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Hey all,
So I'm due for a phone. Currently using the HTC DNA on Verizon.
I was all about the Moto X(2014) until I heard about the Droid Turbo, which looks pretty sweet.
These are my concerns:
Moto X will probably have a larger Dev community, as the turbo is a Verizon exclusive.
The Turbo will probably have a lot more bloat than the Moto X.
The Moto X boasts a 'Pure' android experience, and while nothing has been speculated software wise on the turbo, it will likely be similar, but with a **** ton of Verizon bull****.
Does the higher resolution screen, extra gig of ram and faster processor worth it?
What are your suggestions?
Thanks
rjd584 said:
The Moto X boasts a 'Pure' android experience, and while nothing has been speculated software wise on the turbo, it will likely be similar, but with a **** ton of Verizon bull****.
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There will be no difference on bloat. The turbo may have extra droid stuff (like circle widgets and that zap thing) but moto X on vzw still comes with vzw bloat (this is based on my 2013 X having vzw bloat)
The new X has 8 Verizon apps. I have disabled 5 of them. Verizon Voicemail can not be disabled. I use the hotspot app and the Verizon mobile app to check data usage.
I'd add another phone into the mix, supposed rumors detail the Nexus 6 is coming to Verizon.
http://pocketnow.com/2014/10/02/verizon-nexus-6
rjd584 said:
Hey all,
So I'm due for a phone. Currently using the HTC DNA on Verizon.
I was all about the Moto X(2014) until I heard about the Droid Turbo, which looks pretty sweet.
These are my concerns:
Moto X will probably have a larger Dev community, as the turbo is a Verizon exclusive.
The Turbo will probably have a lot more bloat than the Moto X.
The Moto X boasts a 'Pure' android experience, and while nothing has been speculated software wise on the turbo, it will likely be similar, but with a **** ton of Verizon bull****.
Does the higher resolution screen, extra gig of ram and faster processor worth it?
What are your suggestions?
Thanks
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If you are sticking with Verizon, then the Droid. better specs, better screen, better battery. But going back to carrier lock and carrier bloat is not something I am willing to do after leaving Sprint last year. I'll be activating an X or Nexus on either T-mo or Cricket soon. Can always walk away if I'm not happy.
I bet the screen brightness will push many to the Turbo. More juice to allow a brighter display. So it was with the X/Maxx dilemma.
FYI: The manual for the Turbo leaked.
http://gizmodo.com/leaked-droid-turbo-manual-shows-a-super-powered-motorol-1644058683
I went with the X because I don't like the droid branding or the fact that it has capacitive navigation buttons, like the galaxy phones still cling to.
The one benefit of capacitive is that they can't burn in at least. I got the new moto x and love it. Might still get the Note 4 instead though. I'd rather have a 16 mp camera on Samsung then a 21 with bad software. That's the only ring Motorola can't get to be great. Camera software.
Ah man, I'm on day 13 of moto x 2014 and now news of droid turbo leaks. Better battery, hopefully more storage and same software features. Thinking about returning moto x to wait for turbo.
Turbo has good specs, but looks like moto went back in time 5 years in the design department
svtfmook said:
Turbo has good specs, but looks like moto went back in time 5 years in the design department
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Yeah, but I'll take specs over looks as long as it still feels good in the hand/pocket.
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Function over form:
Returning my moto x. I love it, but the entire package is way better on the turbo. It seems exactly like a 5 inch version of the nexus 6. I even set up an exchange for a different moto x yesterday and I contact moto today to get my money back.
Droid life is reporting that the battery code listed on the Turbo benchmark sheet relates to a 3,900mAh battery spotted in China.
Not too shabby.
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I ended up returning my moto x, hopefully these droid turbo rumors prove to be true.
