Is the AMOLED screen on the nexus 6 going to be the latest generation AMOLED screen?
If it's not the latest Note 4 screen, and looks something like the Note 3, then I'm not going to be a big fan of the screen... Are there any reviews on the display yet?
Chances of it matching Note 4 display are very slim. Samsung will of course keep its best panels for itself, like in the past.
Sigh, I wish note 4 had a stock Android option then...
Android police says that the 6 is even dimmer at first glance than the X. Not that it should matter in realy world readability and color accuracy, but I suspect that Note 4 would win out on quality.
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Android police says that the 6 is even dimmer at first glance than the X. Not that it should matter in realy world readability and color accuracy, but I suspect that Note 4 would win out on quality.
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Liam, of Android Police was referring to the minimum brightness level between the two devices. As far as max brightness is concern, he stated that the device was brighter than the Nexus 5 as shown in the first attachment
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Liam, of Android Police was referring to the minimum brightness level between the two devices. As far as max brightness is concern, he stated that the device was brighter than the Nexus 5 as shown in the first attachment
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This is superb news! The N5 screen gets very bright IMO and am happy to see the N6 outdoes it
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This is superb news! The N5 screen gets very bright IMO and am happy to see the N6 outdoes it
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Lol, that's only in the dark. It appears that the N5 gets dimmer.
Note 4 Vs Nexus 6
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56143803&postcount=39
We are talking AMOLED vs Super AMOLED... From what I've heard, S-AMOLED keeps all of the advantages of LCD displays when it comes to the outdoors... I'm expecting the N6's display to be a tad better than the Galaxy Note 3, but definitively not on par with the Note 4...
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We are talking AMOLED vs Super AMOLED... From what I've heard, S-AMOLED keeps all of the advantages of LCD displays when it comes to the outdoors... I'm expecting the N6's display to be a tad better than the Galaxy Note 3, but definitively not on par with the Note 4...
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Pretty sure that Super AMOLED is just a trademarked name by Samsung. Probably not much difference at all between one or the other as far as technology goes.
Super amoled is just samsung copyright. ...but is a little different they put a anti glare film between the digitizer and glass ....
Watch the Engadget hands on review. The screen appears to get very bright. He is in a well lit area too that usually washes out a screen.
There was a comparison video that showed max brightness of moto x (2014), nexus 5, nexus 6, and galaxy s5. The nexus 6 was not as bright as the galaxy s5, but brighter than the nexus 5 and moto x.
Yeah, it's plenty bright. I'm not worried about the screen at all at this point. My only concern is will I be able to get it from VZW and it still be able to unlock the bootloader. The Nexus 6 is all about the development available on top of being a super phone all in all.
I've noticed first impression articles-videos mention that the Note 4 display colors are more "punchy" (perhaps more color satured by default) but the Nexus 6 (while the handset is only marginally larger) is described as big & beautiful with superior speakers-overall performance.
This video showed up Nov 4 in case missed:
Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj4wRSx55wY
Ref: http://cdn.gottabemobile.com/wp-content/uploads/Nexus6vsNote4-2-620x412.jpg
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I've noticed first impression articles-videos mention that the Note 4 display colors are more "punchy" (perhaps more color satured by default)
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Well there's no point unless he sets the screen mode to Basic on the note 4
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I've noticed first impression articles-videos mention that the Note 4 display colors are more "punchy" (perhaps more color satured by default) but the Nexus 6 (while the handset is only marginally larger) is described as big & beautiful with superior speakers-overall performance.
This video showed up Nov 4 in case missed:
Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj4wRSx55wY
Ref: http://cdn.gottabemobile.com/wp-content/uploads/Nexus6vsNote4-2-620x412.jpg
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Do we know if those are on Max Brightness or auto brightness?
As the Nexus 6 definitely looks brighter.
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I'd assume they are both on their default screen modes. Even on my Note 2, I have played with the other screen modes briefly but they seem more dull than the default standard mode.
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Do we know if those are on Max Brightness or auto brightness?
As the Nexus 6 definitely looks brighter.
