I'm really sorry if these questions have been posted before but I couldn't find them anywhere. I am rooted on an Xperia Z1 C6902 with a locked bootloader. I have read that unlocking bootloader wipes your phone as well as sd card. So, here are my questions:-
1)I made a TA backup as suggested but I want to know what it will do when I restore it, will it be like a factory reset or will I retain my apps, or something else?
2)I backed up my apps using free version of titanium backup and I've read that it stores the backup on sd card. So after unlocking bootloader, won't these backups be deleted as well?
3)Is there a way to transfer said titanium backup backups to my computer for easy restoration later?
4)I've also read that restoring titanium backup while on a different rom will cause problems. Does this mean I have to start over if I get an AOSP ROM or Cyanogenmod(I really want one of these)?
5)Can I just take the sd card out of the phone while unlocking bootloader so that it's not wiped? Then restore apps from titanium backup?
6)Will unlocking bootloader using flashtool install a custom recovery as well?
I understand these are noob questions but please help me out I'm really confused
Please answer with the corresponding question number please
Sorry for too many demands/questions
Thank you!
ggnoobteam said:
I'm really sorry if these questions have been posted before but I couldn't find them anywhere. I am rooted on an Xperia Z1 C6902 with a locked bootloader. I have read that unlocking bootloader wipes your phone as well as sd card. So, here are my questions:-
1)I made a TA backup as suggested but I want to know what it will do when I restore it, will it be like a factory reset or will I retain my apps, or something else?
2)I backed up my apps using free version of titanium backup and I've read that it stores the backup on sd card. So after unlocking bootloader, won't these backups be deleted as well?
3)Is there a way to transfer said titanium backup backups to my computer for easy restoration later?
4)I've also read that restoring titanium backup while on a different rom will cause problems. Does this mean I have to start over if I get an AOSP ROM or Cyanogenmod(I really want one of these)?
5)Can I just take the sd card out of the phone while unlocking bootloader so that it's not wiped? Then restore apps from titanium backup?
6)Will unlocking bootloader using flashtool install a custom recovery as well?
I understand these are noob questions but please help me out I'm really confused
Please answer with the corresponding question number please
Sorry for too many demands/questions
Thank you!
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Yep,BL unlocking does erase all your data!
1)when you restore the TA backup,your bootloader status goes back to locked,it will be like you never even touched the bootloader.But,the device wont boot up if you still have a custom kernel installed,so you have to flash back the stock kernel
2)I dont know about titanium backup
A better alternative is: Install XZDualRecovery(on locked bootloader) and make make a backup using your recovery of choice of /data(which contains all the apps/configurations/saved passwords blah...blah)onto the /sdcard.
Then unlock the bootloader and then restore the /data backup after.so everything including your apps and settings will be restored
5) as far as i know ,the sd card WON'T be wiped but you might as well take it out just to be safe
6)No,unlocking using flashtool will not install a recovery,the recovery is stored on the kernel(or not , if you flash a recovery image to the FOTAKernel Partition).
ggnoobteam said:
I'm really sorry if these questions have been posted before but I couldn't find them anywhere. I am rooted on an Xperia Z1 C6902 with a locked bootloader. I have read that unlocking bootloader wipes your phone as well as sd card. So, here are my questions:-
1)I made a TA backup as suggested but I want to know what it will do when I restore it, will it be like a factory reset or will I retain my apps, or something else?
2)I backed up my apps using free version of titanium backup and I've read that it stores the backup on sd card. So after unlocking bootloader, won't these backups be deleted as well?
3)Is there a way to transfer said titanium backup backups to my computer for easy restoration later?
4)I've also read that restoring titanium backup while on a different rom will cause problems. Does this mean I have to start over if I get an AOSP ROM or Cyanogenmod(I really want one of these)?
5)Can I just take the sd card out of the phone while unlocking bootloader so that it's not wiped? Then restore apps from titanium backup?
6)Will unlocking bootloader using flashtool install a custom recovery as well?
I understand these are noob questions but please help me out I'm really confused
Please answer with the corresponding question number please
Sorry for too many demands/questions
Thank you!
