Modem hardware variants N910 list - Galaxy Note 4 General

So the modems we've seen so far is:
Qualcomm Gobi MDM9x25M / MDM9x35M (in Snapdragon models: N910F, N910G, N9106W, N9100 etc.)
MDM9x25M is CAT4/LTE-A - 28nm
MDM9x35M is CAT6/LTE-A - 20nm
Intel XMM7260 (in N910U) – CAT6/LTE-A - 28nm
Ericsson Thor M7450 (in N910C, N910H) – CAT4/LTE-A - 28nm
Samsung Exynos Shannon 303 (in korean models N910S, N910K, N910L) – CAT6/LTE-A - 20nm
Qualcomm Snapdragon 810 SoC integrated modem (MSM8994) (in N916 models) – CAT9/LTE-A - 20nm
or Samsung Exynos Shannon 333 - CAT9 (with Exynos 5433 chipset)
Initially Snapdragon 810 was planned for the new variant and now it changed to Exynos 5433 in the N916 models, but it seems both of these have been made, atleast for benchmarking/testing purposes since also the Snapdragon 810 still show up in benchmarks. (like here: http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1466645)
Added micro architecture generation for each.
Correct or complement the list if there is something inaccurate or missing in it.
About the two different Gobi modems I think the China models N9100, N9106, N9108, N9109 use 9x25m and most of the other Qualcomm Snapdragon versions use 9x35m.
The Intel modem is also a category 6 modem. The Shannon models, they are advertised as LTE-A, however while trying to find out info about the Samsungs own Shannon modems it seems Shannon300 is CAT4/LTE-A and Shannon303 supposedly CAT6/LTE-A, at least some lists it as that. Samsung Korean site for Note 4 lists it as having support for up to 225Mbps.
The new Snapdragon 810 model seems to have integrated modem unlike 805 and CAT9 support was added to the 810 SoC according to Qualcomm. Not sure if it is also implemented in the new Note 4.
CAT4 modem = up to 150Mbps down / 50Mbps up
CAT6 modem = up to 300Mbps down / 50Mbps up
CAT9 modem = up to 450Mbps down / 50Mbps up
CAT10 modem = up to 450Mbps down / 100Mbps up
LTE-A was announced a few years back and provides faster and more stable network with higher capacity than regular LTE.

JNetwork said:
As a reply to lisbon2004 about starting a modems thread I think there is some of interest in that, and also for trying to clear some of the confusion up about all the different models and what is flashable with what and which speeds they support.
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thank you for these useful info. i have a question:
are modem.bins from different regions flashable? or you have to look for a proper bin for your particular modem now?
also these info may be useful to test modems in future:
how to enter the Service Mode and Band Info ,to lock the phone to LTE-only (disabling all 2G and 3G freqs), or to LTE2600, for example.
these are all menus:
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how do get to this menu after getting into service menu

vinumsv said:
how do get to this menu after getting into service menu
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key input: Q0211214
perhaps a direct shortcut exists (via *#...) but i don't know any.
and they only work on rooted devices i think.

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key input: Q0211214
perhaps a direct shortcut exists (via *#...) but i don't know any.
and they only work on rooted devices i think.
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Thanks

so, are modem.bins from different regions flashable? or you have to look for a proper bin for your particular modem now?

What about the N910H what is the modem version? And is there a way to enable lte
Sent from my SM-N910H using XDA Free mobile app

N910H uses Ericsson M7450, same as N910C so might be possible to unlock lte on it later on unless it is some kind of hardware limitation? And use firmware/modems from N910C
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N910H uses Ericsson M7450, same as N910C so might be possible to unlock lte on it later on unless it is some kind of hardware limitation? And use firmware/modems from N910C
Atleast I think so gonna try and confirm it
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Yes please try it and give us feedback on that my friend
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Any update on 910h modem? Can we flash 910c fw with odin?

Hi i flashed sweet custom rom from 910c on my 910h now i have baseband version "test 1" under about device, i also have the lte,wcdma,3g under the network settings if i choose it i lose signal when i am in a 4g lte area

wakedmichel said:
Hi i flashed sweet custom rom from 910c on my 910h now i have baseband version "test 1" under about device, i also have the lte,wcdma,3g under the network settings if i choose it i lose signal when i am in a 4g lte area
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Thanks alot my friend for the feed back by the way did you check imei?
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sirwanesmail said:
Thanks alot my friend for the feed back by the way did you check imei?
Sent from my SM-N910H using XDA Free mobile app
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To be honest i dont know how to check imie but as far as i know if i lost imie i won't have any signal at all while i have good signal on 3g and edge.

