the watch made it work. Now that could have been coincidence, say T-Mobile takes a while before it lets an unknown IMEI into its network?
Hopefully that fixes it for you.
Next, I spent a time experimenting, moving around with the ATT and T-Mobile SIMs. I found the lack of the lower frequency bands meant it often ends up easily offline, not even 2G, that problem was more common on T-Mobile than it was on ATT.
I also found when using LTE the battery is pretty bad, whilst BT or Wifi tethered to the mobile I lose about 5% an hour, so does a reasonable job of lasting through the day, on LTE I was losing 25% an hour so 4 hours. Once I learned that, meant I'd not really be away from my phone for long periods, so I now know its more for brief periods when not having the phone is helpful. The classic use case would be running,, or short bike rides. Therefore I'd be really using it in case someone was to phone me (I use Google Voice), so given the ATT network benefit, I got a Truphone SIM which is free for incoming calls, and I use Hangouts for texting which uses less $ than sending a text. I also after having the Truphone SIM for some days learned the UB2 easily often loses the BT and Wifi signal and goes to LTE and so I was being charged for "accidental" use so I disable UB2 cellular altogether and enable when I deliberately are going without my phone.
$190 + shipping is a little high, you normally can get in the $180-$185 total including shipping on ebay. There is one for $172 but they charged state tax making it nearly $200, but I got this one for $185 and worked fine looks as-new in a slightly tatty box.

nigelhealy said:
Welcome! I've had mine now about 2 weeks.
I bought an UB2 which was unlocked.
I had the same problem. Reboot the watch made it work in my case.
I have a T-Mobile and ATT SIMs. The ATT SIM worked right away, the T-Mobile would not work right away but rebooting the watch made it work. Now that could have been coincidence, say T-Mobile takes a while before it lets an unknown IMEI into its network?
Hopefully that fixes it for you.
Next, I spent a time experimenting, moving around with the ATT and T-Mobile SIMs. I found the lack of the lower frequency bands meant it often ends up easily offline, not even 2G, that problem was more common on T-Mobile than it was on ATT.
I also found when using LTE the battery is pretty bad, whilst BT or Wifi tethered to the mobile I lose about 5% an hour, so does a reasonable job of lasting through the day, on LTE I was losing 25% an hour so 4 hours. Once I learned that, meant I'd not really be away from my phone for long periods, so I now know its more for brief periods when not having the phone is helpful. The classic use case would be running,, or short bike rides. Therefore I'd be really using it in case someone was to phone me (I use Google Voice), so given the ATT network benefit, I got a Truphone SIM which is free for incoming calls, and I use Hangouts for texting which uses less $ than sending a text. I also after having the Truphone SIM for some days learned the UB2 easily often loses the BT and Wifi signal and goes to LTE and so I was being charged for "accidental" use so I disable UB2 cellular altogether and enable when I deliberately are going without my phone.
$190 + shipping is a little high, you normally can get in the $180-$185 total including shipping on ebay. There is one for $180 but they charged state tax making it nearly $200, but I got this one for $185 and worked fine looks as-new in a slightly tatty box.
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Thanks for the feedback, I have rebooted many time and tried several sim cards., according to T-Mobil the IMEI is good for their network.
I got this for $169 so pretty good deal IMO.

rweddy1 said:
Thanks for the feedback, I have rebooted many time and tried several sim cards., according to T-Mobil the IMEI is good for their network.
I got this for $169 so pretty good deal IMO.
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$169, excellent, just the link you gave says $190 now.
So I'd say from my experience where I live (northen California) that ATT would be a better bet for the UB2's bands. It may be the case T-mobile's frequencies in your area are not overlapping the very limited bands of the UB2. T-Mobile's primary band is 12 which the UB2 doesn't have. In my case if i were outdoors i could get LTE but indoors it would go to 2G. ATT however tended to stay on LTE more often when indoors.
The other option is yours is locked. I don't know how to tell if its locked. What does SIM status (settings, cellular, SIM status) say? My working UB2 shows Network: Truphone (what I have inserted presently) Signal strength: -112dBm 29 asu , Network type: LTE , service state in service,, roaming: not roaming, network state disconnected (as I'm on my BT to my phone). When I swipe down from watch face it shows as 1 or 2 LTE bars.
When I came across some lower priced units they were in fact locked, I saw units for $170 but in fact locked, and I was told you could buy an unlock code on ebay. A quick search now indicates you can buy for about $8

I've yet to actually see a LGU2 that is locked. Some sellers assume they are but they usually aren't. I purchased mine directly from AT&T and it was never locked. The same for the Sport. Others have purchased from AT&T and used them on other providers. I guess it's possible for used watches that were activated on AT&T to be locked? Not sure though.
As far as battery usage on LTE, could it be a weak signal causing the problem? Without cellular on I use about 3%-4% an hour and when it's on I use around 5%-7% an hour. Of course if I take calls it will drain faster, but just idling doesn't affect it too much. I also set my preferred network to 3G because HSPA speeds are plenty fast enough for me and more readily available with strong signals in my area. I only exceed the 25% drainage per hour when I'm tracking runs with GPS. I have 3G on, bluetooth headphones for music and GPS tracking during runs. I can use 35% an hour running.
I only use 3G when I run so I haven't tested the data usage when i'm connected by BT. Most of the time 3G is off. I don't have GV and forward my calls to the watch during runs. I don't give out the watch's number so I don't have a reason to leave it on.

OK I have this working now, I had to mess with settings a few times and disconnected BT for LTE to come up.
Now the only issue is when making calls now, if I try to make a call via watch, the call drops almost instantly, the cellular connections drops and I have to reboot to watch to get LTE to work again.

rweddy1 said:
OK I have this working now, I had to mess with settings a few times and disconnected BT for LTE to come up.
Now the only issue is when making calls now, if I try to make a call via watch, the call drops almost instantly, the cellular connections drops and I have to reboot to watch to get LTE to work again.
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I think T-Mobile and UB2 aren't good bed fellows. I'm thinking you drop down from LTE when making a call and its really reluctant to go back to LTE.
What happens if you change from LTE preferred to say 2G or 3G preferred?

Got T Mobile APNs loaded?

