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camera question..

hi there. recently i notice that there are green dotss and blue dotss somewhere on the picture taken from my camera.. does this mean that there are dead pixels?? or my camera become faulty??
is there anywhere to clear all the dots tat are on the picture??
sorry my english is not so good
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i had uploaded a photo that had been taken from my camera..
please have a look, there are lotsa green dots n blue dot somewhere on the picture..
how can i solve this problem??

I've got green and red dots also on my camera. Even had it on my only previous faulty device too.

Apparently I think this happens for everyone's XDA IIi or equivalent device. Is there any experts out there who can explain the cause?

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thats called Sensor Noise! because the photo sensor on mobile devices is so small if you try and take a picture in a dark environment you'll get noise!
try taking a pic in an environment with plenty of light :wink:
if you want a decent picture spend a few $$ on a decent camera

i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss

You can't upgrade the internal camera, there are no direct replacements. If you look at the Hi-res images I got of the Alpine you'll see the sort of size and shape of camera required and I very much doubt there'll be others the same or similar shape/size. If there are then you need to add the data ribbon to connect it.
Overall go to an Elec store and buy a dedicated camera.

I don't agree. Motorola V3 has a camera as small as XDAIIi and the pictures are awesome. Lenses are a determinant factor in quality. I personaly have a Canon DC20 that takes wonderfull photos but I would like to get better photos with my XDAIIi. Why not get better results wiyh ours devices? Converging functions in one device is helpfull to mobile professionals. BTW, tweaking the camera settings in registry makes the photos much better. See this forum for more information.

tlazymoon said:
i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss
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I think that there is no problem on your camara. note that if you want to have a good picture you must chose the best index light in setting of the camara for example; ambience: night or flourescent... and the cature mode, cature size..

tlazymoon said:
i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss
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The camera isnt that good but you are never going to get great pics from a lens that size and indoor pics are always going to be grainy without a flash tho you should be getting better pics than those you have so far
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Do a search for AtekSoft's CoolCamera. It allows quite a few more options than the default. There may be better camera replacement software out there, but I havn't found it yet.

Ateksoft is the one most Cooooooooool Camera software.....

From what I understand, O2 included a camera 'upgrade' in their extrom (which installs whenever you hard reset), which actually makes the camera quality WORSE. I've not tested it myself, as I'm quite happy with my phone setup as it is and really don't want to hard reset AGAIN, but some users report that flashing their device with the firmware which doesn't include this camera upgrade makes their camera quality better.
Also, you have to bear in mind that pretty much all cameras use cheap and nasty CMOS sensor technology (what low-quality webcams use) - the resolution and light sensitivity of CMOS technology is REALLY poor compared to CCD, but CCD tech is much more expensive and sucks up more battery power (hence CMOS technology being more widespread in the mobile industry).
Better quality cameras are starting to appear, and the quality of the k750i camera continues to astound me when I see my friends' photos. It won't be long though, I remember seeing articles about lenses made with a tiny suspension of water inbetween two nanometre-thick layers of plastic, to which an electric current could be applied to make the water change shape, acting as an optical lens... This kind of technology will drastically increase the quality and cost-effectiveness of higher-end portable, miniature camera technology, and I can't wait until it becomes widespread.

4.4.2 Camera quality poll

Ok guy's I wanted to start a poll regarding the camera quality since 4.4.2.
I love my nexus 5 but I found the camera when it was stock 4.4 was impressive even in low light with the flash, However because so many people were complaining about the speed of it taking shots (it didn't bother me as long as it took nice photo's) Now google have responded with 4.4.2 and speeded the camera shot process however the image quality has reduced by some margin even in well lit area's,
So basically this is a poll to gauge who wants to take better quality photo's or faster photo's
Personally I couldn't care less how long it took as long they were good quality photo's...

