The last I checked the poll of who got to order their Nexus 6, it was at 36 people. There's no way that Google only had less than 200 available. Is it possible that Google allowed the carriers first crack at the Nexus 6 stock and sold the remaining devices to the public?
This would explain the pitiful amount that was made available as well as the 3-4 week ship time when T-Mobile has already indicated they will have them in stores on the 12th.
Just a thought.
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The last I checked the poll of who got to order their Nexus 6, it was at 36 people. There's no way that Google only had less than 200 available. Is it possible that Google allowed the carriers first crack at the Nexus 6 stock and sold the remaining devices to the public?
This would explain the pitiful amount that was made available as well as the 3-4 week ship time when T-Mobile has already indicated they will have them in stores on the 12th.
Just a thought.
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T-Mobile has since changed it to "no release date"
ABOsborn20 said:
The last I checked the poll of who got to order their Nexus 6, it was at 36 people. There's no way that Google only had less than 200 available. Is it possible that Google allowed the carriers first crack at the Nexus 6 stock and sold the remaining devices to the public?
This would explain the pitiful amount that was made available as well as the 3-4 week ship time when T-Mobile has already indicated they will have them in stores on the 12th.
Just a thought.
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Why not?
Could be simple low yields due to Q/C, could be due to delayed container arrival from China...could also be the classic tactic every retailer in the USA pulls on Black Friday every single...having less than 12 of any listed item in store for purchase.
Could also be intentional.
Google killing their own sales figures by gifting stock at less than MSRP to carriers seems unlikely. Megacorps only see $$$ signs, that is where the most likely explanation lies.
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Google killing their own sales figures by gifting stock at less than MSRP to carriers seems unlikely. Megacorps only see $$$ signs, that is where the most likely explanation lies.
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You can't make money if you don't have product to sell so your explanation doesn't work either.
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My preferred explanation is stock price manipulation by leveraging PR from a quick sellout.
Companies make more money gambling with stocks and arcane financial instruments than off customers.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened though. They did confirm that they only had a "limited number" available for pre-order. And when you take the facts into account it makes sense.
1- First Nexus to be available on all major carriers
2- First (recent) Nexus to have a premium price tag
3- The only nexus to be the same price within the play store as outside the play store.
Maybe Google is going away from subsidizing it themselves and wanting you to get it subsidized through the carriers.
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I wouldn't be surprised if that's what happened though. They did confirm that they only had a "limited number" available for pre-order. And when you take the facts into account it makes sense.
1- First Nexus to be available on all major carriers
2- First (recent) Nexus to have a premium price tag
3- The only nexus to be the same price within the play store as outside the play store.
Maybe Google is going away from subsidizing it themselves and wanting you to get it subsidized through the carriers.
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Google never subsidized. They cut corners. The N5 was a seriously trimmed LG G2, which easily explained the price difference between the two... just like how the Nexus 6 is basically a Note 4 in Moto clothing. Nexus 5 was a budget-friendly quite nice phone, while the Nexus 6 is a flagship phone at not QUITE a flagship price.
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the Nexus 6 is a flagship phone at not QUITE a flagship price.
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But for Google, they'll probably make the same or even more money per unit as say Samsung with the Note 4 since Google doesn't spend much money on R&D and almost nothing on marketing. The Nexus line has always been "marketed" by the users and designed off another flagship and the N6 is another testament.
I think google only made a few as everyone said "fk you google, its too big"
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I think google only made a few as everyone said "fk you google, its too big"
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Got to love all the whinning and complaining that its way to big. It's way to expensive. Same people are now pissed that they can't get their hands on it.
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T-Mobile has since changed it to "no release date"
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Link?
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Nickcu13 said:
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their newsroom doesnt say that
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/t...-to-its-data-strong-network-this-november.htm
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their newsroom doesnt say that
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/t...-to-its-data-strong-network-this-november.htm
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Umm, it does.
" The Nexus 6 by Motorola will join T-Mobile’s stellar device lineup on November 12..."
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Umm, it does.
" The Nexus 6 by Motorola will join T-Mobile’s stellar device lineup on November 12..."
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Lol huh? That's my point it says the 12th. Go back an read who I quoted.....
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Umm, it does.
" The Nexus 6 by Motorola will join T-Mobile’s stellar device lineup on November 12..."
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I called them and they said they don't have a release date yet.
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I called them and they said they don't have a release date yet.
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Des already said a date. Even the news room said the 12th.
Des would know before the regular reps.
