Downgrade to CM7 or kick out Google? - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
my phone did not work that good with KitKat, so I downgraded to ICS (CM9 Mackay) but it did not work too long somehow...
The real killer are the Google Play services. It simply does not have enough memory and so important services are (temporarily) suspendend so messages arrive delayed etc. So now I have two ideas...
a) get down to CM7. Should be more lightweight, so maybe... better? Anyone has experiences?!
b) kick out Google. But... there are a lot of apps dependent on its services like GCM... and alternatives stores etc. like Amazon or whatever will need memory, too....
Best regards

I was and am still in the same boat as you. I love the looks of KitKat but once I've installed all my apps and Google Play Services kicks in the phone lags and bogs down. I changed to ICS to gain more speed which helped. But these days Google Play Services is pushing our phones to it's limits.
I use Greenify (Paid Version) freeze Google Play Services and cut it's Wake Up Paths to certain things. That way Google Play Services can still function when it's needed. I also use "Disable Services" to disable some components of Google Play Services. This way Google Play Services is usually never running in the background until it's called upon by an app that needs it. CM7 is very limited with compatibility with a lot of apps and Xposed Framework won't work either. Maybe it's worth a try. I personally never liked CM7.
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Cool, I'll try Greenify and see if it makes CM11 useable.
Otherwise, what are the steps to "upgrade" the Galaxy S I to CM7 from CM11?

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Some initial issues - play store not updating apps etc

What's with the mandatory 128MB update when you first boot the phone?
This thing runs HOT - 15 minutes and the back top of the phone is way warmer than my N4. Can't wait for devs to get kernel control apps going.......
GPS lock is FAAASSST. That was one of things I cared about. Much quicker than the N4.
LTE speed/signal seems low for where I am - map says I should be getting full connection (Denver area). But it works!
Volume is PITYFUL even at full! Hoping some FauxSound magic on this in the future.
Play Store Update Issues:
I have about 9 play store updates (Youtube, Google Earth, Twitter, TrustGo Antivirus) that all say 'update', but the store won't update them. It shows as downloading then nothing happens.
I'll call Google and ask about this, but clearly a bug!
I believe I've had that issue with apps not updating in the past...
I *think* I fixed it by deleting the Google Play data/cache.
Jorsher said:
I believe I've had that issue with apps not updating in the past...
I *think* I fixed it by deleting the Google Play data/cache.
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Thanks for the reply
UPDATE:
A quick power down and reboot, and apps are updating just fine.
Sorry for the false alarm on the play store stuff.
The thing I found annoying was that it was auto installing apps I had installed across both my n4 and n7. I do understand that it was just looking at my account and installing the aggregate of installed apps. When I tried to remove them it tried to auto install the apps I didn't want on my phone TWICE more. It was like whack-a-mole.
Finally seems to have conceded that I actually do know which Apps I want on my phone..
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How to get a lot of RAM in S5830i

