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MUCH BETTER THAN JuiceDefender, almost as exciting as CM.

**UPDATE**
AutomateIt Pro Rules attached (the .7z file). They do the following:
1. Run DataSwitch when screen turns on or off
2. Disable 1. if WiFi is connected, phone is charging or if a phone call occurs
3. Enable 1. if WiFi is disconnected, phone is unplugged or if a phone call ends
Has crazy nested and/or statements to make sure it doesn't enable 1. if WiFi turns off but still charging, for example
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Saying a lot, I know. But honestly, how useful is CM + other tweaks if the battery dies in 3-4 hours?
Folks, I present to you what is in my opinion the best option for maximizing battery life.
I have tried several versions of JuiceDefender and many other setups to disable 3/4G while screen is off to maximize battery (doing so more than doubles the life for most). The issues I have not been able to solve are 1. the excessive lag for enabling connection and 2. the extreme unreliability with which most 'solutions' do so.
After tinkering with a bunch of data enabler/disablers on the market, I think I've found a working solution.
While initially very excited about AutomateIt, I was disappointed with its enable/disable data functionality. I presume it does so by tinkering with APN, which has proven to be very clunky for me (and others).
However, if you instead use it to trigger an alternative data disabler, you can have an automated mobile data triggering system dependent on phone use.
Download the apps:
1. DataSwitch
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"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
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2. AutomateIt
And import the rules file (which I zipped then attached to this post).
I created the rules pretty hastily today (spent longer writing this post) so feel free to tweak them and repost.
Basically, what it does is:
1. disables mobile data when screen is turned off
2. enables it when screen is turned on
3. disables 1 and 2 during calls (as putting the phone to your ear automatically turns off the screen, etc.) and re-enables 1 and 2 on call's end
The lag is about 2-3 seconds instead of 3-10, which, for me, is a huge deal, as I need a data connection to start my car, control the music in my condo, etc.

sweeet. will try! do you use this with juicedefender or as a replacement?

jackpot08 said:
sweeet. will try! do you use this with juicedefender or as a replacement?
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this is a replacement- in fact, you should never try to run two separate apps/solutions for enabling/disabling data.
notes after a day of use:
1. this sometimes has issues when connected to WiFi. options are a) disable WiFi (4g is faster, often, anyway) or b) make a rule to disable the other rules on wifi connect (and re-enable on disconnect)
2. when it works, this is awesome.

Triskite said:
this is a replacement- in fact, you should never try to run two separate apps/solutions for enabling/disabling data.
notes after a day of use:
1. this sometimes has issues when connected to WiFi. options are a) disable WiFi (4g is faster, often, anyway) or b) make a rule to disable the other rules on wifi connect (and re-enable on disconnect)
2. when it works, this is awesome.
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sounds great. how can i import your settings that you've uploaded?.
nevermind got it to import. thanks and please post an update if you get a better work set of rules

I've had a hard time trying to replace juicedefender
Sent from my GT-I5800 using XDA App

ive been running Advanced task killer with juice defender, should i get rid of both when using this?

Brksy86 said:
ive been running Advanced task killer with juice defender, should i get rid of both when using this?
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Disable jd entirely or disable just its mobile data control.
Atk should be fine, just make sure it doesn't kill automateit.

marcelloLins said:
I've had a hard time trying to replace juicedefender
Sent from my GT-I5800 using XDA App
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How do you feel about '2x battery'
Seemed to work better than juicedefender

Brksy86 said:
ive been running Advanced task killer with juice defender, should i get rid of both when using this?
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You don't need a task killer anymore because of Android 2.2 (Froyo). Android puts processes to sleep inside our RAM to save time and battery life. Every time you kill an app, the system has to go and reload everything, whereas it could just be woken up from within the RAM. What you need is a process monitor that detects how much CPU is being pulled by your apps in the background. AFAIK, Watchdog is the best/only app that does this. It shows you that most apps are sleeping in your RAM and not pulling CPU (apps that any task killer would show as using RAM), and watches for any apps that go wild and pull lots of CPU power.
The CyanogenMod team won't take your bug reports seriously if you're running a task killer; they get canned.
In shorthand; consider your RAM a dormitory in which apps go to sleep until they are needed again. Free RAM has little to do with performance on the phone. Less available RAM is actually good. It mean more apps are sleeping and can be quickly accessed when they are needed.
Here is an excellent article on the subject. Enjoy!
http://m.lifehacker.com/5650894/and...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them

got it working and i love it! i notice that there is an automateit pro app. is there anyway with that you could have more settings for better battery life? the pro has more features.

jackpot08 said:
got it working and i love it! i notice that there is an automateit pro app. is there anyway with that you could have more settings for better battery life? the pro has more features.
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from the market:
The advanced features included in this version are:
* Composite Triggers - use more than a single trigger for each rule using AND/OR logic between these triggers
* Composite Action - execute several actions as a result of a single trigger (which can be a composite trigger)
* Rule Active Period - set an active period for each rule. Really useful if you only want a certain rule to be active only during daytime, weekends, just an hour a day etc.
* Sensor Trigger - utilize all your device' sensors as a trigger for a desired action. This includes usage of all the sensors supported by Android - Accelerometer, Light, Proximity etc.
* Calendar Trigger - monitor events on your different calendars
* Enable/Disable Screen Lock Action - Enables or disables your screen lock slide/pattern/password/pin
that sounds AWESOME. way better than having to make so many rules.
i probably won't buy it though because i'm convinced i'll somehow have enough free time to learn how to just make my own app to do all this.
on day 3 the data en/disabler app is taking longer than I'd like to do its thing. maybe it's the city i'm in currently.