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In that video at http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/11/04/nexus-6-vs-galaxy-note-4-size-comparison/ I'd assume they are both on their respective max brightness (not auto brightness).
From my long post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56143803&postcount=39 I think the Nexus 6 may actually be brighter on max brightness (>400 nits) while the Note4 in direct sunlight may be worth switching to auto-brightness since according to http://www.androidbeat.com/2014/09/displaymate-praises-galaxy-note4-amoled-display-performance/ max brightness could go from 400 nits up to 750 nits:
"On the brightness side, the Galaxy Note 4’s AMOLED display can go as bright as up to 400 nits in manual mode, which is comparable to displays of the same size. Under Automatic Brightness mode though, the Note 4’s display can reach a brightness level of up to 750 nits. Even the minimum brightness levels of the display is an impressively low 2 nits.
The Reflectance score of 4.8% indicates that the Note 4’s display will be clearly visible even under direct sunlight without the need for the user to squint their eyes."
The following screenshot at 40 seconds from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fn8OnzDO5Y indicates they were both on max brightness (auto brightness not checked on Note 4):
Ref: http://i61.tinypic.com/105bayx.jpg
Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Fn8OnzDO5Y (Nexus 6 vs Note 4 comparison outdoors on max brightness-but auto brightness not checked where the Note 4 is claimed to go from max manual 400 nits to 750 nits)
Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj4wRSx55wY (Nexus 6 vs Note 4 comparison indoors with unknown brightness levels but assumed they were set to same manual max brightness)
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if the galaxy S' screen is known to be way better than the iphone 4 ( AMOLED vs Retina ) then how come when i hold my friend's iphone i see his phone's display looking wayyy much better than my galaxy ? even at full brightness , mine still looks yellow/ or darker than his screen
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and i get these results or worse on different roms and kernels , any idea why and how to fix it ?
well I have compared an iPhone and my sgs and their is no comparison, mine was way better. Both were at fully brightness , that time I was at 2.3.4 jvr stock.
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You can use Voodoo colour to adjust the colour settings.
Iphone's has higher resolution.
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Iphone's has higher resolution.
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Probably what he says he correct. I'm no expert, But if you look real close at the display screens (you can notice this on letters), You can see the dots (pixels) that made up each letter (or an image) on galaxy S. (and S ii as well).
But on iPhone, The Pixels are not visible, thus makes the image more smooth and clearer.
Screen on my SGS II looks great. Fonts look smooth and clear; even small font sizes. IMHO, I think the the Super AMOLED+ display looks much better than the screen on the iPhone 4. It's brighter, has far better color saturation, and is more energy efficient. I prefer AMOLED displays over traditional LCD because AMOLED displays have self illuminating pixels, which means no backlighting is needed, making for an evenly lit display. (no bright spots or shadowing).
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My uncle has an iPhone4 and his screen may be more crisp, but the colors on my sgs is so much better.
If you want the best screen available buy a galaxy nexus, the screen has almost (just a few procent) the same ppi as the iPhone, but its a super amoled screen so the colors are much more vivid then the iPhone.
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I phone's screen is 3.5" and sgs's screen is 4.0" and so even if they had equal resolutions then iPhone would have came out better . Here we are talking about brightness and colours and I don't believe iPhone has any comparison with this beauty I am typing this reply on.
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The screen of the Galaxy S IS better. Maybe you were not at full brightness oder sth like that ..
It's really supposed to be better, like the people before me posted.
A iphone user will say "mine is better" .. don't mind
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The screen of the Galaxy S IS better. Maybe you were not at full brightness oder sth like that ..
It's really supposed to be better, like the people before me posted.
A iphone user will say "mine is better" .. don't mind
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Haha, maybe he was at low battery when he compared his sgs with iphone .
Iphone has way more pixels than the i9000. plus iphone does not use pentile.
iphone is 960x640 x 3 (normal rbg is 3 subpixels per pixel)= 1 843 200 subpixels
samsung i9000 is 800x480x2(pentile is 2 subpixels per pixel) = 768 000 subpixels
1843000/768000=2.4
so iphone has 2.4 times more subpixels than the i9000.
plus iphone has a small smaller screen, considering all these factors, iphone will no doubt look better. But ask yourself, how much marginal utility (real usable benefits) would you get out of a such high density screen?