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1) the TA backup returns the DRM keys to your default ( what you backed up) which means makes your phone untouched like its first day ( only about bootloader status,kernel,some DRMs like xreality and ... )
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2)the titanium backup , saves the backups in the folder TitaniumBackup placed in sdcard(internal storage). you can copy the entire folder in your pc or external storage to save it from deleting and put it back whenever you need it
sdcard/TitaniumBackup
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3) as i said in 2 yes. you can save the folder everywhere you want and replace it whenever you need your backups( u can also save just one or some of your backups if you want by saving the files in the folder)
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4)it depends on the app you are about to restore.. most of third party apps will not have any problem.even from device to device.. but the story is totally different for system apps
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5)yes you can do that..
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6)as i know,no.. it depends on your custom kernel...just flash a custom kernel and you will have the recovery:laugh:
and my friend! unlocking the bootloader it self, will not erase any of your data !! none of those! its a procedure that makes your phone able to accept and operate from a custem kernel instead of pre-installed kernel.. but if you change your ROM or flash a new ftf file(official roms from sony) , your internal and your personal data such as appdata,contact & ... will be erased . and you can select whether wipe the internal or not!(thats depends on your choice) and your ex-sdcard will be safe unless you select to format it!
and be very careful and good luck
Haha well I decided to go ahead and do it anyway
I got the apps and data back so nothing bad happened. I want to know how I can get clockworkmod on my device.
Android ROM manager says no official version of clockworkmod is supported for xperia z1. But then in a menu it also lists TWRP and clockworkmod as already installed on the system and asks if ROM manager can use those for its purposes. So that's why I asked if flashtool installs custom recovery as well.
Whenever I try to boot into recovery to make a backup, it boots normally instead. I hold down the volume up/down buttons and press them quickly on boot, the phone vibrates multiple times but no recovery mode, which leads me to believe there is no custom recovery installed, but ROM manager refuses to download clockworkmod and says there are two installed already! Neither of which can be accessed(if they even are on the system).
Sorry for this convoluted message
Any more help is greatly appreciated
ggnoobteam said:
Haha well I decided to go ahead and do it anyway
I got the apps and data back so nothing bad happened. I want to know how I can get clockworkmod on my device.
Android ROM manager says no official version of clockworkmod is supported for xperia z1. But then in a menu it also lists TWRP and clockworkmod as already installed on the system and asks if ROM manager can use those for its purposes. So that's why I asked if flashtool installs custom recovery as well.
Whenever I try to boot into recovery to make a backup, it boots normally instead. I hold down the volume up/down buttons and press them quickly on boot, the phone vibrates multiple times but no recovery mode, which leads me to believe there is no custom recovery installed, but ROM manager refuses to download clockworkmod and says there are two installed already! Neither of which can be accessed(if they even are on the system).
Sorry for this convoluted message
Any more help is greatly appreciated
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To get a recovery on your phone,You have to A) Flash A Kernel using fastboot commands or B) Install XZDualRecovery
Since you have already unlocked your BL,flashing a new kernel would be the best option as it give you tons of new features like DoubleTap2Wake and Overclocking(or underclocking!!).Check out the android developement section for kernels and roms!
masterofnocrack said:
To get a recovery on your phone,You have to A) Flash A Kernel using fastboot commands or B) Install XZDualRecovery
Since you have already unlocked your BL,flashing a new kernel would be the best option as it give you tons of new features like DoubleTap2Wake and Overclocking(or underclocking!!).Check out the android developement section for kernels and roms!
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Could you please point out a thread to me that shows how to flash a custom kernel without a custom recovery in place?
Does this mean all xperia users have to install a custom recovery through commands?
ggnoobteam said:
Could you please point out a thread to me that shows how to flash a custom kernel without a custom recovery in place?
Does this mean all xperia users have to install a custom recovery through commands?
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All the kernels for the Stock Sony Roms for the z1 come with a recovery bundled in it(just basic cwm,not fun at all).I think some CM/AOSP based kernels lack recoveries(but i dont know for sure)!!