Triskite said:
from the market:
The advanced features included in this version are:
* Composite Triggers - use more than a single trigger for each rule using AND/OR logic between these triggers
* Composite Action - execute several actions as a result of a single trigger (which can be a composite trigger)
* Rule Active Period - set an active period for each rule. Really useful if you only want a certain rule to be active only during daytime, weekends, just an hour a day etc.
* Sensor Trigger - utilize all your device' sensors as a trigger for a desired action. This includes usage of all the sensors supported by Android - Accelerometer, Light, Proximity etc.
* Calendar Trigger - monitor events on your different calendars
* Enable/Disable Screen Lock Action - Enables or disables your screen lock slide/pattern/password/pin
that sounds AWESOME. way better than having to make so many rules.
i probably won't buy it though because i'm convinced i'll somehow have enough free time to learn how to just make my own app to do all this.
on day 3 the data en/disabler app is taking longer than I'd like to do its thing. maybe it's the city i'm in currently.
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Yeah it is a $1. 50. Does sound like it coukd be cool though.. If you do have loose morals you coukd get it for free... Not that i suggest that though
Sent from my VS910 4G using XDA Premium App

jackpot08 said:
Yeah it is a $1. 50. Does sound like it coukd be cool though.. If you do have loose morals you coukd get it for free... Not that i suggest that though
Sent from my VS910 4G using XDA Premium App
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eh I paid for it. glad i did, it's freakin' sweet. love that you can nest and/or statements within rules indefinitely...
check out the new rules i just posted for AI Pro, they are so crazy!

I can't seem to get the regular and pro rules imported t is there anyway you could combine them into 1 for me thanks so much
Sent from my VS910 4G using XDA Premium App

jackpot08 said:
I can't seem to get the regular and pro rules imported t is there anyway you could combine them into 1 for me thanks so much
Sent from my VS910 4G using XDA Premium App
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hmm if you have the pro version only import the pro rules.
if you have the regular only import the regular
they do not stack

Triskite said:
hmm if you have the pro version only import the pro rules.
if you have the regular only import the regular
they do not stack
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ohh go figure! haha thank you!

jackpot08 said:
sounds great. how can i import your settings that you've uploaded?.
nevermind got it to import. thanks and please post an update if you get a better work set of rules
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How did you import? Your help is appreciated...
Sent from my VS910 4G using XDA Premium App

same here. can't figure out the import part.

wait i had it... let me mess with it again. i can't do it

I downloaded the file to my phone, then installed AndroZip from the market to extract it. Open the .AIR file using a file manager (I use ES File Explorer), and I selected "open as text", then AutomateIt Pro is listed as an available app to open it, and voila.. There may be an easier way, but this worked for me.

How to disable "NetworkLocationService"

It should be simple as disabling network location and Google locations service on settings, but I was almost crazy trying to figure out how to disable this NetworkLocationService. It was appearing every time I started gmaps, and it makes wifi wakelock incredibly frequent, draining the battery as hell with phone sleeping and wifi sets as "only when charging" on wifi sleep policy. The only solution was remember to kill that process every time of opening gmaps.
That's the process:
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"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
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So I realise that on my gmaps settings, there were options to report my location and save my location history. And this was working even with locations disabled! Then I just disabled all that and voilà! The process went away!
That's the options on gmaps. Sorry for the Portuguese on the screenshots, but I suppose that it's understandable.
Now my wakelocks by wifi went away, so you can imagine the battery life after that.
Just sharing this because I didn't found a solution; there is only topics here on xda (on other device's forum) telling that you should downgrade gmaps to solve this.
If I'd helped you, just press "thanks". It's free!