I swaped to wanam lite rom, because i read today in sweet rom that it doesnt include the modem, but also with wanam i have trst1 under baseband. I tried to play a bit with sevice menu showed in the first post of this thread i can see the lte baseband but there is no option to change the configuration

JNetwork said:
As a reply to lisbon2004 about starting a modems thread I think there is some of interest in that, and also for trying to clear some of the confusion up about all the different models and what is flashable with what and which speeds they support.
So the modems we've seen so far is:
Qualcomm Gobi MDM9x25M / MDM9x35M (in all models with Snapdragon, N910F, N910G, N9106W, N9100 etc) - MDM9x25M is CAT4/LTE-A and MDM9x35 is CAT6/LTE-A
Intel XMM7260 (in N910U) - CAT6/LTE-A
Ericsson M7450 (in N910C) - CAT4/LTE-A
Samsung Shannon 303 (in korean models N910S, N910K, N910L) - CAT6/LTE-A
Correct or complement the list if there is something inaccurate or missing in it. Maybe add firmware list for each later on?
Should note that CAT6 is only officially advertised on the Qualcomm Snapdragon model.
About the two different Gobi modems I think the China models N9100, N9106, N9108, N9109 use 9x25m and most of the other Qualcomm Snapdragon versions use 9x35m.
The Intel modem is also a category 6 modem and I'm not sure if something else makes it not fully support cat6. However Taiwanese Samsung site lists the N910U as CAT6 so I guess it has support.
Same with the Shannon models, they are advertised as LTE-A, however while trying to find out info about the Samsungs own Shannon modems it seems Shannon300 is CAT4/LTE-A and Shannon303 supposedly CAT6/LTE-A, atleast some lists it as that. Samsung korean site for Note 4 lists it as having theoretical support for up to 225Mbps which is in between CAT4 and CAT6 standard.
CAT4 modem = up to 150Mbps
CAT6 modem = up to 300Mbps
LTE-A was announced a few years back and provides faster and more stable network with higher capacity than regular LTE. Anything above CAT3 is basically LTE-A.
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Hi JNetwork, as you can see my service mode page is different than the one in the op. Whats i am doing wrong plz?

wakedmichel said:
Hi JNetwork, as you can see my service mode page is different than the one in the op. Whats i am doing wrong plz?
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Woow! You have Automatic!
that's what i'm missing
how did you do it?
what's your 1234?

lisbon2004 said:
Woow! You have Automatic!
that's what i'm missing
how did you do it?
what's your 1234?
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I have it but i cant configure anything in there, i cant enable it or enable any band other than the one enabled by difault. I dont if i flach the 910c modem on my 910h variant will work i am afraid of bricking my device

Oops broken attachment

Modem version Test1 ??? That's not OK. you should have had simurlar code like the 1st one ore the 3rd one.
could it be that you accidentally got the device with dev firmware?
you would want to save that modem.bin just in case...

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[Q] What is KLTE?

