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camera question..

hi there. recently i notice that there are green dotss and blue dotss somewhere on the picture taken from my camera.. does this mean that there are dead pixels?? or my camera become faulty??
is there anywhere to clear all the dots tat are on the picture??
sorry my english is not so good
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i had uploaded a photo that had been taken from my camera..
please have a look, there are lotsa green dots n blue dot somewhere on the picture..
how can i solve this problem??

I've got green and red dots also on my camera. Even had it on my only previous faulty device too.

Apparently I think this happens for everyone's XDA IIi or equivalent device. Is there any experts out there who can explain the cause?

:lol:
thats called Sensor Noise! because the photo sensor on mobile devices is so small if you try and take a picture in a dark environment you'll get noise!
try taking a pic in an environment with plenty of light :wink:
if you want a decent picture spend a few $$ on a decent camera

i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss

You can't upgrade the internal camera, there are no direct replacements. If you look at the Hi-res images I got of the Alpine you'll see the sort of size and shape of camera required and I very much doubt there'll be others the same or similar shape/size. If there are then you need to add the data ribbon to connect it.
Overall go to an Elec store and buy a dedicated camera.

I don't agree. Motorola V3 has a camera as small as XDAIIi and the pictures are awesome. Lenses are a determinant factor in quality. I personaly have a Canon DC20 that takes wonderfull photos but I would like to get better photos with my XDAIIi. Why not get better results wiyh ours devices? Converging functions in one device is helpfull to mobile professionals. BTW, tweaking the camera settings in registry makes the photos much better. See this forum for more information.

tlazymoon said:
i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss
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I think that there is no problem on your camara. note that if you want to have a good picture you must chose the best index light in setting of the camara for example; ambience: night or flourescent... and the cature mode, cature size..

tlazymoon said:
i had try out taking a picture somewhere brighter, but the result still same.. here's the picture i had taken.
by the way, how can i upgrade my xdaIIi's camera to the type of camera u mention ?? upgrade it from o2 service department ??
thankss
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The camera isnt that good but you are never going to get great pics from a lens that size and indoor pics are always going to be grainy without a flash tho you should be getting better pics than those you have so far
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Do a search for AtekSoft's CoolCamera. It allows quite a few more options than the default. There may be better camera replacement software out there, but I havn't found it yet.

Ateksoft is the one most Cooooooooool Camera software.....

From what I understand, O2 included a camera 'upgrade' in their extrom (which installs whenever you hard reset), which actually makes the camera quality WORSE. I've not tested it myself, as I'm quite happy with my phone setup as it is and really don't want to hard reset AGAIN, but some users report that flashing their device with the firmware which doesn't include this camera upgrade makes their camera quality better.
Also, you have to bear in mind that pretty much all cameras use cheap and nasty CMOS sensor technology (what low-quality webcams use) - the resolution and light sensitivity of CMOS technology is REALLY poor compared to CCD, but CCD tech is much more expensive and sucks up more battery power (hence CMOS technology being more widespread in the mobile industry).
Better quality cameras are starting to appear, and the quality of the k750i camera continues to astound me when I see my friends' photos. It won't be long though, I remember seeing articles about lenses made with a tiny suspension of water inbetween two nanometre-thick layers of plastic, to which an electric current could be applied to make the water change shape, acting as an optical lens... This kind of technology will drastically increase the quality and cost-effectiveness of higher-end portable, miniature camera technology, and I can't wait until it becomes widespread.