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As of a few hours ago, I have yet to find a decent unboxing video. I've seen a couple that were like 2 minutes long and just showed the contents of the box and gave the phone specs. We already know what comes in the box and we've known the specs for the past 2 months. I'd like to see a 10 minute long video unboxing the phone, powering up, close ups to see how the phone looks in the real world etc. By the way, what's up with people advertising Nexus 6 unboxing videos when they are just photos of the phone? I'm just annoyed because I wasn't one of the lucky few that successfully pre-ordered a 32gb Midnight Blue Nexus 6. Damn it!
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As of a few hours ago, I have yet to find a decent unboxing video. I've seen a couple that were like 2 minutes long and just showed the contents of the box and gave the phone specs. We already know what comes in the box and we've known the specs for the past 2 months. I'd like to see a 10 minute long video unboxing the phone, powering up, close ups to see how the phone looks in the real world etc. By the way, what's up with people advertising Nexus 6 unboxing videos when they are just photos of the phone? I'm just annoyed because I wasn't one of the lucky few that successfully pre-ordered a 32gb Midnight Blue Nexus 6. Damn it!
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Nexus 6 Unboxing: http://youtu.be/L3_emQHLByo
Google's strategy should have been to get them first to there core group XDA and then the corporate bs carriers!
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Lol huh? That's my point it says the 12th. Go back an read who I quoted.....
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Oh man! I was blind. Totally missed the quoted part and non-quoted part.
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So who has theories on why this release has been limited to such a few sporadic outlets? I mean the Play Store I get since that is Google but why no other major electronics retailers? I would expect at least Best Buy and Fry's to be selling from the brick&mortar front and Buy.com, New Egg and Amazon from the online. Instead we have a few obscure online shops like B&H and some office supply stores? Game Stop seems to be the only one that kind of fits but even that isn't the first place I would think of when looking for new tablet.
Just a thought as we wait...
It's become fairly obvious to me that Google doesn't know what in the world it's doing.
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It's become fairly obvious to me that Google doesn't know what in the world it's doing.
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Send it out to all retailers, but have retailers hold stock until launch day. Ship preorders 2 days before launch. Done.
Now the only thing that can unravel this is if some retailers don't hold their stock. That's what seems to be happening, not entirely Google's fault.
Google has no control whatsoever over the distribution since the Nexus 7 wasn't manufactured in-house (read: inside the Google premises) nor distributed by them. ASUS is the manufacturer and all Nexus 7 retail units were distributed through their own supply chain.
The Nexus Q, yes... It's a different story.
This is yet another instance where Apple make Google look like a bunch of rank amateurs. Honestly. I pre-ordered mine on June 29th from the Play Store, assuming that might amount to something!
Here's how google could have done this properly:
Announce that the launch date is a specific date. Let's say July 20th, not 2-3 weeks. Vagueness makes people speculate.
Next, Ship it out to UPS distribution centers and retailers and tell retailers to hold until the 20th. Part of the reason retailers are not following instructions is that anxious people keep bugging them and it's wasting warehouse space for an effectively undetermined amount of time, something that retailers also hate. On July 19th, give the go-ahead to UPS and retailers release on the 20th. Everybody is happy, because everything that was promised was delivered.
This shouldn't have been complicated at all. Pre-ordering with UPS and retailers isn't exactly new.
This should be in Q&A.. might get closed =P
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ACCUSED24 said:
This should be in Q&A.. might get closed =P
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Why even make such a reply? If you have an issue, use the report button.
I do disagree with your point. His question was asked in an open discussion format. Q&A in many device forums on XDA is more meant for support based questions.
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This should be in Q&A.. might get closed =P
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This is not a question I need answered but a topic to provoke discussion on Google/Asus launch strategy. Thanks for your insightful post though
I don't know what's going in but I am a little annoyed that people who purchased from Gamestop and ebuyer are getting theirs and my play store pre order is still saying 1-2 weeks
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Here's how google could have done this properly:
Announce that the launch date is a specific date. Let's say July 20th, not 2-3 weeks. Vagueness makes people speculate.
Next, Ship it out to UPS distribution centers and retailers and tell retailers to hold until the 20th. Part of the reason retailers are not following instructions is that anxious people keep bugging them and it's wasting warehouse space for an effectively undetermined amount of time, something that retailers also hate. On July 19th, give the go-ahead to UPS and retailers release on the 20th. Everybody is happy, because everything that was promised was delivered.
This shouldn't have been complicated at all. Pre-ordering with UPS and retailers isn't exactly new.
