[Q] Possible battery destruction? - LG G Flex

Hello my dear XDA people. I finaly bought a few weeks back the LG G Flex and i am just amazed by it, i wanted i big phone so i can do my jobs on it and with a good battery life that other phones (especialy the Iphones) did not provided. I liked the battery life on it but found an app on play store called DU Battery Saver. I installed that app and found an option when you charge your phone called Trickle Charge, of course i didn't read what i does but after i had read the "Q&A" i still don't understand it. But after i have charged my phone with that option i am using for 3 days (light>medium use of the phone) and still have 50% of my battery? Did i just messed up my battery? I mean..is it a chance that i overcharged my battery and at the next charge will it just die after a few hours?
PS: I also use tasker and kill the blutooth,wifi,data and rotation at night..but i don't think that saves up so much battery.
I know it might sound like a ridiculous question but i am a bit worried now after using this app,maybe other people arround here used it and can explain what that Trickle Charge actualy does.
Thank you.

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[Q] Battery stats

Hi there
Ive noticed my battery draining very fast after unplugging at 100% and have heard that my battery may need calibrating.
The person who sold me the phone on eBay was kind enough to give me a spare battery will inserting this spare battery reset the battery stats thus skipping the methods described in some threads.
Hope this makes sense
Cheers
Jordan
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I am not sure. To be honest, I use 2 batteries, one in the phone, the other one gets charged by an external Samsung charger. I exchange them every 24 hours or so. I used to do the calibration thing when I had only one battery, but obviously, not any more. I dont think this battery calibration thing is really relevant, cause when I was on JUWE ROM, the battery life was excellent( using 2 batteries). I recently moved to a different ROM and started to experience a drain. You know what, may be I should calibrate one of them. The point is ,,,when we calibrate..is it the battery itself, or the way the phone reads the battery. There is an extensive thread on battery drain indicating that the culprit is in the android processes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039696
Thanks for the reply will take a look
I think that I will need a battery calibration as it was 80% (on new battery) after being unplugged for 5 minutes
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One option if the phone was second hands is that the battery might be dead or dying, but as stated read the threads, try a clbr8 and good luck
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[Q] Best Way To Calibrate Battery

Hi people
Yeah yeah ... stop blaming me for asking such a noop Q
let's see
After Full charge and stamina mode on i only have 9 hours of stand buy estimation ...
i think i have calibratetd the phone badly..
So how can I fix this..?
It's Nearly 2 weeks that i've bought this phone...
TNX in advance
My phone is UnROOTED
faraz_fireboy said:
Hi people
Yeah yeah ... stop blaming me for asking such a noop Q
let's see
After Full charge and stamina mode on i only have 9 hours of stand buy estimation ...
i think i have calibratetd the phone badly..
So how can I fix this..?
It's Nearly 2 weeks that i've bought this phone...
TNX in advance
My phone is UnROOTED
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There is no BEST way to calibrate your battery. We all have our own theories.
The stamina mode thing is a semi bug, you shouldn't worry about it.
With semi bug I mean: The phone learns from your daily tasks and then adjusts the stamina mode time to it.
Mine also says 9 hours, with stamina mode 21 hours or so. But I'm not worried because I can get a lot more then that.
When you clear the cache (Dont remember from what service/app) the stamina mode time resets to "normal".
faraz_fireboy said:
Hi people
Yeah yeah ... stop blaming me for asking such a noop Q
let's see
After Full charge and stamina mode on i only have 9 hours of stand buy estimation ...
i think i have calibratetd the phone badly..
So how can I fix this..?
It's Nearly 2 weeks that i've bought this phone...
TNX in advance
My phone is UnROOTED
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Best way to calibrate your battery, is keep charging your phone when it needs to be charged, and make sure that you followed the charge instructions when you opened the box. Then after about 3 weeks the battery will be as good as it is going to get.
There's an extensive discussion regarding the necessity of calibration in the thread linked in my signature. If you read the first few pages you will realise it is not needed.
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Calibration is not require...if your phone die too quick get one of those portable battery charger, it look like a damn tampon, but it will do the job, 2000mah.
Actually
I recieved the phone as a gift and I think it was turned on and tested and they didn't charged it before first use...
Is this first charge thing that effective?
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faraz_fireboy said:
Actually
I recieved the phone as a gift and I think it was turned on and tested and they didn't charged it before first use...
Is this first charge thing that effective?
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No not really. It's a li-ion battery and they just don't need that type of treatment. Alot of people will harp and whine that it does but that's pretty much just people stuck in old ways (sony themselves have a note with it saying charge for 30 minutes before use) . The only thing that's "bad" for the battery is continually jump charging it eg plugging it in to charge at say 40%, only letting it reach 60%, unplug it, use it for a few hours and do the same thing. That and maintaining a full charge for a long period of time or maintaining a very low charge for a long period of time.
However I would charge my S2 every once during the day, then again at night and leave it on charge till the morning. Leaving plugged in for excess of 5 hours every night at full charge hasn't caused any noticeable harm. They have sensors to slow current flow to a trickle when they are at full charge to prevent over charging so I guess that does the trick to prevent it from reaching true 100% charge.
Rule of thumb; when the phone tells you to plug into charger, that;s right about the best time to do so. Later wont matter so much, but earlier and you are basically wasting a charge cycle and shortening it's life.
My S2 is still on it's original battery though and it is still going strong after approx 2 years.
The best way to calibrate would be to stop fiddling and let the phone do it's thing. Reboots and recovery mess with it alot as alot of battery percentage gets lost during both of those and throws it way out. A couple complete charge and discharge cycles without powering down should be all it needs