Hello guys I am here today to give a possible aspect to get rid of laggyness caused by severe RAM usage by our "Left-Behind" phone S5830i.
First of all I'd like to mention the script by Hitesh2626...It helped me a lot to remove unwanted applications from my stock rom. But then after I saw I still was having lags though I had all small apps unlike Messenger and Whatsapp. And the reason was "Google Play Services" which took 39 mb of my RAM though all google services were unchecked by me.I know many people having the same problem.Then here's the solution:
Just go to play store and download "Disable Services" and give root rights
now open it and from the list select google play services
u'll see 99 services there -_-
just deselect the running ones(those will be in blue fonts) just like:gcmservices or nlplocationservice
Here you go...after deleselcting they'll become red and they'll never run anymore but still u'll be able to use other google play services without uninstalling it.
I am new to the xda so help me giving thanks ....IF MY HELP REALLY HELPED YOU
asishtheprince said:
Hello guys I am here today to give a possible aspect to get rid of laggyness caused by severe RAM usage by our "Left-Behind" phone S5830i.
First of all I'd like to mention the script by Hitesh2626...It helped me a lot to remove unwanted applications from my stock rom. But then after I saw I still was having lags though I had all small apps unlike Messenger and Whatsapp. And the reason was "Google Play Services" which took 39 mb of my RAM though all google services were unchecked by me.I know many people having the same problem.Then here's the solution:
Just go to play store and download "Disable Services" and give root rights
now open it and from the list select google play services
u'll see 99 services there -_-
just deselect the running ones(those will be in blue fonts) just like:gcmservices or nlplocationservice
Here you go...after deleselcting they'll become red and they'll never run anymore but still u'll be able to use other google play services without uninstalling it.
I am new to the xda so help me giving thanks ....IF MY HELP REALLY HELPED YOU
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bro i seriously dont think that stopping such background apps would do any good but rather they would restart and then cause lagg again instead if you want more ram install a cm7 based slim rom and have more ram...
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bro i seriously dont think that stopping such background apps would do any good but rather they would restart and then cause lagg again instead if you want more ram install a cm7 based slim rom and have more ram...
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Bro I'm not stopping them...I'm blocking them.They'll never run before I unblock them.It's been 8 days my phone is constantly running with Whatsapp,Facebook,Facebook messenger,go battery saver and hike...no lags at all bro....Stock Rom on Stock kernel....u shud try this to stop Google play services
Thank me plz
asishtheprince said:
Bro I'm not stopping them...I'm blocking them.They'll never run before I unblock them.It's been 8 days my phone is constantly running with Whatsapp,Facebook,Facebook messenger,go battery saver and hike...no lags at all bro....Stock Rom on Stock kernel....u shud try this to stop Google play services
Thank me plz
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U can freeze apps from link2sd and titanium backup also...
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asishtheprince said:
Hello guys I am here today to give a possible aspect to get rid of laggyness caused by severe RAM usage by our "Left-Behind" phone S5830i.
First of all I'd like to mention the script by Hitesh2626...It helped me a lot to remove unwanted applications from my stock rom. But then after I saw I still was having lags though I had all small apps unlike Messenger and Whatsapp. And the reason was "Google Play Services" which took 39 mb of my RAM though all google services were unchecked by me.I know many people having the same problem.Then here's the solution:
Just go to play store and download "Disable Services" and give root rights
now open it and from the list select google play services
u'll see 99 services there -_-
just deselect the running ones(those will be in blue fonts) just like:gcmservices or nlplocationservice
Here you go...after deleselcting they'll become red and they'll never run anymore but still u'll be able to use other google play services without uninstalling it.
I am new to the xda so help me giving thanks ....IF MY HELP REALLY HELPED YOU
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Here are some of my suggestion's
1) Remove all bloatware
2) Remove all ringtone's and whatever tone's ...leave only ringtone .
3) Delete all battery.qmg in media folder and also delete spamsung's bootanimation .
4) flash a custom kernel
5) flash Adrenaline engine and cosmic engine
Feel the smoothness ..and yeah .! question should be asked in Q&A not in general section.
I wouldn't recommend you stopping any of the GPlay Services. They are there for some reason. And the reason GPlay Services is using much RAM is that other apps use these services. So if you disable them some apps will not work as expected.
Then how cm 7 or other cm roms dosen't require G-apps install for their working???
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Android-fany said:
I wouldn't recommend you stopping any of the GPlay Services. They are there for some reason. And the reason GPlay Services is using much RAM is that other apps use these services. So if you disable them some apps will not work as expected.
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Though we need it but some people like me does not need the location service at all. Then why petting it eat my memory? That's why I'm suggesting to disable them. Nthng else.
asishtheprince said:
Hello guys I am here today to give a possible aspect to get rid of laggyness caused by severe RAM usage by our "Left-Behind" phone S5830i.
First of all I'd like to mention the script by Hitesh2626...It helped me a lot to remove unwanted applications from my stock rom. But then after I saw I still was having lags though I had all small apps unlike Messenger and Whatsapp. And the reason was "Google Play Services" which took 39 mb of my RAM though all google services were unchecked by me.I know many people having the same problem.Then here's the solution:
Just go to play store and download "Disable Services" and give root rights
now open it and from the list select google play services
u'll see 99 services there -_-
just deselect the running ones(those will be in blue fonts) just like:gcmservices or nlplocationservice
Here you go...after deleselcting they'll become red and they'll never run anymore but still u'll be able to use other google play services without uninstalling it.
I am new to the xda so help me giving thanks ....IF MY HELP REALLY HELPED YOU
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thank you.....i will try it
but i ask if you can upload "Disable Services" for me because i cannot access internet from my mobile
sega17 said:
Then how cm 7 or other cm roms dosen't require G-apps install for their working???
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Because you can still run apps without GApps? Android does still work without GApps.
asishtheprince said:
Though we need it but some people like me does not need the location service at all. Then why petting it eat my memory? That's why I'm suggesting to disable them. Nthng else.
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Bro, Google Play Services not only provides location services but also updates Google apps and apps from Google Play, provides core functionalities like authentication to your Google services, synchronised contacts and access to all the latest user privacy settings, speeds up offline searches, provides more immersive maps and improves gaming experiences.. So I completely agree with @Android-fany on the fact that disabling them can make certain Google apps crash or not work as expected. You might be able to save your battery life but at the cost of some core apps.
mahithm said:
Bro, Google Play Services not only provides location services but also updates Google apps and apps from Google Play, provides core functionalities like authentication to your Google services, synchronised contacts and access to all the latest user privacy settings, speeds up offline searches, provides more immersive maps and improves gaming experiences.. So I completely agree with @Android-fany on the fact that disabling them can make certain Google apps crash or not work as expected. You might be able to save your battery life but at the cost of some core apps.
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Bro I am not saying to disable the whole google play services. just some particular services among the 110 services google play provides.Now it is 389th hour my ace-i is going without a single lag with lots of ram eating apps.First of all try what I'm saying then post here...
mahithm said:
Bro, Google Play Services not only provides location services but also updates Google apps and apps from Google Play, provides core functionalities like authentication to your Google services, synchronised contacts and access to all the latest user privacy settings, speeds up offline searches, provides more immersive maps and improves gaming experiences.. So I completely agree with @Android-fany on the fact that disabling them can make certain Google apps crash or not work as expected. You might be able to save your battery life but at the cost of some core apps.
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Andvone more thing....everything is running like butter...no crashes...no fc on any app or game.Just have a try bro.Hit thanks
asishtheprince said:
Bro I am not saying to disable the whole google play services. just some particular services among the 110 services google play provides.Now it is 389th hour my ace-i is going without a single lag with lots of ram eating apps.First of all try what I'm saying then post here...
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Frankly, I have very low ram consumption on my Stock rom even with Google Play Services turned on. So I don't think there is any need for me to disable it considering how often I use these services. BTW this will surely affect those people who needs to use location services, Google play gaming platform, etc. But then again, you can always enable these services when you need them. I'm glad to hear everything works smooth. You know you learn something new everyday