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I total agree that this would have made the launch smoother and easier for consumers. However, Google has many highly paid marketing and logistic professionals at their disposal. Is it just that they keep dropping the ball on Nexus launches or is this by design to artificially generate additional hype and anticipation? I'm wondering if it's some type of marketing strategy itself.
..still can't it out..
It creates buzz..
Since apparently no one can read or use the search function.
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Google has no control whatsoever over the distribution since the Nexus 7 wasn't manufactured in-house (read: inside the Google premises) nor distributed by them. ASUS is the manufacturer and all Nexus 7 retail units were distributed through their own supply chain.
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TLDR; Blame ASUS.
Maybe it just took them longer to link the devices to peoples accounts since other than storage size that is the only difference between buying it in retail and getting it from Google Play.
And I'm sure a big list of people cancelling their orders later to get over the limits of Google's horrible store didn't help because they would then have to undo the linking on those devices.
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I don't know what's going in but I am a little annoyed that people who purchased from Gamestop and ebuyer are getting theirs and my play store pre order is still saying 1-2 weeks
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Yeah, quite frankly, I'm also annoyed. In fact, more than a little annoyed. Unless the Play store gives us some sort of reparation for getting screwed over like this, I'm never pre-ordering or buying from Play ever again. I think a free case is fair compensation for all of us who preordered from Play and got screwed over.
In fact, anyone have a link handy for Play's customer support/service email so I can write them a strongly worded letter? Their "Contact Us" page only has their phone number.
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Since apparently no one can read or use the search function.
TLDR; Blame ASUS.
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that's not a suffecient reason, all google had to do was have a street date implemented.
google is repeatedly terrible at hardware launches. how a multibillion dollar company is so bad at something when it's not their first time doing it is beyond me.
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Since apparently no one can read or use the search function.
TLDR; Blame ASUS.
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So what is your source that states that Google has no say what so ever in the marketing and release of the flagship product that bears there name? Please don't confuse giving your post no credibility with not being able to read.
Maybe you'd prefer the Apple model... people standing in line for a day or 2, running out on release day and no one able to activate their devices? This is Google's first outing for a branded tablet... give 'em a break. Trust me, it'll be worth the wait.
I preordered mine from GameStop and was told July 31 as the release date...extremely surprised to get it last Friday!
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This is normal for Asus.
Heck, the Prime has been out for over 6 months, still cant find one in a retail outlet.
Hopefully it's not as bad and they start getting them out.. Wouldn't hold my breath though.
People will probably have to check nowinstock.net for months to track one down.
Simple question: Should Google re-implement the pre-order system?
Hopefully some "people of power" within Google will look at the stats generated from this Poll, and adjust their game plan accordingly.
I personally think the pre-order system is the only way to conduct sales on a Lunch date of a high-demand new product for a several reasons, some of them being:
a) Allows both the Manufacturer and/or Google to accurately gauge the market demand prior to launch, and thus create/plan stock accordingly.
b) Allows accurate shipping times to be predicted based on the volume of orders, rather than playing a "guessing game".
c) Allows a specific amount of Launch Date devices to be in stock to at least meet the demand of some of the "on the day purchases", while still achieving the "sold out effect" marketing scheme, if they want.
d) Consumers are more comfortable being informed with expected wait times for orders; comfortable with the fact that the device is already on pre-order (now it's in the hands of Google to roll out the devices). AND consumers don't have to keep checking a website in order to find out if it's available again or not.
The bottom line is: The pre-order system is a more professional and organized approach to selling a high demand item, from only one online source.
Furthermore, I think that Google Play should start taking orders now for the re-stock of Nexus devices, so that even if it has to put on back-order, at least the consumer knows they're in-line/queue for the device, when it becomes available, no more frequent and unnecessary effort in consistently checking back.
I would prefer it would over refreshing lots
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google could care less about the stats from an xda post... we comprise of probably less than 0.01% of the buying market for the n4
I think they should!. Thing is.... Pre ordering gives us as the consumer the option to give interest and thus giving Google the information needed to generate a general clue as of demand. At the moment, the only demand they can calculate is site activities.
As its been mentioned all over this forum, both here in the UK & Internationally. Google, has really shown themselves to be very amateurish on how they have conducted there orders and allowing the customer to show interest in purchasing there products.
Poorly managed I hear you ask?!... Its been a complete embarrassment for such a big company!.
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Lock up peoples money before every delivering a phone? Of course they should. It's a good business model
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Lock up peoples money before every delivering a phone? Of course they should. It's a good business model
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Well if you want the device, you want the device. You're going to pay either now or later, doesn't make a different.
Better to be informed and secure that your device is on order and not "up in the air".