Nice guide although,disabling all of that would lead that i can't have fast gps lock and you need to turn all of that if you want to use igo but you can leave with that

aigaming said:
Nice guide although,disabling all of that would lead that i can't have fast gps lock and you need to turn all of that if you want to use igo but you can leave with that
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I don't think so; the agps feature is independent from this network location. I tested mine right now, and it locks in less than 10s close to my room's window and it's raining. Not bad at all.
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louiscypherbr said:
I don't think so; the agps feature is independent from this network location. I tested mine right now, and it locks in less than 10s close to my room's window and it's raining. Not bad at all.
Sent from my LG-P990 using xda app-developers app
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Nope,its mendatory for fast fix
Try restarting phone and then try gps fix
Without it, took some time 2 get a lock,with it turned on i lock in 10sec's:good:

Thanks for sharing louiscypherbr.
It looks to work for me.

aigaming said:
Nope,its mendatory for fast fix
Try restarting phone and then try gps fix
Without it, took some time 2 get a lock,with it turned on i lock in 10sec's:good:
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You can try for yourself.
I freshly installed dmx 1.5, disabled NetworkLocationService and started gmaps: exactly 22s to get a lock. Not bad considering it's the first fix on device.
Then I rebooted, waited all startup programs to load, certified that NetworkLocationService was not working in background and opened gmaps: 6s to fix! If agps was disabled it would be impossible to fix fast as that. I could make a movie, but I think there's no reason to do not believe.
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It's independent from A-GPS, it's just some google service which tracks all routers and network antenna's and reports your location based on that. A-GPS uses data to track satelites quicker, correct me if I am wrong, but A-GPS just tells your phone something like: the satelites are over there. Google tells you: you are now on blabla street no 31, because they scan the whole world.

x_justin said:
It's independent from A-GPS, it's just some google service which tracks all routers and network antenna's and reports your location based on that. A-GPS uses data to track satelites quicker, correct me if I am wrong, but A-GPS just tells your phone something like: the satelites are over there. Google tells you: you are now on blabla street no 31, because they scan the whole world.
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A-GPS doesn't mean "Assisted GPS"? A Standardized service wich help GPS software (Navigon, NDrive,....) to assist finding the best way depending on the trafic?

True,but you know when you cant find fix you first clear network location service...
Why then didnt you just freeze that service?It's easy couse we are rooted
Agps means assisted gps and it uses sotware(google servers defined in gps.conf) to pinpoint your location faster

aigaming said:
True,but you know when you cant find fix you first clear network location service...
Why then didnt you just freeze that service?It's easy couse we are rooted
Agps means assisted gps and it uses sotware(google servers defined in gps.conf) to pinpoint your location faster
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Because I want an easy way to enable it when I need it, just holding the "gps" icon on notification and ticking "Google location service". But this resource uses a huge amount of battery, so i don't want it enabled at background while I'm not using it. Simple as that. :thumbup:
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So I realise that on my gmaps settings, there were options to report my location and save my location history. And this was working even with locations disabled! Then I just disabled all that and voilà! The process went away!
That's the options on gmaps. Sorry for the Portuguese on the screenshots, but I suppose that it's understandable.
Hello,
I found your post very interesting and wanted to check my settings but somehow I can not find in GMaps settings options from your last screenshot?
Please, can you point me to this menu precicely if this in not problem for you?
GMaps -> Settings -> Location settings ?
Thank you in advance!
Cheers

oneplus 3t kills background apps with high cpu usage

Some of you probably heard of the oneplus 3 killing background apps after they hit a certain number (12)
this isn't the case anymore with our 3t and nougat (the limit is 32 now), but what I noticed was that the stock rom kills bg apps now that use "too much" cpu, which definitely is not what I want.
It even kills the app's instead of cleanly letting them shut themselves down, leading to data loss on my side
I basically sometimes let MozStumbler (app's name) run in the background which uses quite some GPS and cpu time and I know that and willingly want to drain a bit of battery life for that
the 3t has enough anyways
but it doesn't let me:
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"lightbox_share": "Share",
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as you can see in the log
bgdetect (whatever it is) seems to be killing the app
disabling strict standby for the app in the battery saving options doesn't fix it
it seems like the oneplus 3 already had the "issue":
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...lling-legitimate-background-processes.454330/
it would be amazing if somebody with enough knowledge and the same motivation as me could take a look at it
Regards,
Djfe

Maybe this settings is killing the app to make sure that the phone doesn't heat up

good pick, but that isn't it
the setting is turned off for me as well :/

I've noticed that issue, too and opened a support ticket. We will see, what happens...

kriztan said:
I've noticed that issue, too and opened a support ticket. We will see, what happens...
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have you got an answer to your support ticket, yet?

Hi, I've gotten a lot of answers, beginning with resetting phone over flashing back to marshmallow but nothing helpful with Android 7. They told me that they were working on a patch. Let's wait for the next OTA.