Yes but is works but very sporadically, according to seller below, anyone have there phone working with add on account?
"The issue is not with the device it’s trying to use the device with Tmobile’s wearables add on. The device can be used as a standalone device as a new line with t-mobile, but if you are trying to use the wearables add on plan that won’t work.."

rweddy1 said:
Yes but is works but very sporadically, according to seller below, anyone have there phone working with add on account?
"The issue is not with the device it’s trying to use the device with Tmobile’s wearables add on. The device can be used as a standalone device as a new line with t-mobile, but if you are trying to use the wearables add on plan that won’t work.."
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That sounds fair. If it was a specific wearables T-Mobile plan you'd have to get a specific T-Mobile device. Mine worked on T-Mobile when move the SIM from my phone to the UB2. What I'm finding is the UB2 drops BT and then tends to go to LTE before Wifi and it pulls some data when no good reason, so disable cellular and enable cellular when standalone, lowers the bill.
I did phone up T-Mobile about wearables, I was considering the Samsung Gear S3, but it was plain bad value, they wanted $15/month to add a wearable, well the UB2's capabilities struggle to pull more than a few MB/day because otherwise it drains battery too much and it gets very hot and disconnects too often to use it for many calls. There are much better plans out there. I'm on Truphone which is based on ATT and mostly disable cellular when have my phone with me and enable when I leave the phone. I'm extrapolating about $5/month.

nigelhealy said:
That sounds fair. If it was a specific wearables T-Mobile plan you'd have to get a specific T-Mobile device. Mine worked on T-Mobile when move the SIM from my phone to the UB2. What I'm finding is the UB2 drops BT and then tends to go to LTE before Wifi and it pulls some data when no good reason, so disable cellular and enable cellular when standalone, lowers the bill.
I did phone up T-Mobile about wearables, I was considering the Samsung Gear S3, but it was plain bad value, they wanted $15/month to add a wearable, well the UB2's capabilities struggle to pull more than a few MB/day because otherwise it drains battery too much and it gets very hot and disconnects too often to use it for many calls. There are much better plans out there. I'm on Truphone which is based on ATT and mostly disable cellular when have my phone with me and enable when I leave the phone. I'm extrapolating about $5/month.
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So T-Mobile's wearable plan is $5 per month, but if it wont work on my UB2 then might as well be $15...

rweddy1 said:
So T-Mobile's wearable plan is $5 per month, but if it wont work on my UB2 then might as well be $15...
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You were quoted differently from me, I'm on a T-Mobile family plan, usually $20/month adding phone, asked to add a wearable, told $15. You were told $5?
Regardless if its $5, $15, $20, the UB2 can't pull much LTE through given its battery.

nigelhealy said:
You were quoted differently from me, I'm on a T-Mobile family plan, usually $20/month adding phone, asked to add a wearable, told $15. You were told $5?
Regardless if its $5, $15, $20, the UB2 can't pull much LTE through given its battery.
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Yes you are correct, after doing more research on this the $5 plan only will work with Samsung Gear S3, the LG Urbane requires a additional phone line like you were told...
So rather than pay the extra $$ per month, I will just pull my SIM out of my phone & us it in my watch if needed. I have tested this and it work perfectly.

rweddy1 said:
Yes you are correct, after doing more research on this the $5 plan only will work with Samsung Gear S3, the LG Urbane requires a additional phone line like you were told...
So rather than pay the extra $$ per month, I will just pull my SIM out of my phone & us it in my watch if needed. I have tested this and it work perfectly.
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I moved existing Sims to learn of UB2 capabilities. The rotating rear cover will lose waterproof seal if you rotate it off often.
AW2 has its weakenesses now but not expect after a couple of performance tuning releases it will improve the standalone capability, of which one of which is a backup phone if you phone breaks//lost so having a PAYG sim to fall back on is a useful safety net.

Actually seal is just like any watch, keep it lubed with silicon and replace it every year or 2 depending on climate.
What is this other carrier you using ? I do like the idea of a back up, just not for more than $5 a month.

rweddy1 said:
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What is this other carrier you using ? I do like the idea of a back up, just not for more than $5 a month.
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Truphone.
Disable cellular most of the time as otherwise it will pull data for no good reason even when near phone. Then when you want to use standalone then enable cellular. Optional is forward calls from phone. I give out Google Voice number and tick the Truphone number when I want to leave the phone behind. GV turns texts into data in Hangouts. If I do this then the UB2 costs about 9 to 27 cents per day when cellular enabled. Screenshot of the May costs so far. You can extrapolate to a small monthly cost. Notice the free incoming calls, so if someone phones me when I go without my mobile.
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nigelhealy said:
Truphone.
Disable cellular most of the time as otherwise it will pull data for no good reason even when near phone. Then when you want to use standalone then enable cellular. Optional is forward calls from phone. I give out Google Voice number and tick the Truphone number when I want to leave the phone behind. GV turns texts into data in Hangouts. If I do this then the UB2 costs about 9 to 27 cents per day when cellular enabled. Screenshot of the May costs so far. You can extrapolate to a small monthly cost. Notice the free incoming calls, so if someone phones me when I go without my mobile.
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Thank you for the advice, I will give them a go.
Cheers,

I do not think its any issue with the wearables thing on Tmobile. Not with this device at least. I'm all good here with mine , I did encounter this issue but it was a galaxy tab S Lte that was mobile data only , no calling / Sms features or radio so it would not connect to Tmobile.

@moderator please move this thread to the new forum we have for the Urbane 2
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-urbane-2

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Manual network/antenna selection possible?

I use my nexus one on ATT - in my area, there are two antennas.. ATT's "preferred" antenna which barely gets any signal at all (resulting in dropped calls every couple of minutes), and there's a "roaming" antenna which gives me full signal and works great. The problem is that when I'm on the roaming (good) antenna, the phone gets a tiny bit of signal from the "preferred" (bad) antenna, switches me over then my calls drop.
I had a Palm Treo which had a hack to manually select the antenna I wanted to use, which worked GREAT. Does a similar hack exist for the nexus one/android?

interesting.... didn't know we can select antennas

there should be a way to hack radio module to allow cell tower override, i have exactly same problem. there are three cells around my house, one nearby and two far away. for some stupid reason phone switches to different cell tower and i lose my network.
in battery use, i have cell standby as my biggest battery hog. cell standby over 25%

I'd be willing to pay for this hack.

has anybody ever found a way to do this?? I just moved further out into the country to get away from the city, and i am one tower too far away to be in the local calling area to all my contacts. lol and i know I'm BARELY into the other towers coverage area. So, if i could tell my phone to stay locked on to a particular tower, and actually get a signal (It switches towers when i still have 3 bars of signal, and I live about a mile further down the street from where it switches) I can avoid long distance charges. I haven't been able to find anything anywhere to be able to do it, but I may be using the wrong search terms. I'm not completely up to snuff on most technical terms. Thanks in advance.