Makes me glad I got the phone about the same time 4.4.2 came out

Requesting new poll option: Use a different camera app and be able to do both. No need to be limited by the automatic settings.

bblzd said:
Requesting new poll option: Use a different camera app and be able to do both. No need to be limited by the automatic settings.
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The trouble is as far as I know there is no 3rd party app that uses HDR+ mode.

Ady1976 said:
The trouble is as far as I know there is no 3rd party app that uses HDR+ mode.
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u can't tell the difference if u use HDR Camera+ and Snap Camera HDR

hello00 said:
u can't tell the difference if u use HDR Camera+ and Snap Camera HDR
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Does that app have Jpeg compression settings level similar to Camera JB+ ?

Ady1976 said:
Does that app have Jpeg compression settings level similar to Camera JB+ ?
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im not sure..maybe if u get the paid version for both of them

hello00 said:
im not sure..maybe if u get the paid version for both of them
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Thanks I shall have a look at that and compare some daylight and night shots.

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I for one am not updating to 4.4.1, or 4.4.2. I have no complaints with the release software. Who gives a **** about how good the stock photos are. If you care even marginally about image quality then you should know how to properly edit a photo. Simple as that. I love this phone.

Day shots are as good as before, night shots are worse, more noise and it's just not impressive anymore. I'd take the slower shutter for night shots anytime, and keep the new behavior for daylight shots.
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At least for me, low light camera shots look extremely better in HDR+ with the 4.4.2 update over the 4.4 release, but I can't tell a difference on day shots
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Sirgatory said:
I for one am not updating to 4.4.1, or 4.4.2. I have no complaints with the release software. Who gives a **** about how good the stock photos are. If you care even marginally about image quality then you should know how to properly edit a photo. Simple as that. I love this phone.
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That's exactly my point, I was extremely happy with stock 4.4, Camera was fine and video's were great so I'm gauging who prefers quality over speed of shots.
Question ? When your in the market for a compact camera what is end users primary concern ? How good the images are ? Or how fast it take shots ? Exactly point proved and judging from the results of the poll so far looks like I'm not alone either.

rayiskon said:
Day shots are as good as before, night shots are worse, more noise and it's just not impressive anymore. I'd take the slower shutter for night shots anytime, and keep the new behavior for daylight shots.
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Agreed, they boosted the ISO because they increase the shutter speed in low light thus images turns up pretty noisy. What's the point of having OIS when it can't use it? It's better to have slower shutter and low ISO to make the image sharper and less noise in dark environment, just make the OIS more aggressive, come on Google don't fail me now

I came from the HTC One and iPhone 5s. I dumped both for the N5 that I purchased used that was already updated to 4.4.2.
The noise level is way too high. Day or night. Focus issues are still present. What's worst is that I can never get a clean, clear shot. I don't even want to transfer the images taken from the N5 to the computer because I know it will be a lot worse than what I see on my phone.
I purchased Camera Awesome. Didn't do anything to help with the issue. Does anyone else have any suggestions as to a better app to use? Or a mod for a previous version?
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I prefer faster shots. With 4.4 I almost went nuts... especially in dark areas it was almost impossible to focus. So for me I accept the 5% worse quality and get 100% faster shots.

Very impressed with day shots, have yet to try a night shot, but I did notice the screen was much darker.
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Pictures is good, but in update i lost so good video quality, now camcorder is so dark, cant see the thing when there dark environment. And i dont know why
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Whatever they did to the camera they need to revert it. All photos shouldn't look like they were taken with an ISO of 800.
EDIT: It's worse than I thought. A relatively bright photo = ISO 1336.

I prefer the quicker photo's. I don't need a camera to take pictures of my dinner or a flower. Anyone who has kids is definitley enjoying the update.
If you look through the picture thread here the majority of the pics are people's food. I don't really need to keep a picture journal of what I eat. lol

Any word on software updates to optimize/improve Camera?