I've contacted the OnePlus support via forum and via support tickets about that, but they are as incompetent as possible. The OxygenOS is violating Android policies and the support is telling me that this a the normal use case. For me it was my first and only device from OnePlus.
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oxygenos-4-bgdetect-is-killing-background-processes.503627/
What will be the next? Device will switch off completely to save battery after some minutes in idle?
I'm saying good bye to OnePlus...

kriztan said:
I've contacted the OnePlus support via forum and via support tickets about that, but they are as incompetent as possible. The OxygenOS is violating Android policies and the support is telling me that this a the normal use case. For me it was my first and only device from OnePlus.
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oxygenos-4-bgdetect-is-killing-background-processes.503627/
What will be the next? Device will switch off completely to save battery after some minutes in idle?
I'm saying good bye to OnePlus...
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Foreground service notifications in Android are there for a reason. If they forcibly close such services with BgDetect and claim it's normal they are just a bunch of incompetent ignorants.

kriztan said:
I've contacted the OnePlus support via forum and via support tickets about that, but they are as incompetent as possible. The OxygenOS is violating Android policies and the support is telling me that this a the normal use case. For me it was my first and only device from OnePlus.
What will be the next? Device will switch off completely to save battery after some minutes in idle?
I'm saying good bye to OnePlus...
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To be fair, your bug report says BgDetect is killing background processes, which I can understand it would do by design, when the real problem is that it silently kills foreground services as well.
I'm currently working on a project with a service that collects data from an external device, performs a number of calculations on that data, and then passes the results forward to a game running in the foreground. That means that, yes, that service is using up quite a few CPU cycles, but that's kind of the point. It doesn't mean that it should be killed off just like that, which is why I made it to run as a foreground service. But apparently OxygenOS begs to differ.
Fortunately, this project is targeted to run on a Samsung Galaxy S7, or maybe a Google Pixel, and I'm only running it on a OnePlus 3T for testing and debugging purposes. It just makes testing a bit annoying, plus I just spent half a day chasing a red herring.

Dj_Fex said:
good pick, but that isn't it
the setting is turned off for me as well :/
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Hey mate
You meant this?
I'm not sure

There is option to close high cpu usage apps like FB .Essemger, you can turn that off.
Mostly it gives notification about high cpu usages first and then when you click on it, it automatically closes from the next time onwards.

Navi44 said:
There is option to close high cpu usage apps like FB .Essemger, you can turn that off.
Mostly it gives notification about high cpu usages first and then when you click on it, it automatically closes from the next time onwards.
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I did never receive such a notification, and it keeps closing apps every day but unpredictable. Sometimes apps don't run even 5 min in background and sometimes they stay for 12 hours. That includes PoGo, Firefox and my geocaching-app (I rarely use any other apps except a chat app). Often I also miss notifications from discord, so probably some more services are killed. I'm pretty sure it even crashed my geocache-database, a thing which did not happen in 3 1/2 year with my old device.
I got my device 4 weeks ago and would like to get rid of it already. As said above by somebody else, my first and last device from Oneplus.

For people looking for answer, under Settings/Battery/Battery optimization, there is list of apps and you can decide whether to optimize selected app or not. Optimize seems to be default and it means "restrict app running on background"

This has nothing to do with Battery optimizations GeoMV. This is not an Android setting, but an OnePlus feature to save battery.
A real soloution is a new firmware, e.g. LineageOS. This is working since almost a year without any issues.

Question Delayed Typing After Update

Just accepted the latest update on my S21 Ultra and noticed straight away that there is a delay on typing. Usually if I open messaging app I can tap the text box and start typing instantly. Now there's a few seconds delay so it misses off the first word or so. It's very annoying.
Happens in any app eg Messages, WhatsApp etc.
Tried Gboard which is my usual but also tested and it's the same on Asking keyboard. It's driving me mad!
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Clear system cache

Clearing cache hasn't worked. Genuinely think it's a bug with the latest update I got. Started after that and it's the only thing that's changed.

ephumuris said:
Just accepted the latest update on my S21 Ultra and noticed straight away that there is a delay on typing. Usually if I open messaging app I can tap the text box and start typing instantly. Now there's a few seconds delay so it misses off the first word or so. It's very annoying.
Happens in any app eg Messages, WhatsApp etc.
Tried Gboard which is my usual but also tested and it's the same on Asking keyboard. It's driving me mad!
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Don't see such a problem on my device...but I can't really relate to your problem literally. Do you have a video showing the lag?

It's not really obvious that I'm tapping but I press the buttons as soon as the keyboard appears.

That's horrific and it would drive me mad very quickly.
Feels like the keyboard is connecting to a service. Have you gone down the list of disabling all advanced features, like GIF/emoji integration, then enabling each one one at a time?

ephumuris said:
Clearing cache hasn't worked. Genuinely think it's a bug with the latest update I got. Started after that and it's the only thing that's changed.
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Try in safe mode.

Your phone is probably recalibrating. Suffer for another day or 2 and it will likely go away.

Really don't see it in my device. Have you tried another keyboard. I'm on SwiftKey and don't have this issue.

amirage said:
Really don't see it in my device. Have you tried another keyboard. I'm on SwiftKey and don't have this issue.
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The Samsung keyboard is one of the best, so much so many prefer it. I've been using the same Samsung keyboard layout for almost 8 years. One of the few things Samsung hasn't screwed up, but they are on a roll
This delay glitch is unacceptable... drop the ball Sammy.