Yeah, function over form, but who can feel performance difference over any flagship device out this month? I have an iPhone 6, moto x, M8 and they all perform the same. The only draw back I have is the camera on the x sucks, like really really bad and no good cases for the x. Otherwise, I like the near pure android experience of the x over sense and iOS. And the x just looks so much better than the other 2
The only reasoning I have to keep my moto x is that it's the pure edition so it will most certainly get updates quicker than the droid and it's rocking and unlocked bootloader
robstunner said:
The only reasoning I have to keep my moto x is that it's the pure edition so it will most certainly get updates quicker than the droid and it's rocking and unlocked bootloader
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Yes, the Turbo ill most assuredly have a locked bootloader, be almost impossible to Root, and probably never see anything past Android L.
But dear god, those specs.
Coronado is dead said:
Yes, the Turbo ill most assuredly have a locked bootloader, be almost impossible to Root, and probably never see anything past Android L.
But dear god, those specs.
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I'm just hoping that att version that went through the FCC is legit.
hopesrequiem said:
The one benefit of capacitive is that they can't burn in at least. I got the new moto x and love it. Might still get the Note 4 instead though. I'd rather have a 16 mp camera on Samsung then a 21 with bad software. That's the only ring Motorola can't get to be great. Camera software.
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Burn in? Lol. These aren't plasma TV screens.
So now that Android 5.0 Lollipop is announced, we get to the (impatient) waiting game.
How long do you think before 5.0 finds its way to the Moto X Pure Edition?
They said in the coming weeks for the Nexus 5/7/10 and GPE phones. My speculation is 5-10 days for Nexus, 11-17 days for GPE, 18-30 days before X PE sees the update, and another 1-2 months before it finds its way to the carrier versions.
Here is where they will announce it:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949
Note10.1Dude said:
Here is where they will announce it:
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949
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Is it just me, or is there no way to pick the Pure Edition on there? I know it doesn't matter currently, but thought it was odd.
With the original moto x pure edition it was about a month after nexus devices that the moto got its update so I would say a couple of weeks after the nexus so late Nov...
They are pushing the vanilla expierence for the pure, and one of the boasts said it would be almost days after nexus, but that cant be reliable. For someone who had rocked L on their nexus 5 it cant come soon enough.
Anyone know how long after the pure moto x (2013) got updated for the at&t moto x to get it?
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With the old moto x it was about 2 months after the pure got updated
Quick question: if I bought my phone full price does that mean it is the pure edition?
crawlgsx said:
So now that Android 5.0 Lollipop is announced, we get to the (impatient) waiting game.
How long do you think before 5.0 finds its way to the Moto X Pure Edition?
They said in the coming weeks for the Nexus 5/7/10 and GPE phones. My speculation is 5-10 days for Nexus, 11-17 days for GPE, 18-30 days before X PE sees the update, and another 1-2 months before it finds its way to the carrier versions.
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Probably long before my n7 2013 lte...
godutch said:
Probably long before my n7 2013 lte...
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It will come when it will come. All the speculation won't make it get here any faster. Moto's track record with the 2013 models, including the Droid line, was stellar. Very quick update to KitKat. My Droid Maxx got it before even the Moto X crowd.
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It will come when it will come. All the speculation won't make it get here any faster. Moto's track record with the 2013 models, including the Droid line, was stellar. Very quick update to KitKat. My Droid Maxx got it before even the Moto X crowd.
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That's what I am saying, motorola will probably even beat some nexus devices
My personal unknowing opinion, by end of next month.
Something tells me it'll be really fast.
Like, same day/next day fast (I'm talking about Pure Edition of course)
The OS on the Moto X is as bare as it can possibly be. There's nothing to port, really.
All Moto-specific features (Moto Assist, Moto Voice etc.) are separate PlayStore apps.
And Nexus 6 pretty much is Moto X, only blown up. So there's no tangible reason for one handset to get Lollipop waaay before the other.
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Quick question: if I bought my phone full price does that mean it is the pure edition?
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Only if you specifically chose the Pure Edition as an option in MotoMaker.
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nTrophy said:
Something tells me it'll be really fast.
Like, same day/next day fast (I'm talking about Pure Edition of course)
The OS on the Moto X is as bare as it can possibly be. There's nothing to port, really.
All Moto-specific features (Moto Assist, Moto Voice etc.) are separate PlayStore apps.