I think cell tower hand offs are handled by the networks, not the phone

can anybody confirm this? what antenna on N1???

mrbkkt1 said:
I think cell tower hand offs are handled by the networks, not the phone
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U could very well be correct! Sounds logical. I've been exploring a handful of VoIP options that ya can use from your Android/WM device using your Data connection/WiFi.
I spent a bunch of time reading and researching, and just installed one called Nettalk. No local phone number for incoming calls, but the app is free, and u can make calls to anywhere to/from any Canadian area. The app looks just like the regular dialer, and works pretty decent. So, when somebody calls, I'll just select 'reject call with message' (if calling from a cell) and say I'll call rite back, or if calling from a land line, I'll just send it to voicemail and call back and presto... problem solved. There are a few other options available, where u pay anywhere from $5 a month, to $30 a month and you still using your Data/WiFi connection, but u get a local calling number for contacts to call, and doesn't matter where your phone is, it will receive the call free of long distance charges. Problem is, i haven't found any that have the city I'm from in their numbers database. So for now, I'm going to see how this system works out.

mrbkkt1 said:
I think cell tower hand offs are handled by the networks, not the phone
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Both the handset and the base station "handle" hand offs. The handset has a programmed minimum signal level, below which it will essentially request a hand off if one is available. The network can switch the handset to another tower for load balancing or other reasons if it determines that the handset (or the carrier's business interests) is better served by another tower. It's a two way system. If the network wants to move you on to another tower, but the phone won't get a lock, you stay on the original tower.
The problem with the OP is that his SIM (which is programmed with carrier preferences) keeps pushing him off roaming and into the actual AT&T network. Basically, AT&T has its network set up so that any level of AT&T signal is preferable to any level of roaming. It does that to save money on roaming costs, since AT&T handles you for free while you're on their system, but has to pay a few cents to have the roaming partner host you.

Maybe
I think Tasks can do that.

samsung has that feature but i have to find for other handsets

So Why Project Fi?

For the current PF subscribers, why did you choose to switch to Project Fi when MetroPCS (another T-Mobile subsidiary) offers the $60 truly unlimited plan?
I'm definitely not trying to step on any toes here, I'm just curious since I bought a Nexus 6 during the Black Friday sale and I'm wondering if I should make the switch. But, TBH, Looking at what I've seen so far, MetroPCS seems to have the better plan as of right now.
I'm really looking forward to hearing your inputs on this subject, I just might be a new subscriber if there's a benefit from switching.
Thanks in advance ?
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1) If you need to use lots of cellular data, then Project Fi is not for you. Its pay-as-you-go data-pricing model is optimized for users who can stay on WiFi most of the time. For them, Fi is very cost effective.
2) A big appeal of Fi is that it offers two networks (T-Mobile and Sprint) with dynamic switching between them, and between cell data and WiFi. This switching is not perfect, but the basic architecture is there.

I use Fi because I live in a rural area that has poor reception from all carriers. I wanted an option to have Wifi calling. If I'm at home I am making calls/text through wifi most of the time. My WiFi is always great at home, and is in most stores and shops I go to (although cell service is fine in town). I know t-mobile offers this, but I like that I can switch between sprint and t-mobile with Fi. This is great because both sprint and t mobile have contracts with other carriers in the area. So If I'm on t-mobile and have a weak connection, it will sometimes roam to AT&T. Other times nothing is available on GSM and it will roam to Bluegrass Cellular through Sprint. I have better overall coverage with both carriers vs just being on att.
The phone does a pretty good job on switching. Sometimes it will get stuck on sprint when I know there is a better t-mobile signal in that spot, but I can use a dialer code to force it to switch (Fi spy makes this easy, although the codes are pretty easy to memorize).
I mostly work from home so cellular data isn't a big issue. On the days I'm in the office, I only use cell data on the way to the office to stream music. There is Wifi at work for data. I seem to find WiFi in most areas I go to. I have averaged 1gb of data per month, making this an affordable service. I do use the data saver in chrome, but don't take any other precautions on saving data. If I want to use the internet, I do, whether i'm on wifi or cellular.
The customer service is great with Fi, and the billing is nice and easy. I can now send/receive all calls and texts at home. On my previous carrier, I would just get voice messages randomly without the phone ringing and usually couldn't send text.

alex.o said:
I use Fi because I live in a rural area that has poor reception from all carriers. I wanted an option to have Wifi calling. If I'm at home I am making calls/text through wifi most of the time. My WiFi is always great at home, and is in most stores and shops I go to (although cell service is fine in town). I know t-mobile offers this, but I like that I can switch between sprint and t-mobile with Fi. This is great because both sprint and t mobile have contracts with other carriers in the area. So If I'm on t-mobile and have a weak connection, it will sometimes roam to AT&T. Other times nothing is available on GSM and it will roam to Bluegrass Cellular through Sprint. I have better overall coverage with both carriers vs just being on att.
The phone does a pretty good job on switching. Sometimes it will get stuck on sprint when I know there is a better t-mobile signal in that spot, but I can use a dialer code to force it to switch (Fi spy makes this easy, although the codes are pretty easy to memorize).
I mostly work from home so cellular data isn't a big issue. On the days I'm in the office, I only use cell data on the way to the office to stream music. There is Wifi at work for data. I seem to find WiFi in most areas I go to. I have averaged 1gb of data per month, making this an affordable service. I do use the data saver in chrome, but don't take any other precautions on saving data. If I want to use the internet, I do, whether i'm on wifi or cellular.
The customer service is great with Fi, and the billing is nice and easy. I can now send/receive all calls and texts at home. On my previous carrier, I would just get voice messages randomly without the phone ringing and usually couldn't send text.
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+1 that's why I switched since I live in the rural mountains near Yosemite. In town I have perfect T-Mobile service, plus Comcast is every where so my phone automatically connects to their hotspots all around. No one has cell service at my house, so WiFi calling is perfect. When I leave my town, sprint is in some areas, and even more rural locations I roam off Verizon. If the op is a heavy data user then I'd go with metro. I personally need the flexibility of the fi network of networks.

I thought about going FI. But with verizon unlimited and their cell tower 500 yards away I don't think I would have a benefit. But is still so tempting.

Urbane 2 LTE - Subcarriers

Hello just got a U2, At&t, what Sims have people been able to successfully use on it besides the att&t? Would like to connect mine cheaply. Anyone tried Mint or Project Fi?

I just got today my U2 ATT unlocked, I put in an ATT SIM and a T-Mobile SIM and both worked, and both showing LTE, although ATT held onto LTE more often, T-Mobile went down to HSPA+ or HSPA as I moved around deeper indoors.