I remember during the Idol 3 launch that there were issues initially (DTTW not working, snapchat bugs, etc) that were addressed in subsequent updates. These things were swept under the rug for reviewers but for people who actually owned the phone, they were able to benefit.
Currently my main concern is the camera and I was curious if anyone has heard any news on Alcatel working to try and improve the OIS or low-light capabilities via software (if that is even possible).

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I remember during the Idol 3 launch that there were issues initially (DTTW not working, snapchat bugs, etc) that were addressed in subsequent updates. These things were swept under the rug for reviewers but for people who actually owned the phone, they were able to benefit.
Currently my main concern is the camera and I was curious if anyone has heard any news on Alcatel working to try and improve the OIS or low-light capabilities via software (if that is even possible).
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I don't have this exactly device, but I have the twin brother (Vodafone Smart Platinum 7) and I wrote to a Vodafone customer manager about this.
They told me they will talk with the people in the software department, and maybe in a future they can improve a little the software, but the lack of hardware can't be fixed with software.
My main complain was that the photos most of the time are blurry when trying to see the details, and that we have no stabilization for 60fps and 2K-4K.

Galaxo60 said:
I don't have this exactly device, but I have the twin brother (Vodafone Smart Platinum 7) and I wrote to a Vodafone customer manager about this.
They told me they will talk with the people in the software department, and maybe in a future they can improve a little the software, but the lack of hardware can't be fixed with software.
My main complain was that the photos most of the time are blurry when trying to see the details, and that we have no stabilization for 60fps and 2K-4K.
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Thanks. I've heard good things about the Vodafone version. I currently have the Idol 3, and coming from the Nexus 4 before that, it was a big improvement in terms of photo quality. I've been using my Idol 3 for photos a lot recently and although it is great for well-lit, non-moving objects, I have become more aware of the lower quality pics in low-light and blurry pics in general when there is slight movement. I think the Idol 4S is a step up in terms of quality but still leaves something to be desired overall.
Recently I ended up getting a reasonably-priced digital camera which takes great photos. It really illustrated how good a camera can be. I might just get the Idol 4S and carry my digital camera with me for special occasions.

Updated yesterday to version 010 02 with the august security patches with the Mobile Upgrade Q desktop programm. Camera seems better imo opinion (at least with sufficient light!) and overall performance seems faster and snappier then before. Caution: upgrading with Q will flash the whole rom and wipes the device!. Idol 4S 6070K Netherlands. Realy love the devices`s performance and especialy the great speakers

Saw a video review with a blind comparison to the S7 for photos/videos.
Lowlight is pretty meh and video bounces around a lot, but the well lit areas really give the S7 a run for it's money.
It sounds like the key to using the camera is A) Good lighting and B)Keep a steady hand

macallik said:
Saw a video review with a blind comparison to the S7 for photos/videos.
Lowlight is pretty meh and video bounces around a lot, but the well lit areas really give the S7 a run for it's money.
It sounds like the key to using the camera is A) Good lighting and B)Keep a steady hand
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Pretty much is about the steady hand, because with this you can make nice pictures.
I attach some pictures I made with the phone.
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This pic is stunning. Thanks for sharing

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This pic is stunning. Thanks for sharing
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As long as you keep it steady, it indeed does a good job.
HRD is really nice for low lights situations, but again, you must be really steady when taking the pictures.
Regarding the manual mode, is also nice to play with it and you can get some nice results as well.

Manual mode is great for macro and long exposure shots. My friend who works for TCL told me an update to Android Nougat is already under development but no release date is known as of yet.

HughJanus said:
Manual mode is great for macro and long exposure shots. My friend who works for TCL told me an update to Android Nougat is already under development but no release date is known as of yet.
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TBH when my Idol 3 updated to MM, my cell reception went wonky so I am in no rush.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Lenovo P2 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I wonder what sensor the phone is using. The EU version P2A42 is using the Sony IMX258. But the P2C72 (Chinese global version seems to be using the Sony Exmor RS)?