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google could care less about the stats from an xda post... we comprise of probably less than 0.01% of the buying market for the n4
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dont know about that. they dont even advertise. most people i know dont even know google makes devices. for that matter android lmao. i bet most of the buyers were from xda such as myself
Except that it is not legal to sell something a product that you do not have in hand.
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Oh ya xda website during launch was almost crashing and not Google huh?..... didn't know xda had better servers.
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Lock up peoples money before every delivering a phone? Of course they should. It's a good business model
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For something like nexus 4 I would definitely put down my money even it was 6 months before shipping.
It should make a eu play store devices... thre are no custom between states in europe, why is only in 5 countries ._.
There was problems when they did preordering before however there was only really 2 problems they needed to fix rather than abandoning preorders completely.
First the problem with the nexus 7 was that as orders came in it didn't change the estimated delivery timescale. If the site updates the estimate even if it gets to be weeks at least you know what to be expect. How hard is it to say we have x thousand for release, y thousand a week later and update the estimate accordingly as ordered are placed.
Secondly the other problem was they ended up sending out newly placed orders immediately while seeming to forget about those that preordered. This is something that should have been fixed quite easily by simply fulfilling orders in the correct order.
I agree that if they did preordering properly it would be better than the current system.
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There was problems when they did preordering before however there was only really 2 problems they needed to fix rather than abandoning preorders completely.
First the problem with the nexus 7 was that as orders came in it didn't change the estimated delivery timescale. If the site updates the estimate even if it gets to be weeks at least you know what to be expect. How hard is it to say we have x thousand for release, y thousand a week later and update the estimate accordingly as ordered are placed.
Secondly the other problem was they ended up sending out newly placed orders immediately while seeming to forget about those that preordered. This is something that should have been fixed quite easily by simply fulfilling orders in the correct order.
I agree that if they did preordering properly it would be better than the current system.
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I love how your solution solving procedure is the solution itself... lol
How did you come up with 4? 4.
Over 90% so far agree that they should re-implement pre-ordering. Good stats so far
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Except that it is not legal to sell something a product that you do not have in hand.
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Haha says who?
Honestly, I would vote that Google leave the ordering/shipping business all together. They can still make great devices, but launch after launch, Google has proved that they just can't get a clue. If Amazon.com can give me free two day shipping on a 15 pound medicine ball and charge me $30, I think that Google should be able to successfully launch 5, yes 5 new products at the same time. And remember, this is not the first F'd up launch. Pre-orders for the N7 didn't go so well either.
Personally, I will stay with the Nexus line far into the future, however, no longer will I be purchasing from Google directly.
And PS, their ordering web site look like it is from 10 years ago, doesn't provide barely any useful information, and sometimes doesn't even get updated until after the even has happened (IE, someone receives and order even though their order says "Pending"). This is from the same company that created an app that can zoom all over the world and show us down to 100 feet what a street in, say, China, looks like.
Nah screw that. I like instant gratification, and want my stuff as soon as its announces.
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Haha says who?
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Someone who knows more than you apparently.
BakaPhoenix said:
It should make a eu play store devices... thre are no custom between states in europe, why is only in 5 countries ._.
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I think google likes EU custumores buy million of Apple devices. And Apple thanks.
Google = :angel:
Google royally screwed up the launch, everyone can agree with that. Google should implement a preorder system and like you said allowed people to secure their place in line.
Even Apple allows people to do that via carriers (Rogers in Canada allowed people to pre-order). Looks like there's a lot Google needs to learn before they get this right as their Nexus 7 launch wasn't that good in the first place.
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Google royally screwed up the launch, everyone can agree with that. Google should implement a preorder system and like you said allowed people to secure their place in line.
Even Apple allows people to do that via carriers (Rogers in Canada allowed people to pre-order). Looks like there's a lot Google needs to learn before they get this right as their Nexus 7 launch wasn't that good in the first place.
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Agreed.
Dear all
I know that what you are going through is unacceptable and we are all working through the nights and weekends to resolve this issue. Supplies from the manufacturer are scarce and erratic, and our communication has been flawed. I can offer an unreserved apology for our service and communication failures in this process.
For those that originally received a 3-5 days shipping estimate, your orders are now in process for fulfillment. You can expect an email notification early this week which will include tracking information. Although you will be initially charged in full, you will receive a credit for the shipping charge soon after.
For others that received pre-Christmas shipping estimates, we anticipate processing your orders for fulfillment this week.
I realise that the people who ordered the Nexus 4 so early are among our most committed and loyal users and we are doing all we can to put things right.
Sorry again.