[Q] things to be done on battery after getting new htc one

I am new in HTC phones. I will get my htc one after 2 days, i mainly want to know about battery charging cycles. how can we do that to get maximum battery life. what is mean by battery calibration ? is the battery to be calibrated in every weak ? sorry for my bad english
Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone
Just use it. Charge it when you need to, charge it when you can, top up charge is fine. Calibration is a myth. You don't need to do anything or not do anything abnormal.
Letting it run out and leaving it empty is a bad idea. Charging it, turning it off, charging it, and whatever other voodoo is recommended is a bad idea.
Lol at two contradicting responses.
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Lol at two contradicting responses.
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Personally my thinks about battery is the same of users after my post.
But i wrote this because a lot of people say to do this...
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Guich said:
Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone
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is their any special charging methods to be done after getting my new One ??
One charge for a day is enough for htc one if you don't play games
If you really want the most optimum battery life out of your phone then don't let it drain below 30% nor let it reach more than 90%. You'll likely get the most charge cycles and prolonged battery life with that. This suggestion sounds sarcastic but this is scientifically factual.
Riyal said:
If you really want the most optimum battery life out of your phone then don't let it drain below 30% nor let it reach more than 90%. You'll likely get the most charge cycles and prolonged battery life with that. This suggestion sounds sarcastic but this is scientifically factual.
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How many HTC one batteries did you test? Using what methodology?
The only scientific fact is that you just made up those numbers, you have no idea what charge and discharge limits have already been placed on the raw cells by the battery circuitry.
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Guich said:
Personally my thinks about battery is the same of users after my post.
But i wrote this because a lot of people say to do this...
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Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.
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Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.
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I don't use this method.
But my friend have a very good battery life with it.
So, why don't share?
I don't use it because i can't do this, it's simple
HTC One Battery Conditioning
sarathsnair said:
is their any special charging methods to be done after getting my new One ??
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G'day mate. When I had my HTC Desire, there was a process of conditioning that was advisable which pushed my battery life from 3/4 of a day to a full day. Having just received my HTC One last Friday (and what a magnificent phone it is too but that is a story for another day), I can honestly say that no conditioning is required (after-all, it does have a 2300mAH battery). I would suggest that you make sure that the first time you charge the phone, you leave it on charge for a minimum of 8hrs (as recommended by HTC). I left it on charge all day and I believe it does make a difference. As for making it last long, may I suggest you invest in an App called Juice Defender Ultimate (not very expensive but extremely useful) ? I am using this app and I have improved the battery life of my One from a single day to approx. 2.5 days. But I am an average user (emails, some internet, some music and blinkfeed). I don't watch movies on my phone so I am not too sure how that will affect battery life but I believe it will have some effect.
I hope this helps you with the answers you seek.
It's based on scientific facts.
When your battery has high load(Almost fully charged) more ions inside the battery are stored there hence doing alot of chemical changes in the battery. And chemical change is the only reason why our batteries here are losing it's capacity.
And the reason why I set 30% as the minimum is because you don't want your battery to be drained too much as there's likely chances that you'll completely drain it causing it to be broken also.
And why limit the examples on HTC One batteries? Is this a serious question or just a joke? We all know that HTC One was just released months ago and another obvious fact is it has a non removable battery. So obviously the answer would be none.
And about real life proofs about my usage and how it affects battery life do you want me to show you a nokia 3310 model still up and running for almost a 8 years now? Also want me to show you my nokia n900 which is already about 4 years now and still kicking it's battery perfectly up to now? I could have also showed you my n95 up and running till now if only it didn't break it's flex cable.
There's no such thing as integrated ticking time bomb on your battery(like rumors in the 20th century where they say electronic ICs have a hard coded date where they will totally shut off) where it would just instantly die once it reach it's recharge limit. What manufacturer in their right mind would do that? Smartphone business isn't a monopoly and every competitor would want the best of them all on their products. Also if this myth would have been true most people's device wouldn't even last a year due to plugging your phone on a computer would initiate a charge also. So would that mean that if I plug my phone on my PC 5x a day and charge it once a day it would only last roughly 6months? lol!
Also here's a good website that would backup my claim.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Partial and random charge is fine; does not need full charge; lower voltage limit preferred; keep battery cool.
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Prevent full cycles, apply some charge after a full discharge to keep the protection circuit alive.
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Keep cool, battery lasts longest when operating in mid state-of-charge of 20–80%. Prevent ultra-fast charging and high loads.
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BenPope said:
How many HTC one batteries did you test? Using what methodology?
The only scientific fact is that you just made up those numbers, you have no idea what charge and discharge limits have already been placed on the raw cells by the battery circuitry.
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Quick lesson for life; feel free to engage your own brain. Stuff doesn't become true just because lots of people repeat it.
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Did you read those websites? Because their numbers and yours don't agree. So either you made up the numbers or you obtained your scientific facts from elsewhere.
As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.
I thinks the powersave is the best route when not playing any games. If you play games then you can call it quits!
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OzBoy08 said:
G'day mate. When I had my HTC Desire, there was a process of conditioning that was advisable which pushed my battery life from 3/4 of a day to a full day. Having just received my HTC One last Friday (and what a magnificent phone it is too but that is a story for another day), I can honestly say that no conditioning is required (after-all, it does have a 2300mAH battery). I would suggest that you make sure that the first time you charge the phone, you leave it on charge for a minimum of 8hrs (as recommended by HTC). I left it on charge all day and I believe it does make a difference. As for making it last long, may I suggest you invest in an App called Juice Defender Ultimate (not very expensive but extremely useful) ? I am using this app and I have improved the battery life of my One from a single day to approx. 2.5 days. But I am an average user (emails, some internet, some music and blinkfeed). I don't watch movies on my phone so I am not too sure how that will affect battery life but I believe it will have some effect.
I hope this helps you with the answers you seek.
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milkw33d said:
As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.
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thank u so much
milkw33d said:
As much as I know....just dont overcharge and frequent charging. Overcharge meaning leaving your phone charged for long hours after it has reached 100%. Frequent charging meaning leaving your home with 100%, reach office at 85% and charge. Going for lunch with 92% and came back with 87% and you charge again. Get the picture? I'm no genius on batteries and dont bother looking up and reading on them. Just based on experience, over many phones. And yes, the first charge is very important.
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Given that the phone comes with charge in it, how much can you do to affect the first charge?
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Given that the phone comes with charge in it, how much can you do to affect the first charge?
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As much as I know, dont drain the battery too much the first time you take it out the box. All batteries comes with a little charge in it. Had a friend who used to work at a mobile company and I cant remember the term he used to describe that. But the first charge doesnt have to be exactly 8hrs. Phone might be fully charged after 4-6hrs if you hadnt used it much from the box. Just dont unplug it before it reaches 100% on the first charge. Let it get to full and leave it for another 10-15mins and its good to go.
Guich said:
Once at month, you have to discarghe the phone at 0%, put it in charge and switch on it when the led is green.
The battery life, during the day, depens of you and your use of phone
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I let a cell phone battery get down to zero once. It never worked again.
I did the same with my house cleaning robot. I had to replace the battery after that.....I'm just saying.
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I let a cell phone battery get down to zero once. It never worked again.
I did the same with my house cleaning robot. I had to replace the battery after that.....I'm just saying.
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Some devices have this problem.
Mine not.
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Maximizing battery health over phone lifetime