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I wonder what sensor the phone is using. The EU version P2A42 is using the Sony IMX258. But the P2C72 (Chinese global version seems to be using the Sony Exmor RS)?
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Do you have any reference for that info? I didn't see any hardware specs that confirm it.

https://www3.lenovo.com/in/en/smartphones/p-series/Vibe-Lenovo-P2/p/PPIPPIP2C72
it says only Sony camera, but not which one :-/
here http://www.livemint.com/Leisure/JGS...amera-proves-just-megapixels-dont-matter.html it says that it is Sony IMX258

Photos taken by P2 are awful. They have lots of noises even on the lowest ISO and they lack details. Camera is the biggest disadvantage of this smartfone. But I love it anyway because of battery and performance.

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Do you have any reference for that info? I didn't see any hardware specs that confirm it.
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Strange on kimovil there was other info. The chinese version had a Sony Exmor.
https://www.kimovil.com/en/compare/lenovo-vibe-p2,lenovo-vibe-p2-32gb
Now both are 1:1 the same.. Hmm. But yeah anyways my old phone had a better camera. I was kinda disappointed, and also the software is terrible. It's full of bugs, I will root this sucker soon.

The rear camera is imx258 and the front camera is a ov5695.

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P2's low light camera performance can be noticeably improved!
If your P2 is rooted and you have enabled Camera2 Api, please try yourself a Snap Camera HDR app ( It's avaiable in a Play Store in both Trial and Pro version, you can also find pro version cracked, erm...let's say, in the Internet. )
I've found this guy's guide in the Redmi Note 4 thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/redmi-note-4/themes/google-camerawith-hdr-mido-t3656196/post74676264#post74676264. My phone is running the unofficial LOS 14.1 and...it really makes a diffrence.
Photos are being made for over a second and then about 10 seconds takes processing them (you can made another photo in the meantime).
All of these photos were made without any tripod, sometimes I sat down or leaned against the lamppost/wall but nothing really crazy(maybe 30 photos). Some photos are maybe a bit out of focus after close-up (EDIT: After seeing photos in the laptop I think that photos without "tap to focus" tend to be a bit sharper) and some of them are a little overexpossed after touch-to-focus (They don't after pressing the camera button without tapping to focus before), anyway you can play with a metering area setting(I wasn't), but...see it for yourself.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157690966808425/
The P2 didn't magically became the S8 or the flagship camera but in my opinion photos are acceptable now.
What do you think?

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If your P2 is rooted and you have enabled Camera2 Api, please try yourself a Snap Camera HDR app ( It's avaiable in a Play Store in both Trial and Pro version, you can also find pro version cracked, erm...let's say, in the Internet. )
I've found this guy's guide in the Redmi Note 4 thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...-hdr-mido-t3656196/post74676264#post74676264. My phone is running the unofficial LOS 14.1 and...it really makes a diffrence.
Photos are being made for over a second and then about 10 seconds takes processing them (you can made another photo in the meantime).
All of these photos were made without any tripod, sometimes I sat down or leaned against the lamppost/wall but nothing really crazy(maybe 30 photos). Some photos are maybe a bit out of focus after close-up (EDIT: After seeing photos in the laptop I think that photos without "tap to focus" tend to be a bit sharper) and some of them are a little overexpossed after touch-to-focus (They don't after pressing the camera button without tapping to focus before), anyway you can play with a metering area setting(I wasn't), but...see it for yourself.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157690966808425/
The P2 didn't magically became the S8 or the flagship camera but in my opinion photos are acceptable now.
What do you think?
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Have you tried the Google camera hdr app?

Yes, I have. HDR+ doesn't work.

Disable Face Focus Front Camera?

Hello
Is there anyway to stop the front camera only focusing on faces? I take a lot of product photos where I hold the product up to the camera with myself behind. The camera won't focus on the product, always my face, no matter how far back I am or how much of the product is in shot. It could 80/20 product/me and the camera will still lock onto my face. It's really annoying.