I have been looking through the ROMs and such and trying to find something that will flash onto my AT&T SGS5, and I see a variety of references to KLTE or some variation of the acronym .
First off, what is KLTE? Is it just another way of saying 4G LTE Based phones, or is there other meaning behind it.
Second, I believe that the AT&T SGS5 is called the GM-G900A. What is the difference between the different identifiers that are all GM-G900(X). Is there only a carrier difference, or is there any hardware differences?
crimsonconcepts said:
I have been looking through the ROMs and such and trying to find something that will flash onto my AT&T SGS5, and I see a variety of references to KLTE or some variation of the acronym .
First off, what is KLTE? Is it just another way of saying 4G LTE Based phones, or is there other meaning behind it.
Second, I believe that the AT&T SGS5 is called the GM-G900A. What is the difference between the different identifiers that are all GM-G900(X). Is there only a carrier difference, or is there any hardware differences?
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KLTE is the S5 version on Qualcomm with LTE
lingowistico said:
KLTE is the S5 version on Qualcomm with LTE
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Bit mystified, isn't it? Any idea where it'd come from?
saber0091 said:
Bit mystified, isn't it? Any idea where it'd come from?
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I guess it's called KLTE because it's shorter than Qualcomm Long Term Evolution.:good:
lingowistico said:
I guess it's called KLTE because it's shorter than Qualcomm Long Term Evolution.:good:
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Well, okay, that bit makes sense. But then it would be LTE, rather than KLTE. (On top of which I've also heard reference to HLTE)
Is this just another Kang thing? (Such as AOKP versus AOSP?)
Conversely, is there a term for those SGS5 devices that are not KLTE? ("International", maybe?)
saber0091 said:
Well, okay, that bit makes sense. But then it would be LTE, rather than KLTE. (On top of which I've also heard reference to HLTE)
Is this just another Kang thing? (Such as AOKP versus AOSP?)
Conversely, is there a term for those SGS5 devices that are not KLTE? ("International", maybe?)
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The KLTE = All S5's that are based on Qualcomm's Snapdragon 801 chipset (including the "International").
K stands for Krait, which is the name of the CPU.
Afaik there is only one octa-core Exynos based model and it's called SM-G900H.
lingowistico said:
The KLTE = All S5's that are based on Qualcomm's Snapdragon 801 chipset (including the "International").
K stands for Krait, which is the name of the CPU.
Afaik there is only one octa-core Exynos based model and it's called SM-G900H.
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Awesome, been digging through 100's of pages for that answer, thank you!
stretchymantis said:
Awesome, been digging through 100's of pages for that answer, thank you!
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A small update:
klte = SM-G900F (International/European)
kltespr = klte sprint
klteusc = klte us cellular
kltevzw = klte verizon wireless
kltetm0
Tmobile
Hey dudes, I have a quiestion, as I known the SGS5 g900h is not a LTE (4G) device, What happen if I install a rom g900..KLTE from a post that says rom for g900..KLTE devices, will exist any problems, or if I Missunderstood something please could you explain me, Thanks, Have a good day guys
hello I have a galaxy s5 sm-g900a vercion and wanted to set you cyanogenmod but not that vercion is for my phone (I'm from Latin America )
Thanks for your quick reply maybe they'll build for the vzw. Not a lot of roms and kernels available bought mine cheap only after I got online and saw the one I was buying was unlockable. Sorry for being off topic and for asking what many consider stupid questions I just haven't researched my s5 like I did my dead store dx for that matter.
This rom is sounding good. Can you long press back to kill?
Sent from kltevzw thanks dev's ! ?
lingowistico said:
A small update:
klte = SM-G900F (International/European)
kltespr = klte sprint
klteusc = klte us cellular
kltevzw = klte verizon wireless
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But which one for the AT&T Samsung Galaxy S5