See,other phones have separate stock recoveries on dedicated partitions(only for software updates,no custom ****) and you can flash a custom recovery into that recovery partition and load it up.But sony....oh no...sony doesnt load a usable true-ish-recovery into its phones nor do xperias have a real partition for the recovery...so we have to get by with these tricks.....
Well the best you can do is you can install a custom kernel and then flash a recovery to the FOTAKernel partition.then the kernel will the load the recovery from the fotakernel instead.
Philz Touch CWM FOTAKERNEL for Z1 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...touch-fotakernel-images-t2826333/post54361630
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Hi there,
Not long ago i got a P970 and proceeded to root it and install CWM on my device using an all in one solution from this site, unfortunately it didn't seem to create a backup of the stock bootloader and i am unable to perform updates to the device as they all try to boot in to the stock bootloader to finish the update process which is ofc missing, does anyone have a copy of the stock bootloader for the P970, incase its of relevance i'm using one in the UK on the Orange network
I thank you in advance for any replies
Bump anyone got a copy of the bootloader?
If you flash stock vanilla rom it will overwrite CWM with stock.
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If you flash stock vanilla rom it will overwrite CWM with stock.
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Couple of small issues is that i dont want to lose everything i've installed and setup so far and the only images i can find of the stock ROM's are .kdz files which use the LG tools to flash and those require me to be able to boot to the standard software update tool found on the phone which doesn't seem to work with CWM installed as i can't do any OTA updates either.
dude, I already answered to you by pm. this cannot be saved, you have to flash again to recover the standard loader. AND, you don't have to boot or something else except going in s/w mode. just backup your apps / datas with 3nd party app then restore them after the flash. standard recovery is absolutely uneeded and is even useless. you might restore full datas with cwm by going into the advanced menu.
Spent quite some time searching through the forum but I'd still like a few pointers on where to start particularly (in which order).
Like;
1) Root
2) CWM
3) ROM Manager
4) SuperUser
5) Odin
6) Data wipe
7) Binary count reset
8) Recovery Manager
9) Custom ROMS
(EVEN THOUGH I'VE NUMBERED THEM, IT'S NOT LIKE I KNOW THE ORDER, JUST IN CASE YOU'RE WONDERING)
So here are my main questions:
1) In which order do I install them ?
2) Is there any relationship between them? (i.e. I thought ROM Manager let you install CWM and with CWM you can get to Recovery manager or something...)
3) Do I need the Recovery manager for recovery or for installation of custom ROMS?
4) What is the point of getting custom ROMS when I get root ?
Phone: GT-I8190
Android: 4.1.1
Baseband/Build: I8190XXALJL
Thanks in advance, and apologies for asking same question if there is a thread around here about it.
I'd prefer ppl to explain rather than referring to other threads as that got me a little confused before. (you may still refer if that thread is clear enough)
Ok. The order is
1- Root (superuser comes with it)
2- CWM
3-see the right rom for u
4- wipe data, cache, and dalvic in advanced, to flash rom
5-reset counter when u flash anthing in odin u will have a yello triangle to remove u have to reset counter ( does not effect the phone
Press like if i helped u
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mhoss48 said:
Ok. The order is
1- Root (superuser comes with it)
2- CWM
3-see the right rom for u
4- wipe data, cache, and dalvic in advanced, to flash rom
5-reset counter when u flash anthing in odin u will have a yello triangle to remove u have to reset counter ( does not effect the phone
Press like if i helped u
Sent from my HTC One X
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Could u explain 3 a bit more ?
Also is there any relationship between CWM, ROM manager, custom ROMS and Recovery Manager ?
Go to development forum, pick one of the pre rooted firmwares and flash via odin. Then install rommanager app from tbe play store and flash cwm recovery. Don't worry about binary count coz triangle away app works on our phone. If you want to wipe the phone reboot to recovery and wipe data. To boot into recovery use the quick boot app from play store.
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...and most important.. Don't forget to make a full nandroid backup in recovery before you start to apply mods and other things
Might come in handy if the phone fails to boot!