[Q] Which system apps are safe to freeze?

Hey guys,
Is there any system apps or tasks that I can't ever freeze?
All google apps like Google Docs, Sheets, Play Movies, Play Games, Google+ etc. Then various Google keyboard inputs which you are not using like I am not using Google Korean so disabled it. HP Print service, Photos (I don't take online backup of photos so don't need it).
Avoid using Facebook app, instead use browser for FB and G+.
No need to disable Moto Service, afterall these features are what make it a MotoX and also turning any of those service doesn't make any big difference in battery life or performance.
Once you disable the above services/apps, nothing useless left.
Jack Sparrow xda said:
All google apps like Google Docs, Sheets, Play Movies, Play Games, Google+ etc. Then various Google keyboard inputs which you are not using like I am not using Google Korean so disabled it. HP Print service, Photos (I don't take online backup of photos so don't need it).
Avoid using Facebook app, instead use browser for FB and G+.
No need to disable Moto Service, afterall these features are what make it a MotoX and also turning any of those service doesn't make any big difference in battery life or performance.
Once you disable the above services/apps, nothing useless left.
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Thanks for the reply, man.
But I want to make a new question.
As we navigate on Rom Toolbox (for example), we see a lot of tasks there and somethings I neved heard of... I'd like to know which one of them I can freeze and which ones I can't ever because it would shut the system down.
Don't freeze anything unless you know what it is, and have a specific reason for freezing it.
A lot can actually be frozen depending on what 3rd party apps you use. I actually freeze/disable a ton of stuff on my phone!
If you use a 3rd party camera, you can uninstall the stock one.
Tags is another, i don't even have a clue what this is for but i've never had a drawback from disabling or uninstalling it.
Sound recorder.
I could go on and list a whole bunch, but i really don't know what you have installed for 3rd party.

