I have the Nexus wireless charging pad that works great on several phones, tablets, and my Moto 360. For whatever reason it will not charge the turbo. No matter where I place the phone on the charging pad, the charger is not detected. The Nexus charging pad has magnets and I can feel it pull the phone to the pad, but still no charge. .. Any ideas?
TYLT brand VU charger
ITGuy11 said:
I have the Nexus wireless charging pad that works great on several phones, tablets, and my Moto 360. For whatever reason it will not charge the turbo. No matter where I place the phone on the charging pad, the charger is not detected. The Nexus charging pad has magnets and I can feel it pull the phone to the pad, but still no charge. .. Any ideas?
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The TYLT brand Vu charger is absolutely great. 50 bucks and it charges really fast. I think right now its the fastest wireless charger available on the market. the charging speed sits right between a traditional charger and the turbo charger. Cant go wrong with that!
http://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/tylt-v-wireless-charging-pad-blue/
ITGuy11 said:
I have the Nexus wireless charging pad that works great on several phones, tablets, and my Moto 360. For whatever reason it will not charge the turbo. No matter where I place the phone on the charging pad, the charger is not detected. The Nexus charging pad has magnets and I can feel it pull the phone to the pad, but still no charge. .. Any ideas?
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mine does not work either
Nokia wireless chargers work great also
FYI, I've experienced the same issue. Nexus charger with magnets and the "microsuction" base doesn't charge, however my Nexus charging orb (the one that came out with the Nexus 4) DOES work just fine
Confirmed. Not compatible with my Nexus branded Qi charging puck. Kevlar DT.
As Qi is a standard, should there be any warranty/legal standing for fix/replace of either the phone or charger?
my XT1225 Moto Maxx, same phone, same hardware works just fine with 4 different Qi charger brands.
However on one -- an orb -- I find I have to move the phone so the orb is on the lower 1/3 bottom of the phone, almost the bottom 1/4 of the phone before it "finds" the Qi charger. On the others it's the halfway mark of the phone.
I can't speak to that specific charger, but I've found that the turbo has a very small wireless charge zone, you have to be dead on for it to work. Love the phone though!
I have a energizer dual wireless charger, works great with my nexus 5, turbo... Not so much. It'll start charging, then after a couple seconds it stops. (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
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Is anyone aware of a wireless charger that would enable the fast charging speeds of the charger in the box?
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Is anyone aware of a wireless charger that would enable the fast charging speeds of the charger in the box?
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I believe the limitation of Qi is 500 - 700 mA unfortunately.
I think, but not sure, that you can use and qi wireless charger as long as it's connected with the included (and rather large) Droid Turbo power adapter.
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I think, but not sure, that you can use and qi wireless charger as long as it's connected with the included (and rather large) Droid Turbo power adapter.
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I cant imagine you would need to use the turbo charger for this. Like SBC44 said the speed is going to be limited fairly low with wireless charging. It wouldn't be possible to charge that fast with wireless technologies, at least not with the current technology. The turbo charger moves a lot of juice.
Here is some good reading if your interested.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inductive_charging
From the article "Slower charging – due to the lower efficiency, devices can take longer to charge when supplied power is equal."
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I dont think so.. wall chargers are more powerful than wireless chargers.. Wireless chargers are still need to improve alot..
Wireless charging takes more than overnight!
Do not waste your money on the Verizon wireless charger. The battery in this is so big that even overnight does not bring a phone that was down to 25% up to a full charge.
Thanks for letting us know. I was about to buy the Verizon wireless charger 2 days ago when I was buying all my accessories for the phone. Would've been a bummer to find out how slow the wireless charger chargers. Thanks.
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The TYLT brand wireless charger is capable of normal wall plug speeds. It will be much faster than the average Qi charger but at the same time the turbo charger is amazing. I do not know of a charger that can charge as fast as the turbo charger but this TYLT brand is pretty good. The only reason I would get a wireless charger is to reduce wear and tear on my microUSB port (the culprit for retiring most of my previous android devices).