Dan
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Head of Google UK (Dan Cobley) finally offers some insight and an apology on this mess of a launch.
I apologize if this has already been posted, I couldn't find anything.
Full Article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/dec/17/nexus-4-delays-apology-blame
erosgulo said:
Head of Google UK (Dan Cobley) finally offers some insight and an apology on this mess of a launch.
I apologize if this has already been posted, I couldn't find anything.
Full Article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/dec/17/nexus-4-delays-apology-blame
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What mess? I, like the majority of people were quoted ships in 1-2 weeks, and it was delivered to be within the 2 weeks.
Some people are just a bunch of whining drama queens.
If you want to look at a product launch that REALLY failed, you only have to look at the Xbox360, 60% failure rate after 3 years on the market..... Thats a REAL botched product launch...
www.nofussreviews.com/survey-results-2012
And the background behind the problems...
http://venturebeat.com/2008/09/05/x...istory-of-microsofts-video-game-console-woes/
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What mess? I, like the majority of people were quoted ships in 1-2 weeks, and it was delivered to be within the 2 weeks.
Some people are just a bunch of whining drama queens.
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granted, some people are drama queens, but there are many people who still haven't received their order from Nov 13, and don't forget all the backordered folks from the initial release. Still there's some 1-2 weekers who have not received shipping emails. There's also the issue of ppl not receiving their devices in proportion to their order time. Furthermore, he's also apologizing about their lack of communication, which was another issue.
Also, providing an example of a greater failure doesn't justify this one haha.
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What mess? I, like the majority of people were quoted ships in 1-2 weeks, and it was delivered to be within the 2 weeks.
Some people are just a bunch of whining drama queens.
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Google originally quoted 3-5 day shipping to those of us who ordered on Nov 13. Then we got a backorder email the next day that changed the estimate to 3 weeks. I got my phone yesterday. That's right, a day shy of 5 weeks. Some Nov 13 orders have yet to be filled. They have NOT been filling the orders in the order that they were made, nor have they kept up with demand. This has been a shameful fiasco. Why do you think the shippong and orders thread has almost 40,000 posts?
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WHAT???!!! AN APOLOGY FOR LATE SHIPPING???!!! WHO CARES! FK HIM AND HIS APOLOGY!!!!
Where's an apology for USB/OTG and all the hardware issues??? Who needs an apology, recall this phone and start over again. They need to be hit where it hurts, in the wallet. Apologies don't hurt them financially. Fk that.
A lot of people got backordered, and even at this moment, the phone is completely sold out. There aren't really people being drama queens factoring in that the Google website is pretty much the only place to get the phone (unless you want to pay 200 dollars more), and when other products are sold out, there are lots of other places that might be supplied. LG came in with a really small supply of Nexus 4's, and it's hurt us in the end. Then again, I think the problem is also that, even now, I don't think they're that incredibly concerned since they're not looking to profit off the phone majorly as they are just trying to introduce the phone into the market as a stepping stone for other companies. If they don't sell some large number like 2 million phones, they are more than happy and I don't think that's what their intentions were in the first place. Unfortunately, this ends up hurting a lot of people who actually want the phone, or who have it and want accessories and such.
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A lot of people got backordered, and even at this moment, the phone is completely sold out. There aren't really people being drama queens factoring in that the Google website is pretty much the only place to get the phone (unless you want to pay 200 dollars more), and when other products are sold out, there are lots of other places that might be supplied. LG came in with a really small supply of Nexus 4's, and it's hurt us in the end. Then again, I think the problem is also that, even now, I don't think they're that incredibly concerned since they're not looking to profit off the phone majorly as they are just trying to introduce the phone into the market as a stepping stone for other companies. If they don't sell some large number like 2 million phones, they are more than happy and I don't think that's what their intentions were in the first place. Unfortunately, this ends up hurting a lot of people who actually want the phone, or who have it and want accessories and such.
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I wonder if/when google will bring the nexus line to motorola if we'll see an actual big player rise in the smartphone world. I imagine if google put in an actual real solitary effort into the nexus line (instead of these half assed cooperative efforts) and advertised its product well, we would see a legitimate competitor in the smartphone market. There is some money to be made with the rise of android in the past year. I hope google will consider augmenting its objectives for the nexus line in the near future.
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What mess? I, like the majority of people were quoted ships in 1-2 weeks, and it was delivered to be within the 2 weeks.
Some people are just a bunch of whining drama queens.