[Bounty] Galaxy Note 9 Snapdragon Bootloader Unlock

I create a gofundme in the hopes to encourage a dev to find a way to unlock the bootloader on the note 9 Snapdragon
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Not...gonna...happen
This is impossible without Samsung's signatures that's used when creating their proprietary firmware, including bootloaders. And this has NEVER been leaked or otherwise been made available to the public and never will be. Once a locked bootloader is flashed onto the phone at the factory, it is impossible to flash unofficial firmware, recoveries or bootloaders. Only official firmware with correct signatures can be flashed. If this was doable, there's lots of capable people out there who would have already been on top of this. The only thing that might help would be a leaked engineering firmware which is official but not fully functional and most likely wouldn't be unlocked anyway. Going off past experience with the leaked engineering bootloaders and kernels. which where problematic for daily use. I hope this helps you understand a bit more about this topic.
Unfortunately SOL....
Thank you for your explanation tx. Then our only shred of hope is a leaked firmware. Disappointing when you pay that much money and you get a locked bootloader, I which they had a dev version like HTC does sometimes
anasrocks said:
Thank you for your explanation tx. Then our only shred of hope is a leaked firmware. Disappointing when you pay that much money and you get a locked bootloader, I which they had a dev version like HTC does sometimes
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It's not disappointing though. You buy it knowing it's a locked bootloader.
You want to unlock the bootloader? By a N960F or a N9600.
I believe the lte bands are weaker on those models compared to the US version, at least that's what I saw on frequency check website. Correct me if I am wrong
anasrocks said:
I believe the lte bands are weaker on those models compared to the US version, at least that's what I saw on frequency check website. Correct me if I am wrong
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I honestly have no idea. If you do some searching here, there's plenty of discussion of using the N960F and the N9600 on US carriers.
1st phone ive had where im not worried bout it being locked especially since im able to flash the u1 firmware which gets rid of all the carrier bloat..i dont need wifi calling or video calling.
MrDSL said:
1st phone ive had where im not worried bout it being locked especially since im able to flash the u1 firmware which gets rid of all the carrier bloat..i dont need wifi calling or video calling.
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Yup, last phone I unlocked the bootloader on was the S7 Edge Exynos. Well I bought it used and the bootloader was already unlocked. From there I switched back to Nexus 6P, then Pixel XL. Didn't unlock on either of those. Since then I've had an S8+, Note 8, Pixel 2XL, and now the Note 9. Didn't even care about bootloaders on any of them.
And WiFi calling works on T-Mo with the U1 firmware as does VoLTE. I use Google Voice and Hangouts, so video calling from the stock dialer doesn't work for me anyway.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Yup, last phone I unlocked the bootloader on was the S7 Edge Exynos. Well I bought it used and the bootloader was already unlocked. From there I switched back to Nexus 6P, then Pixel XL. Didn't unlock on either of those. Since then I've had an S8+, Note 8, Pixel 2XL, and now the Note 9. Didn't even care about bootloaders on any of them.
And WiFi calling works on T-Mo with the U1 firmware as does VoLTE. I use Google Voice and Hangouts, so video calling from the stock dialer doesn't work for me anyway.
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I still had my 6P hehe...i dont even like talking on the phone let alone video lol
Honestly the only thing I miss now with having a non-rooted phone is the ability to do full app backups. It kills me, in this day and age, that there is no way in Android to backup/restore all app data. Everything else about rooting for me was about fixing issues (battery, interface, tethering etc), which are all kinda non-issues now. Would be nice to completely uninstall apps, but disabling them works too.
I'm also not going to buy the inferior Exynox just so i can root it to make it slightly better, but less great, than the Snapdragon variant. Rooting also kills a lot of features and apps.
My $0.02
MrDSL said:
1st phone ive had where im not worried bout it being locked especially since im able to flash the u1 firmware which gets rid of all the carrier bloat..i dont need wifi calling or video calling.
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I have the U1 and it has WiFi calling. Is it different if you have to flash it?
chetly968 said:
I have the U1 and it has WiFi calling. Is it different if you have to flash it?
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It's not available for all carriers in the U1 firmware. As far as I know, only T-Mo supports WiFi calling on the U1.
Mr. Orange 645 said:
It's not available for all carriers in the U1 firmware. As far as I know, only T-Mo supports WiFi calling on the U1.
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Does the stock dialer not work with US carriers when using the U1 firmware?
chetly968 said:
I have the U1 and it has WiFi calling. Is it different if you have to flash it?
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with at&t? i think its because it doesnt have the at&t stuff for wifi calling and video
ogretech said:
Does the stock dialer not work with US carriers when using the U1 firmware?
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Yes it uses the stock dialer, but it doesn't support video calling or VoLTE. If you have T-Mo it DOES support WiFi calling and VoLTE, but not video calling.
Am I missing something? Isn't this thread about installing a custom recovery and unlocking a Snapdragon Note 9?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ecovery-twrp-galaxy-note9-snapdragon-t3845536
robsmith11 said:
Am I missing something? Isn't this thread about installing a custom recovery and unlocking a Snapdragon Note 9?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...ecovery-twrp-galaxy-note9-snapdragon-t3845536
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You're missing that it's for the 9600, which is a Snapdragon, not the 960U. Samsung allows the 9600 to be bootloader unlocked. They don't allow rhr 960U to be bootloader unlocked.
Stupid question , but ...
How did i know, is my boot-]loader locked or not ?
Look at attached picture.
Is any of this records can tell me that ?
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Question Global Version AT&T After 3G Shutdown