Am I missing an update or so? I don't see this delay...hmm

amirage said:
Am I missing an update or so? I don't see this delay...hmm
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It may only adversely effect certain production batches. Update roulette...

It could well be due to messaging app iso the keyboard.
It seems the messaging app may be waiting for voice input.
See SS of OP's screen video, and the circled icon...

OnnoJ said:
It could well be due to messaging app iso the keyboard.
It seems the messaging app may be waiting for voice input.
See SS of OP's screen video, and the circled icon...View attachment 5576263
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Good point. Intelligent phones aren't that intelligent and many of those features rely on internet connection to process the raw voice inputs. Not sure if this is one but it likely is.
I disable voice to text, always... and little Bixby too

I've factory reset. Gone through the pain of installing all my apps and it's still the same.
Very good points regarding services I think I'll try and disable anything voice related as I don't use that!

Ok disabled the voice stuff I could find and it's still doing it. Driving me friggin mad!!

ephumuris said:
Ok disabled the voice stuff I could find and it's still doing it. Driving me friggin mad!!
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Clear system cache. Hard reboot.
Device Care>Battery, make sure ALL power management is disabled, except display setting which should be optimized or higher.
If still doing it Device Care>memory, clear the cache, now use the keyboard and immediately go back to memory and see what was added. Those are potential seauspects.

I'll add to blackhawk's instructions - kill your data & wifi then reboot and try again (with the data & wifi still off). So often when a computer has these little lags, it's data connection related - like something is phoning home or phoning out. I'm getting that gut feeling with this one too.

burnxtc said:
I'll add to blackhawk's instructions - kill your data & wifi then reboot and try again. So often when a computer has these little lags, it's data connection related - like something is phoning home or phoning out. I'm getting that gut feeling with this one too.
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Add a network reset to the list and a carrier network reset.
I never liked voice commands; when you're out of the streets, driving, walking, jogging, whatever... the phone needs to disappear.
It's a liability, not asset. You need to be paying attention to your surroundings not matter how boring or inconvenient it seems.
Bad things happen fast, you need to be ready... not jerking off with the phone.
Even when talking, you are being distracted. The man with no name knew that...

Check your Access point settings too.
On my AT&T NXTGENPHONE profile I found that instead of "hipri" (high priority) it had "fota" (Firmware Over-The-Air) which I don't want.
So I created a new profile and tested it. Instant download speed increase it seems... still testing.
APN type default,mms,supl,hipri
My original profile was set as IPv4/IPv6, which I used on my new profile instead of the AT&T suggested IPv4 only.
APN protocol IPv4
If you do this create a new profile with a different name so you can retain your original one too.
Don't forget to fill in any relevant spaces on the new and leave the blank ones blank unless you know better.
AT&T APN Info
For other carriers you'll need to up their APN specs.

How To Guide Stop vivo spyware with app ops

I've tried everything possible to stop vivos spyware, namely cim.vivo.pushservice and com.vivo.abe (plus maybe some others but the main one clearly is push service - whatever you do interacting with your phone shortly after push service tries (because I blocked it's internet access with Adguard) to contact some Chinese servers.
Edit: For app ops to work reliably you need to debloat com.vivo.devicereg first. Also remove com.vivo.abe and other apps for best results first - see here for list: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...al-battery-drain.4544851/page-5#post-88459025
You cannot debloat it, you cannot freeze it, there is no normal way to remove it from starting as you cannot simply restrict it from running as it runs on user 1000.
However what you can do, though only with app ops is to simply remove it access to any system content by providing fake zero content (ignore). Actual denying is also not possible.
I'm attaching a screenshot on how to set it up and I don't know which actual setting works, but something does work because for the first time I'm using this device it's not trying to connect to the internet anymore. This should also substantially improve battery life.
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You need to activate system and system framework apps to show it. By default they are hidden.
It's quite crazy how many times different vivo apps access location and contacts. Well enough other apps are pretty annoying in accessing fine location so app ops is a great tool to cut down on requests by apps (yes usually a power manager would restrict the apps a bit, but as we have to remove vivo.pem to receive notifications app ops is the answer)
If you setup an island with islands app, it's pretty crazy how fast the vivo system starts requesting access to loads of stuff. Maybe because I forbid internet access to the vivo spyware it kept on going crazy? Well clearly by default this system send everything, and yeah really everything straight to Chinese servers when it comes to location, contacts, messages, phone log, system settings and so on. You cannot even deny this but it's great that android now provides the ignore function which will return empty information instead.
This one is especially terrifying. I guess the service gathers all the data it gives to push service to send to China... Put it on ignore straight away.
App ops is available on Google play, installation needs shizuku too which is a bit complicated and needs restarting after reboot of system. However most settings should survive a reboot (I have to try and monitor this), best make a backup and yeah totally worth it to buy the full version. There is no single other app that I tried which worked and the auto restore feature is only available in full version. Also some more other stuff.
I'm thinking if I should remove all accounts and try the device owner mode. Clearly this will be the first thing I will do on any new phone or hard reset. Put shizuku as owner so it can autostart
App Ops - Permission manager - Apps on Google Play
Manage app permission with App Ops (require root or adb)
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Edit/Update.
Vivo using system user 1000 is problematic because somehow you cannot set some/many permissions per app but only per user. It's hard to see when this applies and when not.
So both of this apps which are core parts of the spyware armada will share/influence the android system permission on location. Clearly debloat would be better but impossible without root.
You cannot directly set it here - and that's the problem. It's even not possible in the log to tell which user 1000 app requested location as somehow it will always show android system...