I also think its common knowledge that rapid charging and discharging of LiPo batteries reduces the overall life expectancy. I'm not sure what Motorola is doing with this whole "rapid charge and non removable battery" thing. Its possible that Turbo users can prolong the life of their batteries by charging at normal rates but I honestly don't have enough info to make a confident statement about that.
Here's the fastest Qi charger that I know of right now:
http://www.tylt.com/vu/
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The TYLT brand wireless charger is capable of normal wall plug speeds. It will be much faster than the average Qi charger but at the same time the turbo charger is amazing. I do not know of a charger that can charge as fast as the turbo charger but this TYLT brand is pretty good. The only reason I would get a wireless charger is to reduce wear and tear on my microUSB port (the culprit for retiring most of my previous android devices).
I also think its common knowledge that rapid charging and discharging of LiPo batteries reduces the overall life expectancy. I'm not sure what Motorola is doing with this whole "rapid charge and non removable battery" thing. Its possible that Turbo users can prolong the life of their batteries by charging at normal rates but I honestly don't have enough info to make a confident statement about that.
Here's the fastest Qi charger that I know of right now:
http://www.tylt.com/vu/
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I also use the Tylt Vu and am very pleased with it. Looking forward to their wireless car dock.
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I also use the Tylt Vu and am very pleased with it. Looking forward to their wireless car dock.
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Is there an actual model thats being advertised for release? Ive been searching everywhere for the right wireless car dock. Im trying to minimize my usage on the microUSB port.
That goes for everyone. If you know of any good wireless Qi car mounts /docks that would be superb. I drive all day every day.
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Is there an actual model thats being advertised for release? Ive been searching everywhere for the right wireless car dock. Im trying to minimize my usage on the microUSB port.
That goes for everyone. If you know of any good wireless Qi car mounts /docks that would be superb. I drive all day every day.
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Their website just says coming soon, but Android Police did a hands-on post about it a couple of weeks ago. Looks like the price will be about $80 (!).
I currently use this wireless car dock and haven't had any problems with it..
I was thinking of getting this car mount, but wasnt sure how it would work with the turbo. I have a few questions for you;
do you have a case on it? if so which one... i have the otterbox commuter...
what car are you using it in?
are you using the suction cup or vent connection?
any info would be helpful!
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I'm not using a case on the Turbo, but I used it with an HTC One M8 with a Commuter case and it worked fine. I drive a Chevy Avalanche and mounted the cradle using a ProClip vehicle mount and one of their adapter plates for an XM Radio believe it or not. That matches up pretty well with the tab on the back of the Choetech mount, but I did have to wrap a few rubber bands around the tab so it was tight enough.
I've used this one for close to a year with various devices. It does charge at 1.2a but is limited by the wireless receiver, most are .75a or less. That being said, this unit works great with my BN turbo. It is always at 99-100% after about 7 hours on night stand even when starting below 20%. Currently I'm not using a case, but I have a Commuter case I used for awhile and the wireless charger still worked fine through the case.
May be available in the end of 2015!
Right now there is no wireless charger that supports faster charging but it will soon be available in the end of 2015 as it is under developing state.
I have the Tylt and it says it supports the rapid charging. I can't say it is as fast as the wall charger since I've only had it a few days, but it does seem that the initial charge is very fast.
Also, very stylish. The wife doesn't even complain about leaving it on the night stand.
Bought the TYLT when I pick up the DT its well worth the $75. It charges faster than all my other home Qi chargers and it keeps the phone at a decent angle for viewing. It is not able to keep up with the draw of TS3 Viewer though, but not really a normal issue. I use this charger everyday and it will charge the phone from sub 15% to full overnight. Consequently I normally use this charger to charge up my wife's S5 and it seems to charge at a similar rate to her normal Samsung charger. I like useing this charger over the turbo charger simply because it should help the battery to last longer.