I see the global version supports wifi calling and VOLTE and has as much band support as my Huawei P30 Pro so the coverage should be fine but will this phone actually work on AT&T after the 3g shutdown? I've read forums where people "call" *#somenumbers*#" and it lets them turn on VOLTE without the carrier checking compatibility. Any advice or input would be great. I really hate iPhones and Samsungs which seems to be all US carriers want to support.
pseriesjim said:
I see the global version supports wifi calling and VOLTE and has as much band support as my Huawei P30 Pro so the coverage should be fine but will this phone actually work on AT&T after the 3g shutdown? I've read forums where people "call" *#somenumbers*#" and it lets them turn on VOLTE without the carrier checking compatibility. Any advice or input would be great. I really hate iPhones and Samsungs which seems to be all US carriers want to support.
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I'm on Tmobile works perfectly on 4G LTE. 3G isn't an issue as that only applies to phones that rely on 3G data and Yes, VoLTE works!
That's good to know because ATT is basically trying to force me to buy one of maybe 3 phones. I wish I could keep my P30 Pro but I cant seem to get the update that enables VOLTE so I need a new phone and this seems much nicer then the new Samsung.
pseriesjim said:
That's good to know because ATT is basically trying to force me to buy one of maybe 3 phones. I wish I could keep my P30 Pro but I cant seem to get the update that enables VOLTE so I need a new phone and this seems much nicer then the new Samsung.
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Just have to know the phone dialer codes and your phone will run both VoLTE and VoWiFi. Just do a Google search for them.
jim262 said:
Just have to know the phone dialer codes and your phone will run both VoLTE and VoWiFi. Just do a Google search for them.
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I tried that already, I don't see any codes to unlock the options on my phone. I think the APN is part of the problem. I was told to use NXTGENPHONE. Further research shows that ATT doesn't allow any thing they don't approve to use VoLTE or VoWiFi regardless if the phone has the feature. Unless you know a sneaky way around this, I suspect the Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra won't work either.
pseriesjim said:
I tried that already, I don't see any codes to unlock the options on my phone. I think the APN is part of the problem. I was told to use NXTGENPHONE.
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Here are the code for xiaomi:
VoLTE *#*#86583#*#*
VoWiFi/WLAN *#*#869434#*#*
jim262 said:
Here are the code for xiaomi:
VoLTE *#*#86583#*#*
VoWiFi/WLAN *#*#869434#*#*
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Those codes bypass ATT verifying the phone and enable the features?
pseriesjim said:
Those codes bypass ATT verifying the phone and enable the features?
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Yes. That's what they do for all carriers, I believe.
jim262 said:
Yes. That's what they do for all carriers, I believe.
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I just want to confirm that you have the global rom version and not the Chinese rom. I'd hate to spend $1,000 on a phone that only works for 6 months
I bought the Chinese version and have tried all roms, but settled on the rom from Xiaomi.eu as there are far more features and less bloat. BTW, the Chinese variant now sells for around $900 from Giztop for the base model. I bought my 12/256 for $1045 when it was first released. I heard the Global variant was selling as high as $1300. Considerable savings going with the China variant, waiting a week, unlocking the bootloader and flashing another rom.
jim262 said:
I bought the Chinese version and have tried all roms, but settled on the rom from Xiaomi.eu as there are far more features and less bloat. BTW, the Chinese variant now sells for around $900 from Giztop for the base model. I bought my 12/256 for $1045 when it was first released. I heard the Global variant was selling as high as $1300. Considerable savings going with the China variant, waiting a week, unlocking the bootloader and flashing another rom.
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I've been reading that having the Chinese version causes issues with AT&T specifically and no one can seem to confirm that having either rom will work with ATT after the 3g shutdown. My current phone, the Huawei p30 Pro is the global version that had the most ATT frequencies of the p30 series but apparently the only version that doesn't have VOLTE. I just don't want to spend $1,000 on a new phone that has no guarantee of working after the shutdown or even on the 5g network. According to the frequency lists online, the Chinese version doesn't support ATT 5g. Is there any difference in hardware between the global and Chinese variant or is the only difference the ROM installed on it? Meaning does the rom determine the frequencies supported?
pseriesjim said:
I've been reading that having the Chinese version causes issues with AT&T specifically and no one can seem to confirm that having either rom will work with ATT after the 3g shutdown. My current phone, the Huawei p30 Pro is the global version that had the most ATT frequencies of the p30 series but apparently the only version that doesn't have VOLTE. I just don't want to spend $1,000 on a new phone that has no guarantee of working after the shutdown or even on the 5g network. According to the frequency lists online, the Chinese version doesn't support ATT 5g. Is there any difference in hardware between the global and Chinese variant or is the only difference the ROM installed on it? Meaning does the rom determine the frequencies supported?
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The hardware on the Chinese version and the Global are exactly the same. If you wish to spend more money, go right ahead. But I would buy the Chinese variant, wait a week, unlock the bootloader and flash to global rom.
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The hardware on the Chinese version and the Global are exactly the same. If you wish to spend more money, go right ahead. But I would buy the Chinese variant, wait a week, unlock the bootloader and flash to global rom.
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Saving money is what I'm all about. Do you know of a guide to flashing the rom? I've never used twrp or any of that sort of software. Any guides on this phone specifically would be great.
So I found a YouTube video that seems pretty straight forward:
After you flashed the new rom does your phone auto update? Can you go to settings and get updates through the GUI or do you manually have to connect it to the PC and flash it each time ?
pseriesjim said:
Saving money is what I'm all about. Do you know of a guide to flashing the rom? I've never used twrp or any of that sort of software. Any guides on this phone specifically would be great.
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The guides are for stock on the Xiaomi site and for the custom rom Xiaomi.eu or on this website. Just got to look.
pseriesjim said:
So I found a YouTube video that seems pretty straight forward:
After you flashed the new rom does your phone auto update? Can you go to settings and get updates through the GUI or do you manually have to connect it to the PC and flash it each time ?
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YES, it recieves OTAs
Here's the link for the Xiaomi stock roms. https://c.mi.com//miuidownload/detail?device=1900395
Here is the info for the Xiaomi.eu rom: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...mi-eu-rom-for-xiaomi-mi-11-pro-ultra.4260617/
I decided not to buy the phone after speaking with a few people from AT&T. They informed me that the way AT&T will be deploying the mandatory VOLTE would render the phone useless based on their encryption. Because the phone is not white listed they will not send the required encryption to the phone so VOLTE would not activate after the 3G shutdown and if it somehow was activated before, they would deactivate it on the shutdown date. It is really proving that living here in the US is not a great as it once was. We are now being forced to pick 1 of 3 phone companies. Apple, Samsung or the google Pixel. I assume since they paid the most in back end deals. All of which I hate. Looks like
I'll be hacking/rooting a Samsung. If anyone knows of a theme to make a Samsung look like a Huawei, please post it here. Very disappointed to lose my IR blaster and all the better various hardware that these overseas phones have to offer. Uncle Sam said no.
pseriesjim said:
I decided not to buy the phone after speaking with a few people from AT&T. They informed me that the way AT&T will be deploying the mandatory VOLTE would render the phone useless based on their encryption. Because the phone is not white listed they will not send the required encryption to the phone so VOLTE would not activate after the 3G shutdown and if it somehow was activated before, they would deactivate it on the shutdown date. It is really proving that living here in the US is not a great as it once was. We are now being forced to pick 1 of 3 phone companies. Apple, Samsung or the google Pixel. I assume since they paid the most in back end deals. All of which I hate. Looks like
I'll be hacking/rooting a Samsung. If anyone knows of a theme to make a Samsung look like a Huawei, please post it here. Very disappointed to lose my IR blaster and all the better various hardware that these overseas phones have to offer. Uncle Sam said no.
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FIrst of all, I would switch networks. No question on that one, as they are trying to force you to buy the phones that they sell. Also, if you are using a Snapdragon variant of a Samsung used in the United States, you will not be able to unlock the bootloader and/or root it. That is only possible on the exynos variants, which are probably not whitelisted on AT&T.