Camera Photo Taking - Quality is bad

Hi fellows,
Anyone can elighten me here? when i use the camera and take a photo, when I go and view the photo, it is not the same quality I saw on the display, for some reason when the photo is saved, it is smudge, anyone encounter a similar situation? This happen more when photo is taken at night, it seems that the saving process damages the quality of the photo
Any feedback welcome
Thanks

First of all, appreciate that the size of the lens of the camera is so small, not so much light is going through it. So, especially at night, it will be hard to get nice pictures. This is not a camera with a phone, it is a phone with a camera!
Another issue is when you press the shutter release - squeezing your finger shakes the camera a bit, and this is something many camera users have to bear with. One idea is to use the timer for this instance, and place the Kaiser somewhere steady. Also, be aware that from the time you press the shutter release until it takes the picture does take longer than many dedicated cameras, so when you are doing your best to hold your camera still, be sure to do it long enough. I did that same error in the beginning, moving the camera even before it had taken the picture. Just keep it still for another second before you do anything else.

Poor Lighting
Overall I must say that I am very satisfied with the quality of the camera on my Tilt. However, this camera does seem to be more sensitive to poor lighting conditions than my 8125 was. This could either be caused by the absence of a flash or that the camera lens is 3MP instead of 1.3, and for that reason, picks up more flaws.
Any pictures I take outdoors with my Tilt turn out great. Actually the video recording is pretty damn good too. Indoors pictures tend to pickup a lot of "color noise" (Red, Green, Blue specs in the image) when taken.
I don't know which model phone you upgraded from, but another difference between the camera on the 8125 and the Tilt is that we now have an auto-focus lens, and that increases the time required to capture the image.
In the end, I am very satisfied with the camera on my Tilt, but as usual these comments based on my experiences only.

NotATreoFan said:
Overall I must say that I am very satisfied with the quality of the camera on my Tilt. However, this camera does seem to be more sensitive to poor lighting conditions than my 8125 was. This could either be caused by the absence of a flash or that the camera lens is 3MP instead of 1.3, and for that reason, picks up more flaws.
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I've taken photos in bright sunlight outside and still gotten grainy/noisy photos, so I agree the camera is worse than the Hermes/8525 even w/o flash.
Richard

I think the camera is GREAT for a cell phone camera.
Here is a picture taken with my camera the other day. To me, it looks very good for what it is.
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grizzley said:
Here is a picture taken with my camera the other day. To me, it looks very good for what it is.
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See, that's what we're talking about - look at the sky?!?!?!?!? Yeah, cell phones are crappy cameras but WTF is that? Your subject shows it a little on things like the tree trunk, etc, but it's horrible artifacting
Richard

It's a cell phone... I was drinking.... It's only 3MP.
As far as I am concerned, it's a good camera. We are the newest owners of the latest technology that still needs to be fine tuned. How many other cell phones have 3MP cameras?

I think the camera is very good... MUCH better than many other phones I've seen......
Take a look at this samples with my kaiser..
http://personales.ya.com/aliste/kaiser/pruebas1.zip
Set the quality to finest, and be quiet when you take the photo..

so, I see that you like basic batteries, you have rusted keys, need more duct tape and like boring books. You can find a mate at match.com

grizzley said:
so, I see that you like basic batteries, you have rusted keys, need more duct tape and like boring books. You can find a mate at match.com
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that's not completely true... ;-)
I was simply trying macro capabilities
But take a look to this other samples (landscapes)... remember this is not a canon EOS, but it is a great camera for a mobile phone!
http://personales.ya.com/aliste/kaiser/pruebas2.zip

I think the tilt takes damn good pictures for a camera phone, but video recording is better on the 8525!

grizzley said:
I think the camera is GREAT for a cell phone camera.
Here is a picture taken with my camera the other day. To me, it looks very good for what it is.
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Although only 2MP, the Hermes has a better camera. Here's one sample:

Yea, I think you are correct... not too bad for 2MP!