Should note that after custom rom you can't get access software update through kies air. At least I can't :-\
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Sv: Where to start ?
Who needs Kies when there is XDA?
Sent through time and space from my s3mini.
vonuzu said:
Go to development forum, pick one of the pre rooted firmwares and flash via odin. Then install rommanager app from tbe play store and flash cwm recovery. Don't worry about binary count coz triangle away app works on our phone. If you want to wipe the phone reboot to recovery and wipe data. To boot into recovery use the quick boot app from play store.
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So if I understand this the right way; CWM recovery has custom ROMS or am I getting the wrong idea ? - Why do I need it ?
(It's just that I've been a little confused because of the mass information available on XDA, so bear with me if I'm a bit annoying
tys0n said:
...and most important.. Don't forget to make a full nandroid backup in recovery before you start to apply mods and other things
Might come in handy if the phone fails to boot!
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Which would you prefer; Nandroid or Titanium ?
Do I need "busybox" for anything ?
Do I need Kies to connect my phone to PC btw ?
Another question: There are two recovery images on the official site of CWM, do we need to choose the normal one or the touch and what about the ROMS, do I need to install those seperately ?
Mystique03 said:
So if I understand this the right way; CWM recovery has custom ROMS or am I getting the wrong idea ? - Why do I need it ?
(It's just that I've been a little confused because of the mass information available on XDA, so bear with me if I'm a bit annoying
Which would you prefer; Nandroid or Titanium ?
Do I need "busybox" for anything ?
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With cwm or any other custom recovery you will be able to install zip files with mods, tweaks, roms, and so on. Simply put, non-samsung-signed-things + other functions as well.
You wont find many custom roms for s3mini yet wich it to be flashed through cwm. For now i think theres only BenzRom but I guess more will come
Nandroid or Titanium ? BOTH!
Nandroid for restore if something goes really bad, and remember to make sure you have a backup before you apply changes or mods. If you dont like it you can easily go back to previous state without flashing new firmware and have to install all your apps from scratch.
You will be just where you were at the time the nandroid was made.
Titanium backup to backup your apps and appdata. When installing new rom you can simply restore all your apps and appdata without downloading everything again. Do not restore systemdata. It often leads to alot of trouble.
Just make sure you save all your backups on your external sd, so it won't get wiped by mistake.
Busybox is needed if you want more than just root so go ahead and install.
tys0n said:
With cwm or any other custom recovery you will be able to install zip files with mods, tweaks, roms, and so on. Simply put, non-samsung-signed-things + other functions as well.
You wont find many custom roms for s3mini yet wich it to be flashed through cwm. For now i think theres only BenzRom but I guess more will come
Nandroid or Titanium ? BOTH!
Nandroid for restore if something goes really bad, and remember to make sure you have a backup before you apply changes or mods. If you dont like it you can easily go back to previous state without flashing new firmware and have to install all your apps from scratch.
You will be just where you were at the time the nandroid was made.
Titanium backup to backup your apps and appdata. When installing new rom you can simply restore all your apps and appdata without downloading everything again. Do not restore systemdata. It often leads to alot of trouble.
Just make sure you save all your backups on your external sd, so it won't get wiped by mistake.
Busybox is needed if you want more than just root so go ahead and install.
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Last couple of questions for now (apologies ) ;
1)Do I need Kies to connect my phone to PC btw, cuz I read something about USB debugging mode to be turned on and ADB...
2)There are two recovery images on the official site of CWM, do we need to choose the normal one or the touch and what about the ROMS, do I need to install those seperately ?
3)So every time we flash another ROM it has a chance to brick or are we safe if we made a backup beforehand ?
4)What format should I format my card to ? - FAT32, NTFS, ext4 or ...?
5)Does data wipe erase all data on phone or phone and sd card ?
6)Given both CWM and Odin flash what would be more recommended ?
Mystique03 said:
Last couple of questions for now (apologies ) ;
1)Do I need Kies to connect my phone to PC btw, cuz I read something about USB debugging mode to be turned on and ADB...