My answer is there is no really extra benefits you can get out.
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Iphone has way more pixels than the i9000. plus iphone does not use pentile.
iphone is 960x640 x 3 (normal rbg is 3 subpixels per pixel)= 1 843 200 subpixels
samsung i9000 is 800x480x2(pentile is 2 subpixels per pixel) = 768 000 subpixels
1843000/768000=2.4
so iphone has 2.4 times more subpixels than the i9000.
plus iphone has a small smaller screen, considering all these factors, iphone will no doubt look better. But ask yourself, how much marginal utility (real usable benefits) would you get out of a such high density screen?
My answer is there is no really extra benefits you can get out.
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+1 and great maths.
I think this guy is trolling here!
Blah blah blah. The retina display has higher pixel density; so what. This forum is about Android, not iPhone. I think I speak for most when I say that nobody cares about the iPhone or it's retina display. Apple's idea of state of the art is a recycled iPhone 4 with 3g? I'll pass. You fanboys can keep your overpriced, old technology.
Iphone edges out the sgs in a number or screen aspects, but SGS has two extremely important and significant advantages.
1. Screen size - ip4 screen is tiny. higher resolution helps out but it's just more comfortable and practical to use a bigger screen.
2. Contrast - ever since I looked at the superamoled, all other screen contrast has been ewww (iphone, ipad included), especially in darker settings.
For that, my next phone must have amoled plus a screen size >= 4"
iphone4;
+more pixels (high resolution small area)..
sgs;
+good color
+good contrast
+bigger
the reason why your screen may be darker is because AMOLED screen tend to wear down over time.
the only problem in my case is the battery i ve SGS1
Back light displays are passe.
AMOLED at this state is not the future technology.
Why?
It dies so fast (burn-in effect shows this), and maybe after a year it could lose third of the initial brightness.
Just look at the new LCDs over 1000 nits and reduced power consumption, viewing angle needless to speak of, and many more improvements, AMOLED gain sharpness, and lost some brightness, burn-in still there, and some other problems.
I had Samsung Wave and then SGS and returning to SGS 2 or Galaxy Nexus is a no go since there is no improvement on this field (give big cash and worry about how long was the status bar on, so it won't burn in, give me a brake).
Amoled is yet to grow or die...
I like every aspect of nexus 6
but i'm a bit worried about the brightness of the screen
since AMOLED are kind of infamous for not able to use outdoor
I'm guessing the screen will be similar to Moto X 2014
Anyone who own the phone, can you please share the experience for using the phone under bright sun?
MrHardplastic said:
I like every aspect of nexus 6
but i'm a bit worried about the brightness of the screen
since AMOLED are kind of infamous for not able to use outdoor
I'm guessing the screen will be similar to Moto X 2014
Anyone who own the phone, can you please share the experience for using the phone under bright sun?
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That's the important question. This year's AMOLED's (Galaxy S5, Note 4, Tab S) were very bright... but last year's AMOLED's (Galaxy S4).. not so much. Note 3 was fine however.
some review says moto X 2014 has poor outdoor visibility
and according to phonearena screen measurement, the moto X only has a maximum brightness of 385 nits
Now i'm seriously worried about the N6.....
I will accept anything higher than 450 nits, but 385 nits is just way too low
btw, I always never understood why maximum brightness is not part of the standard specs, it's an important factor, sometimes it's more important than pixel density or color saturation
While I will take all the brightness I can get, I have only struggled a few times with my S4 outdoors. I just don't use my phone all that much in full sunlight. Maybe check a football score during my kid's soccer game. Not exactly mission critical, but I guess it would be nice if it were easier. I certainly wouldn't give up the superior blacks the other 99.99% of the time. But given the awesome screens on the latest Samsungs, we should be able to have our cake and eat it, too.