Some things I do not know yet - because I didn't use it long enough.
Does Vivo rotten oranges tries to overwrite the settings? MIUI seemingly does and there is a restore mode especially for it.
Some reviews mention that the backup/import option does not work for System apps. I don't know if this was fixed or not (seems to have been okay 2-3 years ago - maybe downgrade if that is so).
Do you need the app? No you could do this manually or even write a batch as its all app ops set commands. But that would be way way more complicated than using the app (and the free version does most things already).
I hope by seeing the body sensors log I managed to eliminate the offending apps like Phone that accessed them and cause the phone to lose battery while on the go like crazy.
Which apps should you set to ignore everything?
Well foremost those that we would all like to uninstall and remove but cannot.
com.vivo.abe, push notifications service, com.android.phone (and use a different dialler app instead - the default phone must be spyware infused to the top as it becomes active all of the time without being in use and replaced in my case with google phone already), the numbermark stuff, vivo locationservices,
Youtube Revanced - Fine Location - should you use it. I don't know why it keeps on requesting this all the time. Put it on ignore or Deny to save battery (seems to be a bit badly programmed)
Multi Device Connectivity (don't know what this thing does, but it requests loads of data/wakeups and so on - maybe part of the spyware suite? For Sure remove it from Fine Location)
AiEnginge,Aiservices.
Controversial: Should you remove location access to Android System? I think it can save battery but not sure if some apps break some functionality?
com.vivo.devicereg (this one is quite active too - I'm not sure if we should put everything on ignore here too).
And yeah - I'm 99.99% positive the China Spyware is tracking your location 100% of the time. So it's not only some metadata, contacts, call data, messages, clipboard content and app filtering - but also your location. Now is this collected by Vivo for its own good, or for the Chinese government? I don't care I don't want either and I pretty much thing the way it works is several services gathering all that data - and most like vivo push notifications (haha fitting name) pushing this info to Chinese servers.
And yeah - seeing how many access rights are given to various system apps is not normal! I compared this to my Huawei P30 Pro and Galaxy S7 and both have much much less permissions given (a bit problematic as earlier Android versions aren't so detailled). Plus without app ops you don't even know about this! The stock permission management just hides all the system framework apps so you never know!

BTW - If you identify any app that requests a lot of stuff like location or contacts and you do not know why it should - try to debloat it because that's always the better solution. com.vivo.multinlp - Vivo Location Services can be debloated.
Same for Multi Device Connectivity: com.vivo.connbase
The rest of the apps above (except phone which breaks functionality if debloated) - cannot be debloated. So that's when you use App Ops instead. It's always safer using app ops vs fully uninstalling/disabling an app from a standpoint about breaking something. However for battery use most likely uninstalling via adb is the better solution. I decided to remove those two apps, but a more conservative approach is to simply remove their access to sensitive data.
Someone knows why google play services needs access to body sensors?
I'm attaching my current profile - not sure if you can import it without having the same debloat level as on my phone (which is pretty extensive - I have 77 apps uninstalled and 11 disabled. Yeah and most of that are services/system apps (very few a pre installed user apps).
Need to remove the txt ending on the backup to import.
Oh I think the reviews are right, the backup doesn't include settings for system apps. That a bummer. Kinda makes the backup/import function useless.
Now it clearly would make more sense if one could create a huge bash/batch file to do all of these app ops commands. I clearly don't know how to do that simply? Yeah finding out what changed is possible with dumpsys....

Battery life improved loads on first try, but then somehow I managed to destroy the Bluetooth connection by removing permissions somewhere too much. Also I had the phone in vibration mode overnight which kills all notifications and is like airplane mode light.
It's really horrible software design by vivo that vibration mode kills all notifications with screen off.
The only thing to achieve actual vibration mode is turning volume down to 0. I really cannot get who can program such a lousy thing.

I don't know why but location is constantly requested by something and I highly doubt it's actually android system!

Sadly Vivo system like MIUI seems to reset the restrictions all the time. So you need shizuku running all the time to restore the settings..
Especially com.vivo.abe restores it's permissions several times daily and as soon as that happens battery life goes **** again in idle and spyware starts working again...
It's super frustrating but essentially this phone had rubbish software that isn't fixable. It can be improved as many settings aren't reset but the spyware tries everything it can to restore itself overwriting system settings all the time.
Oh and push notifications also sends out data to fixed IP addresses in China that cannot be prevented.
Location is accessed like crazy by all the spyware.
Thats the main killer because it's permanently checking location if you don't disable location system wide.
At least down from 15.000 requests to 9000 thanks to app ops.

