[Q] Remove TWRP and Android? - 7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am getting ready to sell my kindle fire hd in December. It has been a great device to have for 3 years but I need money to buy the Nvidia Shield Tablet. I loved to have android on it but it's getting kind of buggy. Anyway, I need to remove TWRP recovery and android and go back to the stock OS.
Any advice?
Thanks in advance! ?

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[Q] Android 4.1 on Kindle Fire - Going back to Fire

Hi all
I'm toying with installing Android 4.1 on my new Kindle Fire (non HD) so that I can get access to all the bits that I have my Android phone. The only thing I'll lose is access to LoveFilm but that's not a biggy.
However, is it possible to go back to the Kindle Fire OS if I don't like using Android on it? I can find several 4.1 installations but I can't find any Kindle Fire OS installs to apply so I'm wondering whether it's possible to remove Android 4.1 and put the factory OS back again later on.
Any ideas?
Olly
oliverm said:
Hi all
I'm toying with installing Android 4.1 on my new Kindle Fire (non HD) so that I can get access to all the bits that I have my Android phone. The only thing I'll lose is access to LoveFilm but that's not a biggy.
However, is it possible to go back to the Kindle Fire OS if I don't like using Android on it? I can find several 4.1 installations but I can't find any Kindle Fire OS installs to apply so I'm wondering whether it's possible to remove Android 4.1 and put the factory OS back again later on.
Any ideas?
Olly
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If it is a new KF, I'm not sure where you've found these installs of 4.1 but I do't think they are for the new model. The bootloader was just recently cracked and CWM and CM10 are in the early stages of being ported to the new KF's, mainly the 8.9. There are definitely no stable versions yet. Using any roms,tools,recovery, utilities, etc... meant for old model kindles will definitely brick your device. Check out the development section for progress. For now though rooting, installing play store and custom launcher will give you a good android feel without compromising performance and stability. Nova and Apex launchers are based off ics/jb interface.
Kindle Fire vs Kindle Fire 2
oliverm said:
Hi all
I'm toying with installing Android 4.1 on my new Kindle Fire (non HD) so that I can get access to all the bits that I have my Android phone. The only thing I'll lose is access to LoveFilm but that's not a biggy.
However, is it possible to go back to the Kindle Fire OS if I don't like using Android on it? I can find several 4.1 installations but I can't find any Kindle Fire OS installs to apply so I'm wondering whether it's possible to remove Android 4.1 and put the factory OS back again later on.
Any ideas?
Olly
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Oliver,
Can you go into the Menu, Other, Device, About
What is the Software Version? If it is 10.2.3 or 10.2.2 you have the new Kindle Fire 2
and not the old Kindle Fire. Having said this, you do not have any Bootloader options
or at least any stable ones, this Android 4.1.2 is Out on the Kindle Fire 2. Onemeila
is correct, most of the development (Custom ROM) is focused around the Kindle
Fire HD 8.9" not the Kindle Fire 2 7". This is not to say we will never see a Custom
ROM, it is to say, we are a long ways away.

7.4.9 never been rooted ... how can I root it now?