SM-T710 vs SM-T713?

Hi everyone,
Can anyone please tell me the difference (if any) between the SM-T710 and SM-T713 models of the Galaxy Tab S2?
I only ask as I've seen some ROMs with the SM-T710 listed as a compatible device but the SM-T713 not listed. I've entered the model numbers into the search tool on XDA but haven't yet found any info discerning one from the other.
I tried GSM Arena website and all it shows me is that a 713 exists, but not the differences between them.
Basically, the opportunity to buy one has come up, but I want to make sure I get one that'll have better custom ROM support. So far that's looking like the 710, but will 710 compatible ROMs not work with (or possibly even damage/brick) a 713?
I'm sorry if this question has been asked before.
Thanks!!
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Hi everyone,
Can anyone please tell me the difference (if any) between the SM-T710 and SM-T713 models of the Galaxy Tab S2?
I only ask as I've seen some ROMs with the SM-T710 listed as a compatible device but the SM-T713 not listed. I've entered the model numbers into the search tool on XDA but haven't yet found any info discerning one from the other.
I tried GSM Arena website and all it shows me is that a 713 exists, but not the differences between them.
Basically, the opportunity to buy one has come up, but I want to make sure I get one that'll have better custom ROM support. So far that's looking like the 710, but will 710 compatible ROMs not work with (or possibly even damage/brick) a 713?
I'm sorry if this question has been asked before.
Thanks!!
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The T713 uses a Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 SoC, which supports the G3/G4/LTE radio for mobile network connection.
The T710 has a Samsung Exynos SoC.
They have similar CPU specs, but different peripherals (the radio modem stuff, different GPU, etc.)
Hope this helps.

General Variants of the 10 Pro, Clearing up some confusion.