Hi @extremecarver, any updates on this? I appreciated what you have done so far to investigate this issue.
The problem I'm facing right now is, the idle drain is too much for me. With plane mode on during 6 hour night, it lost 3%. With normal 3g-4g signal (no data), it drains about 1% per hour, sometimes 2%. That means if I go to work and let my phone sit there for a whole day without touching anything, then it will lose 8%-16%. That's crazy numbers.
I also found that, googlemap (with gps+4g) can kill battery very quickly. Usually, I drive to work in 30 mins and it drops 6%, i.e, 1% per 5 mins. With the same use, the s22 ultra drops just under 3%.
And if I use the phone normally such as web browsing, facebook, instagram, tiktok, even taking photos then it drains very very normally as other phones do.
I have the s22 ultra and I can say that the battery on s22 ultra is much better than vivo. It's understandable because it has been optimized for a year now. With the s22 ultra and with the same using pattern, I can easily get 8 hours SoT, while the vivo can barely get it to 5-6 hours.
Pretty sad because this x90 pro+ camera is better than the s22 ultra in many aspects, easier to hold in hand (s22 ultra is too hard to reach the edge of the phone and too heavy) although I don't like both curve screens. I don't have many problems with the notifications because I mainly use messenger and gmail and that's all.
So hopefully, someone can find out the way to fix those excessive battery drain or Vivo can release some updates to solve this problem in the future.

Dear All,
i'm not sure if mine could be a good solution or not but i'm using nextdns service and it basically blocks all or almost all vivo and others brand spyware without installing any apps.
it's very quick and easy to activate, just enable dns privato in network settings and write your dns resolver url.
i hope it could be helpful.

lemonade747 said:
Hi @extremecarver, any updates on this? I appreciated what you have done so far to investigate this issue.
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Yes by removing virtually any rights on any app/service that I don't think needs it - I could solve the battery drain.
However now I cannot use the telephone to make calls (passive receving calls still works), and I seem not to be able to update to the new trial software because it isn't found.
Now the problem with App Ops is - I cannot quickly return all rights to update the software - as the backup/import function does not work with system apps.
This phone is just one thing, Crap, crap, crap, crap, crap. Not a single day I don't want to use a hammer and trash it. It's simpy virtually impossible to fix the crapware/spyware of this phone.
Svask89 said:
Dear All,
i'm not sure if mine could be a good solution or not but i'm using nextdns service and it basically blocks all or almost all vivo and others brand spyware without installing any apps.
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No it doesn't - it can only block apps, not even some system services - and only if they connect to a website, not if they connect to an IP address!
I have written about stopping spyware with DNS services already - this stops some sending of data - but doesn't help at all when it comes to battery drain. There will still be 20.000 events or so per day (which is a crazy amount) of the china spyware logging your location (and yeah mostly high accuracy, not low accuracy), trying to connect to chinese servers and other problems that you can only discover via Shizuku.
And NextDNS is not the right solution at all. I think even Adguard is a bit more efficient for this. The best one is Rething DNS+ - it's the only app that can block all system services (but then you cannot use another app for ad filtering like Adaware/Adguard).

This menu is not accessible via settings... But it exists
Needs to be accesses via activity launcher.
Actually private DNS exists too but is hidden by Vivo like so many other privacy related settings.. this OS is so rotten they try to hide everything that improves privacy...
Likely everything you write with Vivo secure keyboard has preferential upload to China servers
(This last one is sarcasm without proof, but don't believe anything this OS tells you about privacy because logs tell you it's lying)
Some more stuff of which a lot is hidden and not accessible
Go f**k standard vivo settings menu. The only problem is the real android settings menu is missing the search function. But it's feature complete (except the stuff Vivo really removed from Android which isn't too much.. mostly they just removed it from the settings menu)

This phone is a absolute garbage. Seems vivo blocks shizuku after some days of using it.
Found a Chinese tutorial on bilibili on what to do to solve it but that doesn't work anymore either.
Now vivo Push notifications spyware tries to send again notifications at a rate of 10-20 every second...
Basically the phone is a brick now, draining battery faster and faster with pushware and Abe having restored their permissions...
Also I cannot use ADB Appcontrol anymore - as it doesn't get permission (removing/restoring permission for ACBBridge didnt help).
I also activated Force Activity Resizeable in the developer options but that didn't change a thing... ( I think this only applies to apps that cannot get the pairing code via notifications and need the code entered in splitscreen - as if you switch screen the code is renewed)