2)There are two recovery images on the official site of CWM, do we need to choose the normal one or the touch and what about the ROMS, do I need to install those seperately ?
3)So every time we flash another ROM it has a chance to brick or are we safe if we made a backup beforehand ?
4)What format should I format my card to ? - FAT32, NTFS, ext4 or ...?
5)Does data wipe erase all data on phone or phone and sd card ?
6)Given both CWM and Odin flash what would be more recommended ?
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No worries. Better be safe than sorry
1. No, you dont need keis unless you want to look for official updates.
For filetransfer I use Airdroid or box/dropdox/4shared. Official updates will be available to download anyway
Adb (Android Debug Bridge) is just a terminal. I won't go in to details here but you will find lots of threads on how to install and use it if you search xda.
2. They both do the same thing, but in touch-version you make your choices on touch screen while the other one is managed with phones physical buttons. I prefer the latest.
Roms for cwm are packed as .zip & are downloaded separately. As I said before there isn't much to chose from for our device yet.
3. Everything done after root is a risk. Even root can be dangerous if it's not done right.
Usually if something goes wrong it will just lead to a softbrick wich can be fixed in download mode or recovery.
Once rooted, make sure you do that cwm-backup to keep on your external sd. It's also a good idea to keep an odin flashable firmware on your computer, just to be sure.
4. Go for fat32. It can be changed later if you want to explore link2sd, sd-swap etc..
5. Factory reset will wipe all internal, but not your external sd.
6. cwm makes it possible to flash custom roms while odin can't. You need odin to flash official samsung firmware, but cwm to flash custom roms, mods, and so on. Can't really compare those two with each other, as they are used for different things.
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Dated, but still very relevant.
tys0n said:
No worries. Better be safe than sorry
1. No, you dont need keis unless you want to look for official updates.
For filetransfer I use Airdroid or box/dropdox/4shared. Official updates will be available to download anyway
Adb (Android Debug Bridge) is just a terminal. I won't go in to details here but you will find lots of threads on how to install and use it if you search xda.
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What should I do for wired transfers only, I mean.
Do I need to search for the phone specific driver for pc at Official Samsung site or is there no driver ?
Any other things I need to turn on except USB debugging mode when wired ?
Edit: Nvm, just got on the right track again
My question is, is it possible to create a nandroid backup from my XZ and restore it on another XZ, which is identical, but a new phone without problems?
My XZ is on 4.2.2. .latest stock firmware, rooted, locked bootloader, softkey mod, lockscreen text mod ,twrp + cwm dual recovery.
I'm not sure, but I'm hoping if I do a nandroid and put it on my microsd and then root the new phone and install cwm/twrp recovery I can then restore my nandroid from sdcard and everything will be exactly as before on the other phone?
All the system settings like wifi acces points, apns, contacts, sms, call log, launcher settings, shortcuts, apps, data, EVERYTHING?! Even the softkey mod will be there again automatically?
Of course assuming everything from the old phone was stored on the microsd like pictures, videos and music, etc. except system settings and data and my user apps which are on the internal memory and should be backed up with the nandroid?
Or am I missing something here? It would not work with stock recovery to restore the nandroid, would it? I have to root and install cwm first?
Or should I go the Titanium Backup way?
I'm just looking for the best, easiest, fastest and most complete solution.
Root new phone (can't get CWM/TWRP any other way) Install @[NUT] dual boot recovery and nandroid restore should work. Baseband on new phone won't change though.
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shoey63 said:
Root new phone (can't get CWM/TWRP any other way) Install @[NUT] dual boot recovery and nandroid restore should work. Baseband on new phone won't change though.
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so what is the worst that could happen if I restore the nandroid on another XZ? Could I brick my phone?! Would it just not work, e.g. not boot up or something? And could I make the device usable again by flashing a stock rom through flashtool?
Why won't the baseband not change and is it important in order for the nandroid/phone to work properly or can I flash or change that later if necessary?
drsoran2 said:
My question is, is it possible to create a nandroid backup from my XZ and restore it on another XZ, which is identical, but a new phone without problems?