If you want to look at a product launch that REALLY failed, you only have to look at the Xbox360, 60% failure rate after 3 years on the market..... Thats a REAL botched product launch...
www.nofussreviews.com/survey-results-2012
And the background behind the problems...
http://venturebeat.com/2008/09/05/x...istory-of-microsofts-video-game-console-woes/
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What mess? Lol too funny
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Google originally quoted 3-5 day shipping to those of us who ordered on Nov 13. Then we got a backorder email the next day that changed the estimate to 3 weeks. I got my phone yesterday. That's right, a day shy of 5 weeks. Some Nov 13 orders have yet to be filled. They have NOT been filling the orders in the order that they were made, nor have they kept up with demand. This has been a shameful fiasco. Why do you think the shippong and orders thread has almost 40,000 posts?
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Because people like posting =)
Not to mention people ordering later than others but still get their phones shipped sooner...
The only mistake Google made with this phone was selling it so cheap so millions of people wanted to buy it instead of getting it.on contract like normal phone.
The only mistake???
Pfft.
Old news ...we have enough news Google screwed up in every aspect of selling the N4, from the launch time announcement to the ordering to the shipping to the communication to the rma's.
you name and it they screwed up big time everywhere they were involved in.
I find it hard to believe how cynical everyone is. I had a few issues as well with Google, but I called and talked through it all. I know some of the customer service representatives are a little clueless, but those who have't got their device yet, probably could have done something about it. Also, Google is new to this game, you can't expect everything to be perfect their first try.
And yes I know they've sold devices before, I have purchased almost all of them, but I don't believe they have ever had such a high demand.
Just relax and enjoy the holidays.
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Old news ...we have enough news Google screwed up in every aspect of selling the N4, from the launch time announcement to the ordering to the shipping to the communication to the rma's.
you name and it they screwed up big time everywhere they were involved in.
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Ermmm... what's with that announcement? Did not correctly estimate sandy schedule?
biffsmash said:
The only mistake Google made with this phone was selling it so cheap so millions of people wanted to buy it instead of getting it.on contract like normal phone.
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Yes, because it would have been sooo much better if they sold it for £500+, just like the iPaidTooMuchForThisPhone.
When you stay awake to be first to order a phone that takes 2 weeks more than it should and there is still no bumper for sale, that is failure. If i wanted to pre order i would have in September.
I do not see LG getting another Nexus after this.
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When you stay awake to be first to order a phone that takes 2 weeks more than it should and there is still no bumper for sale, that is failure. If i wanted to pre order i would have in September.
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The preorders would run out as fast as orders, so you still won't be happy. Preorders don't magically speed up production.
No company on this earth has an infinite supply chain flexibility. Or they are grossly mismanaged. I don't see how it is a failure.
I do not see LG getting another Nexus after this.
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Dunno, I suppose LG probably won't even bid for another nexus. And the next OEM will be Compal, ZTE, Huawei or something.
Or even Motorola, like "dear OEMs, if you don't elect supplying us with a new platform, Motorola will. This is not a threat, we repeat, this is not a threat!"
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Yes, because it would have been sooo much better if they sold it for £500+, just like the iPaidTooMuchForThisPhone.
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There woudn't be any supply problems, sleepless nights and anxiety So el goog wouldn't fail and everyone would be happy
I'm not complaining because all the bugs in the initial release could be potentially sorted out when Google makes new devices. Just waiting past what your promised is not enjoyable especially when you get a definite ETA.
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I'm not complaining because all the bugs in the initial release could be potentially sorted out when Google makes new devices. Just waiting past what your promised is not enjoyable especially when you get a definite ETA.
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What bugs are these that require new devices?
Ugh I am tired of lg or Google not restocking the devices. I got nexus 7 again wish we had nexus 4 in stock...I have money but when are they ever going to bring out. I need unlock phone , Verizon is charging me arm and leg.. I don't want to overpaid amazon offering prices.
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Ugh I am tired of lg or Google not restocking the devices. I got nexus 7 again wish we had nexus 4 in stock...I have money but when are they ever going to bring out. I need unlock phone , Verizon is charging me arm and leg.. I don't want to overpaid amazon offering prices.
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Because Google predicted X devices will be sold and ordered them from LG. However X+c devices were ordered due to high demand.
Once deficit of c number of devices is fulfilled and LG ramps up its production in Feb we'll see Play Store taking orders again.
It's worth the wait. You won't find an unlocked device with this kind of hardware so cheap anywhere else.
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I really hope it's soon, I've had the money for it burning a hole in my account just waiting for the in stock notice..... I want this phone so bad.
I heard mid February but will they actually have it in stock for new orders in mid February or will they just be finishing all the existing orders?