Red pocket works for voice and text, but not data. I'm waiting on a Truphone sim to arrive as I've heard this works across the board.
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notamoosen said:
Red pocket works for voice and text, but not data. I'm waiting on a Truphone sim to arrive as I've heard this works across the board.
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I've had Truphone for a year with no issues. It should work. I tried Ting and H2O originally but had the same issue of no data. Probably an APN settings issue.

notamoosen said:
Red pocket works for voice and text, but not data. I'm waiting on a Truphone sim to arrive as I've heard this works across the board.
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I've also now ordered Truphone SIM.
I only have had my UB2 about 2 days and still learning, but know enough I think the Truphone incoming-centric cost structure probably is a good part of the solution. Thanks for advising Truphone works inside the UB2

mward1995 said:
I've had Truphone for a year with no issues. It should work. I tried Ting and H2O originally but had the same issue of no data. Probably an APN settings issue.
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Thanks for the Truphone tip, I got it and I been averaging about 2MB/day so 18c/day = $5 / month extrapolation, and so I'd struggle to find anything lower cost. What I learned is the LTE really drains battery life, about 25%/hour, vs 5%/hour on BT tether, so the idea I can spend all day out just with the UB2 is not viable so I'd be using for brief traveling light situations, popping down shops, walking the dog, that sort of thing. Around here AT&T is the best coverage. One thing i've learned however is the UB2 for some reason will lose the BT and Wifi connection and so connect to LTE so causing some demand, so I've had to disable cellular and manually enable when I intend to go away from the phone with just the UB2, that should lower my monthly cost to significantly less than $5 extrapolation.
My UB2 would be become more useful once AW2 and Android Pay comes out then it really becomes me single device to head to the local supermarket.

I use H2O Wireless for voice. Prepaid, minimum $10 for 90 days. Calls are something like 5¢ per minute, same for data & SMS. I turned data off, though, because the watch keeps hitting the data connection, running the balance down.

roebling said:
I use H2O Wireless for voice. Prepaid, minimum $10 for 90 days. Calls are something like 5¢ per minute, same for data & SMS. I turned data off, though, because the watch keeps hitting the data connection, running the balance down.
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Right, what I also found the watch keeps hitting the cellular data connection, when there is no good reason, I'd be near Wifi all the time and at most it moves from BT to Wifi but it seems to not go to Wifi, it seems to go LTE if the BT is hiccup.
So the UB2's option for cellular is very dumb, it only allows on/off, I can't say, disable LTE for data but keep the SIM on for incoming calls. So that means I must take specific action when I leave the phone behind, which is to enable cellular.

I guess data is on, it's reporting on & I don't see a setting to turn it off.
I leave my phone on 24/7: cellular on, WiFi on, Bluetooth on, data on (apparently). But I sent a text message from a Google Voice account to my watch 5 minutes ago & the watch hasn't received it so I don't know. I don't want data on it, except WiFi, so it's not been a problem for me. Bill's about $3 a month & I have coverage everywhere so I love it.
Just checked & the SMS test message did go through. Didn't alert so I didn't know it until I looked for it. Guess the volume's down.

mward1995 said:
I've had Truphone for a year with no issues. It should work. I tried Ting and H2O originally but had the same issue of no data. Probably an APN settings issue.
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Yes, the APN couldn't be modified from the watch. I am not sure if there is a small tool so that we can modify it from the paired phone.

Too bad my LG urbane 2 is being tortured atm. Will update when I get it back.
For the record, it's 200mb free each month plus calling and texting.
My total cost was $1

Drops77 said:
Too bad my LG urbane 2 is being tortured atm. Will update when I get it back.
For the record, it's 200mb free each month plus calling and texting.
My total cost was $1
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Couldn't set up APN for the Freedompop SIM card, did you?

My watch is being repaired, other places say the same. Hopefully 2.0 will bring some configuration.

Drops77 said:
My watch is being repaired, other places say the same. Hopefully 2.0 will bring some configuration.
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Unfortunately I don't think that option is available yet on 2.0 either.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidWear/comments/604p4w/any_payasyougo_sims_work_with_gsm_watches/

I didn't spot any cellular configuration options in AW2 DP

@moderator please apply lg-urbane-2 tag.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-urbane-2

damiloveu said:
Couldn't set up APN for the Freedompop SIM card, did you?
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I couldnt either. US mobile did work for me with no issue. I might try truphone, US mobile is $9 a month hopefully can average lower for the watch with truphone pay per use.

So now that 2.0 is out, I got the truphone Sim but it's not working. Any tips?

Drops77 said:
So now that 2.0 is out, I got the truphone Sim but it's not working. Any tips?
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it worked before 2.0 but not after? Or first time trying the SIM? What's not working, cellular and data?

USA Carrier Test[Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Google Fi]