There have been some confusing discussions all over the internet from this forum to OnePlus' forum on what ROM and hardware variant is used where. The simple answer is that Oneplus uses different hardware for different regions and the ROM is not necessarily tied to the hardware. OnePlus is using hardware variants that will work best outside of it's designed region and putting a generic ROM over it.
To clear things up I've made a cheat sheet with the main specifications between and across all the variants. I understand that it may not be complete, but it should help a lot of people understand what they are getting with each variant. I've also attached a PDF for easy copying and pasting.
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mine is a NE2210 , but it came preloaded with NE2211 , the hardware is same and it has Oxygen OS , which is good .. but so from now onwards i will be following guides meant for NE2211\?
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mine is a NE2210 , but it came preloaded with NE2211 , the hardware is same and it has Oxygen OS , which is good .. but so from now onwards i will be following guides meant for NE2211\?
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I'd treat it as such, really the biggest difference is the OS. Technically all the phones are the exact same hardware (except for Ram and storage sizes) and you should be able to cross flash if a full factory rom is released.
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I'd treat it as such, really the biggest difference is the OS. Technically all the phones are the exact same hardware (except for Ram and storage sizes) and you should be able to cross flash if a full factory rom is released.
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This is a fascinating and most helpful discussion - but I am CONFUSED. In your earlier post you wrote "The simple answer is that Oneplus uses different hardware for different regions and the ROM is not necessarily tied to the hardware." but now you say that all the phones are the exact same hardware? Which statement is correct?
Thanks for clearing up yet another confusion!
Does that mean that NE2210 has different physical hardware than NE2215, or is it just a software limitation? For e.g. if you flash NE2210 with NE2213 OOS rom the missing 4g/5g bands will not magically become enabled?
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There have been some confusing discussions all over the internet from this forum to OnePlus' forum on what ROM and hardware variant is used where. The simple answer is that Oneplus uses different hardware for different regions and the ROM is not necessarily tied to the hardware. OnePlus is using hardware variants that will work best outside of it's designed region and putting a generic ROM over it.
To clear things up I've made a cheat sheet with the main specifications between and across all the variants. I understand that it may not be complete, but it should help a lot of people understand what they are getting with each variant. I've also attached a PDF for easy copying and pasting.
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This is such a useful document - thank you very much for this fine work! You must know these phones in great detail.
Can you please enlighten me... Is the OnePlus 10 Pro hardware the same for all versions, i.e. - if we flash an EU ROM onto the NE2210, will the phone have the same bands as an original NE2213 version? Will Android Auto work - even though it hasn't been preinstalled by the phone manufacturer? (This is the error message I get when I try to run Android Auto on the NE2210.)
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This is such a useful document - thank you very much for this fine work! You must know these phones in great detail.
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I use a NE2215 daily, but other than that I just looked it up on the internet.
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Can you please enlighten me... Is the OnePlus 10 Pro hardware the same for all versions, i.e. - if we flash an EU ROM onto the NE2210, will the phone have the same bands as an original NE2213 version? Will Android Auto work - even though it hasn't been preinstalled by the phone manufacturer? (This is the error message I get when I try to run Android Auto on the NE2210.)
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I think so due to the fact that people have said they have NE2213 ROM on an NE2210 phone. Also when I looked at the SIM slot of my NE2215 it has 2 sets of contacts even though it's sold as a single sim phone. Lastly I rooted my NE2215 phone by booting a rooted NE2213 boot.img.
Thank you for your comments. Fascinating comment, esp. about your discovery of the 2 sets of contacts!
I have never rooted or used Fastboot on a phone, but feel that I need to in this case. I got my NE2210 while in Europe (I upgraded from an 8T). Used it in various countries without real problems (except for phone and messaging apps - which I could not replace with the Google apps, and some Chinese bloatware, which I uninstalled or at least force-stopped). Next, I traveled to the U.S. That's when the problems began. The NE2210 would not connect to any Mobile Network (I am using Google Fi but also have an Asian SIM card - neither would connect.)
I love the camera and speed of the phone and even the Color O/S is fine.
I then realized that Android Auto does not work - "because it had not been pre-installed by the phone manufacturer."
Please let me ask you one more question: On the Internet, there are numerous instructions on how to flash the NE2113 ROM - have you seen step-by-step instructions that are complete and airtight (for a beginner)? I'll be happy to share my experiences once I have made them!
TY!
ralphhayes said:
Thank you for your comments. Fascinating comment, esp. about your discovery of the 2 sets of contacts!
I have never rooted or used Fastboot on a phone, but feel that I need to in this case. I got my NE2210 while in Europe (I upgraded from an 8T). Used it in various countries without real problems (except for phone and messaging apps - which I could not replace with the Google apps, and some Chinese bloatware, which I uninstalled or at least force-stopped). Next, I traveled to the U.S. That's when the problems began. The NE2210 would not connect to any Mobile Network (I am using Google Fi but also have an Asian SIM card - neither would connect.)