I think the best setting for the camera to take good pictures is @ 1600X1200, with quality set to fine.
Here are some of my pics:

grizzley said:
Yea, I think you are correct... not too bad for 2MP!
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Yep, so coming from that to the Kaiser hurts. There's a lot more to a camera than Megapixels! Hopefully these Kaiser issues can be fixed either in firmware or with camera settings.... I just noticed the Adjustment page has Sharpness set at +3, I wonder if the minimum (+1) would provide better results?
Richard

Anyone who thinks the pictures taken by the 3.2MP camera on the Tytn II is even half decent has got rocks in there head. Take a look at some pictures taken with Sony Ericsons phones.
http://flickr.com/cameras/sonyericsson/
Nice landscape on a 3.2MP k800i
See what a good 2MP can do.(k750i/w800i)
I miss my k800i I lost that has now been replaced with a TytnII. The TytnII does a lot of great things the k800i did not but taken pictures is where the TytnII falls drastically short of the k800i and other SE phones.

The video is terrible. The 8525 camera was way better. When I try to record everything looks sluggish.

i can almost assure you guys that when coolcamera will support the kaiser we will see a big improvement.
were those 8525 pictures taken with coolcamera?
o and here's my sample pics on modaco:
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocke...n/260817/Sample-Pics-of-the-ATT-Tilt-Kaiser-/

mikeeey said:
i can almost assure you guys that when coolcamera will support the kaiser we will see a big improvement.
were those 8525 pictures taken with coolcamera?
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Mine were not - I didn't see any reason to pay for another camera app on my Hermes.... if it really cleans up the Kaiser images, I could be convinced otherwise
Richard

rsolomon said:
I just noticed the Adjustment page has Sharpness set at +3, I wonder if the minimum (+1) would provide better results?
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This is the well-known adjustment on the Hermes camera that makes the difference between sh*tty and good photos. And in older Hermes ROMs, this setting is not saved so you have to adjust it everytime you start the camera. I use the lowest Sharpness setting also on my TyTN II but unfortunately it doesn't give the same improvement as on the Hermes, just a little better.

Camera struggles to focus

Hello,
I simply love my moto g but the same cannot be said about the camera. I find that the camera struggles to focus especially during close ups. I wonder if this is a problem with moto g camera module or should it be fixed via the next update? Tried Google camera also. Same problem.
Sent from my XT1068 using XDA Free mobile app

srprashant91 said:
Hello,
I simply love my moto g but the same cannot be said about the camera. I find that the camera struggles to focus especially during close ups. I wonder if this is a problem with moto g camera module or should it be fixed via the next update? Tried Google camera also. Same problem.
Sent from my XT1068 using XDA Free mobile app
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Are you using the drag to focus (or tap to focus for google camera)? although I've just tested mine and mine is focusing and refocusing between distance and very close automatically no problem.
I did read on another thread that it focuses using differences between shapes so focusing on a plain uniform surface won't be very reliable.

What do you intend for "close"?
I take some photos at 25, 20, 15, 10 and 5 cm
The best distance is 25cm. Under this distance it can't focus properly.
Google Camera
http://imgur.com/dU6Rw5a,48MiVAd,g9CXRH0,cz6e6Sk,S8mNRYq
Motorola Camera with Autofocus
http://imgur.com/ZMwss7V,vXRXHkR,nkMA3Qm,yJAEXe8,EVuKEcS
Motorola Camera with " Square Brackets" Focus
http://imgur.com/9Sq7wyG,a5rywKI,s6KMVyw,dqlnTTO,87178W9
Best way to take macro is 25cm and zoom when the photo is done.
I miss the lumia camera for this, 735 had a wonderful focus:
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Jhyrachy said:
What do you intend for "close"?
I take some photos at 25, 20, 15, 10 and 5 cm
The best distance is 25cm. Under this distance it can't focus properly.
Google Camera
http://imgur.com/dU6Rw5a,48MiVAd,g9CXRH0,cz6e6Sk,S8mNRYq
Motorola Camera with Autofocus
http://imgur.com/ZMwss7V,vXRXHkR,nkMA3Qm,yJAEXe8,EVuKEcS
Motorola Camera with " Square Brackets" Focus
http://imgur.com/9Sq7wyG,a5rywKI,s6KMVyw,dqlnTTO,87178W9
Best way to take macro is 25cm and zoom when the photo is done.
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Depends, mine can focus clearly all the way to ~6cm from the subject but the way the phone focuses it requires a definite 'hard contrast area' to focus on, although in your examples you do seem to have that (assuming you're trying to focus on the corner of the object above), if you try to focus on an area without much 'change' in the surface it won't focus.