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It's about this bright [emoji295]️[emoji295]️[emoji295]️
Its brightness is 270 nits (quite dim when you go by the numbers)
While its 850+ on my z3!
I guess I won't be selling my z3 for a n6 after all!
As with most single specs, the luminance in nits only tells part of the story. I'll wait to see what the N6 screen looks like in full sun before making a final decision.
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As with most single specs, the luminance in nits only tells part of the story. I'll wait to see what the N6 screen looks like in full sun before making a final decision.
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Very true. Amoled screen have very different reflective properties when compared to an LCD IPS screen. The outdoor viewing experience could and should actually be really good based on all the reviews.
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gtalum said:
As with most single specs, the luminance in nits only tells part of the story. I'll wait to see what the N6 screen looks like in full sun before making a final decision.
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Very true. Amoled screen have very different reflective properties when compared to an LCD IPS screen. The outdoor viewing experience could and should actually be really good based on all the reviews.
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Based on reviews the screen looks less vivid, less sharp and more dull than the Note 4. The visibility is less also; many reviewers claim the screen has great PPI but overall is not amazing. No surprises here - Samsung saves the best screens for themselves and everyone else gets rejects. For that reason I would've used an IPS display, like the iPhone 6+ (which has great visibility in sunlight, sharp and good colours).
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Based on reviews the screen looks less vivid, less sharp and more dull than the Note 4. The visibility is less also; many reviewers claim the screen has great PPI but overall is not amazing. No surprises here - Samsung saves the best screens for themselves and everyone else gets rejects. For that reason I would've used an IPS display, like the iPhone 6+ (which has great visibility in sunlight, sharp and good colours).
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If that's the case then Google clearly chose the ambient display (which requires amoled) over an IPS display. The note 4 arguably has the best screen in the world and we don't don't know if Google could get their hands on the iPhone 6 display. Maybe they tried and still couldn't get it.
Google can still calibrate the display properly. We'll just have to wait and see.
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If that's the case then Google clearly chose the ambient display (which requires amoled) over an IPS display. The note 4 arguably has the best screen in the world and we don't don't know if Google could get their hands on the iPhone 6 display. Maybe they tried and still couldn't get it.
Google can still calibrate the display properly. We'll just have to wait and see.
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We can also, you know...Make calibrations ourselves as well once Custom Kernels make their rounds..
If colour reproduction is an issue we should have little to worry if we can modify it in due time.
Here's how to find out - go look at one yourself before purchase.
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Its brightness is 270 nits (quite dim when you go by the numbers)
While its 850+ on my z3!
I guess I won't be selling my z3 for a n6 after all!
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You are going to have to post a source for that, because I dont believe the Z3 has 850nit brightness at all. A quick Google search showed nothing of the sort either.
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You are going to have to post a source for that, because I dont believe the Z3 has 850nit brightness at all. A quick Google search showed nothing of the sort either.
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http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3-review-1140p3.php
Go to display section
As a Nexus 4 user, i really love this screen! Its screen colors are like bundis ip5 profile (screen color tuning) with even more whiter whites and superb brightness!
Google for nexus 6
Had to search a lot for nexus 6's
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We can also, you know...Make calibrations ourselves as well once Custom Kernels make their rounds..
If colour reproduction is an issue we should have little to worry if we can modify it in due time.
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i am happy this was answered so i didn't have to make a post just to make sure. i know i have options for dpi and auto brighness controls on my gs2. but i have to wonder why they set it so low in the first place? was it for battery savings? is it because the reflectivity is so good that it didn't need to be higher? is it because it will burn out the organics? if the gs3, 290 nits, was good enough to see outside then i guess this one will be also. it just sucks that it is so low. and i don't know if i would want to trust a kernel that raised it.
darkrai said:
http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3-review-1140p3.php
Go to display section
As a Nexus 4 user, i really love this screen! Its screen colors are like bundis ip5 profile (screen color tuning) with even more whiter whites and superb brightness!
Google for nexus 6
Had to search a lot for nexus 6's
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Sony smarthones have the worst display ever. turn off bravia engine (contrast and vivid) and you will love motorola 720i ;P
PhoneArena state the Nexus 6 is 270nits.