I have a Kindle Fire HD that has never been rooted (although I tried like heck last night when it was 7.4.8) and today I see it is 7.4.9 and have been told this is unrootable? Is this correct?
If so, is there anyway to add the Google Play store without rooting. I bought this on eBay listed as unable to be registered but I didn't care because I didn't want the Fire OS, my plan was to make it a full fledged android tablet with a custom ROM.
What can I do now?
GameGuru41 said:
I have a Kindle Fire HD that has never been rooted (although I tried like heck last night when it was 7.4.8) and today I see it is 7.4.9 and have been told this is unrootable? Is this correct?
If so, is there anyway to add the Google Play store without rooting. I bought this on eBay listed as unable to be registered but I didn't care because I didn't want the Fire OS, my plan was to make it a full fledged android tablet with a custom ROM.
What can I do now?
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Fastboot with a fastboot cable or maybe a "adb reboot bootloader" if you get lucky, then downgrade the os with kindle fire first aid, proceed with the usual procedure.
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Ok I ordered a fast boot factory cable today. Do I have to downgrade or can I just use the cable install a custom ROM?
GameGuru41 said:
Ok I ordered a fast boot factory cable today. Do I have to downgrade or can I just use the cable install a custom ROM?
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I just flashed my 7.4.9 KFHD 2012 with CM11 - I used the tutorial on the CM wiki...Worked perfectly.
medeman said:
I just flashed my 7.4.9 KFHD 2012 with CM11 - I used the tutorial on the CM wiki...Worked perfectly.
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Did you first root your device? Did you use a fastbootcable?
Thx in common
Even though this says for the 2013 version of the Kindle Fire HD, it does work on the the HD 7 running 7.4.9. It is how I rooted mine. You will have to manually install SuperSu which you can get from Chainfire's site.
medeman said:
I just flashed my 7.4.9 KFHD 2012 with CM11 - I used the tutorial on the CM wiki...Worked perfectly.
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Im trying that tonight on a kfhd 8.9 with the 8.4.9 Hoping i can get in to go to fastboot. If i can not get this going soon i may fix it permanently using the microwave technique (as in putting the kinlde fire in a 1000watt microwave oven for 10 minutes and cooking it...)
If it comes down to this maybe ill record it for all to see haha.
Stupid amazon and their forcing us in to the x.4.9 update. This should not be legal for any company to do period. Would be like a auto maker sneaking in to your driveway and removing your performance enhancing upgrades and using a welding torch to put their factory garbage back on. And yes it is the same idea. We all root or kindles and other android devices (and apple products) to give us a better performing and or more feture rich device. Those who do this understand this voids the warranty and are not worried about that at all. Heck many of us own tablets etc that are long out of warranty so amazon etc will not even need to worry about that side of thing.
Sorry for the venting but yeesh this is irritating
$yr0 said:
Did you first root your device? Did you use a fastbootcable?
Thx in common
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No my device wasn't rooted and barely used at all at this point.
I did use a fastboot cable, yeah...
I also have 7.4.9 and rooted it with Root with Restore by Bin4ary, using Option 1, via ADB. Worked just as it did with previous OS.
KFFirstAide didn't root it.
What did you try to root it with?
Issue with rooting 7.4.9
I tried using the root with recovery binary to root my kindle fire hd, but it won't run fireflash, and busy box was not included when it rooted. Am I missing something here? It's a Kindle Fire HD 7", running 7.4.9.
Downgrade it with SRT or kffa, it will be pre-rooted. You may need a fastboot cable to do this though if "adb reboot bootloader" doesn't do the trick.

Freshly rooted Fire 7 w/ nexus android 5.1.1 Am I safe from Amazon updates

Like the title says, I recently rooted my Fire 7 I got last week from Amazon prime day with the Nexus rom. I have just a few questions.
I should be safe from Amazon firmware updates since I'm not running their version of Android correct? (Amazon won't recognize my tablet and push an update)
If I decide I don't like this particular ROM can I still switch to CM12.1?
Lastly,
If I decide I need to return the tablet to stock, can just side load an old 5.1.2 amazon.bin file?
Any advice on apps that make a rooted fire great? Whats the purpose of Nova Launcher?
mmar141 said:
Like the title says, I recently rooted my Fire 7 I got last week from Amazon prime day with the Nexus rom. I have just a few questions.
I should be safe from Amazon firmware updates since I'm not running their version of Android correct? (Amazon won't recognize my tablet and push an update)
If I decide I don't like this particular ROM can I still switch to CM12.1?
Lastly,
If I decide I need to return the tablet to stock, can just side load an old 5.1.2 amazon.bin file?
Any advice on apps that make a rooted fire great? Whats the purpose of Nova Launcher?
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- Amazon can not push an update w/o FireOS
- You can switch to a different rom at anytime
- Sideloading 5.1.2 will return your device to "stock"
Thanks! This answers all my questions.