My XZ is on 4.2.2. .latest stock firmware, rooted, locked bootloader, softkey mod, lockscreen text mod ,twrp + cwm dual recovery.
I'm not sure, but I'm hoping if I do a nandroid and put it on my microsd and then root the new phone and install cwm/twrp recovery I can then restore my nandroid from sdcard and everything will be exactly as before on the other phone?
All the system settings like wifi acces points, apns, contacts, sms, call log, launcher settings, shortcuts, apps, data, EVERYTHING?! Even the softkey mod will be there again automatically?
Of course assuming everything from the old phone was stored on the microsd like pictures, videos and music, etc. except system settings and data and my user apps which are on the internal memory and should be backed up with the nandroid?
Or am I missing something here? It would not work with stock recovery to restore the nandroid, would it? I have to root and install cwm first?
Or should I go the Titanium Backup way?
I'm just looking for the best, easiest, fastest and most complete solution.
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In simple words, YES, you can restore your old XZ's NANDROID to a new one
Yes
The answer to this question is YES.
Just disable MD5 checksum verification and make the backup.
Once backup is made transfer the file to the XZ number 2.
Boot into CWM and find the recovery and restore from it.
It'll be exactly the same as XZ number 1
Things on the external SD card will not be backed up so you'll have to transfer that over manually.
Hello I have an xperia z c6602 I'm currently using pac man rom with meow kernel
My bootloader is unlocked and I want to go back to stock
I have a CWM backup of my stock rom. And a backup of my TA partition (i read it was useful)
How do I go back to stock? Can I just restore my CWM backup? Or I have to flash through Emma? How do I restore my ta backup?
Can someone be so kind to guide in a newbie way please? (I'm use to play around with Samsung devices. This is really different!)
plotinus said:
Hello I have an xperia z c6602 I'm currently using pac man rom with meow kernel
My bootloader is unlocked and I want to go back to stock
I have a CWM backup of my stock rom. And a backup of my TA partition (i read it was useful)
How do I go back to stock? Can I just restore my CWM backup? Or I have to flash through Emma? How do I restore my ta backup?
Can someone be so kind to guide in a newbie way please? (I'm use to play around with Samsung devices. This is really different!)
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Hello, I was on pac rom few days ago as well, then i decided to try miui which is based on stock.
So here's the steps:
BACK UP ALL YOUR INTERNAL SD FILES AND FOLDERS because flashing ftf will erase everything inside internal sd, I never did a backup, lost all the chats and messages. :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:
copy all the flashable .zip u want to your sd card.
Flash a stock .ftf file .67 / .74 will do, then root it with any method u want
then flash original kernel using flashtool
then reboot str8 to recovery and proceed to do a clean wipe then flash any stock custom rom you want.
let me know if you have any doubts or question here.
My method is
1.Backup everything, photos, messages, app data using titanium backup, literally everything you need.
2.Store backups somewhere safe, especially titanium backup file(the whole thing).
3.Flash back stock rom and wiping everything.
4.Relock bootloader.
5.Now you have a clean phone, root it again and restore titanium backup app datas,
But be sure to only restore games, apps, but not system files, it may causes crash.
6.Restore the rest of them.
xIceCream said:
Hello, I was on pac rom few days ago as well, then i decided to try miui which is based on stock.
So here's the steps:
BACK UP ALL YOUR INTERNAL SD FILES AND FOLDERS because flashing ftf will erase everything inside internal sd, I never did a backup, lost all the chats and messages. :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:
copy all the flashable .zip u want to your sd card.
Flash a stock .ftf file .67 / .74 will do, then root it with any method u want
then flash original kernel using flashtool
then reboot str8 to recovery and proceed to do a clean wipe then flash any stock custom rom you want.
let me know if you have any doubts or question here.
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Thanks for the replies! Do you know how to restore my ta backup? Or by flashing the stock rom it would be the same? If not. At what part of the process should I do it?
plotinus said:
Thanks for the replies! Do you know how to restore my ta backup? Or by flashing the stock rom it would be the same? If not. At what part of the process should I do it?