As far as dash mount I use the iOttie Easy Flex Wireless Qi Charger. That one maintains battery levels with the screen always on running Dash and Google Play (it also almost keeps up with running GPS ie. Waze/Google Maps) I posted an extensive reply in a later thread about that charger.
i bought the TYLT and love it. when i turn droid off and put it on TYLT and droid turns on itself. how do i keep droid off while charging? thanks.
bringing this back as I just bought this device. curious to see if there are any fast wireless chargers available yet? i do see QI wireless charging pads, but not sure if that is what I want. thanks!
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bringing this back as I just bought this device. curious to see if there are any fast wireless chargers available yet? i do see QI wireless charging pads, but not sure if that is what I want. thanks!
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I don't think any have hit the market yet. I have several of the tilt Qi chargers all over the house, so I love wireless charging.
Is anyone finding that their phone doesn't charge wirelessly? I tried a total of 4 devices, and 2 qi chargers last night and every device worked correctly for each charger except for the N6. I saw a MBKHD vid of how he couldn't get Qi working, but have seen other vids with people doing it no issue. Are there some defective devices out there or something?
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Is anyone finding that their phone doesn't charge wirelessly? I tried a total of 4 devices, and 2 qi chargers last night and every device worked correctly for each charger except for the N6. I saw a MBKHD vid of how he couldn't get Qi working, but have seen other vids with people doing it no issue. Are there some defective devices out there or something?
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My Nexus 5 charger works but the 6 has to be placed just so to get it to charge. The coil seems to be south of the phones equator.
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My Nexus 5 charger works but the 6 has to be placed just so to get it to charge. The coil seems to be south of the phones equator.
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I tried that charger and another one. Held it to the back with my hand, and slowly started sliding it all over the back of the phone to attempt to find a sweet spot. It never worked for me. :crying:
I found the nexus 5 charger very difficult, and it will not charge with the Motorola turbo charging block powering it. You need to use a regular AC/DC adapter.
The Nexus 4 Orb charger works fairly well, you need to be a little careful with placement but surgical like precision is not necessary. I would not buy this charger for the n6, but since I have it I will use it at work.
I did buy a Nokia dt-910 last night. This charger is supposed to work well with the n6.
-Rob
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I found the nexus 5 charger very difficult, and it will not charge with the Motorola turbo charging block powering it. You need to use a regular AC/DC adapter.
The Nexus 4 Orb charger works fairly well, you need to be a little careful with placement but surgical like precision is not necessary. I would not buy this charger for the n6, but since I have it I will use it at work.
I did buy a Nokia dt-910 last night. This charger is supposed to work well with the n6.
-Rob
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If I remember right, the Nexus Wireless Charger requires a 1.8A supply, and the Turbo charger is only 1.6A. That may be one issue. Another is that I'm pretty sure the Nexus charger determines the source type the same way Android phones do. In other words, it requires that the data pins be shorted together (otherwise, it assumes you're connected to a 500mA computer USB port). Use a standard "power only" cable (which doesn't have data wires at all), and it won't work. In either case... even when it does work, it's probably the worst charger for the N6. It was really designed to use those magnets for proper alignment, and without them, the N6, which has to be placed off-center, tends to fall off.
The Nokia DT-910 is probably one of the best chargers for the N6. Its only downfall is that it's a lower-amperage charger (I'm not at home to check, but I want to say 900mA-ish.) Still charges the N6 in a few hours though, so I've never really had an issue there.
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I found the nexus 5 charger very difficult, and it will not charge with the Motorola turbo charging block powering it. You need to use a regular AC/DC adapter.
The Nexus 4 Orb charger works fairly well, you need to be a little careful with placement but surgical like precision is not necessary. I would not buy this charger for the n6, but since I have it I will use it at work.
I did buy a Nokia dt-910 last night. This charger is supposed to work well with the n6.