Seaniselectric said:
Hello
Is there anyway to stop the front camera only focusing on faces? I take a lot of product photos where I hold the product up to the camera with myself behind. The camera won't focus on the product, always my face, no matter how far back I am or how much of the product is in shot. It could 80/20 product/me and the camera will still lock onto my face. It's really annoying.
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Maybe you are just using Portrait mode. Just untoggle the symbol on the left or switch to Photo Mode.

Would be nice to be able to disable the automatic face recognition as well so you can take more natural selfies..

Don't use portrait mode. It's really screwy with extra faces at different distances too.
Just switch to photo mode.
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Portrait then photo mode.
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Is there anyway to stop the front camera only focusing on faces? I take a lot of product photos where I hold the product up to the camera with myself behind. The camera won't focus on the product, always my face, no matter how far back I am or how much of the product is in shot. It could 80/20 product/me and the camera will still lock onto my face. It's really annoying.
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Hmm, maybe due to the fact that this camera does NOT have auto focus on the selfie cam? [emoji39]
It's a fixed focus cam[emoji16]
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Hmm, maybe due to the fact that this camera does NOT have auto focus on the selfie cam? [emoji39]
It's a fixed focus cam[emoji16]
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This.
The phone focuses from about 20cm to infinity, with best focus between 30-50cm.
In photography its called zonal focusing, a technique used with fixed aperture settings.
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orangecroc said:
This.
The phone focuses from about 20cm to infinity, with best focus between 30-50cm.
In photography its called zonal focusing, a technique used with fixed aperture settings.
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True... To be honest, I think that this is a big minus for this phone. We are talking about a 2018 flagship with EXCELLENT photo capabilities in the main camera and great specs overall and I think it's a pitty that Huawei did not put an af front camera, but thank god I hate selfies and I love photography, being a slr freak for the last 15 years, so this phone suits me at least. ??
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True... To be honest, I think that this is a big minus for this phone. We are talking about a 2018 flagship with EXCELLENT photo capabilities in the main camera and great specs overall and I think it's a pitty that Huawei did not put an af front camera, but thank god I hate selfies and I love photography, being a slr freak for the last 15 years, so this phone suits me at least. ??
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Same here. I tend to use the rear camera with the volume down shutter release if I must take a selfie.
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I want myself in the back, soft focus reaching toward the camera with the product so you can read the bottle label. You can't do this with the front camera on this phone it would appear. Like someone mentioned, it's a fixed focus, and you have to be quite far back to focus in.
This isn't possible with front camera is it? - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFn_nJ4UwAAxhjv.jpg

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I want myself in the back, soft focus reaching toward the camera with the product so you can read the bottle label. You can't do this with the front camera on this phone it would appear. Like someone mentioned, it's a fixed focus, and you have to be quite far back to focus in.
This isn't possible with front camera is it? - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFn_nJ4UwAAxhjv.jpg
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Νope, unfortunately ain't possible and will never change due to hardware...
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Use the rear camera instead, it produces better photos anyway.
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Portrait then photo mode. View attachment 4530850View attachment 4530851
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organcecroc, you showed 2 selfie photos seamingly taken with your Huawei P20 Pro. Were those 2 pictures taken from the front camera or the back camera?
Because your second photo in Photo mode, with sharp background is totally impossible with my P20 Pro; I always get unsharp background...
IF you took the photos with the selfie camera, how did you manage to get the background that sharp? Just selecting the Photo-mode (instead of the Portrait-mode) did not do the trick for me...

DaveCool said:
organcecroc, you showed 2 selfie photos seamingly taken with your Huawei P20 Pro. Were those 2 pictures taken from the front camera or the back camera?
Because your second photo in Photo mode, with sharp background is totally impossible with my P20 Pro; I always get unsharp background...
IF you took the photos with the selfie camera, how did you manage to get the background that sharp? Just selecting the Photo-mode (instead of the Portrait-mode) did not do the trick for me...
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I used the rear camera.
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