& the Nexus 5 is 485nits
Yet, I'm pretty sure we've seen both phones on Max brightness next to each other with the Nexus 6 being brighter.
In fact, every video I've seen with both the Nexus 6 & Note 4 has shown the Nexus to have the brighter screen with much better whites.
.....explain!?
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brighter screen with much better whites.
.....explain!?
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Much better whites? Yes I think so. Brighter? Where on earth did you see it brighter than note 4? Please share a link?
Thanks
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Much better whites? Yes I think so. Brighter? Where on earth did you see it brighter than note 4? Please share a link?
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Every video I've seen with both phones together.
If the Nexus 6 is supposed to only be 270nits, how is this possible?
I've also seen an image of the Nexus 5 & 6 together on Max brightness with the 6 being brighter.
Nexus 5 is 485 nits so PhoneArenas 270nits claim makes no sense at all.
Even in PhoneArenas own video, the Nexus looks brighter than the Note 4, easily visible during browsing & the video benchmark etc.
Google Nexus 6 vs Samsung Galaxy Note 4: http://youtu.be/afOEn-zm_y0
It's funny because when I was playing with the Note 4 in a Sprint store I was surprised to learn that the screen was at full brightness. It didn't seem all that bright to me.
2014, Nexus 6: 5.96 inch screen
2015, Nexus 6P: 5.7 inch screen
2016, Pixel XL: 5.5 inch screen
It seems like the large screen for the Pixel/Nexus (Nexel? Pixus? Pexus?) devices are trending downward. To me, this is a real shame, since I love the size of my nexus 6.
I was considering the 6P as an upgrade in the near future, but the lower screen size is one of the main reasons for me to avoid upgrading. Although the drop from 6 to 6p is less than 5%, and the drop to the Pixel XL is less than 10% of the screen size.
Is the drop in screen size between the 6 and 6P noticeable (does the bezel have a larger effect than the screen size). Anyone have experience with both devices? Is there a reason Google has been lowering the screen size (battery performance, ergonomics, heat?)
Likely the sizing will just be the screen with wider bezels. My friend got a Note 7 (exploding battery edition) and the specs for that is 5.5" vs the 5.96" of the Nexus 6 yet when you put them size by size they are virtually the same length, although the note 7 is slightly more narrow.
andy_n_ said:
2014, Nexus 6: 5.96 inch screen
2015, Nexus 6P: 5.7 inch screen
2016, Pixel XL: 5.5 inch screen
Is there a reason Google has been lowering the screen size (battery performance, ergonomics, heat?)
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I think the resolution is more important.
My N6 has 2560 x 1440 pixels.
Most apps support max. 1920 x 1080 pixels.
The more pixels the more battery drain.
I am a big fan of the 5.96 screen. My last phone was a great device but I can't imagine going back to a 5.7.
Outatime67 said:
I am a big fan of the 5.96 screen. My last phone was a great device but I can't imagine going back to a 5.7.
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There will be new phones with bezelless display.
So phones will be smaller.
My girlfriend has the LG g4 at 5.5 inches. My last phone was the SG2 at 4.5". My S2 compared to her device was absolutely minuscule. But I just bought an N6. Putting this next to her 5.5" display makes her phone appear small to me now! I think that the screen size of the N6 is perfect. I also like the dimensions of the device. I will be keeping this until there is another comparable 6" device around. I now think that 5.5" is the absolute smallest I would every buy again.
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My girlfriend has the LG g4 at 5.5 inches. My last phone was the SG2 at 4.5". My S2 compared to her device was absolutely minuscule. But I just bought an N6. Putting this next to her 5.5" display makes her phone appear small to me now! I think that the screen size of the N6 is perfect. I also like the dimensions of the device. I will be keeping this until there is another comparable 6" device around. I now think that 5.5" is the absolute smallest I would every buy again.
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Yeah... that's what I was afraid of. I love the N6, but its starting to show its age. I really wish for a good 5.9"+ phone to upgrade to.