Apps/bloatware removal, wich ones are safe to delete?

Hello!
I got my z3+ today and so far I'm really happy with it. I installed the GNL (Google Now Launcher) straight away because I just love it, used it on my old Xperia ZR. I want my phone to be as smooth, fast and clean as possible. I uninstalled all apps that could be uninstalled through the app-drawer, and now I'm wondering what apps I can inactivate from the settings->apps menu? Does anyone know what apps are safe to remove? I'm guessing I can inactivate the original mail app and SMS app as I'm using Gmail and Google Messenger instead of those.
Can I inactivate Albums app and use googles app for that aswell? When I did that on my ZR suddenly I couldnt show photos that I took through the camera app (you know the small thumbnail of the photo you just took in the lower right corner), I don't want that to happen again and I don't want any problems of that kind.
Thanks in advance and sorry for my grammar, English is not my main language.
you can disable, as i think rooting Z3+ is not yet available Follow apps:
Most Battery Drainers are Google extra stuff:
Google play games
Google new stand
Google music
Google Plus(+)
And other back ground which might not affect your daily usage.
Also i prefer using Browser for social networking sites instead of apps, because apps keep on searching updates from your friends and it causes your phone to be dead soon
After disabling google extra service my phone had a better life...
asking said:
you can disable, as i think rooting Z3+ is not yet available Follow apps:
Most Battery Drainers are Google extra stuff:
Google play games
Google new stand
Google music
Google Plus(+)
And other back ground which might not affect your daily usage.
Also i prefer using Browser for social networking sites instead of apps, because apps keep on searching updates from your friends and it causes your phone to be dead soon
After disabling google extra service my phone had a better life...
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That's a good idea! I disabled a bunch of apps now and I think I didn't mess anything up so far.
I really really want to disable the album app and use only Google Photos but I got the same issue as this guy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/help/changing-default-album-app-t2921987
I'm guessing there's no fix for that? And now I'm stuck with 2 album apps. Thanks Sony!

google apps without the whole google play services ?