'This phone is just one thing, Crap, crap, crap, crap, crap. Not a single day I don't want to use a hammer and trash it. It's simpy virtually impossible to fix the crapware/spyware of this phone.'
Patiently waiting

extremecarver said:
This phone is a absolute garbage. Seems vivo blocks shizuku after some days of using it.
Found a Chinese tutorial on bilibili on what to do to solve it but that doesn't work anymore either.
Now vivo Push notifications spyware tries to send again notifications at a rate of 10-20 every second...
Basically the phone is a brick now, draining battery faster and faster with pushware and Abe having restored their permissions...
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Also I cannot use ADB Appcontrol anymore - as it doesn't get permission (removing/restoring permission for ACBBridge didnt help).
I also activated Force Activity Resizeable in the developer options but that didn't change a thing... ( I think this only applies to apps that cannot get the pairing code via notifications and need the code entered in splitscreen - as if you switch screen the code is renewed)
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Thank you Vivo, keep doing it to his phone

Any updates on this @extremecarver?
I'm using this and what I see so far is the battery drain cut down to around 5% overnight (6 hours). With plane mode ON, it lost about 3% in 6 hours, not too bad for me. However, when put it there on my desk when I'm working (with 4g signal covered, no data), for 8 hours it sucked around 10%, and with wifi on that number is around 20%. My old Huawei Mate 20 and S22U can do even better than this (just around 5% without wifi, and 10-15% with wifi).
In addition, I also found that the battery drain when using GPS on this phone is too much for me. Just 1 hour and it sucked about 12% with 4G data ON.

Yes - in order to really cut the battery drain you need to remove much more permissions. The problem is that Vivo restores them - you could try to restrict that but modifying "modify restricted settings/ files" or something similar - but maybe that is how I locked myself out.
You can go into the "keep awake" and "run in background" and put ignore on everything you think that is not absolutely needed. Android 12 and above should not use this keep awake but Vivo apparently does.
Then you culd restrict body sensor data to more apps/services.
But yes as long as there is no way to really remove vivo.abe and vivo push notifications the battery drain is not fixable. Then of course the modem sucks - and uses way too much power. That one is either hardware rubbish or software mess up. I rather guess a rubbish modem.
The worst is battery drain while outdoors doing sports without being in airplane mode even if you disable any access to body sensors for all apps normally (use "device Info" app for this to actually get to all services, then app ops for removing even more.

extremecarver said:
Yes - in order to really cut the battery drain you need to remove much more permissions. The problem is that Vivo restores them - you could try to restrict that but modifying "modify restricted settings/ files" or something similar - but maybe that is how I locked myself out.
You can go into the wake something section and remove everything you think that is not needed. Android 12 and above should not use this - but Vivo apparently does.
Then you culd restrict body sensor data to more apps/services.
But yes as long as there is no way to really remove vivo.abe and vivo push notifications the battery drain is not fixable. Then of course the modem sucks - and uses way too much power. That one is either hardware rubbish or software mess up. I rather guess a rubbish modem.
The worst is battery drain while outdoors doing sports without being in airplane mode even if you disable any access to body sensors for all apps normally (use "device Info" app for this to actually get to all services, then app ops for removing even more.
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The phone is good overall, camera, design, performance, but the battery drain is destroying those good points. Not sure if vivo will fix this in the future or not, but my S22U did take more than 6 months to get some first stable updates, and it's super stable right now at 1 year.

Well I cannot call any phone good if it's basic functions like notifications and spyware are rubbish like hell - causing battery drain without end. And yeah - without root you can make it a bit better but cannot fix it. With root if would be quite doable (as long as Vivo doesn't introduce any killswitch like disabling stuff once vivo.abe or push notification service is uninstalled). Root for running adb commands would be enough. But vivo actively disabled this by making many apps removable only for user 1000.

ok so it seems no way to fix the rubbish battery life.
this thread convinced me to sell the phone for a s23 ultra, the battery life differences are huge given only the 300mah battery.
Very good phone ruined by battery life, I don't even care at this point about camera and other specs, I expected good battery life from a sd gen 2 with 4700 mah but i was clearly wrong.
My 1st and last vivo phone, too bad i'll lose tons of money now because is vivo is a no name here.

You lose tons of money everywhere as soon as you cannot return a Vivo phone anymore...
Btw, can someone show what permissions are on Android system by default?
I wonder if I'm missing some (screenshot from device info):
I never directly removed a permission from Android system, but I removed permissions from apps running as well on system.uid user, and sometimes they interact, sometimes they don't. Vivo really messed up the permissions because it's not possible to cleanly change permissions.
If you see the permissions given to push notifications it's anyhow clear than restricting any permissions to vivo apps to stop them to spy on you is like fighting windmills, because push notifications just about has any permission imaginable even after removing some with app ops. Here are the permissions left over from push notifications after removing any possible with app ops app.

Found the error why I couldn't access adb anymore. Shell system app somehow had all rights removed. Fixed it by exporting the apk and reinstalling it. Not locked out anymore and can use app ops again...
Strange thing though - on reboot shell went missing again. Not sure what the crap deletes shell on reboot. I'm pretty sure that's some kind of vivo killswitch if you remove rights via app ops commands from it's spyware.