This is the first time I have ever posted anything so please excuse the lack of formatting or "neatness."
First of all I want to say that every test I have done was done for a period of 3 days with each of these carriers. The test involved taking the cell phone to the city(Raleigh, NC) to a more rural area(literally anywhere not Raleigh) to test for signal strength differences, voice, and sms. Also, the phone I used is the North American model not the tencent model.
The reason I even did this is because I do not want let go of my Verizon SIM card(I still won't but there is a different reason why at the end)
OK so with that being said let's talk FUNCTIONALITY: ASUS(I have a screenshot of this) is telling me to read in between the lines and that they will push for VoLTE and VoWIFI with USA Carriers AFTER they shut down their 2g/3g Services. However right now VOLTE & VOWIFI DO NOT WORK WITH ANY CARRIER IN THE USA. The closest thing you can get to VOWIFI/VOLTE.
Verizon: Full 4G Support, Data speed and reliability FAR exceed that of AT&T or T-Mobile in RURAL areas of NC. VOICE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES DO NOT WORK ON VERIZON. If you absolutely need to stick to Verizon I have a functional work-around but it does take some time to set up(at the end of post)
AT&T: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON AT&T. If you are not tied to any carrier, I would recommend using AT&T or the best MVNO it has: Good2GO. It is on par with T-Mobile in the city, and also works fine in rural areas.
T-Mobile: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON T-Mobile. I do not recommend this unless you only live in the city and only stay in the city. Rural areas are a no-go for T-Mobile in NC(if you want more specific about which rural areas were tested lmk, but this is mostly central NC)
So I came from Verizon. What is holding me there or why would I recommend you keep it? Well, if you have a current family plan on Verizon with unlimited data, you may want to consider this too, although it is inconvenient.
Reasons to keep Verizon: Unlimited 4G LTE Data plan or an MVNO from Verizon all offer the *MOST RELIABLE* 4G LTE connection. This means that there will rarely be a place without 4G LTE on. The next best thing is AT&T, and although you may not get 4G in as many places as Verizon, it is pretty damn close. Bonus from AT&T is you can actually make calls and text, but wait.... what about 100% Verizon?
IF you reached this spot it is because you want to know the ONLY currently FUNCTIONAL workaround for this problem with no VOLTE VOWIFI or Calls or texts. The solution is to set up call forwarding to a free google voice number from the my verizon app. While you are there, you may as well want to bookmark a webpage in chrome or your browser of choice for text messages. Verizon offers a free service where you can check your texts online. This was originally intended for looking at texts on your computer, but who said you can't use it on your phone?
However, I, cannot stand the idea of being in an emergency where the 4G signal from verizon is too low to make a google voice call, and that I NEED to call someone. Therefore what I am doing is the following: Setting up the Verizon workaround for forwarding calls to the google number, setting up the text message workaround on verizon, and STILL getting an emergency $10/mo AT&T MVNO plan that has unlimited text and calls(Good2go mobile).
other AT&T MVNO's charge way more for that feature by the way. I am usually always travelling, so the amount of times I will be without 4G LTE from any carrier(T-mobile, AT&T, or Verizon) is increased exponentially. I need that backup failsafe with the AT&T MVNO.
With that being said though, if you're wondering why I didn't mention google fi, it is because this sim card 100% did not work at all in this cell phone. I tried changing the APN's and everything else under the sun but it simply did not work. Big bummer since I was hoping this would be my next daily driver for a carrier.
If there is anything else you're interested in let me know. I've had the phone for a good week now so I'm pretty comfy with the way it works and other small things.

ZyroSS said:
This is the first time I have ever posted anything so please excuse the lack of formatting or "neatness."
First of all I want to say that every test I have done was done for a period of 3 days with each of these carriers. The test involved taking the cell phone to the city(Raleigh, NC) to a more rural area(literally anywhere not Raleigh) to test for signal strength differences, voice, and sms. Also, the phone I used is the North American model not the tencent model.
The reason I even did this is because I do not want let go of my Verizon SIM card(I still won't but there is a different reason why at the end)
OK so with that being said let's talk FUNCTIONALITY: ASUS(I have a screenshot of this) is telling me to read in between the lines and that they will push for VoLTE and VoWIFI with USA Carriers AFTER they shut down their 2g/3g Services. However right now VOLTE & VOWIFI DO NOT WORK WITH ANY CARRIER IN THE USA. The closest thing you can get to VOWIFI/VOLTE.
Verizon: Full 4G Support, Data speed and reliability FAR exceed that of AT&T or T-Mobile in RURAL areas of NC. VOICE CALLS AND TEXT MESSAGES DO NOT WORK ON VERIZON. If you absolutely need to stick to Verizon I have a functional work-around but it does take some time to set up(at the end of post)
AT&T: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON AT&T. If you are not tied to any carrier, I would recommend using AT&T or the best MVNO it has: Good2GO. It is on par with T-Mobile in the city, and also works fine in rural areas.
T-Mobile: Full 4G,H+,1X Support. VOICE CALLS, TEXT, DATA ALL WORK ON T-Mobile. I do not recommend this unless you only live in the city and only stay in the city. Rural areas are a no-go for T-Mobile in NC(if you want more specific about which rural areas were tested lmk, but this is mostly central NC)
So I came from Verizon. What is holding me there or why would I recommend you keep it? Well, if you have a current family plan on Verizon with unlimited data, you may want to consider this too, although it is inconvenient.
Reasons to keep Verizon: Unlimited 4G LTE Data plan or an MVNO from Verizon all offer the *MOST RELIABLE* 4G LTE connection. This means that there will rarely be a place without 4G LTE on. The next best thing is AT&T, and although you may not get 4G in as many places as Verizon, it is pretty damn close. Bonus from AT&T is you can actually make calls and text, but wait.... what about 100% Verizon?
IF you reached this spot it is because you want to know the ONLY currently FUNCTIONAL workaround for this problem with no VOLTE VOWIFI or Calls or texts. The solution is to set up call forwarding to a free google voice number from the my verizon app. While you are there, you may as well want to bookmark a webpage in chrome or your browser of choice for text messages. Verizon offers a free service where you can check your texts online. This was originally intended for looking at texts on your computer, but who said you can't use it on your phone?
However, I, cannot stand the idea of being in an emergency where the 4G signal from verizon is too low to make a google voice call, and that I NEED to call someone. Therefore what I am doing is the following: Setting up the Verizon workaround for forwarding calls to the google number, setting up the text message workaround on verizon, and STILL getting an emergency $10/mo AT&T MVNO plan that has unlimited text and calls(Good2go mobile).
other AT&T MVNO's charge way more for that feature by the way. I am usually always travelling, so the amount of times I will be without 4G LTE from any carrier(T-mobile, AT&T, or Verizon) is increased exponentially. I need that backup failsafe with the AT&T MVNO.
With that being said though, if you're wondering why I didn't mention google fi, it is because this sim card 100% did not work at all in this cell phone. I tried changing the APN's and everything else under the sun but it simply did not work. Big bummer since I was hoping this would be my next daily driver for a carrier.
If there is anything else you're interested in let me know. I've had the phone for a good week now so I'm pretty comfy with the way it works and other small things.
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Did you try CDMA_Less on Verizon?

tech_head said:
Did you try CDMA_Less on Verizon?
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Yes, didn't work

So this is all true for the international version, but not for the Tencent edition. Tencent version only supports bands 1-4 and pretty much nothing else. Those are the old school bands for AT&T and TMobile, so signal is ok but not great. Indoors TMobile is pretty bad with the Tencent phone, whereas I get fantastic signal with my OnePlus 7 pro in the same places on TMobile.
Damn shame, other than that the rog2 is better in every way and I'm going to miss it dearly but I've got a 1 year old and not having a cell signal at home or work is not an option.

cyagl643 said:
Are there any other downsides, because im thinking even if going overseas you can use it like Vowifi because as long as you have some kind of connection via wifi or data you should get calls and texts via the app.
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I'm considering this method as well. I'm a trucker, so network coverage is a deal breaker for which carrier I use, and no one comes close to Verizon. My big concern now is how 911 would work. I know I couldn't do it via Google Voice, but I'm wondering if the phone would default back to the phone radio and seek out a usable network. I know cell phones are required be able to make 911 calls from any available network in the U.S, even if not activated with a carrier. So would the phone make a 911 call via AT&T or TMO?
If I go through with it, I may do it a slightly different way. I have a spare line I could cancel. Instead, I may activate the ROG II to that one, then port my existing number to GV. That way I could use GV but as my current number. I figure that would be easiest on those with my contact info.