I'm going crazy seeing all the support for this phone and then going back to the forum for my phone and seeing how scarce updates are
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An Executive from LG stated in an article, that has been talked about again and again in this and many other forums, that google didn't anticipate just how high the demand for this phone was going to be. LG has ramped up production and is hopefully going to be able to meet the demand by i think it was the middle of February at the latest.
I'm sure you've see and or read the article im referring to. If not, you might want to take a look at it. Here's one version of the article, there are many out there.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/1/21/3899550/lg-france-says-nexus-4-production-ramping-up
In the article, the Exec from LG states that demand will be met by February so im sur that means all existing orders will be filled as well as all new ones that are about to come in.
and to think ive had my nexus 4 sitting in its box while I use another phone. sorry dude, google will start allowing purchases in due time.
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Because Google predicted X devices will be sold and ordered them from LG. However X+c devices were ordered due to high demand.
Once deficit of c number of devices is fulfilled and LG ramps up its production in Feb we'll see Play Store taking orders again.
It's worth the wait. You won't find an unlocked device with this kind of hardware so cheap anywhere else.
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Technically they have ramped up --- they're making more than 4x the number of devices per month compared to what they were in November. That's a seriously impressive ramp up, and I'll be surprised if they can pull much higher than that.
Please use the existing shipping threads as we don't need more threads complaining about the same thing.
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I've searched but I didn't found any thread for the portuguese market.
So, I think that we needed this place to talk about the long waited Nexus 5.
Last year was very to us to get the Nexus 4 (at least at a fair price). Due to the stock crash only in January or February it was available at the main stores like Fnac or MediaMarkt but priced over 550€.
I hope that this year we could have it a lot earlier. Last year Google released some of his services in our country, like books or music. I hope (ok, I haven't that much hope...) they carry on launching their services so that we could have Play Devices but it is unlikely.
Lets see what comes and which retailers would sold it. And we'll alwways have services like forward2me and, my favorite, friends all over Europe :laugh:
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I've searched but I didn't found any thread for the portuguese market.
So, I think that we needed this place to talk about the long waited Nexus 5.
Last year was very to us to get the Nexus 4 (at least at a fair price). Due to the stock crash only in January or February it was available at the main stores like Fnac or MediaMarkt but priced over 550€.
I hope that this year we could have it a lot earlier. Last year Google released some of his services in our country, like books or music. I hope (ok, I haven't that much hope...) they carry on launching their services so that we could have Play Devices but it is unlikely.
Lets see what comes and which retailers would sold it. And we'll alwways have services like forward2me and, my favorite, friends all over Europe :laugh:
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I approve of this post. I've also looked around the Nexus 5 forum and only found a way that involves using Tor and setting up a fake Google account, then buying from the UK, sending to a UK address and having the phone re-shipped to Portugal. This is way too much of a hassle for me and I can't say I fully trust it to work or be particularly cheap.
If anyone knows of a reputable online retailer that stocks the Nexus 5 and ships to Portugal, can you give us a heads up please? Or if you come up with an easier way of getting this candy into our hands?
Handtec has it on pre-sale with delivery expected arround November 11th. It's a litle pricey, it'sm about 359£ to the 16GB and about 401£ to the 32GB version. I'm not sure if we must add shipment dosts to Portugal but if so I don't that is over 10€.
I've read on another forum that forward2me has a special to this device that theeirselves bought the device and just ship it to you but needs to check this.
Thanks, ToneJeco. I'll check out those options. It's a bit of a markup compared to the £299 on Google Play or £295 at Carphone Warehouse, but who knows?
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Personally, I'm going to try one of the The Phone House stores (The Phone House = Carphone Warehouse in Portugal, and other countries) and see if they could get a Nexus 5 in. Somehow.
I might do that as well. Did it in Media Markt already (they'll warn me if and when they get the Nexus 5), as they previously had the Nexus 4 for some time.
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Fnac.pt will unveil the nexus 5 next week, so next week we'll know if it's an official LG launch or not.
If it is the phone will be available in practically every major chain.
For those thinking about buying via playstore and forward2me it's much cheaper to buy from carphone warehouse (less hassle with mbnet declines, free postage to forward2me and no need for personal shopping)
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i think ill have to do it like a i did with my nexus 4.
find a friend in uk and ask them to buy it and send it to me... its cheaper...
but first i need to sell my n4, money isnt that much in my pocket...
but good idea to start a thread for our contry...