Out of the box Firmware

Did anyone's amazon fire tablet 7 come with 5.3.1 out of the box? What version did it come with? I am planning to buy one soon and I was wondering if anyone has bought one that had lower firmware on it? Thanks a lot!!
cyberdude020 said:
Did anyone's amazon fire tablet 7 come with 5.3.1 out of the box? What version did it come with? I am planning to buy one soon and I was wondering if anyone has bought one that had lower firmware on it? Thanks a lot!!
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Based on self reporting the general trend seems to be 5.3.1 but you might receive any version depending on what the shipping warehouse has in stock. If you are seeking an older build (presumably 5.1.4 or lower) your best bet is a local retailer where you can check it out in the store before committing to a purchase. Turnover is often slower so better chance of scoring a 'dated' device.
Ok so my gf bought a Kindle fire for my birthday next month because I thought buy it sooner and it's more likely to have the firmware I want. I just opened it up to check the firmware before packing it away and fortunately it came with 5.1.3 out of the box. I didn't dare connect it to WiFi incase it updated lol. Just incase anyone is interested I bought this from Argos (UK) now I just need to figure out if I can downgrade and install a custom android ROM or just stick with fire OS and root. Fun times ahead
cyberdude020 said:
Ok so my gf bought a Kindle fire for my birthday next month because I thought buy it sooner and it's more likely to have the firmware I want. I just opened it up to check the firmware before packing it away and fortunately it came with 5.1.3 out of the box. I didn't dare connect it to WiFi incase it updated lol. Just incase anyone is interested I bought this from Argos (UK) now I just need to figure out if I can downgrade and install a custom android ROM or just stick with fire OS and root. Fun times ahead
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5.1.3 can be rolled back to 5.1.2 which is fully rootable. From there you can flash several custom roms. See forum index for detailed procedures.
Davey126 said:
5.1.3 can be rolled back to 5.1.2 which is fully rootable. From there you can flash several custom roms. See forum index for detailed procedures.
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Thanks, I looked into it. I just wasn't sure about using flashfire with 5.1.2 because I read before you can't get supersu on 5.1.2 only kingroot. Now I see there's a way to get supersu Can't wait for my birthday now, I feel like a kid again haha.
One question I haven't found the answer to yet which you might be able to answer for me. Well actually two Does the stock recovery have a backup feature like TWRP does? So if I mess up installing something and get a boot loop for example I can just recover the ROM and will that work with backing up an android ROM?
The second question is if I install android and something messes up can I just recover back to fire os by just installing the 5.1.2 .bin file? I've not looked at the stock recovery so I haven't seen the features or how exactly it works.
Thanks again for your help
cyberdude020 said:
Thanks, I looked into it. I just wasn't sure about using flashfire with 5.1.2 because I read before you can't get supersu on 5.1.2 only kingroot. Now I see there's a way to get supersu Can't wait for my birthday now, I feel like a kid again haha.
One question I haven't found the answer to yet which you might be able to answer for me. Well actually two Does the stock recovery have a backup feature like TWRP does? So if I mess up installing something and get a boot loop for example I can just recover the ROM and will that work with backing up an android ROM?
The second question is if I install android and something messes up can I just recover back to fire os by just installing the 5.1.2 .bin file? I've not looked at the stock recovery so I haven't seen the features or how exactly it works.
Thanks again for your help
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- stock recovery offers no backup/restore capability (thanks, Amazon)
- FlashFire does offer this feature along with an experimental restore from fastboot; read docs carefully to understand capabilities/limitations
- 3rd party backup tool offers best option to protect against personal data loss
- FireOS can be restored via stock recovery; be sure to use 5.1.2 bin; anything lower will brick device
Davey126 said:
- stock recovery offers no backup/restore capability (thanks, Amazon)
- FlashFire does offer this feature along with an experimental restore from fastboot; read docs carefully to understand capabilities/limitations
- 3rd party backup tool offers best option to protect against personal data loss
- FireOS can be restored via stock recovery; be sure to use 5.1.2 bin; anything lower will brick device
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OK cool thanks a lot, it's all making much more sense now, it a bit daunting at first as all my flashing experience is through TWRP which is much easier While I'm picking your brain though, one more question. Is there a way to backup the android ROM? Or if I get into a boot loop I have to restore 5.1.2 and then reinstall android again?
I'm feeling much more comfortable doing this now though knowing even if I completely mess up the rooting or installing android I can just restore the 5.1.2 firmware. For £50 this thing is a steal.
cyberdude020 said:
OK cool thanks a lot, it's all making much more sense now, it a bit daunting at first as all my flashing experience is through TWRP which is much easier While I'm picking your brain though, one more question. Is there a way to backup the android ROM? Or if I get into a boot loop I have to restore 5.1.2 and then reinstall android again?
I'm feeling much more comfortable doing this now though knowing even if I completely mess up the rooting or installing android I can just restore the 5.1.2 firmware. For £50 this thing is a steal.
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Answered this in previous post.
Mine just showed up yesterday. 5.0.1.

CAn you help me?

Hi, i have a amazon fire 7(2015) and i trying to install a android clean os... The actually os is fire 5.4.0.0 and i discovered that to install a mod rom, i need a root... i try every method(kingroot, iroot,etc) and i failed.. if i try by fastboot i have a error "the command you input is restricted on locked hw"... i don't know what to do...
thanks
There is currently no root for that version.
And downgrade or something for change rom?
But I bought the tablet with this version of the factory, there was no manual update
Maybe my tablet is 2017 version... I don't know... I have bought this fire at primeday( 50% off)
Thanks
You are hosed untill an exploit is found. Recommend keeping it in a drawer with wifi off and battery below 30% amd looking for a rootable device on Craigslist or ebay because fire os is cancer
Vexstroxs said:
Hi, i have a amazon fire 7(2015) and i trying to install a android clean os... The actually os is fire 5.4.0.0 and i discovered that to install a mod rom, i need a root... i try every method(kingroot, iroot,etc) and i failed.. if i try by fastboot i have a error "the command you input is restricted on locked hw"... i don't know what to do...
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As others have noted there are no known root exploits for FireOS 5.4 nor are there any productive downgrade/rollback options. Recommend returning device to Amazon (you have 30 days from date of purchase) if FireOS proves unsatisfactory.
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