Its a dual sim phone. Why not have Verizon and a GSM MVPN? Straight talk has some call only plans for $20/month.

bruciebabie1963 said:
Its a dual sim phone. Why not have Verizon and a GSM MVPN? Straight talk has some call only plans for $20/month.
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And what happens when the gsm(3g) gets turned off in beginning of 2020? Asus seriously f'd up not allowing volte.

homerunbm33 said:
So I have att and really would like to get this phone but concerned about any possible issues(for example no band 14 and 30) . Did you have any issues with service with att? I'm considering the rog, op7t or pixel 4. Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
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No, I had no real issues with AT&T, it's the reason I'm getting my 2nd sim to be an MVNO for this phone. 1 Carrier only AT&T is simply the best overall for this phone. If we say Verizon is 100% 4G LTE strength/reliabililty, then AT&T is like 90%, while AT&T is 60%. This is of course in more rural areas. In the city it matters not if you have AT&T or T-Mobile...

cyagl643 said:
The Verizon idea sounds like a great workaround because you can also download the My Messages app at the play store and it works the same as the website. The only downside, and correct me if Im wrong would be when calling people they would see your google number and not your real cell number. Are there any other downsides, because im thinking even if going overseas you can use it like Vowifi because as long as you have some kind of connection via wifi or data you should get calls and texts via the app.
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I'm afraid you can't use the app it just doesn't work I tried this... maybe it'll work for you though? Otherwise yes, they would get a call from another number(the google number) and they can call either your google number or verizon number and both will work. it's more of there so you don't inconvenience your contacts, but you should probably tell them you simply switched to (google number) and to just call/text there if you're sticking to verizon only, imo.
otherwise yes the app itself only needs data it doesnt matter if you grab data from ethernet(works), 4G, or wifi...

Mr_Mooncatt said:
I'm considering this method as well. I'm a trucker, so network coverage is a deal breaker for which carrier I use, and no one comes close to Verizon. My big concern now is how 911 would work. I know I couldn't do it via Google Voice, but I'm wondering if the phone would default back to the phone radio and seek out a usable network. I know cell phones are required be able to make 911 calls from any available network in the U.S, even if not activated with a carrier. So would the phone make a 911 call via AT&T or TMO?
If I go through with it, I may do it a slightly different way. I have a spare line I could cancel. Instead, I may activate the ROG II to that one, then port my existing number to GV. That way I could use GV but as my current number. I figure that would be easiest on those with my contact info.
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Technically speaking 911 SHOULD work, but I'm not about to get in trouble trying that one out LOL. I have a backup emergency cell phone line for those emergencies since I also, cannot stand not being able to have that option even if the chances are slim. I am also keeping Verizon because it simply has the strongest 4G signal of the USA carriers that I tested, however AT&T isn't too far behind it's definitely good, just not great. AT&T gets calls and texts by default too so theres that as well lol

bruciebabie1963 said:
Its a dual sim phone. Why not have Verizon and a GSM MVPN? Straight talk has some call only plans for $20/month.
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This is exactly what I did. I purchased a plan $10/mo for unlimited calls/texts through Good2go mobile, an AT&T MVNO...

ZyroSS said:
This is exactly what I did. I purchased a plan $10/mo for unlimited calls/texts through Good2go mobile, an AT&T MVNO...
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I may consider this as well. I'll likely run it Verizon only with the work around and see how it goes before adding a second SIM.
As for 911, I think I may be able to contact a local 911 operator and see what info I can glean from them.
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I did find this, which includes some info both on how 911 works with un-activated phones, and how to make a test call.
https://www.911.gov/frequently_asked_questions.html

ZyroSS said:
I'm afraid you can't use the app it just doesn't work I tried this... maybe it'll work for you though? Otherwise yes, they would get a call from another number(the google number) and they can call either your google number or verizon number and both will work. it's more of there so you don't inconvenience your contacts, but you should probably tell them you simply switched to (google number) and to just call/text there if you're sticking to verizon only, imo.
otherwise yes the app itself only needs data it doesnt matter if you grab data from ethernet(works), 4G, or wifi...
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I mean I tried the app on the current phone I have with wifi calling off and airplane mode on, and had someone text me and I got it.

Hey, so I've tried everything I read online to forward my calls to Google voice. I have Verizon. I've tried both *72 and *73. I've made sure to not have any forwarding set up on GV so I'm not in an infinite forwarding loop. But no matter what, it seems the calls straight to GV voicemail. Is there something I'm missing? I've also tried it with my Verizon number linked and after I deleted it. Any help would be much appreciated. thank you

Drkstover said:
Hey, so I've tried everything I read online to forward my calls to Google voice. I have Verizon. I've tried both *72 and *73. I've made sure to not have any forwarding set up on GV so I'm not in an infinite forwarding loop. But no matter what, it seems the calls straight to GV voicemail. Is there something I'm missing? I've also tried it with my Verizon number linked and after I deleted it. Any help would be much appreciated. thank you
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I called Verizon and had them forward my calls to my GV # and it works fine.

AVJ1221 said:
I called Verizon and had them forward my calls to my GV # and it works fine.
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What app are you using for GV calls? Google Voice app doesn't ring for me...

ram4ufriends said:
What app are you using for GV calls? Google Voice app doesn't ring for me...
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Try restarting your phone. Sometimes GV gets buggy for some unknown reason. I also have Hangouts and Hangouts dialer downloaded so Google assistant can make calls when I ask. I believe GV can dial out through dialer as well.
And make sure to allow GV and any other calling app you're using to auto start in your phone settings.

ZyroSS said:
This is exactly what I did. I purchased a plan $10/mo for unlimited calls/texts through Good2go mobile, an AT&T MVNO...
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How is Good2go working for you?
Any problems in calls/texts?
Thanks.