And Nexus 6 pretty much is Moto X, only blown up. So there's no tangible reason for one handset to get Lollipop waaay before the other.
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I mean they look the same, but they have completely different specs so saying that the N6 is a blown up Moto X is not an accurate statement.
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_MetalHead_ said:
they look the same, but they have completely different specs
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And how are they fundamentally different? 801 vs. 805? Tomayto / tomahto.
It's not like N6 has 64bit architecture or something.
nTrophy said:
Something tells me it'll be really fast.
Like, same day/next day fast (I'm talking about Pure Edition of course)
The OS on the Moto X is as bare as it can possibly be. There's nothing to port, really.
All Moto-specific features (Moto Assist, Moto Voice etc.) are separate PlayStore apps.
And Nexus 6 pretty much is Moto X, only blown up. So there's no tangible reason for one handset to get Lollipop waaay before the other.
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I am believing it'll be really fast too. Trusted devices doesn't need to be incorporated anymore. Google has their own ambient mode, so Moto could follow that. In Lollipop, the "ok Google" anytime is like Moto Voice, so perhaps less code to deal with. Lollipop looks like it does all the heavy lifting for Moto features. Motorola may have less work to do, except the camera app. They better focus on the camera app. They have no excuse since the APIs are there
sent from my Moto X (2014)
nTrophy said:
And how are they fundamentally different? 801 vs. 805? Tomayto / tomahto.
It's not like N6 has 64bit architecture or something.
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different gpu
godutch said:
different gpu
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Again, incremental update. Not too different.
Moto has the final Lollipop build and has probably already been setting it up for updating. The only thing that could hold it up would be carriers.
Sent from my Moto X 2nd Generation
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Only if you specifically chose the Pure Edition as an option in MotoMaker.
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What about if you've bought the phone sim-free off Amazon? I'm assuming that's a Pure too?
Given the hardware and capabilities of this phone, does anyone know how difficult it may or may not be to create a ROM that ports the features of the Moto X? I own the original phone, as well as briefly owned the 2014 version. I think the Moto app that lets you configure the features of the phone are much nicer than what Google does stock. As the new X and G already have 5.0, what about a Nexus 6 port? It has an AMOLED display, and the newer X doesn't have all the custom co-processors anymore that required control of the always listening and active display. Is anyone else interested in a port of the X Rom?
It would be easier to port the Moto Maxx's ROM as it is technically equivalent (display size, chipsets, etc.) But 5.0 isn't out for the Maxx yet. I'm also waiting for this to happen, a N6 with Moto Suite would seriously kick ass.
agreed..
I have been trying to get a hold of a Moto X 2014 5.0 /system/ .zip files but no one wants to sent me one to play with.
knitler said:
I have been trying to get a hold of a Moto X 2014 5.0 /system/ .zip files but no one wants to sent me one to play with.
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@knitler - check your PM
Try looking at the Lollipop OTA ZIPs in the Moto X 2014 forums. That would be a start...
i tried looking but i cant find a rom for it. but i use to have the 1st gen moto x and i absolutely loved it. I then traded in my phone for the nexus 6 which as well a great phone but, i miss the touchless command that the moto x had. I know nexus has the "ok google" feature but i always thought that the moto x had a more responsive system. My question, is there any rom for the nexus 6 that uses the moto x (1st gen or 2nd gen) touchless command in its rom?
chopper63d said:
i tried looking but i cant find a rom for it. but i use to have the 1st gen moto x and i absolutely loved it. I then traded in my phone for the nexus 6 which as well a great phone but, i miss the touchless command that the moto x had. I know nexus has the "ok google" feature but i always thought that the moto x had a more responsive system. My question, is there any rom for the nexus 6 that uses the moto x (1st gen or 2nd gen) touchless command in its rom?
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no, this is a nexus 6, not a moto x.
chopper63d said:
i tried looking but i cant find a rom for it. but i use to have the 1st gen moto x and i absolutely loved it. I then traded in my phone for the nexus 6 which as well a great phone but, i miss the touchless command that the moto x had. I know nexus has the "ok google" feature but i always thought that the moto x had a more responsive system. My question, is there any rom for the nexus 6 that uses the moto x (1st gen or 2nd gen) touchless command in its rom?