5.5 -6 is optimal IMO
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Yeah... that's what I was afraid of. I love the N6, but its starting to show its age. I really wish for a good 5.9"+ phone to upgrade to.
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So far I am happy with the N6! Even being a 2 year old device. When I bought it, it already had the final N Preview installed. It's battery life is absolutely amazing! I regularly get 36-40 hours on battery with 6-7.5 hours of SOT ( I don't play games, and only watch the occasional video). It feels so damn fast as well! I think I will be okay with it for at least another couple of years as long as the final release of N doesn't blow the battery life and performance!
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Yeah... that's what I was afraid of. I love the N6, but its starting to show its age. I really wish for a good 5.9"+ phone to upgrade to.
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Same here, I would like some of the newer hardware features and bigger battery. I went from HTC One Max to the Nexus 6. I don't think I could ever go back to less than 6in screen. I'm hoping Sony has a come back some of there new devices look and spec out real nice. They seem to be the only ones still putting out 6+ in devices.
bryanfritz1 said:
.... and bigger battery.....
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I like that, hope the designers will like that too...
NLBeev said:
I think the resolution is more important.
My N6 has 2560 x 1440 pixels.
Most apps support max. 1920 x 1080 pixels.
The more pixels the more battery drain.
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Nope. Its the screen size -- number of square inches, that relates to power consumption. One pixel with a brightness of "1" will consume the same amount of power as TWO pixels each with a brightness of "0.5".
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Nope. Its the screen size -- number of square inches, that relates to power consumption. One pixel with a brightness of "1" will consume the same amount of power as TWO pixels each with a brightness of "0.5".
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Don't understand. Imo 3686400 pixels use more power than 2073600 pixels.
5.7" or greater! Phablet ftw
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Don't understand. Imo 3686400 pixels use more power than 2073600 pixels.
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This isn't the first time he's said something like this, but in essence he's saying that the screen's actual resolution is half what is stated on the box and all the marketing materials. I think he's saying this because the screen is in a pentile arrangement, with twice as many green pixels as blue or red, and those green pixels are apparently smaller than the blue or red.
Since the green pixels are smaller, they would have a brightness of 0.5, and would require two of them to equal the brightness of a single blue or red pixel. Thus his claim that screen size relates to power consumption.
In the resolution department I think his assumptions are flawed, but he may well be right about the brightness. All I know is that all this technical discussion is getting away from the OP's question about screen sizes. Any of the three screen sizes would work for me, but I would prefer a 6" display.
I have both the 6 and the 6P. There is quite a difference in the screens, even though the size difference is only about .2 inches. The 6 is proportionately wider though physically the 6P is taller. Though the 6P is newer and has a fingerprint sensor, the 6 is my daily driver. It isn't just the 5.96 screen but also the fit and feel of the phone in my hand. The larger screen area makes using the phone a pleasure and the tapered sides makes the phone feel actually smaller than the 6P.
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In the resolution department I think his assumptions are flawed, but he may well be right about the brightness.....
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I understand. Thx for the explanation.
Also about the screen size I agree with you.
Nevertheless the battery consumption of an amoled display is a critical point and is related to the number of pixels.
Should we expect a 6" Pixel phone in the near future, versus only 5.5?
mikeprius said:
Likely the sizing will just be the screen with wider bezels. My friend got a Note 7 (exploding battery edition) and the specs for that is 5.5" vs the 5.96" of the Nexus 6 yet when you put them size by size they are virtually the same length, although the note 7 is slightly more narrow.
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Popularity is where the $ is. Look at the majority of flagship phones. I really like my Nexus 6, and must admit that I wish more phones were as wide- but sales trends are a major consideration for the bottom line. Lenovo has an interesting project tango "Phab 2 Pro" on the way. At 6.4 inches with same resolution and special cameras / software for camera modules and sensors that work hand-in-hand for Tango and the augmented reality experiences it will deliver. Augmented Reality Development anyone?
ronaldheld said:
Should we expect a 6" Pixel phone in the near future, versus only 5.5?
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We van only expect phones with stupid names.