-Rob
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I tried different cords, power blocks, and I even have a wall outlet in my house that has USB ports directly into the power.
My old wireless orb and a Zens charger seem to work fine. Maybe a tad warm when I pick up from charger.
Nexus 4 orb seems to work, although it's hard to balance the phone.
Anyone able to reliably charge wirelessly? I have a few Qi pads and without carefully and meticulously placing it in just the right spot it won't charge. And even then it often toggles in and out of charging.
Any suggestions? Or a pad that will work reliably?
Thanks
-bc
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I have charged on Tylt Vu every night since I got it with no issues.
I put it on my TYLT every night now and its at 100% when I wake up. It does goes to 99% faster than when I charge it with my regular charger but I think that's just me.
couple of the threads on this in the accessories section.
OP should post up the pads he or she uses so others can compare.
i too have no issues charging wirelessly with two different model chargers.
marctronixx said:
couple of the threads on this in the accessories section.
OP should post up the pads he or she uses so others can compare.
i too have no issues charging wirelessly with two different model chargers.
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You’re right. I have two different pads I’ve tried:
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1.*******CHOETECH Qi Wireless Charger Pad – works almost never. Even with meticulous placement.
2.*******PowerBot® PB1020 Qi Enabled Wireless Charger Pad – works reliably with very careful placement.
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I’m intrigued to try the TYLY Vu, just ordered a used one. Hoping this provides more reliable everyday use. I’d prefer to be able to just put the hone down before bed and be assured it will work every time.
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I ordered this fairly cheap Qi Wireless Charger Pad on eBay and it works perfectly.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311142445315?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
The tylt seems to be the best deal in terms of consistent docks. I have returned several different chargers and am using the tylt and choe stadium chargers..
My charger works fine, but stops supplying power once the device reaches 100%. I'll wake up with about 98% because of several hours of standby drain.
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You’re right. I have two different pads I’ve tried:
2.*******PowerBot® PB1020 Qi Enabled Wireless Charger Pad – works reliably with very careful placement.
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I have the powerBot and can confirm the same. Works reliably, but takes a bit of moving around to get it started. Once I get the solid blue light on it then I've never had an issue with the charge being incomplete.
Was also looking at tylt vu, might put it on my xmas list..
The Nokia DT-900 wireless charging plate I got from AT&T a few months ago for $5/ea works just fine.
i have the CHOE Stadium Qi Wireless Charger and it's working without issue. it even charges with my (thin) case on the phone.
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The Nokia DT-900 wireless charging plate I got from AT&T a few months ago for $5/ea works just fine.
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it works fine, but it turns the damn thing on 100% of the time. i don't want that. charges Nexus 5 just fine while it's off. for now i'm just using the turbo charger until i can figure out what the hell to do
With my nexus 6, I have had good luck with the itan ( a tylt vu knock off) http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00LE6X5VU/ and tylt vu charger, also the 2012 original google wireless charger, but my other qi chargers do not work well, including two airdocks and the 2013 nexus wireless charger. It is more an issue of correct placement, than the qi technology per se. Qi works on the nexus 6, butit is harder to place the n6 correctly due to the two axis curved back plate, which has no flat part at all, so the small single coil chargers do not work as well as the larger triple coil chargers, like the itan or tylt vu or chose stadium.
Following back here, I have been using the Tylt Vu without flaw for a month of so here. It's very good at working with the 6 when I just put it down on it, no fiddling necessary ever.
Definitely recommend.
XxKINGxX2580 said:
I ordered this fairly cheap Qi Wireless Charger Pad on eBay and it works perfectly.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311142445315?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
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I have what appears to be this exact unit, ordered here... http://www.ebay.com/itm/181694553032?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT in fact, I bought 3 of them at the same time (i wanted them for different locations that i am all day) and none of them work for some reason... i line my n6 up exactly, the light turns green for a second or 2, my phone shows that it's charging for less than a second and then the plate goes back to red again... i've tried all kinds of alignments, even disassembled one to see if there was too much space between the coil and the phone... it hasn't worked for more than a blip...