Could you share a pic with 6cm focus please?

I still sincerely hope they fix the camera in the upcoming update. The camera on the moto g is a major let down despite being an improvement over the previous generation in terms of resoultion.
Sent from my XT1068 using XDA Free mobile app

Jhyrachy said:
Could you share a pic with 6cm focus please?
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http://i.imgur.com/JlyQMdt.jpg
I only said approx 6cm, if you see the actual focus is just past 6cm and from testing earlier it will reliably focus at 7cm providing the light is good. You need plenty of light and hard edges for it to focus properly and you have to put the auto/manual focus directly on the hard edge for it to focus.

jay2the1 said:
http://i.imgur.com/JlyQMdt.jpg
I only said approx 6cm, if you see the actual focus is just past 6cm and from testing earlier it will reliably focus at 7cm providing the light is good. You need plenty of light and hard edges for it to focus properly and you have to put the auto/manual focus directly on the hard edge for it to focus.
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Really nice!
Do you used stock camera?

Jhyrachy said:
Really nice!
Do you used stock camera?
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Thanks , yep I use the stock camera I've just updated to the new version and the results are the same, I have Google Camera installed for photospheres but don't use it otherwise.

I have copied your method, this is my best result so far: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-...cqJYQ/w643-h857-no/IMG_20141026_221648051.jpg

srprashant91 said:
Hello,
I simply love my moto g but the same cannot be said about the camera. I find that the camera struggles to focus especially during close ups. I wonder if this is a problem with moto g camera module or should it be fixed via the next update? Tried Google camera also. Same problem.
Sent from my XT1068 using XDA Free mobile app
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I have the same problem............

Just got this for my wife to.replace her old iPhone 4S. So far she is very unimpressed by the camera quality and the lack of focus accross the room. As it shifts through focal lengths it can get a crisp pictire but autofocus never stops at the right spot.
*edit* just purchased Camera FV-5. Had to boost the contrast and saturation in the app, but focusing is way better.

I too have this problem, I sometimes need to quickly take pictures of a page in a book for a quote, and the camera simply won't focus on the text at all. The moto g turbo used to do a great job, I thought I was getting an upgrade, but the g 4 plus camera focus on close objects and text is horrendous. Do you think an update will fix it?

iOS user having 3T doubts

Been using my 3T for two days now. Haven't sold my 6S, though the plan was to use the funds I would've got from that to cover the cost of the 3T.
The reason being is I'm having a few doubts. I'm no stranger to Android, as the majority of my smartphone's have been Android, and the first iPhone I bought was in January 2015.
I don't particularly miss any of the iOS features such as iMessage and Facetime, as WhatsApp pretty much covers those, 3D Touch was quite handy but this has gestures instead.
My issues are, I guess, the camera; OIS, mic quality, security, Android Pay.
Camera wise, on paper the 3T is better than my 6S without OIS, but so far it struggles to take pictures without some form of motion blur. Recording, the mic isn't as good either. Also read reports of the camera hump falling off, at least on the 3.
I'm also a little concerned with security, I've had way more pop ups / apps being forced on me in the past two days, than I would have using the iPhone for the same amount of time. Though I heard Nougat is as secure as iOS now?
Oh and I can't get Android Pay to work. Well I managed it by accident, held the phone on the same way as I normally works with the 6S, and nothing. Ended up waving the phone around whilst unlocked until it registered.
Not sure if am looking for faults because Apple have sold their products and OS on me, or if the 6S just is a better device...
... though it can't compete with the 3T's screen, Dash charge, fast fingerprint scanner and battery life.
Miss my Autodesk Graphic app though
Need convincing I've made the right choice, thanks guys