VoLTE, WiFi calling with the upcoming 3G shutdown

Visiting the US and trying to find more information on this upcoming 3G shutdown.
From what I have learned from calling/chatting with T-mobile, AT&T, Sprint, Mint Mobile, Boost Mobile, Straight Talk and Consumer Cellular (** all this info is not guaranteed completely accurate as not all cell tech support people actually know everything - not a knock - how could they know everything about 1000 different handsets just saying)
Following anything you see below is certainly without warranty. I am not responsible for bricking your phone or turning it into a coffee maker.
Okay so enough disclaimer. Here is what I think I have learned:
For reference my phone is a V40 ThinQ LM-V405UA. It was manufactured for Sprint - bought it unlocked and refurbished.
AT&T has already shutdown 3G calling and all voice calls are now on VoLTE... but maybe not in all areas??
T-Mobile and it's MVNO's still have 3G operating and plan to shut it down in July.. ish...
Mint Mobile and Boost shows my IMEI to be compatible.
Consumer Cellular show my IMEI to NOT be compatible.
The AT&T store told me in person that I would NOT be able to enable VoLTE on my phone with the network since it was made for Sprint
AT&T Chat - escalated to Technical Support - confirmed that there was no way to enable VoLTE and that it would not function on their network.
Chatted with T-Mobile, Sprint and LG - they could not tell me any service codes or techniques to enable VoLTE. Each did kindly tell me I should check with LG, T-Mobile, Sprint...
*#*#4636#*#* brings up the Testing Menu
Under Phone Info you can switch on "VoLTE Provisioned"... (YES!! - right? ...not sure this does anything)
Below that is a toggle for "Wifi Calling Provisioned" . Mine is grey'd out in the off position
You can set the preferred network type - and mine is set currently to LTE/CDMA/UMTS auto (PRL) - not sure what that means but...
You can enter the "HiddenMenu" by dialing *#546368#*405#
I clicked all around and found only one thing
Click SVC Menu
Scroll down to VoWiFi (Ahaaa!! right??)
Click on Wi-Fi Calling Toggle and change the value to 1 - on
I rebooted and... no change.
I currently have a Mint Mobile sim (T-Mobile towers) and it currently works. Gleaning from what I read somewhere - if you truly have VoLTE activated and configure correctly you should be able to have data to load a web page DURING a call (with WiFi switched off). Mine fails to load during a call.
If you have VoWifi configured and activated correctly you should be able to make a phone call having Cell data switched off and attached to WiFi. Mine can not make a call.
My wife's Xioami phone does all of this and even has little VoLTE symbols at the top of the screen.
Hopefully all of this information helps someone else - but even better yet - hopefully someone can tell me if I will still have cell service in July when T-Mobile is shutting down their 3G service. Are there other tests I should be doing?
Also for fun - pulled my LG-V20 from the drawer and messing with it. It shows that WiFi Calling is WORKING... Battery is bloated but I think I had a successful test with it.
Anyway - that is where I am at. All tips, tricks and ANSWERS are appreciated.

I don't know if flashing it to the AT&T or open market version rom would do the trick but probably would. Note, since it's refurbished you sure it wasn't already reflashed to the open market version rom? If so it should work!
AT&T might have gotten confused by your description...
AT&T whitelisted phones:
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My understanding, and it could be outdated, but maybe not, but at&t (supposedly) checks imei, and if it's not one of their phones, there's nothing you can do to make it work. From your description, it *sounds* like they are still doing this.
For VoWifi to work, with my mint mobile sim at least, you have to go to your mint account and turn on VoWifi ability. So not only does the phone need to be capable, the sim needs to be provisioned for it. Many people overlook this part.
There are numerous indicators of VoLTE working. Many times when you bring up the dialer there's a little HD symbol on the talk button. Other times it will give you a little LTE symbol on the status bar when making a call (and it doesn't change to 3G during call), etc.
The VoLTE situation is where 'what rom are u running?' becomes very important. The lte bands that the rom is capable of need to coincide with the carrier you want to use. The 'Open US' roms have the most bands available, and is usually a great choice for T-MO (and mvno of t-mo). Even has band 71 (which is only used by t-mo).
Lastly, for those that may not be aware, after market roms, like lineage, aren't capable of VoLTE (or VoWifi), for most LG phones. that's because LG (and Sammy) both use a 'proprietary' IMS stack, which means those Vo technologies only work on their phones with their roms.

AT&T doesn't care about who's phone it was as long it's imei isn't blacklisted.
What is important is the hardware which can't be changed or the firmware which can be changed.
My guess is the issue is the former. The carrier variant phones can have slightly different hardware configurations.

Thanks gang for the notes.
I'm running stock rom. I'm not rooted nor bootloader unlocked. I'm a bit resistant as this is my daily driver phone plus there doesn't seem to be clear confirmation that cross flashing something will really result in better performance. Add to that I won't be able to reinstall whatsapp nor my banking app etc - since my home country sim and phone number (Colombia) won't receive a confirmation text until I return there in October. Tough situation.
But I've got more test results
@AsItLies - thanks for that - I was able to enable wifi calling in the Mint app. I also called consumer cellular to confirm that my sim had volte and wifi calling enabled on their end. This was all done before testing below.
I found some exciting new settings inside the hidden menu.
Dialing *#546368#*405# choosing: Field test / GPRI VoLTE+VoWifi / IMS / Slot 0
VoLTE was enabled (possibly from steps done above in my first poat?) But I was also able to enable VoWifi ViWifi and ViLTE. I enabled them all.
After making that change I dialed the Testing menu - *#*#4636#*#* - Wifi calling Provisioned and Video calling Provisioned are still greyed out in the off position. VoLTE Provisioned is still on.
Testing - I can make a call using a Consumer cellular (At&t mvno) sim. I can not get cell data during the call though- same results as with my Mint mobile (T-mobile) sim.
I was told that At&t has already shut down all 3G calling so my phone MUST be using VoLTE if the call worked?
I have read unconfirmed reports that not all 3G calling has been shut down since some of the cell towers have not been upgraded yet... so could be I just get lucky.
My wife's phone can make calls with either sim AND get cell data during the call. (so does that prove that the nearest tower must already be upgraded?)
My wife's phone has nice symbols and setting sliders for wifi calling and volte calling - all enabled
I tried running tests with airplane mode on and wifi enabled - but it wont make a call that way on my phone or the wife's phone.
So basically it seems like nothing has changed. I'm still not convinced that I will have a working phone in July ish... Any more tips on testing and verifying that are appreciated.

It's likely running on 4G VoLTE.
This is how my Note 10+ is configured, no changes were needed.