Managed to grab two 16GB Nexus 5 (BLK) directly from the German Play Store, through a work colleague based in Germany and should have 'em with me sometime during next week. :victory: :fingers-crossed:
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Fnac.pt will unveil the nexus 5 next week, so next week we'll know if it's an official LG launch or not.
If it is the phone will be available in practically every major chain.
For those thinking about buying via playstore and forward2me it's much cheaper to buy from carphone warehouse (less hassle with mbnet declines, free postage to forward2me and no need for personal shopping)
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Really ?! Because I've called FNAC today after reading your post and they had no idea what the heck I was talking about. And based in a past experience, ordering from Carphone Warehouse (even to a UK forwarding address) was actually a PITA.
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Managed to grab two 16GB Nexus 5 (BLK) directly from the German Play Store, through a work colleague based in Germany and should have 'em with me sometime during next week. :victory: :fingers-crossed:
Really ?! Because I've called FNAC today after reading your post and they had no idea what the heck I was talking about. And based in a past experience, ordering from Carphone Warehouse (even to a UK forwarding address) was actually a PITA.
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You called a store correct? See Fnac.pt 's facebook
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You called a store correct? See Fnac.pt 's facebook
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I've called several FNAC stores and checked their website. Also, I couldn't find any official statement about the Nexus 5 availability at their facebook page.
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I've called several FNAC stores and checked their website. Also, I couldn't find any official statement about the Nexus 5 availability at their facebook page.
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check "posts by others"
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Found it, thanks!
The answer given by FNAC's representative wasn't, well... Too convincing. But yeah... Let's see what happens next week and, above all, how much they will ask for it.
I've ordered a black 32Gb one from the UK play store... Well, not me, but a friend of mine who's working in London.. He will then send it to me through Royal mail. I hope to have it by the 11th or 12th of November..!
Cant wait!
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Fnac.pt will unveil the nexus 5 next week, so next week we'll know if it's an official LG launch or not.
If it is the phone will be available in practically every major chain.
For those thinking about buying via playstore and forward2me it's much cheaper to buy from carphone warehouse (less hassle with mbnet declines, free postage to forward2me and no need for personal shopping)
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I'm a litle afraid of Fanc's prices since last year they sold Nexus 4 @ 600€ but things may be diferent if LG make it official. I hope so since they seem to be trying hard to push their image and get their space in the smartphone's market with G2. A Nexus device is always a good way to increase that recognition.
I almost bought N5 this weekend but I believe is better to chill a bit and wait, I really have no hurge so I'll wait to see how the things evolve and how will be the availability here in Portugal. But that price from carphone is very tempting
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I'm a litle afraid of Fanc's prices since last year they sold Nexus 4 @ 600€ but things may be diferent if LG make it official. I hope so since they seem to be trying hard to push their image and get their space in the smartphone's market with G2. A Nexus device is always a good way to increase that recognition.
I almost bought N5 this weekend but I believe is better to chill a bit and wait, I really have no hurge so I'll wait to see how the things evolve and how will be the availability here in Portugal. But that price from carphone is very tempting
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Nope, you got the same problem. LG wanted to charge 600 for the N4. They'll probably do the same for the N5. So, even if it's an official release, we'll have it for 600€ over at FNAC.
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I'm a litle afraid of Fanc's prices since last year they sold Nexus 4 @ 600€ but things may be diferent if LG make it official. I hope so since they seem to be trying hard to push their image and get their space in the smartphone's market with G2. A Nexus device is always a good way to increase that recognition.
I almost bought N5 this weekend but I believe is better to chill a bit and wait, I really have no hurge so I'll wait to see how the things evolve and how will be the availability here in Portugal. But that price from carphone is very tempting
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Problem is, it isn't that easy to get CPW to send you anything to Portugal, even through a UK forwarding address. Firstly, because you need a credit or debit card associated to an UK billing address (I don't think you can do that with MBNet) and secondly, you need a real UK mobile phone number, something that services like Forward2me do not provide.
And I highly doubt FNAC Portugal will have the Nexus 5 in the coming week as a representative stated at FNAC's facebook page. Right now, the availability of the Nexus 5 in B&M stores isn't a reality with CPW being one of the very few exceptions so it's highly unlikely they'll have it in stock this week. But let's see what happens.
Lg has several country wide launches scheduled for this week, so I don't thing that's so unlikely
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Lg has several country wide launches scheduled for this week, so I don't thing that's so unlikely
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Source ?
Hi everyone.
If I buy a Nexus 5 in the UK to use in Portugal (I have a friend in London that can buy it) will all radios work correctly in Portugal? I know GSM is the same in all Europe but what about 3G LTE. Can anyone confirm or tell me how I can check it?