I know how to manage my battery over the course of a couple days, but what about over the couple of years I'm going to own this phone? I can never seem to find any reliable information on this. Do I minimize the number of charge cycles by running the battery all the way down every time, or do I charge it more frequently to avoid stressing it by running it down so low? Should I leave my phone plugged in overnight or is that bad for it? Anyone have any tips to maximize the battery's lifetime, especially with the huge battery in the turbo?
Also interested in this, any help would be appreciated
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I did Google it. What I got out of it is : don't run the battery down to zero too often (once a month was suggested). One place said to charge it between about 40 and 80%. I don't think leaving it on overnight is bad. I "think" I read where it will eventually shut off.
Google lithium ion battery life, and you will find some good articles.
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Battery Maintenance

Hello guys. Now that the battery is not removable I would like to ask you guys how do you guys take care of battery so it has longest lifespan as possible? I know that keeping it away from heat is a good thing but how about charging? My self I am always wait untill the battery hits around 15% of juice. Do you guys let it go zero and a full charge?
Just want some tips
Oniska said:
Hello guys. Now that the battery is not removable I would like to ask you guys how do you guys take care of battery so it has longest lifespan as possible? I know that keeping it away from heat is a good thing but how about charging? My self I am always wait untill the battery hits around 15% of juice. Do you guys let it go zero and a full charge?
Just want some tips
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Li-ion battery has great life-span No need to worry about that. Just do full cycle charge at least once in a week to calibrate the battery
Once a week? Wooow. I'm 2 months behind
No matter what phone I always let it go to zero if I am in no hurry to recharge it . My five-year-old Droid X still boots and has decent battery life.
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I read somewhere that the cells gets damaged when dropping to zero always
You can google it yourself. I did once. Found a website, it was something like "Battery Charging 101." I read that site for about 3 hours and different topics on different batteries. Basically nobody knows the real answer, and everyone is making up stuff.
Oniska said:
I read somewhere that the cells gets damaged when dropping to zero always
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The batteries do get damaged when they really go to zero but when it says zero on your phone it's not really zero battery voltage. Just like 100% is not 100% all the time. it depends how the battery is currently calibrated.
You know everybody is not "making this stuff up" either... that's retarded . http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
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