I got my OP3T a couple days ago and I love it.
First off, there is no such thing as a perfect phone, but this one comes pretty close.
Camera - From my testing with the camer on my phone, I think that the main camera is VERY sensitive to motion. YOu need a steady hand to take good pics. However the front facing camera is really good and pics don't come out distorted at all. I think reall all you need is to find a camera app with good stabilization and you will be good.
Microphone - don't really use this, but I don't think it's a problem. I know phone quality is really good and clear for me. There are apps and mods that can probably help out with tweaking the mic
Security - just like anything, with time anything can be hacked. Keep in mind that oneplus 3T is a dev friendly phone. Most other phone manufacturers cringe on letting users modify their phone. Certainly Apple is very much opposed to that as well. Now your popup issue might be something else. There are a lot of popup blockers you can use. I use and recommend Ad Guard pro. It blocks ads and popups in browsers and in apps.
Here is what it comes down to... Do you use your phone more for pictures and video or pretty much anything else? If it's the later, than honestly you can go wrong with the OP3T. If you use it for photos and videos more, then maybe you can research some apps to see if there is anything out there that is worth using to make better pics.

It's funny because I bought a 64gb iPhone 6S plus today to resell and honestly it feels ancient compared to my 3t .

I have natural steady hands..
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Not the best photo obviously lol but it can take great pictures. Any good photographer can take a picture with anything and make it look amazing, camera is sensitive to motion but software update can fix this. No problems with video it looks and sounds very clear not o mention videos are very steady.
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It looks way better on my device
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zingxao said:
Oh and I can't get Android Pay to work. Well I managed it by accident, held the phone on the same way as I normally works with the 6S, and nothing. Ended up waving the phone around whilst unlocked until it registered.
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The NFC sensor is behind the camera. I used it for a purchase 2 hours ago and it was fine. You just have to hold the camera up to the sensor for a few seconds and it should work. You don't even need to open the app. Just need to unlock your phone and have NFC on.
Hope you keep the device

Dxo review is out

It's here https://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/OnePlus-5-review-A-serious-shooter

ITT:
Dxo gives a good score: "Paid reviews lost all my respect for dxo, oneplus sucks"
Dxo gives a bad score: "Lol I knew this camera was crap, oneplus sucks"

ZakooZ said:
ITT:
Dxo gives a good score: "Paid reviews lost all my respect for dxo, oneplus sucks"
Dxo gives a bad score: "Lol I knew this camera was crap, oneplus sucks"
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Lol yeah, dammed if you do, dammed if you don't...

https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/883001008191754240

I don't think they ever switched to 4k for video... Stabilization is ? on 4k right now

B3501 said:
https://twitter.com/RDR0b11/status/883001008191754240
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David R from Android Police thinks the score was bought. That's pretty damming!

XDA's take on it https://www.xda-developers.com/dxomark-reviews-oneplus-5-camera-quality-gives-it-a-score-of-87/

A question - is EIS enabled on 1080p at 60fps, only on 1080p at 30fps, or both?

mrasquinho said:
A question - is EIS enabled on 1080p at 60fps, only on 1080p at 30fps, or both?
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Only in [email protected]

Have to say looking at the shot of the chap in the hat, the S8 looks superior in every way, it's a landslide.
for me the only problem with the camera is the lack of OIS, coming from the HTC 10 it's a noticeable loss.
Driving down the road (passenger) I can zoom and focus on an object in the distance with minimal effort and no wobble, the oneplus just can't do that, you would have to be gravity free and a dead object in order to get the same stability.
Other than that I think the camera is decent, oh and the odd weird water colour effect when zoomed in.
Might do a comparison video