The size of the display will be discussed forever. Let's hope that in the future it stays possible to make phone connections with friends, customers, family.....etc
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And......rooting and the fun of flashing apps and Roms that can do more than the official os.
I am hearing in reviews that the brightness is not that great, barely visible in direct sun.
That was one of the only things that really bothered me on the Pixel 3. Looks like
its a repeat on the 4! Anyone know the max brightness in nits?
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I just found this:
The Pixel 4 XL display appears Perfectly Sharp for normal 20/20 Vision at Typical Smartphone Viewing Distances of 12 to 18 inches (30 to 46 cm). A Full Screen Peak Brightness of 444 nits. That is horrible!
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That's better than this POS 6T I am using now...I suppose a HBM could fix that
Its basically identical to the 3 XL. Tried then side by side at Best Buy.
uicnren said:
Its basically identical to the 3 XL. Tried then side by side at Best Buy.
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There was bright sunlight inside Best Buy???
Max Brightness
bitwiser said:
There was bright sunlight inside Best Buy???
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From Displaymate:
The Pixel 3 XL has a 100% APL Calibrated Full Screen Brightness of 405 nits for the Calibrated Color Gamuts, which improves screen visibility in high Ambient Light. On its Home Screen the Pixel 3 XL produces 424 nits.
So it's true the max brightness is the same on the Pixel 4. Thats a deal breaker for me. And also pathetic max brightness.
It doesn't matter if you are looking at it in Best Buy in the sunlight or not, max brightness is max brightness.
Here is what the iphone 11's do, The iPhone 11 Pro also features a new 800 nits max brightness (typical); 1200 nits max brightness (HDR) display. This compares to the 625 nits max brightness (typical) display of the iPhone 11. I can tell you side by side the iphone 11 at 625 nits is way brighter than the Pixel 4. The Pro will be even more of a difference. Go to Best Buy and see for yourself. I always struggled
to see the Pixel 3XL in direct sunlight and was hoping for a brighter display this year
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That's barely better than the 438 nits on the Pixel 2 XL but I rarely have issues seeing the screen in directly. And I live in the sunshine state. It would be nice if it got bursts of brightness like 800+ but guess what, that would make for an even worse battery. And I'm sure the Pixel 4 XL is going to be far from a battery champ.
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EeZeEpEe said:
That's barely better than the 438 nits on the Pixel 2 XL but I rarely have issues seeing the screen in directly. And I live in the sunshine state. It would be nice if it got bursts of brightness like 800+ but guess what, that would make for an even worse battery. And I'm sure the Pixel 4 XL is going to be far from a battery champ.
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More like a battery chump!
ZeroKool76 said:
That's better than this POS 6T I am using now...I suppose a HBM could fix that
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But not as good as the 7T (have both and compared side by side).
EeZeEpEe said:
That's barely better than the 438 nits on the Pixel 2 XL but I rarely have issues seeing the screen in directly. And I live in the sunshine state. It would be nice if it got bursts of brightness like 800+ but guess what, that would make for an even worse battery. And I'm sure the Pixel 4 XL is going to be far from a battery champ.
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Still, it would be great if Google actually gave me the option of prioritizing screen brightness over battery life (which isn't a real concern for me, since I'm close to my charger basically 24/7).
hthiengo said:
Still, it would be great if Google actually gave me the option of prioritizing screen brightness over battery life (which isn't a real concern for me, since I'm close to my charger basically 24/7).
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I agree with choice. Like the Pixel 4 is totally capable of 4K 60 FPS on the rear and I would thing at least 4K 30 FPS on the front yet it's saying most users just use 1080p. They kind of force that to be common with 1080p being the default size.
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There may be hope.
https://twitter.com/MishaalRahman/status/1187093806677680128?s=19
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There may be hope.
https://twitter.com/MishaalRahman/status/1187093806677680128?s=19
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That makes sense since HDR does need a high brightness requirement.
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I haven't really tried using it in direct sunlight yet.
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Has anyone tried the High brightness app on the pixel 4 xl yet? It might make the difference of someone purchasing the phone. I use it on the OP7 pro and it makes a huge difference.