Hi XDA,
Until last night, my phone was almost a brick ! It was impossible for me to use keyboard, start a game, watch a video, or even answer a call !!! What a pity ! :crying:
I looked into it to find the source of the problem.
I deleted some apps, made some space on internal memory (who knows ?), I converted some updated system apps, to put it back in system partition using Link2SD.
I did it with [email protected]#!$%G google play services and, I lost the app during the process (it happens sometimes, especially with google PS)
I restarted my phone and surprise The brick became a rocket :victory: my phone is no longer lagging as before !!! So, I tried to find why. It was google play services. It is no longer installed on the phone since Link2SD "lost" it. :laugh:
Now, I have another problem : I can no longer open google apps. I only use the store, youtube, maps, and the contact sync service. :good:
So, here is my question : Is it possible to get rid of google play services without getting rid of associated apps like youtube, or store (others are very easy to change)
xdadogs said:
Hi XDA,
Until last night, my phone was almost a brick ! It was impossible for me to use keyboard, start a game, watch a video, or even answer a call !!! What a pity ! :crying:
I looked into it to find the source of the problem.
I deleted some apps, made some space on internal memory (who knows ?), I converted some updated system apps, to put it back in system partition using Link2SD.
I did it with [email protected]#!$%G google play services and, I lost the app during the process (it happens sometimes, especially with google PS)
I restarted my phone and surprise The brick became a rocket :victory: my phone is no longer lagging as before !!! So, I tried to find why. It was google play services. It is no longer installed on the phone since Link2SD "lost" it. :laugh:
Now, I have another problem : I can no longer open google apps. I only use the store, youtube, maps, and the contact sync service. :good:
So, here is my question : Is it possible to get rid of google play services without getting rid of associated apps like youtube, or store (others are very easy to change)
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Google play services is a mandatory part of GApps, it's included in all variants of GApps.
You can use pico GApps if you want the basic stuffs. Or you can use the ROM without any GApps at all of you prefer.
And don't freeze or remove any apps if you don't know what it does.
OK.
I may put too much Smiley's in my first message...
I already know about gapps. My question is not about how much gapps I want on my phone, but how to still use it without gplay service.
This is the only apps that "need" another app to launch !! I don't need a Facebook play service to use Facebook or messenger apps ! Do you !?
So why gplay service is so important to launch apps !? It don't seems to be an all launcher.. It is not an account manager..
So waiting for a real answer, I started to look at aptoide to replace play store, because I know my question has poor chance to be answered.
I think I'm going to dive again in my YouTube & VLC RSS project to continue receiving updates from channels I follow without any YouTube app to run.
OK so if it actually works great on every others phones and I am the only one to have troubles with Google services feel free to tell me.
Don't worry about me freezing apps, I exactly know what I can freeze.
xdadogs said:
OK.
I may put too much Smiley's in my first message...
I already know about gapps. My question is not about how much gapps I want on my phone, but how to still use it without gplay service.
This is the only apps that "need" another app to launch !! I don't need a Facebook play service to use Facebook or messenger apps ! Do you !?
So why gplay service is so important to launch apps !? It don't seems to be an all launcher.. It is not an account manager..
So waiting for a real answer, I started to look at aptoide to replace play store, because I know my question has poor chance to be answered.
I think I'm going to dive again in my YouTube & VLC RSS project to continue receiving updates from channels I follow without any YouTube app to run.
OK so if it actually works great on every others phones and I am the only one to have troubles with Google services feel free to tell me.
Don't worry about me freezing apps, I exactly know what I can freeze.
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So freeze playsevices and see what work and what wont.
Verstuurd van mijn Xperia SP
xdadogs said:
OK.
I may put too much Smiley's in my first message...
I already know about gapps. My question is not about how much gapps I want on my phone, but how to still use it without gplay service.
This is the only apps that "need" another app to launch !! I don't need a Facebook play service to use Facebook or messenger apps ! Do you !?
So why gplay service is so important to launch apps !? It don't seems to be an all launcher.. It is not an account manager..
So waiting for a real answer, I started to look at aptoide to replace play store, because I know my question has poor chance to be answered.
I think I'm going to dive again in my YouTube & VLC RSS project to continue receiving updates from channels I follow without any YouTube app to run.
OK so if it actually works great on every others phones and I am the only one to have troubles with Google services feel free to tell me.
Don't worry about me freezing apps, I exactly know what I can freeze.
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There is an Xposed module but unfortunately I dont remember its name. It could allow you to use Google apps without google play services.
Phoenix854 said:
There is an Xposed module but unfortunately I dont remember its name. It could allow you to use Google apps without google play services.
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THERE IS!?
Phoenix854 said:
There is an Xposed module but unfortunately I dont remember its name. It could allow you to use Google apps without google play services.
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Hi !
Thanks for this useful answer. I was on the dev's thread yesterday. Unfortunately, it does not work with every apps. Still, its a useful module.
I'll put a link once I'm at home...
TechnoSparks said:
THERE IS!?
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YES !!
Take a look at here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/mod-app-run-google-play-services-1-0-t3054115
But it can't run every apps.
I'm surprised about this subject. I am not a developer, but if I were, I would try to create a tweak, an app, a module, I don't know something that could help people not to use Google play services app.

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