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You’re right. I have two different pads I’ve tried:
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2.*******PowerBot® PB1020 Qi Enabled Wireless Charger Pad – works reliably with very careful placement.
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I’m intrigued to try the TYLY Vu, just ordered a used one. Hoping this provides more reliable everyday use. I’d prefer to be able to just put the hone down before bed and be assured it will work every time.
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I have the CHOE triple coil QI and I have had no issues charging my Nexus 6. It even charges through my INCIPIO rubber case.
Using a Nokia as we speak, never had a problem. That being said you have to realize that the charging coil is off center in this phone, approzimately 1/3 of the way up from the bottom, I assume to facilitate the use of chargers designed for smaller phones. This can cause a charging problem for those that don't position the phone correctly over the centered charging spot on the charger. Remember that and all chargers should work on the N6 as well as they work on any other Qi phone.
Using a vzw 3 coil. only thing I've noticed is that sometimes it doesn't start charging. I usually unplug the pin connector, wait a few seconds, them plug it back in and its always been full in the morning.
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I have a Nexus 6 and using the Powerbot PB1020. It works very well, connects easily, charges fast, not much heat but when it finishes it cuts the powerbot off and will not charge again until I unplug and re-plug the powerbot. This is not a huge deal but I would like to see myself never touching the plug again. Case in point, my elderly parents are very interested in Qi charging as they have a hard time seeing the plug on the phone and would benefit greatly from total Qi charging. However, if they have to unplug and replug the powerbot every night to reset it, then it seems a waste of money. Any others having this issue? Is it only on the Powerbot? DO all of the chargers do this? Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks,
Rob
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I have a Nexus 6 and using the Powerbot PB1020. It works very well, connects easily, charges fast, not much heat but when it finishes it cuts the powerbot off and will not charge again until I unplug and re-plug the powerbot. This is not a huge deal but I would like to see myself never touching the plug again. Case in point, my elderly parents are very interested in Qi charging as they have a hard time seeing the plug on the phone and would benefit greatly from total Qi charging. However, if they have to unplug and replug the powerbot every night to reset it, then it seems a waste of money. Any others having this issue? Is it only on the Powerbot? DO all of the chargers do this? Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks,
Rob
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i have a samsung wireless charger($50), and it never cuts off the charger or "stops" charging.
About a week ago I used a match to singe the nylon that was fraying as it was bad and I was past the 2 week return policy from Verizon. Ever since then my wireless charging has not functioned properly. I had two different chargers. The first one was a Keedox stand and the second was the PowerBot
So I was using the keedox charger but after awhile it would just randomly disconnect and the phone would say detected wireless charger starting charge. I tried the Powerbot charger and it went all the way through no issues with the screen turning back on constantly. Well now the Powerbot is doing the same thing the first one did. I left it on the mat last night but when I woke up it was only at 50% and had stopped charging. I use an app called battery widget and it showed me around 60% it just stopped and starting discharging. I already returned the Keedox one assuming it was defective but now this leads me to think its a problem with the phone. Could the receiver coil in my phone be bad and causing issues with the wireless chargers?
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About a week ago I used a match to singe the nylon that was fraying as it was bad and I was past the 2 week return policy from Verizon. Ever since then my wireless charging has not functioned properly. I had two different chargers. The first one was a Keedox stand and the second was the PowerBot
So I was using the keedox charger but after awhile it would just randomly disconnect and the phone would say detected wireless charger starting charge. I tried the Powerbot charger and it went all the way through no issues with the screen turning back on constantly. Well now the Powerbot is doing the same thing the first one did. I left it on the mat last night but when I woke up it was only at 50% and had stopped charging. I use an app called battery widget and it showed me around 60% it just stopped and starting discharging. I already returned the Keedox one assuming it was defective but now this leads me to think its a problem with the phone. Could the receiver coil in my phone be bad and causing issues with the wireless chargers?