I love the camera and speed of the phone and even the Color O/S is fine.
I then realized that Android Auto does not work - "because it had not been pre-installed by the phone manufacturer."
Please let me ask you one more question: On the Internet, there are numerous instructions on how to flash the NE2113 ROM - have you seen step-by-step instructions that are complete and airtight (for a beginner)? I'll be happy to share my experiences once I have made them!
TY!
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I have an NE2210 that I bought off Amazon and when it came in, it was flashed with Oxygen OS NE2215 ROM. I'm currently using it with Google Fi and seems to work great in my area so you should be able to get yours to work stateside. The only thing I'm not certain of yet is if 5g band 71 is activated since it's on a NE2215 ROM or if that band will not work at all due to hardware limitations. Earlier posts in this thread seem to allude to that it does work because the hardware is the same, however I've seen other threads that indicate the US version definitely has different hardware. I can tell you that my phone has indicated 5g before but that may only be the 41 band. I'm going to install signal spy to try and confirm if I'm ever on band 71.
Edit: Oh, and my Android auto does work. However, the seller indicated that the ne2215 ROM was flashed by OnePlus themselves. Not sure if that's true or not.
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I have an NE2210 that I bought off Amazon and when it came in, it was flashed with Oxygen OS NE2215 ROM. I'm currently using it with Google Fi and seems to work great in my area so you should be able to get yours to work stateside. The only thing I'm not certain of yet is if 5g band 71 is activated since it's on a NE2215 ROM or if that band will not work at all due to hardware limitations. Earlier posts in this thread seem to allude to that it does work because the hardware is the same, however I've seen other threads that indicate the US version definitely has different hardware. I can tell you that my phone has indicated 5g before but that may only be the 41 band. I'm going to install signal spy to try and confirm if I'm ever on band 71.
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Am actually wondering this myself. I've seen a few posts of NE2215 devices getting better signal when cross flashed with NE2213 because 2213 has a few more 5G Bands enabled.. I would definitely be interested in this if cross flashing could open up more bands... if the hardware truly is the same.
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The only thing I'm not certain of yet is if 5g band 71 is activated since it's on a NE2215 ROM
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It does, as T-Mobile uses B71 for NR 5G and the NE2215 is sold by them.
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It does, as T-Mobile uses B71 for NR 5G and the NE2215 is sold by them.
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But my variant is actually a NE2210 (Chinese) which has NE2215 ROM flashed to it (supposedly from factory). Are you saying that you have proof the hardware is the same between the two and by simply flashing the NE2215 ROM on a NE2210 device will activate the use of 5g band 71?
so NE2213 supports tmobile volte and wifi calling?
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Am actually wondering this myself. I've seen a few posts of NE2215 devices getting better signal when cross flashed with NE2213 because 2213 has a few more 5G Bands enabled.. I would definitely be interested in this if cross flashing could open up more bands... if the hardware truly is the same.
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So update: Over the weekend, I've noticed my phone on 5g three different times. All three times I was on band 41. Still no luck at catching it on 71. The theory of flashing ROMs to activate bands isn't looking good so far but I'm going to keep trying.
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so NE2213 supports tmobile volte and wifi calling?
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I have both VoLTE and VoWiFi working on stock NE2215. I've heard NE2213 works just the same, but sometimes better due to having a couple extra 5G bands. But @RS7JR seems to be seeing something different with actual tests.
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I have both VoLTE and VoWiFi working on stock NE2215. I've heard NE2213 works just the same, but sometimes better due to having a couple extra 5G bands. But @RS7JR seems to be seeing something different with actual tests.
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I don't think my tests prove that VoLTE and VoWifi don't work. I don't have t-mobile but I do have Google Fi and my WiFi calling does work which I'm pretty sure is the same as t mobile VoWifi. Not sure about VoLTE though. The only thing my tests have proven so far is that flashing ROMs from other variants doesn't unlock the use of more frequency bands in the radio. And in my particular case, specifically 5g band 71. Keep in mind, I've only had 3 opportunities to test it so take my info with a grain of salt. I'll still be doing more testing for the next couple weeks.
I just got NE2213 in the US on Tmobile and volte, wifi calling and all bands are working
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I just got NE2213 in the US on Tmobile and volte, wifi calling and all bands are working
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Is there any chance for you to try out any other carriers, Verizon or MVNOs like visible/us mobile?
jllll said:
Is there any chance for you to try out any other carriers, Verizon or MVNOs like visible/us mobile?
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sorry i only have tmobile
From what I can tell, 5G is not working in Canada. I believe that, in order for 5G to work, the device has to be certified for use on Canadian carriers' 5G service, and that doesn't seem to be the case for the OnePlus 10 Pro. Otherwise, everything else seems to work perfectly. However, it's also my understanding that 5G connectivity did work on the OnePlus 9 (also the OnePlus8???), so not having it work on the OnePlus 10 Pro is very confusing. Personally, I don't care if I can't access 5G. It has no "REAL" benefit for me, so I can live with it. I'm just curious as to why the OP10P is blocked from 5G access.

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