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Has anyone tried the High brightness app on the pixel 4 xl yet? It might make the difference of someone purchasing the phone. I use it on the OP7 pro and it makes a huge difference.
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That depends if it's a Samsung panel or not
Reuben_skelz92 said:
That depends if it's a Samsung panel or not
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It's made by Samsung:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/9to5google.com/2019/10/24/pixel-4-xl-teardown-samsung-display/amp/
Hi.
I've just got my Pixel 5, coming from a Pixel 2 (non-XL).
It's very much noticeable straight away and even more so side by side...Is the Pixel 5 display a lot warmer/paler/washed out?
Greys especially are a lot lighter compared to the dark greys of my Pixel 2...colours less deep (tried both phones on Natural, Boosted and Adaptive/saturated)...it's almost like the Pixel 2 has more blue in the display maybe? It's a lot cooler and easier to look at/see things.
A great example is using the Youtube Music app...well, here's a selection of pics demonstrating...
https://imgur.com/a/xujV3zJ
The difference is really obvious on the first, second and third pictures, less obvious on red screens (pic 5), but in the last couple of pics there's major differences on the reference picture on natural or boosted setting...
Yeah I dunno if I'm just being funny and noticing the differences but...yeah it just feels really disjointed every time I look at the screen...
Thanks
p.s. when I take a screenshot on both phones the colours look mostly similar when viewed on a PC so it's definitely to do with the panel...Don't know if it's standard calibration or faulty panel but yeah...really hard to look at numerous dark mode apps because they're so...not dark. Blacks look black though.
I observed the same on my Pixel 5, I 'm coming from Pixel 2 XL. I like saturated look on my Pixel 2 XL, but now I got used to Pixel 5 colors - Adaptive color profile
gargeya_369 said:
I observed the same on my Pixel 5, I 'm coming from Pixel 2 XL. I like saturated look on my Pixel 2 XL, but now I got used to Pixel 5 colors - Adaptive color profile
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Thanks for your reply
It's really bad in some apps like Discord...makes it very difficult to look at especially when the brightness dips in low light.
Have you seen any other phones to compare to?
Since I've been using Android I've only used "pure google" devices...(Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7 2012, Nexus 5, Nexus 7 2013, Pixel 2 and Pixel 5)...even my father has a Pixel 2...so yeah I have no other experience to compare it to, especially more modern phones
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Thanks for your reply
It's really bad in some apps like Discord...makes it very difficult to look at especially when the brightness dips in low light.
Have you seen any other phones to compare to?
Since I've been using Android I've only used "pure google" devices...(Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7 2012, Nexus 5, Nexus 7 2013, Pixel 2 and Pixel 5)...even my father has a Pixel 2...so yeah I have no other experience to compare it to, especially more modern phones
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Unfortunately, I didn't get a chance to test with any other phones.
I also came from the Pixel 2 XL whose screen was ridiculously oversaturated. True, in direct comparison Pixel 5 looks "washed out" but this is much more true to life colors.
It's not the colours that bother me so much, more like the greys...
But lookibng at the XDA Pixel 5 display review, the Color temp is lower (warmer) and the Gamma is lower (lighter) which would very much explain.
6400K is just wrong for me to be honest! (and i personally prefer a higher gamma value but I'm odd like that)...
But mine being similar to the XDA review sample assumes calibration is the same across all models...I wonder!
But here with the Pixel 5’s minimum-brightness tone map curve, its 2.20 gamma power response may appear too light and washed out in dark environments.
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I definitely notice that, the display gets much worse at low brightness so it needs to be cranked up a fair bit to uncomfortable levels in dark environments...
Still, I'm gonna go check out a couple of stores to see what other examples of he Pixel 5 are like...
Been going around a few stores today comparing my Pixel 5 with the display models...
The display models definitely have slightly darker blacks...
But then a difference is I have a Spigen screen protector on mine...
How much, if at all, would a tempered glass screen protector affect things? Would they make the greys look slightly lighter/washed out? Or is it differences in the panels?