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I've never been able to get my $15 Powebot (the small circular one) to work well with my Turbo
I saw s video on the Nexus 6 and showing how hard it was to exactly position it for wireless charging. Our Turbos could be having the same issue. Lack of magnet and small sensor.
Sent from my Turbo.
my single coil qi charger was a pain with the turbo. i have the itian a6 and it works great everytime
http://www.amazon.com/Itian-Standard-Wireless-Charging--Shipping/dp/B00LFVPQS4/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1417822843&sr=8-3&keywords=Itian+A6
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my single coil qi charger was a pain with the turbo. i have the itian a6 and it works great everytime
http://www.amazon.com/Itian-Standar...=UTF8&qid=1417822843&sr=8-3&keywords=Itian+A6
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Looks just like the Vu, if its the same quality then it's Def a good Qi charger...
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I've never been able to get my $15 Powebot (the small circular one) to work well with my Turbo
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I have the same problem with the Powerbot. I have a feeling it might be the rubber around the edge not letting the phone get close enough to the coil. it works perfectly to charge my Nexus 7 and Moto 360 though, so it might just be the Droid.
For the record. the Aukey Wirless Charging Station is by far the best charger for all my devices. Droid turbo works great in portrait or landscape
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I have the same problem with the Powerbot. I have a feeling it might be the rubber around the edge not letting the phone get close enough to the coil. it works perfectly to charge my Nexus 7 and Moto 360 though, so it might just be the Droid.
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But is it possible exposure to alot of heat could have harmed the wireless charger to the point where it no longer functions? That was my other concern. Im not sure how the receiving coil is in the phone.
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But is it possible exposure to alot of heat could have harmed the wireless charger to the point where it no longer functions? That was my other concern. Im not sure how the receiving coil is in the phone.
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My phone won't charge on my PowerBot, but I have 2 Nokia chargers that work excellently with the Turbo. The Powerbot charger works fine with my Moto 360.
I believe the Nokia charges have 3 coils in them, so it is really easy to get a decent placement of the phone on the charger.
I think the powerbot is a single coil charger, and placement is really critical. I think I've been able to get the Turbo to charge before, but only after playing around forever with placement. The distance from the charger to the phone shouldn't be so sensitive that the rubber on the charger would keep it from charging.
sensor size
just my opinion, but compared to the last phone i had, I feel like the turbo has a very small sweet spot to actually charge clean.
still love the phone, it's awesome. The huge battery has had me slowly not being always worried about finding a charger all day. My battery ptsd is going away!
just my 2 cents..
Has anyone had a good experience w/the powerbot? I already put two on my Christmas list
Is it just finicky, or doesn't work at all?
Though if the Moto 360 charges ok on it I can still use it for that I suppose.
impala454 said:
Has anyone had a good experience w/the powerbot? I already put two on my Christmas list
Is it just finicky, or doesn't work at all?
Though if the Moto 360 charges ok on it I can still use it for that I suppose.
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I keep one at work and it worked fine with my S3 (with receiver pad). The turbo needs to be o it 'just right' to work. I could live without the beep, but whatever.
I would buy another if I needed to ..
I'm new to the wireless charging world. I recently purchased a Nexus 6 (migrated from a 2013 moto x), and decided to purchase an Anker PowerPort Qi Wireless Charger to try wireless charging.
From what I've read, the sweet spot is bottom 1/2-1/3 of the device, near the "u" in nexus on the back. However, I can't get the device to be detected by the charger. Is there any setting that needs to be enabled or any special trick to make this work?
No, wireless charging should work out of the box. I'm having similar problem here, luckily there are 2 nexus 6 in the house. One is working flawless on my Ikea wireless charging point, one (unfortunately mine.....) Is not doing anything, no matter how i place it or how long i let it there.
I've contacted my reseller, have to send it in for repair....