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restore ta backup is the last step basically, ( after flashing stock kernel and stock rom)
i think you used the backup ta for windows from one thread if i'm not wrong,
just restore dry run just to make sure the ta is correct and then just restore it
(the phone should be power on like normal, with usb debugging on)
for your concern, cwm backup also can be used, just restore it and it's done, but, the app data and all other things will return to the state during the time you made the backup, so the progress you did in this custom rom wil not be saved, unless you used titanium backup after you restore nandroid.
Excellent! Thanks man I will restore my backup and restore TA. And yes. I used a Windows tool to make the ta backup (don't even know what's that for. I just read it was important) haha
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Got a question about unlocking bootloader and the current state of my phone:
First up, this is the current state of my phone:
Bootloader locked
Rooted
Dual Recovery installed (??)
RomAur 4 installed
So basically the state of my phone is that I followed to guide in the RomAur post to install their ROM.
When I reboot my phone I get the extra buzz so I can hold Vol up/down to enter recovery.
I have root, but the sys partition is not mountable as R/W in RomAur 4 but I can flash zips in recovery.
I want to install iHackers v2 ROM and maybe also unlock bootloader as it seems all camera issues have been sorted (correct me if I'm wrong) (are there are reasons I should/shouldn't unlock the bootloader?).
What do I have to do to go from RomAur 4 to iHackers 2.0 with the current state of my phone? Should I bother unlocking bootloader to use a 3rd party kernel?
Are [nandroid] backups done in CWM any use at all as it seems that when flashing a ROM you then have to use flashtool to flash a kernel and radio so I'm guessing that the backups wont be able to restore these either?
Thanks for all the help and bloody hard work you guys put into developing for our phones.
cyberguru said:
Got a question about unlocking bootloader and the current state of my phone:
First up, this is the current state of my phone:
Bootloader locked
Rooted
Dual Recovery installed (??)
RomAur 4 installed
So basically the state of my phone is that I followed to guide in the RomAur post to install their ROM.
When I reboot my phone I get the extra buzz so I can hold Vol up/down to enter recovery.
I have root, but the sys partition is not mountable as R/W in RomAur 4 but I can flash zips in recovery.
I want to install iHackers v2 ROM and maybe also unlock bootloader as it seems all camera issues have been sorted (correct me if I'm wrong) (are there are reasons I should/shouldn't unlock the bootloader?).
What do I have to do to go from RomAur 4 to iHackers 2.0 with the current state of my phone? Should I bother unlocking bootloader to use a 3rd party kernel?
Are [nandroid] backups done in CWM any use at all as it seems that when flashing a ROM you then have to use flashtool to flash a kernel and radio so I'm guessing that the backups wont be able to restore these either?
Thanks for all the help and bloody hard work you guys put into developing for our phones.
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As long as you save backs up on an external SD card you should be fine. I don't know what data you can restore back though. Photos, texts, apps, etc, should be okay. I'd back up with Titanium or something then just restore after. (I recommend nandroid also for your own peace of mind and hassle free experience)
Best thing to do is just do it from fresh to save you any hassle if you're going to wipe the phone anyway. It's best to wipe the phone before so nothing goes wrong.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2539008
As it says:
Copy the ROM to External SDCard.
Install iHackers Advanced Stock Kernel.
Reboot into Recovery.
Make Sure to do a Wipe Data/Factory Reset before Installing the ROM.
Start the Installation. (Install Zip >> Choose Zip for External SDCard).
Switch Off Your Phone (Do Not Reboot). Select No to Disable Flash Recovery Confirmation.
Install Kernel.ftf for C6903 (.290) or Kernel.ftf for C6902 (.290) with Flashtool to get compatible Kernel and Baseband.
Reinstall Your Desired Kernel.
Reboot and Enjoy.
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All camera issues sorted in iHackers v1.2.
Personally I'm running iHackers's PureStock.
If you want to unlock the bootloader, DON'T FORGET TO BACKUP TA partition.