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This is as close to a moto x that you'll find and it's a WIP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3078399
Thank you.
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Evolution_Tech said:
This is as close to a moto x that you'll find and it's a WIP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3078399
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that's a moto x pro, a different phone than tbe moto x. its the moto phone with the n6 body made for the chinese market.
simms22 said:
that's a moto x pro, a different phone than tbe moto x. its the moto phone with the n6 body made for the chinese market.
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I'm well aware of that fact sir. That's why I said it's as close as it gets around here. There aren't any moto features in anything else that I'm aware of.
I have a deal of used XT1060 for 116$. Is the 2013 Moto X still worth buying? Is it still considered a "top" mobile phone?
Nadavs10 said:
I have a deal of used XT1060 for 116$. Is the 2013 Moto X still worth buying? Is it still considered a "top" mobile phone?
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Moto X (2013) is no longer considered a "top" phone. Even when it was new it was never considered a "proper flagship". But while it lacked in specs and raw power, it was the usability of the device as a whole what made it a charming phone.
I think $116 is not a bad price for one, considering it is in good/excellent condition. If you are looking for a good phone, with all the basics covered, that sits comfortably in your hand, the Moto X is the way to go. If you want raw power and good AnTuTu scores you should look somewhere else.
getting a deal on a mint dev edition moto x verizon. Will this work on gsm networks outside the states? really getting it to run cm 12.1.
ClowReedd said:
Moto X (2013) is no longer considered a "top" phone. Even when it was new it was never considered a "proper flagship". But while it lacked in specs and raw power, it was the usability of the device as a whole what made it a charming phone.
I think $116 is not a bad price for one, considering it is in good/excellent condition. If you are looking for a good phone, with all the basics covered, that sits comfortably in your hand, the Moto X is the way to go. If you want raw power and good AnTuTu scores you should look somewhere else.
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I see. I'm certainly not looking for a smartphone for gaming, but I think I'll go with the 2014 version after what you've said.
If the size of the Moto X 2014 is not a problem for you, I would recommend that one. I'm too used to 4.7" phones, so I'm still struggling to decide what device to move to from here.
If you can get it new, do it!
A 2 yo used phone could have battery issues, so I wouldn't recommend it... (The phone is however still good, with latest OS and everything you need. Except gaming raw power. But Motorola was never about raw power.)
Better Wait for few days
Moto X 2013, if you go by configuration and cheap pricing for old phone i would suggest you to go for it. But if you can add more money and wait for MOTO X Style (coming this sep) you'll get a far much better configuration which will stand out with the nxt gen OS also. Thinking ahead in 2 years.
So my suggestion go for Moto X Style.
Hmm. I love my Moto-X 1st gen (XT-1055) US Cellular. Now on Lollipop.
As for battery. It can get replaced in the future. Go to youtube and check out the videos.
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If the size of the Moto X 2014 is not a problem for you, I would recommend that one. I'm too used to 4.7" phones, so I'm still struggling to decide what device to move to from here.
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Same. Just went for the Sony Xperia z3 Compact. Had it for a couple of days. Although I miss some things about the moto x, I like this so far. We don't really have any other options haha.
Atiquefiroz said:
Moto X 2013, if you go by configuration and cheap pricing for old phone i would suggest you to go for it. But if you can add more money and wait for MOTO X Style (coming this sep) you'll get a far much better configuration which will stand out with the nxt gen OS also. Thinking ahead in 2 years.
So my suggestion go for Moto X Style.
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I just don't have that extra money for the X Style, or generally, any premium 2015 smartphone.
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If the size of the Moto X 2014 is not a problem for you, I would recommend that one. I'm too used to 4.7" phones, so I'm still struggling to decide what device to move to from here.
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Done! Moto X 2014 (Pure Edition) is now on its way. only 250$ for new sealed box. That's about twice as the 1st gen deal but it's one year younger and new from the factory.