To be expected, the camera certainly isn't exceptional but it still is pretty good. The big problem was that 1+ hyped up so much how good the camera was going to turn out to be that the expectations most people set out, weren't going to be met. But that's entirely 1+ fault for putting so much focus on promoting the camera.
The irony I find in all this is that had 1+ focused on a single lens camera, maybe they could have added hardware OIS, a larger pixel sensor and with the added bonus that they could have installed the display right side up, thus preventing the jelly effect some users experience. Considering the two highest scoring phones on DxOMark have single lens cameras, it's very probable that the camera could have turned out to be as good or even better than the U11 or Pixel.

coming from a note4
I was very impressed with tne oneplus5 in just about every way (the screen was just ok), except the camera. I wanted to keep this phone so badly, but in the end the camera just couldn't hold a candle to even my note4. I don't know if it's qualcomm's snapcam (running lineage right now) that makes it so good, but at full crop there is very little loss of detail, noise, and almost zero denoising artifact. I would snap the same subject with the oneplus5 and have to zoom out pretty far just to make the horrible noise and artifact bearable. If you don't ever zoom or crop, then the camera's pretty good. But if you routinely zoom the cam, or crop in on the pics after the fact, then this camera will disappoint. painfully so. I like the oneplus5 so much, in fact, that I'll keep an eye on it to see if there are improvements and am open to buying it again down the line.

I'll be perfectly honest. I love this phone. It kicks the crap out of my S8+ in so many ways. So much so that I'm trying to get rid of the S8+. I've got no issue with it and the photos are brilliant for my needs. However this score doesn't seem to fit.
And I don't know why anyone wants it to. You can't have a flagship level phone in ALL areas AND have it priced decently. Some people expect and want way too much out of OnePlus. OnePlus is alarmingly trying to cater to that. Stick with the original mission. Give us spec beasts with no bloat and none of the gimmicks. No one else does that. Most of us would rather you give us a powerhouse that does the intended job versus a bogged down wallet killer that takes photos on par with thousand dollar phones that we come to OnePlus seeking to avoid.
The camera is good. Great even. But it's not the best or within shooting (hah) range of it. It is what it should be. People are fine with that. People get pissed when it's hyped into something it's not and that they didn't expect out of you to begin with. That's your problem OnePlus.
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After reading the review, I'm not so surprised by the score.
They basically said that if you bring your tripod with you, you will get very good shots even in low light conditions but if you expect to take handled shots, the OP5 will end with blurry shots.
But DxO mostly doesn't care about handled performance because shots can't be perfectly reproduce so the score is fair considering their standards.
The only point where I strongly disagree is about video stabilisation.

Where they saw "good" photo quality, if in low light conditions OP5 do photos which we can rate to 0 score!

razholio said:
I was very impressed with tne oneplus5 in just about every way (the screen was just ok), except the camera. I wanted to keep this phone so badly, but in the end the camera just couldn't hold a candle to even my note4. I don't know if it's qualcomm's snapcam (running lineage right now) that makes it so good, but at full crop there is very little loss of detail, noise, and almost zero denoising artifact. I would snap the same subject with the oneplus5 and have to zoom out pretty far just to make the horrible noise and artifact bearable. If you don't ever zoom or crop, then the camera's pretty good. But if you routinely zoom the cam, or crop in on the pics after the fact, then this camera will disappoint. painfully so. I like the oneplus5 so much, in fact, that I'll keep an eye on it to see if there are improvements and am open to buying it again down the line.
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I'm with you. I snatched a 128GB Pixel for $510 on Swappa, so I'm sending the OP5 back this weekend. But I would buy down the road if it get dramatically better through updates, or the 5T brings OIS and better post-processing.

So, the OP5 camera (87) is better than the iPhone 7 (86) and almost as good as the Galaxy S8 (88)?
What.

I can't belive it because g4 has superior quality in crops:
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}

OP just upped the camera game. Now samsung, htc and google have to catch up

https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...plus-5-camera-improvement-partnership-dxomark