You can unlock bootloader (after you have backed up TA), then install iHackers kernel, and go to Philz recovery (I believe it is volume up, but might be down), then click on wipe, then wipe for installing new ROM (or something like that), then install the iHackers ROM.zip
Regards,
~J2C
Just2Cause said:
If you want to unlock the bootloader, DON'T FORGET TO BACK TA partition.
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Why I should do that? With 4.3 still no problem unlock bootloader and I am already on 4.3 and I didn't backup anything. The only reason is Warranty.
To be honest I don't really have any 'data' on my phone that I would miss if I lost it... some photo's, MP3's.. I only do nandroid backups so that I can test a new ROM, if I don't like it or it doesn't work I can just go back to Recovery and restore the nandroid and continue as I was but that was on Samsung devices and I'm a little worried as to the usefulness of the nandroids on this phone. Why do we have to flash kernel and radio using flashtool and why can't they be installed with the .zip/ROM?
I have a backup of my TA partition; I did it as a step in rooting/flashing some other ROM but didn't really know why I was doing it but it's stored away for whatever reason I need it!
I think for the time being I'll keep a locked BL, but I want to get rid of this ROM off my phone. I really need /sys to be mounted as R/W and I'm having some WiFi issues with RomAur 4.
eclyptos said:
Why I should do that? With 4.3 still no problem unlock bootloader and I am already on 4.3 and I didn't backup anything. The only reason is Warranty.
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Well, you said it. Warranty.
cyberguru said:
I think for the time being I'll keep a locked BL, but I want to get rid of this ROM off my phone. I really need /sys to be mounted as R/W and I'm having some WiFi issues with RomAur 4.
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So far, you can't get /sys mounted as R/W with a locked bootloader, even on custom ROMs.
If you want full root, the only way is to unlock bootloader.
Regards,
~J2C
Just2Cause said:
Well, you said it. Warranty.
So far, you can't get /sys mounted as R/W with a locked bootloader, even on custom ROMs.
If you want full root, the only way is to unlock bootloader.
Regards,
~J2C
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Dont think thats 100% accurate - you can get Root with /sys mounted as R/W on roms <4.3. I had iHackers (1.2 I think) working with r/w system partition I just got a little flash-happy when a 4.3 ROM came out and went and flashed it.
Doesn't matter now anyway.. I unlocked the BL! Flashed iHackers 2... what a pile of crap (my opinion)... installed a load of stuff I purposefully unticked in Aroma and has lost me root.. yay.
If I restore a nandroid of iHackers 1.2 from CWM will I brick my phone in any way seeing as I'm currently on Android 4.3 with all the kernels and radios that brings..? That is of course saying I can get into recovery...
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Can't get into CWM... brilliant. I guess I'm going to have to use flashtool to downgrade and root my phone or something like that now.. Wouldn't mind but I'm at work and have to download ROMs on my phone because of work proxies!
cyberguru said:
Dont think thats 100% accurate - you can get Root with /sys mounted as R/W on roms <4.3. I had iHackers (1.2 I think) working with r/w system partition I just got a little flash-happy when a 4.3 ROM came out and went and flashed it.
Doesn't matter now anyway.. I unlocked the BL! Flashed iHackers 2... what a pile of crap (my opinion)... installed a load of stuff I purposefully unticked in Aroma and has lost me root.. yay.
If I restore a nandroid of iHackers 1.2 from CWM will I brick my phone in any way seeing as I'm currently on Android 4.3 with all the kernels and radios that brings..? That is of course saying I can get into recovery...
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Yea, I meant it can't be done on 4.3
Well, Why don't you just flash stock ROM (4.3) then 257 then 534 and then install iHackers 1.2 without any problems.
Regards,
~J2C
Right, deleted last post but in summary; got root back but no Play Store and no recovery installed so did some good old fassioned searching:
Over in Original Android dev there is a discussion for Root on 4.3. The first post has links to kernels with recoveries and SuperSU by chainfire... downloaded Philz and SuperSU and now just need to figure out how to flash the two of them..
I take it something like
Code:
fastboot flash boot filename.img
will take care of flashing kernel to my UL phone so then I power on and press Vol Up, Vol down to enter recovery and flash SuperSU?
Wish me luck