@blackhawk - My screen looks very similar.
My preferred network type is set to - GSM/WCDMA/LTE (PRL).
I am not sure if that was the default or if I fiddled with that... I am going to dink around with that and see if changing that solves my problem. But
But I did some more testing. I was away from the house at the grocery store. I dialed my phone with Mint Mobile sim in and my 4G symbol changed to 3G and the call went through. I did have data during that time - but painfully slow.
Grabbed the wife's Xiamoi phone with her Consume Cellular (AT&T Mvno sim). Dialed and the 4G symbol stayed on and she had data of a reasonable speed.
So - I am believing... not proof... that my phone is still dropping to 3G to make calls and is skating away on the still operating 3G system of T-Mobile. Evidence that I might be without calling in July.
I should test the reverse - and pop the sim out of the wife's phone and try my phone with an AT&T sim and see if I had no calling service.... but she doesn't really like when I pop open her phone in the grocery store. She puts up with a lot - but I didn't have any "geek credits" in the bank so I will have to plan for that later...
Anyway - that is the latest.

wantpizza said:
@blackhawk - My screen looks very similar.
My preferred network type is set to - GSM/WCDMA/LTE (PRL).
I am not sure if that was the default or if I fiddled with that... I am going to dink around with that and see if changing that solves my problem. But
But I did some more testing. I was away from the house at the grocery store. I dialed my phone with Mint Mobile sim in and my 4G symbol changed to 3G and the call went through. I did have data during that time - but painfully slow.
Grabbed the wife's Xiamoi phone with her Consume Cellular (AT&T Mvno sim). Dialed and the 4G symbol stayed on and she had data of a reasonable speed.
So - I am believing... not proof... that my phone is still dropping to 3G to make calls and is skating away on the still operating 3G system of T-Mobile. Evidence that I might be without calling in July.
I should test the reverse - and pop the sim out of the wife's phone and try my phone with an AT&T sim and see if I had no calling service.... but she doesn't really like when I pop open her phone in the grocery store. She puts up with a lot - but I didn't have any "geek credits" in the bank so I will have to plan for that later...
Anyway - that is the latest.
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Set it to that setting I'm using.
Clear Sim toolkit data.
Network reset and a reset on AT&T's side too.
The APN profile should ATT Nextgenphone I believe.

@blackhawk - thanks. I have an AT&T sim to fiddle with now (Straight talk this time).
AT&T only gives me 1 bar here in my house.
It seems no matter when I chose as my Preferred network type - I get
Out of service area / Mobile network is unavailable
SIM not provisioned for voice
But I don't have a SIM toolbox on this phone. Can I get that installed without root? Can you point me in that direction. Because maybe that is what I need to do next is clear that - especially since I keep popping in random sim cards.
Thanks again

Oh - skip that - brain dead. I got the sim toolkit cleared...
On with the testing!

Did some testing again with my Mint SIM - i get 4 bars here...
Did you know that you can have the dialer, Testing menu and Sim Toolkit settings page open/split screen or background screens at the same time? Well that saves some time... By the way the HiddenMenu won't stay open as a background page... Just so you know.
So here is my testing sequence: Wifi switched off. Dial the local automated weather number and then switching to the Testing menu to watch the reported "Voice Network Type" . Record results. Enable Airplane mode. Got to Sim Toolbox and clear data. Disable Airplane mode and try a new "Voice Network Type".
Basically all of the settings for "Set preferred network type:" that include UMTS or GSM will work. But the Voice type drops to GSM or UMTS. Data drops to UMTS , HSPAP or sometimes EDGE. 5 seconds after the call ends the Phone Info page reports "Voice Network Type" and "Data Network Type" as LTE.
Any settings like LTE Only or something that doesn't include UMTS in it - the calls just fail. Actually - if the "GSM Service" inside Testing Menu/Phone Info reported "Emergency Calls Only" under "GSM Service" - then you can bet the call failed. Despite really wanting to do complete testing - I did not dial 911 to see if it would work. Just seemed wrong to potentially interrupt a real emergency - even in nowhere USA.
I found some more interesting settings inside HiddenMenu / IMS Setting / GPRI VoLTE / Slot - 0 / Roaming
Inside there are VoLTE and VoWifi - I enabled all the roaming options inside each.
But - alas no change to my tests so far.
I tested the Wife's phone on Straight talk and the Mint sim = VoLTE symbol
So that is one AT&T and one T-Mobile MVNO
Preferred Network Type: LTE/TD-SCDMA/UMTS
Worked great. Testing page showed that the voice call stayed on LTE. I enabled Wifi and tried getting it to transfer to a VoWifi call but - even with 1 bar it wouldn't go. If you have 0 bars it won't initiate a call. Probably a security thing as they don't know if you are a real subscriber??
Anyway - I think that proves?? that my phone is still not doing any VoLTE nor VoWifi calling and will likely fail or have extreme problems as the 3G network fades away.

On my N10+ the hidden menu stays open until I close it. Makes things easier.
Get the carrier advanced tech support to troubleshoot it if possible. You probably know more about than me at this point.
I can highly recommend a Note 10+ N975U1, they run great on Android 9 or 10; Android 11 and especially 12 not so much so. I have two, just bought another new one about 5 months ago.
It's a better flagship Samsung than the ones Samsung released after it in my opinion.
New factory sealed ones are available still for $800 and used ones in "excellent" condition for half of that. In a good case they will easily last 3+ years with only battery replacements. The one in my hand is 2.5 yo and looks/runs like new with zero display degradation. It's heavily used. Current OS load will be 2 yo in June, still fast and stable with minimal maintenance. Supports up to 1tb expandable storage.
Both the N975U (AT&T variant) and the N975U1 (unlocked) run seamlessly on AT&T. There's a 5G variant but it will likely eat more battery.
It's display is one of the best, maybe the best in any smartphone even today It's gorgeous with an exceptional color rendering index and white point. Being 60hz means less power consumption and better color rendering/calibration, great for vids.
It's just a snappy fast fun work horse of a phone that has excellent build quality.
Lately Samsung and Google Android have been subpar... dropping balls.

That is a smoking fast phone! I may have to give this phone up and move on. But that has issues of it's own as I will still have to keep this phone around because there are a bunch of apps I won't be able to install on a new phone because I can't get my sms confirmation until I get back to South America. But not a whole lot of other options.
Thanks again,

wantpizza said:
That is a smoking fast phone! I may have to give this phone up and move on. But that has issues of it's own as I will still have to keep this phone around because there are a bunch of apps I won't be able to install on a new phone because I can't get my sms confirmation until I get back to South America. But not a whole lot of other options.
Thanks again,
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It's a true pain migrating to a new device. I hope you get that one successfully running on VoLTE.
If you like that large of a display, it's form factor is still the best. Better display to bevel ratio too. Lighter and thinner the S22U with better SOT.
Watch this vid where the N10+ literally smokes the S22U after both rams get loaded up with apps. wtf? I'll take the dinosaur Note...

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